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Posted by DrinkWater

Posted by Boots1313

"The girls in the office". As opposed to the "women"

Is the term "girls" belittling...you don't hear mean, referred to as boys.

Sound off.

You do actually refer to men being referred to as boys all the time, particularly by older women.

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I agree. This is a debate im having with my co worker. Shes offended by it. I said ...i hear "boys" all the time.

She argues not from a boss...the boss (male) would never say "the boys"

Shes annoying

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Basically she basically told me my point is invalid, I mean not being offended by it just shows my youth. I mean not accepting the fact that I'm an older woman. I'm only 30, she's 50.

Then she goes on to tell me that she's just never been one to follow social norms. And she's never been a follower or sheep. And she questions everything.

She's always made her own course through life and has fought for everything that she is

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Offended, no. Not for the first time.

After I tell said person I am not a 'girl' and don't appreciate being called such. You can use my name or title, k thanks.

If they still insist on using that term, then I will be offended.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Offended, no. Not for the first time.

After I tell said person I am not a 'girl' and don't appreciate being called such. You can use my name or title, k thanks.

If they still insist on using that term, then I will be offended.

The topic came up as such.

Boss is on the phone "ok great. When you come in the girls in the office can help you"

Co worker: girls?...do you ever refee to the men in the field as the "boys"?

*My boss dumbfounded*

"What would you perfer?"

Coworker: "idk, its belittling to say girls. Women, gals, ladies..."

Me: *rolling my eyes*...idc what you call me.

We settled on the "Designers"...

Which i guess it appropriate.

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Posted by DrinkWater

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Basically she basically told me my point is invalid, I mean not being offended by it just shows my youth. I mean not accepting the fact that I'm an older woman. I'm only 30, she's 50.

Then she goes on to tell me that she's just never been one to follow social norms. And she's never been a follower or sheep. And she questions everything.

She's always made her own course through life and has fought for everything that she is

So she's insulting you by insinuating that you are a " Girl" and she is a "Woman". Meanwhile trying to make Men look bad for calling younger women girls.

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Exactally.

Shes always obnoxious.

I've worked with her 3 years...this is an everday sort of debate.

Its just her and I in the office...

Send help.

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Posted by DrinkWater

Posted by Boots1313

Posted by DrinkWater

Posted by Boots1313

Basically she basically told me my point is invalid, I mean not being offended by it just shows my youth. I mean not accepting the fact that I'm an older woman. I'm only 30, she's 50.

Then she goes on to tell me that she's just never been one to follow social norms. And she's never been a follower or sheep. And she questions everything.

She's always made her own course through life and has fought for everything that she is

So she's insulting you by insinuating that you are a " Girl" and she is a "Woman". Meanwhile trying to make Men look bad for calling younger women girls.

Exactally.

Shes always obnoxious.

I've worked with her 3 years...this is an everday sort of debate.

Its just her and I in the office...

Send help.

Get a job in construction with the boys.

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😂😂😂

I'd perfer it. They don't get offended by every little thing

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Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Offended, no. Not for the first time.

After I tell said person I am not a 'girl' and don't appreciate being called such. You can use my name or title, k thanks.

If they still insist on using that term, then I will be offended.

The topic came up as such.

Boss is on the phone "ok great. When you come in the girls in the office can help you"

Co worker: girls?...do you ever refee to the men in the field as the "boys"?

*My boss dumbfounded*

"What would you perfer?"

Coworker: "idk, its belittling to say girls. Women, gals, ladies..."

Me: *rolling my eyes*...idc what you call me.

We settled on the "Designers"...

Which i guess it appropriate.

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Its kinda patronizing to refer to people who are adults as adolescents in a business setting.

When its happened to me (along with hun, sweetie, etc) it was fairly obvious the person was doing it to diminish my value.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Offended, no. Not for the first time.

After I tell said person I am not a 'girl' and don't appreciate being called such. You can use my name or title, k thanks.

If they still insist on using that term, then I will be offended.

The topic came up as such.

Boss is on the phone "ok great. When you come in the girls in the office can help you"

Co worker: girls?...do you ever refee to the men in the field as the "boys"?

*My boss dumbfounded*

"What would you perfer?"

Coworker: "idk, its belittling to say girls. Women, gals, ladies..."

Me: *rolling my eyes*...idc what you call me.

We settled on the "Designers"...

Which i guess it appropriate.

Its kinda patronizing to refer to people who are adults as adolescents in a business setting.

When its happened to me (along with hun, sweetie, etc) it was fairly obvious the person was doing it to diminish my value.

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I definitely think intent has a lot to do with it. If you're using it in a belittling way, then yes I'm offended. But my boss was just being colloquial and didn't really mean anything by it.

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Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Offended, no. Not for the first time.

After I tell said person I am not a 'girl' and don't appreciate being called such. You can use my name or title, k thanks.

If they still insist on using that term, then I will be offended.

The topic came up as such.

Boss is on the phone "ok great. When you come in the girls in the office can help you"

Co worker: girls?...do you ever refee to the men in the field as the "boys"?

*My boss dumbfounded*

"What would you perfer?"

Coworker: "idk, its belittling to say girls. Women, gals, ladies..."

Me: *rolling my eyes*...idc what you call me.

We settled on the "Designers"...

Which i guess it appropriate.

Its kinda patronizing to refer to people who are adults as adolescents in a business setting.

When its happened to me (along with hun, sweetie, etc) it was fairly obvious the person was doing it to diminish my value.

I definitely think intent has a lot to do with it. If you're using it in a belittling way, then yes I'm offended. But my boss was just being colloquial and didn't really mean anything by it.

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Yeah context and intent is everything.

Still telling a client/vender that the 'girls' in the office will take care of it doesn't sound as impressive as saying the 'designers' will handle it.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Offended, no. Not for the first time.

After I tell said person I am not a 'girl' and don't appreciate being called such. You can use my name or title, k thanks.

If they still insist on using that term, then I will be offended.

The topic came up as such.

Boss is on the phone "ok great. When you come in the girls in the office can help you"

Co worker: girls?...do you ever refee to the men in the field as the "boys"?

*My boss dumbfounded*

"What would you perfer?"

Coworker: "idk, its belittling to say girls. Women, gals, ladies..."

Me: *rolling my eyes*...idc what you call me.

We settled on the "Designers"...

Which i guess it appropriate.

Its kinda patronizing to refer to people who are adults as adolescents in a business setting.

When its happened to me (along with hun, sweetie, etc) it was fairly obvious the person was doing it to diminish my value.

I definitely think intent has a lot to do with it. If you're using it in a belittling way, then yes I'm offended. But my boss was just being colloquial and didn't really mean anything by it.

Yeah context and intent is everything.

Still telling a client/vender that the 'girls' in the office will take care of it doesn't sound as impressive as saying the 'designers' will handle it.

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We're a super small company. We are all local. The boss whent to high school with my other co worker. Its just her and I in the office.

Very mom and pop.

Its just kindnof thr way we are as a company.

Super casual.

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Posted by _Dazed

Posted by LadyNeptune

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Posted by LadyNeptune

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Yes. Everything offends me.

we know

That ego of yours still hurt

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From your tantrum last night?

Nope, you'll have to cry harder.

Still wondering why rabits 'kill yoself' screenshot didn't make the front page. I feel so special to be singled out.

Still wondering why screen shots of me threatening you haven't made the front page.

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I'm not the one having a hissy fit, am I.

News flash, not everyone gaf about what dxp internet strangers think of them. Keep trashing me. Its funny to watch.

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Posted by Boots1313

"The girls in the office". As opposed to the "women"

Is the term "girls" belittling...you don't hear mean, referred to as boys.

Sound off.

Yes.

I've watched too much "MadMen."

But, I knew history of women in the workplace already. I purposely watched "MadMen" for the illustration. I was sooo angry.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by _Dazed

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by _Dazed

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by _Dazed

Yes. Everything offends me.

we know

That ego of yours still hurt

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From your tantrum last night?

Nope, you'll have to cry harder.

Still wondering why rabits 'kill yoself' screenshot didn't make the front page. I feel so special to be singled out.

Still wondering why screen shots of me threatening you haven't made the front page.

I'm not the one having a hissy fit, am I.

News flash, not everyone gaf about what dxp internet strangers think of them. Keep trashing me. Its funny to watch.

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e.g. There were no threats.

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I am not offended by being called a "girl" 99 out of 100 times. The only time I get offended by it, is if a male uses it in a context of trying to undermine me, based off my gender.

This applies to the word "chick", "darling", etc... as well.

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Posted by elllle

Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Offended, no. Not for the first time.

After I tell said person I am not a 'girl' and don't appreciate being called such. You can use my name or title, k thanks.

If they still insist on using that term, then I will be offended.

The topic came up as such.

Boss is on the phone "ok great. When you come in the girls in the office can help you"

Co worker: girls?...do you ever refee to the men in the field as the "boys"?

*My boss dumbfounded*

"What would you perfer?"

Coworker: "idk, its belittling to say girls. Women, gals, ladies..."

Me: *rolling my eyes*...idc what you call me.

We settled on the "Designers"...

Which i guess it appropriate.

Its kinda patronizing to refer to people who are adults as adolescents in a business setting.

When its happened to me (along with hun, sweetie, etc) it was fairly obvious the person was doing it to diminish my value.

I definitely think intent has a lot to do with it. If you're using it in a belittling way, then yes I'm offended. But my boss was just being colloquial and didn't really mean anything by it.

Yeah context and intent is everything.

Still telling a client/vender that the 'girls' in the office will take care of it doesn't sound as impressive as saying the 'designers' will handle it.

We're a super small company. We are all local. The boss whent to high school with my other co worker. Its just her and I in the office.

Very mom and pop.

Its just kindnof thr way we are as a company.

Super casual.

Let's pretend the women in the office were men.

Think how this sounds...."The boys in the office will take care of it."

Would anyone even say that?

That's the issue. Nobody would demean the value of men in a business setting because nobody has ever been conditioned to.

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The "guys".

Idk I've called the guys the "boys" before, thye dont get offended.

I think men just dont get offended the way women do.

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Posted by nikkistar

I am not offended by being called a "girl" 99 out of 100 times. The only time I get offended by it, is if a male uses it in a context of trying to undermine me, based off my gender.

This applies to the word "chick", "darling", etc... as well.

I agree, if someone calls me sweetie, or honey, or darling... In a very condescending way . Then yes thats offensive. But I don't find offense in my boss saying the girls in the office. Sometimes it's a mouthful to say the designers, or our names

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Posted by Boots1313

Posted by nikkistar

I am not offended by being called a "girl" 99 out of 100 times. The only time I get offended by it, is if a male uses it in a context of trying to undermine me, based off my gender.

This applies to the word "chick", "darling", etc... as well.

I agree, if someone calls me sweetie, or honey, or darling... In a very condescending way . Then yes thats offensive. But I don't find offense in my boss saying the girls in the office. Sometimes it's a mouthful to say the designers, or our names

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He can say "the women."

He is the boss. To whom much is given, much is expected.

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Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by Boots1313

Posted by LadyNeptune

Offended, no. Not for the first time.

After I tell said person I am not a 'girl' and don't appreciate being called such. You can use my name or title, k thanks.

If they still insist on using that term, then I will be offended.

The topic came up as such.

Boss is on the phone "ok great. When you come in the girls in the office can help you"

Co worker: girls?...do you ever refee to the men in the field as the "boys"?

*My boss dumbfounded*

"What would you perfer?"

Coworker: "idk, its belittling to say girls. Women, gals, ladies..."

Me: *rolling my eyes*...idc what you call me.

We settled on the "Designers"...

Which i guess it appropriate.

Its kinda patronizing to refer to people who are adults as adolescents in a business setting.

When its happened to me (along with hun, sweetie, etc) it was fairly obvious the person was doing it to diminish my value.

I definitely think intent has a lot to do with it. If you're using it in a belittling way, then yes I'm offended. But my boss was just being colloquial and didn't really mean anything by it.

Yeah context and intent is everything.

Still telling a client/vender that the 'girls' in the office will take care of it doesn't sound as impressive as saying the 'designers' will handle it.

We're a super small company. We are all local. The boss whent to high school with my other co worker. Its just her and I in the office.

Very mom and pop.

Its just kindnof thr way we are as a company.

Super casual.

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Hmmm well its different based on the vibe in the office. We do a lot of shit talking here.

But in front of clients we try to build each other up. Helps add value to the service we are providing.

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Posted by Black-Mamba

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i use girl alot like GIRRRRRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Ita okay female to female.

When it comes from a "man" that seems to be the issue

true, i dont like when guys say "hey girl"

that's the wackest thing

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This guy at my second job does this cause he can't pronounce my name lol I've started saying "Hey Boy" as soon as he comes to ask me something and says that. He just frowns and now barley asks me stuff. I don't get what the issue is though

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Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by Boots1313

Posted by nikkistar

I am not offended by being called a "girl" 99 out of 100 times. The only time I get offended by it, is if a male uses it in a context of trying to undermine me, based off my gender.

This applies to the word "chick", "darling", etc... as well.

I agree, if someone calls me sweetie, or honey, or darling... In a very condescending way . Then yes thats offensive. But I don't find offense in my boss saying the girls in the office. Sometimes it's a mouthful to say the designers, or our names

He can say "the women."

He is the boss. To whom much is given, much is expected.

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The women 👎

In 30...yes im a woman but im not like a "WOman"...

Plus woman = wo-man.

Its all patriarchal, and I'm offended by that

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It's all within context.

The boss can not call me girl. It's says alot about my value, performance appraisal, pay or bonus distribution...

...as a black female who worked in an environment that other blacks called "the plantation..."

It's a hard pass.

I am very protective of myself.

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If people (men and women alike) could be instantly bitch-slapped for being "offended" by verbal cues, then there would be a lot less "offended" pussies and a lot more realistic people.

I am talking a nice, smooth, and swift bitch-slap right to the face to ANYONE who gets "offended" by the words of another.

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Posted by Arielle83

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If people (men and women alike) could be instantly bitch-slapped for being "offended" by verbal cues, then there would be a lot less "offended" pussies and a lot more realistic people.

I am talking a nice, smooth, and swift bitch-slap right to the face to ANYONE who gets "offended" by the words of another.

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Okay, doll face.

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IDGAF what you idiots think.

A lot more slaps in this world would result in a lot less whining and bitching about everything.

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Posted by LittleStar

I always refer to myself as a girl.

But when a contractor calls me “good girl” I flip tables.

It’s all about tone.

This I agree with.

See, when one says, "good girl," it's almost like they are talking to you like you are a dog.

I can see why a bitch-slap becomes necessary for the person who talks to someone like they are a dog.

However, if a dude says, "Good morning, girls, how are you?"

I don't see the need for any slapping here, especially since he was greeting the women.

But yes, bitch-slapping is in order for people who talk to others like they are dogs or some other kind of animal.

If some bitch said to me, "Hey boy...." Yes, a slap would be in order for her.

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Posted by Neshama

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Posted by Arielle83

Posted by Effortless

If people (men and women alike) could be instantly bitch-slapped for being "offended" by verbal cues, then there would be a lot less "offended" pussies and a lot more realistic people.

I am talking a nice, smooth, and swift bitch-slap right to the face to ANYONE who gets "offended" by the words of another.

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Okay, doll face.

ok momo

Yep, be who you really are.

ok helen

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So passive aggressive...

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