Venus in Scorpio revenge.....what am I expecting..

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I betrayed and hurt a Venus in Scorpio... It was his fault not being clear in our relationship but it was also my fault sleeping around while we were sleeping together.. Of coz not clear on his part..... I did a few more things n I think I honestly reached his breaking point.....even though 7 days ago he told me he loves me and now it's resentment... revenge and disgusted... I honestly don't know what to do.... I want him back even as friends coz he was like my best friend to me.... He said I have a heart as gold and God should bless me if he hasn't already.... n now this cold attitude. Completely completely cold. I feel worthless... He's doing everything in his power to hurt me.... Is this it?....... Do I ever have a chance...... I didn't cheat on him... He never wanted committed relationship from the beginning.... till now..... I was never his girlfriend.....please help.... what do I do.... I want us to remain friends if possible..... He's burning me down on purpose.... It's hurtful. His moon in Capricorn as well....
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As a Sun and Venus in Scorp I'd say to just leave him alone for now. The whole love turning into resentment thing is very probable and very hard for us to deal with inside. Sometimes time alone or without contact helps us heal and get our head together. Our heart will take a long time to heal. As to whether there's a chance later on nobody knows. If he's feeling this way then you hurt him pretty bad and/or he was very into you. We do take things seriously, too seriously sometimes, and we don't deal with broken hearts too well but we do heal with time.
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Posted by wagtail
He didn't want a committed relationship... Until you stepped out. in-ta-ra-desting.
Seems clear enough, it's possibly a control issue -on his part, but either way don't beat yourself up too much. Shit happens.
Scorps take this stuff pretty seriously, so do Caps, what are his other placements if I may ask?
Are you actually in love with this guy?

I'm trying hard not to but I did wrong and I deeply deeply apologied. . Every time we fight I have this bad habit of deleting him off Facebook... Or tell him I don't wanna c him again and then go back wanting to see him. He thinks I'm playing game. I love him more than anything in this world n he knows that... I honestly apologised for my mistakes .. in person I saw him out n he looked at me the same.. I did wrong. I slept with someone he knows too. Not friends friends but I did it back then because he told me he was in love with his ex still and that hurt me so much I flipped out and did shit I regret.... HOw ever I axxused him of sleeping around ( no communication, manipulation and always made sure he played games so I get suspicious n not trust him) it Is extremely unhealthy... I laid all his issues out and now everything is back on me. I am the one apologising for eveeything... I am in a lot of pain..... Is it the end.... Is this really it....
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Posted by AgentP911
As a Sun and Venus in Scorp I'd say to just leave him alone for now. The whole love turning into resentment thing is very probable and very hard for us to deal with inside. Sometimes time alone or without contact helps us heal and get our head together. Our heart will take a long time to heal. As to whether there's a chance later on nobody knows. If he's feeling this way then you hurt him pretty bad and/or he was very into you. We do take things seriously, too seriously sometimes, and we don't deal with broken hearts too well but we do heal with time.

My Aquarius moon nature n my Venus made everything worst. I tried detaching. I dismissed him three times and I broke my promise to him saying I will never delete him again..... I know I hurt him. I want him back I don't know how to have him back...... if ever..... Is there anything I can do for real.... Apart from leaving him alone for a while?..... Your help is much much much appreciated....
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Posted by Fox
You were sleeping around while you were with him and he only knows about it now?
Sounds safe. Good job bull ๐Ÿ˜Ž

I did not do anything wrong as we never discussed exclusivity at the time. He insisted that he doesn't want a committed relationship n now it's all my fault !! This is awful. On his birthday he was extremely depressed n felt like dying n I waa there for him. He knows I would do anything in this world for him!! He said despite everything he has love towards me as I show him love so he responds.... then two days later that weekend he went out without talking to me.. I flipped out n did the same shit saying we should go seperate ways..... I think that was it for him....
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Warm water. I was loyal to him without the title for 5 months in. I waited .. Sometime he wouldn't c me for 2 weeks.... 1 week 3 weeks... All those game bull crap..... One day he hurt me so much after we spent the most passionate day only to tell me he was in love with his ex and he was missing her a lot. I flipped out... I wa so Damn hurt...... I told him bout them and he accepted me bak with open arms.... Now he found out one of them is from the scene he knows..... All of these shit wouldn't happen if he didn't treat me like I was nothing to him... I needed love... I needed attention. He wasn't giving me anything. I love him from top to toe. He knows that...... Each time I delete him off all because he does play games and hurt my feelings on purpose...I always tried detaching to get over him. And now what it's all my fault. What a load of crap.
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Posted by Fox
Actually I change my mind -
I hope he finds someone who loves him and will treat him good. It's time for him to move on, but he might not realise it which is a shame.

Fox if only I can put in writing how much in the world I love this guy I would. He knows how deeply my feelings are. True I flipped out n slept with a few people BUT it was always done after his game is played. A test? Yes. I failed ? Yes... but God dsmn I truly have him my heart n soul n now he's shredding it down the drain coz I worked his game outโ€”?
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His words . ** I neve have feelings. I don't want a girlfriend. I don't want attachment * only to finally come clean and share with me he loves me back on his birthday when it was his lowest point in his life. I was there cring with him....... n now..... He flipped his worlds. There are no feelings n I need to stop contacting him..... what is this.... ๐Ÿ˜ข I'm in pain I'm angry and sad and confused all at once. 3 days ago I gave him his present..... He hugged me 6 times coz he really appreciated it.... The connection was deep..... We didn't do anything physical...... but now he doesn't want to give me sex anymore as he claims he wants to be alone n can't give me sex anymore.....
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Posted by Fox
You flipped and decided to sleep around? you have a bit of growing up to do before you end up in a serious relationship. Stick with what you want (which is obviously sleeping with other men). I honestly don't understand how you found it easy to do that and before you start trying to justify it again, don't. Again, I hope he finds someone he deserves. Someone who's going to love and stand by him and sort issues out together, rather than run off and fuck men.

you are right. I deserve every single pain I'm having because I caused it myself..... I am not proud of what I done..... I never been this kind of person.... he truly brought out the worst in me.... How can I ever prove to him anymore.... He never wanted a committed relationship with me.... And that hurts....how can he get angry at me over that... This is bs...!!!!
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I may have not been the best in terms of those stuff but he knows deep deep deep down he knows I am a great person whose heart is made of gold. He said this to me myself.... he even said he wants to give me a kid when I said I want to get gifted when I'm 35 n if I was still single. He said he will give me a kid..... we both have our issues.... I don't understand why it's all on me. I never cheated on him. We were never boyfriend and girlfriend!! He said this himself!!!
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Leaving him alone is doing something, not nothing. It's giving him time and space which he needs. The longer you are together or the more serious the hurt was means the more time he will need. Even if you weren't together long or the hurt wasn't that deep he will still need time.

The main way I deal with hurt is by cutting people off or reducing contact/ the category they're in.

For example, with some ex partners where I was not deeply into them or where we had grown apart etc it was easier to deal with parting ways and even remain friends. It can be easier when I'm the one making the decision to walk away. However, with some ex partners who I was more into, the only way to deal with it was by cutting them off completely.

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Posted by AgentP911
Leaving him alone is doing something, not nothing. It's giving him time and space which he needs. The longer you are together or the more serious the hurt was means the more time he will need. Even if you weren't together long or the hurt wasn't that deep he will still need time.

The main way I deal with hurt is by cutting people off or reducing contact/ the category they're in.

For example, with some ex partners where I was not deeply into them or where we had grown apart etc it was easier to deal with parting ways and even remain friends. It can be easier when I'm the one making the decision to walk away. However, with some ex partners who I was more into, the only way to deal with it was by cutting them off completely.

N that's more what he's doing now. Trying to cut off all contacts. U r right I will give him the time in this world.
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But the most problem with this story is sounding like communication problem and Cheeckybull feeling weaker than usual.. Especially that you have no idea what status are you guys.

Cheecky, is it alright that you put your own and his chart on here?

Our communication barrier is the massive problem. Me being all airy n him being all water n his moon in cap don't help..... I pointed out his non communicative approach.....
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you cheeky bull, you.
watch your back!

he probably won't do anything but sulk in his cum covered sheets to be honest.

he's being mean. Telling me to stop messaging him. I am in a lot of pain.!i honestly don't know how to have him back.....
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Leave the man alone. If you are truly a friend you would respect his wishes and not make this all about you. And they accuse Scorps in Venus of being obsessive....
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cheeckybull, from my Taurean perspective, there is no assuming with a Scorpio. Be that as it may, what I'm about to say will sound contradictory but that's the way of it. Not a whole lot of light-heartedness either when it comes to a question of loyalty. I'm sorry things turned so sour for you but all I can do is say that you have to try and access your intuitive knowledge with a Scorpio. For a Taurus that means learning to read his mind, something that doesn't come naturally to us. We're better at reading actions and body language, or noticing micro-movements in someone's face - basically we're really good at taking things at face value. Scorpio can hide their body language or feelings really well. It's all about understanding the inner workings, the deep seated feelings, their essence. They have their expectations of you and it's hard to always know what they entail. But the thing is, as you said yourself, you went against your own nature and were at a low point and he brought it out in you. Scorpio perceives your actions - your going against your nature - as dishonesty. He doesn't trust your character anymore or what he initially thought of you and that is where his hurt stems from. Hope this clears things up a bit. And hope it helps. Like the other people have mentioned though, now he needs time.
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Posted by cheeckybull
Maybe I have failed in his eyes but sooner or later he will realise only me in this world can die for him so he can sulk as much as he likes !! *** I'm angry !!! ** mind game. Manipulation. Control.... I had enough.... N he knows that I know how he plays so now what I am the wrong one here.... !! Begging for his forgiveness..... How Scorpio is this lol


Given he's a Sag, not very "Scorpio" at all.
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You flipped and decided to sleep around? you have a bit of growing up to do before you end up in a serious relationship. Stick with what you want (which is obviously sleeping with other men). I honestly don't understand how you found it easy to do that and before you start trying to justify it again, don't. Again, I hope he finds someone he deserves. Someone who's going to love and stand by him and sort issues out together, rather than run off and fuck men.



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Actually I change my mind -
I hope he finds someone who loves him and will treat him good. It's time for him to move on, but he might not realise it which is a shame.

Fox if only I can put in writing how much in the world I love this guy I would. He knows how deeply my feelings are. True I flipped out n slept with a few people BUT it was always done after his game is played. A test? Yes. I failed ? Yes... but God dsmn I truly have him my heart n soul n now he's shredding it down the drain coz I worked his game outโ€”?
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This part of the story hit me really bad.
Im a venus in scorpio and we do take things very seriously. Say he was testing you and playing his mind games, how can you go around sleep with "a few people" when as you say your heart and soul is with this guy. I would understand if u got tired of his little games but why oh why would you sleep around. How do u expect him to take you seriously then. How can he trust you that u wont do the same if he made you his girl. Trust is everything for us. he told u he had feelings for his ex i can imagine that may hurt ur feelings but he didnt say he was still sleeping with her. U picked the worst way of getting back at him. What did you gain from what you did in return? you see now u have to deal with all the messed up emotions and what ifs and thats just sad.
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I also want to add that if hes chart is water dominated he must be an emotional guy who knows exactly how to hide his feelings and be self protective before he could really trust you. You have been very dramatic with deleting him off facebook etc and with everything else you did he will be questioning how its ever going to work. I am sorry if this is hurtful to you, i see you do realise your mistakes but sadly u cant take them back. You guys had something there if not relationship. At that stage, if i was in your shoes rather than going to sleep with other men i would actually try my best to make him realise that i am the girl who wont ever do him wrong and that im real then if he still didnt want to commit i would say oh well and walk away with no guilt saying it is his loss.
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He didn't want a committed relationship...seems clear enough


I'm trying hard not to but I did wrong and I deeply deeply apologied. . Every time we fight I have this bad habit of deleting him off Facebook... Or tell him I don't wanna c him again and then go back wanting to see him. He thinks I'm playing game. I love him more than anything in this world n he knows that... I honestly apologised for my mistakes .. in person I saw him out n he looked at me the same.. I did wrong. I slept with someone he knows too. Not friends friends but I did it back then because he told me he was in love with his ex still and that hurt me so much I flipped out and did shit I regret.... HOw ever I axxused him of sleeping around ( no communication, manipulation and always made sure he played games so I get suspicious n not trust him) it Is extremely unhealthy... I laid all his issues out and now everything is back on me. I am the one apologising for eveeything... I am in a lot of pain..... Is it the end.... Is this really it....
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JC you're dramtic. The man didn't want to be serious and says he's inlove with his ex. Most people would simply keep it moving, yet you decided to play along and do all this dramtic crap because you can't regulate your emotions in an effective way. You've identified that it isn't healthy, yet here you are trying to figure how to get back into an unhealthy relationship. Sag Suns can deal with dramtic people better than Scorps can, so you have that in your corner.

PS stop acting beneath yourself by begging for this man's scraps.
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You flipped and decided to sleep around? you have a bit of growing up to do before you end up in a serious relationship. Stick with what you want (which is obviously sleeping with other men). I honestly don't understand how you found it easy to do that and before you start trying to justify it again, don't. Again, I hope he finds someone he deserves. Someone who's going to love and stand by him and sort issues out together, rather than run off and fuck men.



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Thanks all . Yeah i failed it's done and dusted . I couldn't control my own emotion . He truly did bring the worst out in me . I was always always a loyal Taurus . You guys r right he was not sleeping with anyone else but he made me question lots n lots of things . I will use this experience to move forward. All in all, later down the track I hope to have him back as a friend but until then I will keep it moving .... I did not mean to hurt him in any sny sny way. Not at all ... I honestly thought he couldn't care less until I really did it. Anyhow, ... He told me he loves me after I slept with a few people ., so I am honestly not sure where i am at at this stage. Sag sun can deal with dramatic people.. Yeah I am a hypocrite calling him dramatic n play games when it fact it may have been me all along.... I never intended to... His lack of expressing emotion which is what a Venus in Gemini n moon need was lacking big time.... I know he's hurt right now..... He never said he doesn't trust me anymore,... No matter what I do right or wrong I always tell him everything whether that's forgivable or not that's always my prize to pay....!maybe he has lost trust maybe he hasn't... But all I know is I think he is done..... With it all..... I will take rhe blame all on myself with this experience.... Thanks all for shredding some light....
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It may be words but I would do anything in this world for him. In time he will realise that. You are right. We both created the drama. We both created the mess... He started off with his trust issues n the all not ready ..... Telling me to go find and date other people..... That hurt a shit load...... We both need to grow up..... n having my fingers crossed that one day we can reunited in a more matured human being..... one day.....
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Posted by Hotbeefy
Better shredding some light is to focus on yourself.. ๐Ÿ˜

Yeah... I will.... I truly hope the time heal all wound... I need to work out why I behaved the way I did.... I always tried to do that.... Detaching from him.... He was bad for me... He was extremely addictive.... The whole power thing and the waiting game and many other things truly emotional drained me over the last 8 months.... I will cook for him and he would say he will let me know and never turn up...... On his birthday he said he felt like dying and that's when he told me he has love towards me dispite everything..( after finding out I was sleeping with a few ).... He knows deep deep down what we had was deep. He told me when we kiss I connect to his soul...... We don't have sex we make love..... yeah..... I hurt him...... I truly did..... He was truly unsecured n now I stuffed everything up....... I got to work on myself n keep it moving..... I truly hope he will forgive me one day.... I don't know how much hope I have...... in all honesty..... I don't know....
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Actually I change my mind -
I hope he finds someone who loves him and will treat him good. It's time for him to move on, but he might not realise it which is a shame.

Fox if only I can put in writing how much in the world I love this guy I would. He knows how deeply my feelings are. True I flipped out n slept with a few people BUT it was always done after his game is played. A test? Yes. I failed ? Yes... but God dsmn I truly have him my heart n soul n now he's shredding it down the drain coz I worked his game outโ€”?
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This part of the story hit me really bad.
Im a venus in scorpio and we do take things very seriously. Say he was testing you and playing his mind games, how can you go around sleep with "a few people" when as you say your heart and soul is with this guy. I would understand if u got tired of his little games but why oh why would you sleep around. How do u expect him to take you seriously then. How can he trust you that u wont do the same if he made you his girl. Trust is everything for us. he told u he had feelings for his ex i can imagine that may hurt ur feelings but he didnt say he was still sleeping with her. U picked the worst way of getting back at him. What did you gain from what you did in return? you see now u have to deal with all the messed up emotions and what ifs and thats just sad.
I walked out and burst in to tears as to why oh why did I do that........ He truly hurt me... That same day I told him everything and the next day we met and he understood why I did what I did..... He did accept me with an open arms and we made love like the best in this world...... I don't know how he managed that knowing I have been with a few people..... He knows half of the reasons were his fault too..... Otherwise he woildnt have seen me after that...... Yeah I got nothing in return but this emotional mess I am in now...... or was in.... It is for the best we parted..... We brought out the best and the worst from each other..... with lessons to learn and so much room to grow......
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I'm in your same situation, I'm dating a scorp man and we have no committed title. Although its not official we are still together and I respect that. I'm only with him and he's only with me, whether it means waiting weeks or days. Yes, he was testing you, he wants to know if you were worth jumping into a committed relationship with and you failed. He isn't going to waste serious time with someone who sleeps around on him whether official or not. All you had to do was enjoy life (not sexually) while he thinks. When he is in his own thoughts.. Be silent and supportive but you couldn't even do that. If my scorp man isnt sleeping with other women, its because he is being committed to me but without the title. He's action, not words.

Now he knows he can't trust you, so I suggest take this time to work on yourself and mature more.



I don't believe anyone should have to wait around hoping for the guy to one day change their mind and see them as worthy of commitment. If you tell someone that you're not interested in a real, committed relationship*, then how do you expect someone to behave like they are? It's not fair to the other person. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

There's no problem with her sleeping with other guys. The problem was that it seems like she did it for the sake of anger and retaliation against him, because he indeed didn't behave like he was monogamous.

They are both cake eaters lol.

*This is distinct from someone saying that they want to date someone for a little bit before they go official. But even then, it's not considered wrong in some circles to date multiple people until a mutual commitment is made.
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This is what I am talking about. Not only did he tell me he doesn't want an offical relationship and a girlfriend..... He sometimes tell me he doesn't care if I date other guys. He told me there are no feelings as his heart was dead and died a long time ago.... He said he still loved his ex and all that.... So that's when I started to date people and that's when the drama began stronger..... He said " now all of the sudden we e sleeping with other people " I was confused as hell..... !!!! When I was overseas after that I proved him right and I didn't sleep with anyone at all and he k
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you're so focused on his scorpio venus so much!!

gosh!!

what about his capricorn moon?? that is another STRONG indication.

http://astrophilosophy.tumblr.com/post/51131683451/moon-in-capricorn<BR>
Men with this placement often harbor a pessimistic and defeated feeling. They don't always handle this placement as well as women do. They cover their deep pain with endless ambitious endeavors. No accomplishment is ever the end. They want to be at the top of the tallest mountain.
People with this placement are usually very no nonsense. Punctual, well dressed, and ready to work. They often have a very dark sense of humor. They are known for their wit.


They are highly creative.
They may tend to ignore their instincts. They may be control freaks trying to plan and calculate when they should just let go and listen to what is happening around them. They may often do the opposite of what should be done in a serious or crisis situation. They are very hard on themselves when they make these types of mistakes. They want very much to be perfect and to be strong and to do everything right. They sometimes totally fall apart in a crisis. They hate crying but they feel so much they can't help it. They hate not having control. They usually need a lot of nurturing and care when something stressful happens, and they are not the types you want to go to for emotional support. They will need more emotional support than anyone.

They are sometimes annoyed with more emotionally expressive people. But they also envy their freedom. Moon in Capricorn would love to feel comfortable enough to honestly express their emotions. But they are very afraid of being exposed as weak or incompetent.
They may be cold and serious when people are relaxing and having a good time around them. It may be difficult for others to get really comfortable around them. They may seem so frosty and uptight.
Emotional life is usually a very difficult for these people. They often turn to substances to numb the pain. Capricorn by nature can be very indulgent. With the moon in Capricorn their indulgences can be caused by a shift in their mood or a specific emotional trigger.
They sometimes develop substance problems when they are very young in an effort to get over whatever trauma they have experienced. People with Moon in Capricorn often experience some sort of trauma before they become adults. As they grow older, it may become more and more difficu
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@ Lisa.... I have figured out his moon... I know how his moon work.... His placements are as bad as mine.... He feels deep emotion and did wherever it takes to show other wise... He's always depressed, insecured.... All about money and work for this man.... He never feels like he's good enough.... I may have been a drama queen when we don't see each other but each and every single time we spend time together... I never caused or shown drama, tears or any trouble... Hence my actions r also conflicted..... He loved spending time with me... I hope that was enough for him to keep my as a friend later down the track. He made me chose between friends and nothing at all... I chose nothing at all at this stage..... It is better that way....
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Posted by DMV
Uh No. Tell saggi boy to calm the fuck down. You can sleep with whomever you want to especially if there is no commitment on either end.

If he was huffin and puffin about you spreading your legs, you need to tell him to man up and demand you as his lady.

Thank you thank you! He knows he has no right in this earth to ever get mad at me about it... I wouldn't ever get mad at him about it if he did... He's out every single single weekend!!!! How can I know he's not sleeping around himself considering he's the one drinking n being on drugs..... Hence where the trust n the drama come in..... If only we rewind everything bak 8 months ago and he claimed me properly and make it publicly known... We wouldn't be in this situation ... and I bet he knows that.... 100 % it is partly his fault.... so now.... when I was committed only to him when he didn't want a commitment for 5 months.... I felt dumb and stupid... Why was I waiting around for a man who didn't c me as girldriend... We r talking about him seeing me once every two weeks or some bs like that.... So I started to head out n explore the world.... Then that's when he flipped out.... even though he himself told me I had every right to date n for me to go find someone who's ready...... now what it's all on me..... Seriously...
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Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Damnata
You're suntaurusvenusgemini...right?

That chick who makes endless posts about venus in scorpio on a sag man.

Another username..same shit.

I really hope you find a way to deal with your obsession for this placement.



lol everyone just ignores what you have to say, Damnie.

but spot on.
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The thing that is scary to me..the ramblings. It's like there is no thought there..nothing. And someone who doesn't think is someone dangerous to me. I mean this is all cool cuz she wraps that placement in a blanket of delusion and romance..but what if she gets pissed? Then what..she'll start killing Scorpio Venuses?

If anyone read John Fowles - The Collector ..she is seriously coming across as the guy in that book.