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Posted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by Astrobyn
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Having children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
Here we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thoughtclick to expand
I said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.
But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by Astrobyn
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me.
You've blatantly contradicted yourself, as you're the one who made this all about which gender has it the worst. LMAO!!!!
*smh*click to expand
No, I did not contradict myself. It's your opinion that doesn't matter to me.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by Astrobyn
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Having children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
Here we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
I said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.
But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.click to expand
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. - that's what you wrote.
Actually I misread a bit with the "guaranteed way to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck." I think I'm still confused on where you stand. You don't intend on making anyone feel bad about their choices or anything. You do think that personally it is murder tho. I'm still a bit confused. So do you think that you should have the OPTION of abortion or not?
Posted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by Astrobyn
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Having children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
Here we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
I said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.
But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. - that's what you wrote.click to expand
Yes, I don't understand where the miscommunication about that.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by Astrobyn
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Having children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
Here we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
I said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.
But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. - that's what you wrote.
Yes, I don't understand where the miscommunication about that.click to expand
see other post, i'm curious as to your overall position on it? should women be allowed? there's a difference between feelings for your own actions and what others should be allowed to do
OP--this had nothing to do with his astrological sign...that mufugga just weird lol. Be glad you dodged a bullet and carry on with life.
You dodged a bullet. I'm sorry that happened to you cause that's fucking traumatic to be left somewhere like that.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHere we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHaving children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
click to expand
I said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.
But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.click to expand
Itās very harsh to call any woman a murderer who chooses to have a termination ~ we donāt know what the circumstances are. I fortunately didnāt have to go through that but know women who did. I also know of women who were raped, even by family members.
Iād find it cruel and judgemental to call them murderers.
Posted by Solo
Why do people think men going dutch on a FIRST DATE WHEN YOU TWO DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER is something that's like "disrespectful?" It's not indicative of anything really about how someone is gonna treat you. Expecting to be treated as a girlfriend or something right off the bat is just fucking wild.
The most sensible post on the thread ImO.
A man paying on a date not paying in no way indicates he will treat you in a relationship or what kind of guy he is. It, however, does reveal how entitled and outdated a womanās views are in view of the modern world where women work and choose not to be like the forerunners. Not paying for a woman who is not neither your exclusive gf or wife is neither Dutch nor does it make someone a lousy candidate.
Dating at the beginning without any exclusivity is mutually beneficial, so why should the male borne the cost of it?
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHere we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHaving children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
click to expand
I said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.
But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Itās very harsh to call any woman a murderer who chooses to have a termination ~ we donāt know what the circumstances are. I fortunately didnāt have to go through that but know women who did. I also know of women who were raped, even by family members.
Iād find it cruel and judgemental to call them murderers.click to expand
I never called anyone a murderer. I equate it to murder, because killing a fetus is the same to me as killing a person, and we typically call that murder.
We have normalized abortions in western culture and told everyone its ok and a fundamental right for women. And if women don't have access to this then we can never be equal to men, and yeah that's true because our entire culture and way of life was created by men for men (for the most part).
If you really look at 90% of the reasons most women make this choice, its because they aren't able to afford to support a child within the system of capitalism.
I understand there is a problem, but I would opt to kill the system before we kill the fetus. Also I am not a Christina or Christian Nationalist.
How did this post Segway into abortion?
No it would be like eating a fertilized egg from a chicken. Most people find that unpalatable.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloI said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.Posted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHere we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHaving children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
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But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Itās very harsh to call any woman a murderer who chooses to have a termination ~ we donāt know what the circumstances are. I fortunately didnāt have to go through that but know women who did. I also know of women who were raped, even by family members.
Iād find it cruel and judgemental to call them murderers.
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I never called anyone a murderer. I equate it to murder, because killing a fetus is the same to me as killing a person, and we typically call that murder.
We have normalized abortions in western culture and told everyone its ok and a fundamental right for women. And if women don't have access to this then we can never be equal to men, and yeah that's true because our entire culture and way of life was created by men for men (for the most part).
If you really look at 90% of the reasons most women make this choice, its because they aren't able to afford to support a child within the system of capitalism.
I understand there is a problem, but I would opt to kill the system before we kill the fetus. Also I am not a Christina or Christian Nationalist.
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If you equate it to murder then the person having an abortion is a murderer, thatās how it came across to me.
There are young girls being raped and for them the only option is to have an abortion. I donāt think itās fair to say theyāve āmurderedā
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Just to clarify he isnāt living with his baby mama. He told me the reason why he stayed with her in the past is because he didnāt have anywhere else to go.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt on being late but thatās gone now. If a guy makes me wait now the date will be cancelled.
Lesson learned not to go on a date without my physical card.
Hotel/Motel are places to go...
WAIT! WHY OP was trying to Zelle money to HIM instead of PAYING for the drinks with HER CARD?
Zelle doesn't transfer money on weekends. I tried once to send it to my child, and she got it on Wednesday.
During the week - yes! Immediately. Weekends - pay Saturday - get Wednesday. Pay Sunday - get Thursday.
BUT she could pay tab with credit card!
Also, OP, WHO and HOW paid the tab after all?
Zelle doesn't transfer money on weekends. I tried once to send it to my child, and she got it on Wednesday.
During the week - yes! Immediately. Weekends - pay Saturday - get Wednesday. Pay Sunday - get Thursday.
BUT she could pay tab with credit card!
Also, OP, WHO and HOW paid the tab after all?
āand I didnāt even have my debit card on meā
Posted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHere we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHaving children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
I said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.
But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. - that's what you wrote.
Yes, I don't understand where the miscommunication about that.
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see other post, i'm curious as to your overall position on it? should women be allowed? there's a difference between feelings for your own actions and what others should be allowed to do
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I believe our culture has normalized abortion, its a "medical procedure" and we value medical procedures āscience".
So a lot of people have accepted the idea that a fetus is not a person. I think that is bullshit and there is nothing scientific about it. These are concepts that we aren't even close to figuring out.
Even if you think about this in terms of physics theories, if time is not linear and is only our perception of change. I tend to believe in something like eternalism, where everything already exist. So to me, if that fetus is present, then it is already a person who has is and was living a full life, and there are many different outcomes of could happen to that life, or maybe all those outcomes are all happening.
Our human brains have very limited capacity to fathom what is actually happening with life and the universe.
When it comes to me feeling like I need to interfere with someone else experience or the choices they make, I find that concept a little more complicated to explain. The simple answer is no its not my place, but I will also tell you its not my place to interfere every murder of a fully grown person. If you ask me if I think we should live in a society where we legalize medically unjustified abortions, Iād say no.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHere we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHaving children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
I said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.
But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. - that's what you wrote.
Yes, I don't understand where the miscommunication about that.
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see other post, i'm curious as to your overall position on it? should women be allowed? there's a difference between feelings for your own actions and what others should be allowed to do
I believe our culture has normalized abortion, its a "medical procedure" and we value medical procedures āscience".
So a lot of people have accepted the idea that a fetus is not a person. I think that is bullshit and there is nothing scientific about it. These are concepts that we aren't even close to figuring out.
Even if you think about this in terms of physics theories, if time is not linear and is only our perception of change. I tend to believe in something like eternalism, where everything already exist. So to me, if that fetus is present, then it is already a person who has is and was living a full life, and there are many different outcomes of could happen to that life, or maybe all those outcomes are all happening.
Our human brains have very limited capacity to fathom what is actually happening with life and the universe.
When it comes to me feeling like I need to interfere with someone else experience or the choices they make, I find that concept a little more complicated to explain. The simple answer is no its not my place, but I will also tell you its not my place to interfere every murder of a fully grown person. If you ask me if I think we should live in a society where we legalize medically unjustified abortions, Iād say no.click to expand
Personally think going to think about it alongside eternalism is going way overboard for real decisions that need to be made.
BTW I agree with you that it'd be nice to fix the underlying problems with not being able to support a family. I also would personally like other forms of contraception so I could still go to splash city and not have to worry about the potential of a child.
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloI said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.Posted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHere we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHaving children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
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But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Itās very harsh to call any woman a murderer who chooses to have a termination ~ we donāt know what the circumstances are. I fortunately didnāt have to go through that but know women who did. I also know of women who were raped, even by family members.
Iād find it cruel and judgemental to call them murderers.
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I never called anyone a murderer. I equate it to murder, because killing a fetus is the same to me as killing a person, and we typically call that murder.
We have normalized abortions in western culture and told everyone its ok and a fundamental right for women. And if women don't have access to this then we can never be equal to men, and yeah that's true because our entire culture and way of life was created by men for men (for the most part).
If you really look at 90% of the reasons most women make this choice, its because they aren't able to afford to support a child within the system of capitalism.
I understand there is a problem, but I would opt to kill the system before we kill the fetus. Also I am not a Christina or Christian Nationalist.
If you equate it to murder then the person having an abortion is a murderer, thatās how it came across to me.
There are young girls being raped and for them the only option is to have an abortion. I donāt think itās fair to say theyāve āmurderedāclick to expand
If they made the choice to end a life, then they should be honest with themselves about that. That's not the only option though.
I agree that something terrible and hard happened to that person. But I'm not the type to pretend something isn't want it is to make someone feel better.
The lack of honestly as we go through our experiences, is such a hindrances to our journey as we grow and evolve.
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How did this post Segway into abortion?
I was curious about robyns opinion since iirc she posted about things like wage difference between men and women and i thought it was a bit out of line from what I'm used to with her so I asked for her to expound
Posted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloPosted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHere we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHaving children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
I said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.
But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. - that's what you wrote.
Yes, I don't understand where the miscommunication about that.
click to expand
see other post, i'm curious as to your overall position on it? should women be allowed? there's a difference between feelings for your own actions and what others should be allowed to do
I believe our culture has normalized abortion, its a "medical procedure" and we value medical procedures āscience".
So a lot of people have accepted the idea that a fetus is not a person. I think that is bullshit and there is nothing scientific about it. These are concepts that we aren't even close to figuring out.
Even if you think about this in terms of physics theories, if time is not linear and is only our perception of change. I tend to believe in something like eternalism, where everything already exist. So to me, if that fetus is present, then it is already a person who has is and was living a full life, and there are many different outcomes of could happen to that life, or maybe all those outcomes are all happening.
Our human brains have very limited capacity to fathom what is actually happening with life and the universe.
When it comes to me feeling like I need to interfere with someone else experience or the choices they make, I find that concept a little more complicated to explain. The simple answer is no its not my place, but I will also tell you its not my place to interfere every murder of a fully grown person. If you ask me if I think we should live in a society where we legalize medically unjustified abortions, Iād say no.
Personally think going to think about it alongside eternalism is going way overboard for real decisions that need to be made.
BTW I agree with you that it'd be nice to fix the underlying problems with not being able to support a family. I also would personally like other forms of contraception so I could still go to splash city and not have to worry about the potential of a child.click to expand
Well, You've ever really had to consider the responsibility of this decision personally.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloI said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.Posted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHere we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHaving children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
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But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Itās very harsh to call any woman a murderer who chooses to have a termination ~ we donāt know what the circumstances are. I fortunately didnāt have to go through that but know women who did. I also know of women who were raped, even by family members.
Iād find it cruel and judgemental to call them murderers.
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I never called anyone a murderer. I equate it to murder, because killing a fetus is the same to me as killing a person, and we typically call that murder.
We have normalized abortions in western culture and told everyone its ok and a fundamental right for women. And if women don't have access to this then we can never be equal to men, and yeah that's true because our entire culture and way of life was created by men for men (for the most part).
If you really look at 90% of the reasons most women make this choice, its because they aren't able to afford to support a child within the system of capitalism.
I understand there is a problem, but I would opt to kill the system before we kill the fetus. Also I am not a Christina or Christian Nationalist.
If you equate it to murder then the person having an abortion is a murderer, thatās how it came across to me.
There are young girls being raped and for them the only option is to have an abortion. I donāt think itās fair to say theyāve āmurderedā
If they made the choice to end a life, then they should be honest with themselves about that. That's not the only option though.
I agree that something terrible and hard happened to that person. But I'm not the type to pretend something isn't want it is to make someone feel better.
The lack of honestly as we go through our experiences, is such a hindrances to our journey as we grow and evolve.click to expand
Iām aspiring to have acceptance and not judge
not always easy but the intention is there.
I knew a girl who gave birth at 13, the birth experience was extremely difficult her being a child herself and then the baby was taken away from her.
Posted by AstrobynWell, You've ever really had to consider the responsibility of this decision personally.
Nope, and never will. Thanks for sharing and explaining your opinion to meclick to expand
lullll fucked that quote up
Ok probably very unpopular opinion hereā¦.but I partly agree with Robyn. Only difference is I do identify as a Christian and do not believe in pro choice. Now I donāt consider women who choose abortion as murderers. I feel they had to do what was best for them. As a Christian, it is not our job to judge others. We donāt have to agree with their decision, but I will not judge them for it. I just could never have an abortion myselfā¦.no matter how bad the situation was. There are always other options. I believe the only one who should be taking lives is God. I will not play God.
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloI said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.Posted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHere we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHaving children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
click to expand
But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Itās very harsh to call any woman a murderer who chooses to have a termination ~ we donāt know what the circumstances are. I fortunately didnāt have to go through that but know women who did. I also know of women who were raped, even by family members.
Iād find it cruel and judgemental to call them murderers.
click to expand
I never called anyone a murderer. I equate it to murder, because killing a fetus is the same to me as killing a person, and we typically call that murder.
We have normalized abortions in western culture and told everyone its ok and a fundamental right for women. And if women don't have access to this then we can never be equal to men, and yeah that's true because our entire culture and way of life was created by men for men (for the most part).
If you really look at 90% of the reasons most women make this choice, its because they aren't able to afford to support a child within the system of capitalism.
I understand there is a problem, but I would opt to kill the system before we kill the fetus. Also I am not a Christina or Christian Nationalist.
If you equate it to murder then the person having an abortion is a murderer, thatās how it came across to me.
There are young girls being raped and for them the only option is to have an abortion. I donāt think itās fair to say theyāve āmurderedā
If they made the choice to end a life, then they should be honest with themselves about that. That's not the only option though.
I agree that something terrible and hard happened to that person. But I'm not the type to pretend something isn't want it is to make someone feel better.
The lack of honestly as we go through our experiences, is such a hindrances to our journey as we grow and evolve.
Iām aspiring to have acceptance and not judge
not always easy but the intention is there.
I knew a girl who gave birth at 13, the birth experience was extremely difficult her being a child herself and then the baby was taken away from her.click to expand
I'm sure its just my Virgo Rising that comes of judgey, my gemini moon is completely detached and objective af.
Posted by xyzabc
Ok probably very unpopular opinion hereā¦.but I partly agree with Robyn. Only difference is I do identify as a Christian and do not believe in pro choice. Now I donāt consider women who choose abortion as murderers. I feel they had to do what was best for them. As a Christian, it is not our job to judge others. We donāt have to agree with their decision, but I will not judge them for it. I just could never have an abortion myselfā¦.no matter how bad the situation was. There are always other options. I believe the only one who should be taking lives is God. I will not play God.
I donāt think I could go through it either but of the two women I know that did, one was an alcoholic and the other very immature. I sense they both did the right thing. Iāve witnessed horrendous things happening to babies and children who were born to women who couldnāt look after them. My own father who was the son of an abusive mother told me once he wished heād been aborted. Despite he went onto marry our Mum and have my sister and I, he still remained in a state of mental torture. Up until his dying day he said heād never forgive her. All through his life heād bouts of depression and suicidal thoughts.
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by xyzabc
Ok probably very unpopular opinion hereā¦.but I partly agree with Robyn. Only difference is I do identify as a Christian and do not believe in pro choice. Now I donāt consider women who choose abortion as murderers. I feel they had to do what was best for them. As a Christian, it is not our job to judge others. We donāt have to agree with their decision, but I will not judge them for it. I just could never have an abortion myselfā¦.no matter how bad the situation was. There are always other options. I believe the only one who should be taking lives is God. I will not play God.
I donāt think I could go through it either but of the two women I know that did, one was an alcoholic and the other very immature. I sense they both did the right thing. Iāve witnessed horrendous things happening to babies and children who were born to women who couldnāt look after them. My own father who was the son of an abusive mother told me once he wished heād been aborted. Despite he went onto marry our Mum and have my sister and I, he still remained in a state of mental torture. Up until his dying day he said heād never forgive her. All through his life heād bouts of depression and suicidal thoughts.click to expand
That is so sad about your father. š
Posted by poppyflowerPosted by Rimzy
How did this post Segway into abortion?
Robyn's post about women taking on more risks if got pregnant...click to expand
and the men didn't understand that the only guaranteed way to not take on the risk of getting pregnant was not sleep with them.
They did not like that, but they also don't want to pay for the first 3 dates, so that was rude.
Posted by MyStarsShine
āand I didnāt even have my debit card on meā
But apparently, tab got paid somehow and a friend called her an Uber...again...I don't know much about the card in the phone BUT I am pretty sure you HAVE a card in your phone TO be able to PAY with it EVEN if Zelle isn't sending money immediately to the recipient and IF she tries to send it more than once - he will end up with all the money she tried to send on mid-week!
Posted by AstrobynPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by AstrobynPosted by SoloI said the only guarantee way to not get pregnant. I don't encourage anyone to do shit. People murder other people all day every day, I don't involve myself in other people decisions unless it's personal to me.Posted by AstrobynPosted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHere we go, when all else fails, bring out the DV and rape card...Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by AstrobynHaving children is a CHOICE. You are not obliged to procreate. If you wish to believe that, in life, you can have it all, more the fool you.
Its great that we move into a world were men and women have more equal opportunity. But it aināt fucking equal and women take on more risk in relationships. We take on more financial risk if we get pregnant, more risk to our safety and wellbeing.
Setting that aside, men take far more risks than women because, when pursing potential partners (which most women are reluctant to do), men are venturing into the unknown ā jumping through hoops and proving themselves to women, who they barely know, and have no idea if they are even truly compatible with. But, of course, you conveniently overlook such a significant point.
In most dating scenarios, the two individuals are practically strangers to each other. Itās only when BOTH parties have sufficiently proven themselves to each other that part of your argument has some validity.
Sorry I'm not pro choice, so the guaranteed way to to not CHOOSE to have children is to not fuck. women take on far more risk with not only their body but their safety you can look of domestic violence and murder statistics on your own time.
Oh gosh darn its so hard to be a man, to prove yourself to a woman that you wont try to Rape her or Sexually assault pr harass her, or kidnap or murder her. When 81% of women reported experiencing this in their lifetime.
tell me how hard it is to be a man.
*yawns*
If you think that negates the risks that men have to endure in the dating world, that only highlights your gender bias and tunnel vision.
Btw, various statistic's show that a significant proportion of DV cases were initiated by women. If you don't believe me, do the research yourself.
How hard it is to be a man... Maybe you should ask many of the trans men who either detransitioned or committed suicide afterwards. They obviously discovered that male privilege is completely a myth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183781/Trans-man-weeps-explaining-easier-make-friends-women.html
I donāt really even believe in transgenderism the way its sold to us. I believe that our gender is determined by how our hormones create our biology, and that there is a spectrum of masculine or feminine that comes natural to us. But most of the way we identify gender in our society is constructed, so IMO transitioning yourself from one gender to the other is just performative to conform to societies ideas of what it wants gender to be.
My biology has a gender, that the hormones in my body have made and continue to make that determination. But this is just the meat suit that my soul has been put into. And my soul has no gender. So I think if you feel like your Trans and want to go through the trouble of changing your biology, youāre really worried about the wrong shit.
@Solo You also convince me that a soul isnāt put into an embryo before its 3 months old. You donāt know that, and Iām not going to kill a 3 month old baby the same as Iām not going to kill a 3 month old fetus. There is no difference to me.
We can disagree all day long on which gender has the harder experiences, honestly it doesnāt matter to me. Iām clear on who I am and how I want to live my life. If that is having standards on how I want to be treated or someone to interact with me, its my choice what that is and who meets that criteria.
With regards to choice of abortion or not - so you think that the only way to avoid maternity is for them to abstinent? I'm just confused from what I remember about you. You would encourage a woman to have less choice should something happen? It seemed like you were for.. not that kinda thought
click to expand
But if you ask my opinion, I think it abortion is murder. You probably haven't heard me say that much, because abortion is super common, I'm sure many women here have made that choice, and it's not my intention to try and make anyone feel bad or argue with them about the personal choices they made.
I don't know why you would assume what my opinion was on something I rarely talk about, unless you are stereo typing me into a particular group of people. But no matter what group you'd try to put me in, I'm sure I would have fundamental disagreements with them all.
Our culture tries to categories everyone to put us in these artifical tribes. Each tribe will providethe education and justification for what ever belief they want you to own. Which is by design to pit us against one another, and find scapegoats in the other to lay blame.
Itās very harsh to call any woman a murderer who chooses to have a termination ~ we donāt know what the circumstances are. I fortunately didnāt have to go through that but know women who did. I also know of women who were raped, even by family members.
Iād find it cruel and judgemental to call them murderers.
click to expand
I never called anyone a murderer. I equate it to murder, because killing a fetus is the same to me as killing a person, and we typically call that murder.
We have normalized abortions in western culture and told everyone its ok and a fundamental right for women. And if women don't have access to this then we can never be equal to men, and yeah that's true because our entire culture and way of life was created by men for men (for the most part).
If you really look at 90% of the reasons most women make this choice, its because they aren't able to afford to support a child within the system of capitalism.
I understand there is a problem, but I would opt to kill the system before we kill the fetus. Also I am not a Christina or Christian Nationalist.
If you equate it to murder then the person having an abortion is a murderer, thatās how it came across to me.
There are young girls being raped and for them the only option is to have an abortion. I donāt think itās fair to say theyāve āmurderedā
If they made the choice to end a life, then they should be honest with themselves about that. That's not the only option though.
I agree that something terrible and hard happened to that person. But I'm not the type to pretend something isn't want it is to make someone feel better.
The lack of honestly as we go through our experiences, is such a hindrances to our journey as we grow and evolve.
Iām aspiring to have acceptance and not judge
not always easy but the intention is there.
I knew a girl who gave birth at 13, the birth experience was extremely difficult her being a child herself and then the baby was taken away from her.
I'm sure its just my Virgo Rising that comes of judgey, my gemini moon is completely detached and objective af.click to expand
Oh Virgo rising š
Two mercurial placements
Posted by xyzabcPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by xyzabc
Ok probably very unpopular opinion hereā¦.but I partly agree with Robyn. Only difference is I do identify as a Christian and do not believe in pro choice. Now I donāt consider women who choose abortion as murderers. I feel they had to do what was best for them. As a Christian, it is not our job to judge others. We donāt have to agree with their decision, but I will not judge them for it. I just could never have an abortion myselfā¦.no matter how bad the situation was. There are always other options. I believe the only one who should be taking lives is God. I will not play God.
I donāt think I could go through it either but of the two women I know that did, one was an alcoholic and the other very immature. I sense they both did the right thing. Iāve witnessed horrendous things happening to babies and children who were born to women who couldnāt look after them. My own father who was the son of an abusive mother told me once he wished heād been aborted. Despite he went onto marry our Mum and have my sister and I, he still remained in a state of mental torture. Up until his dying day he said heād never forgive her. All through his life heād bouts of depression and suicidal thoughts.
That is so sad about your father. šclick to expand
Tragic š
She didnāt deserve to have him but she did and then went on to destroy him
Posted by SoloPosted by Rimzy
How did this post Segway into abortion?
I was curious about robyns opinion since iirc she posted about things like wage difference between men and women and i thought it was a bit out of line from what I'm used to with her so I asked for her to expoundclick to expand
Oh I see!
Abortion is part of society, with or without public funding and has been seen the onset of society.
Roman women had access to abortions and documented their experiences and practices. Native Americans also had specific rights to abortion as well and used herbal remedies to remove pregnancies based on numerous factors - often the choice of the woman.
Humans havenāt just NOW used abortion to prevent having children, it just became more centralized in a hospital setting due to unclean practice from abortions being carried illegally and caused substantial risk to women.
Removing abortion rights doesnāt remove the need, it removes the safe access to abortions and increases illegal avenues. Humans are never going to stop fucking, and for whatever reason a woman needs an abortion remains a NON point for me, and I donāt care to argue whatās valid or invalid based on ethics. A womanās reasoning are her own and Iād never dictate whatās right or wrong for anyone.
What I do know isā¦we will always use abortion to terminate pregnancies and we have since ancient times and will continue to do so until men have their balls snipped and get them reconnected with a licensing program wherein they have to show they can legally and financially provide for their sperm š and that will never happen because our society puts no emphasis on men being sexually responsible for their actions and the onus of pregnancy often rely heavily on women to protect themselves from pregnancy by men who can reproduce endlessly while a woman is capped at one child per year.
So whoās really the problem here š
Posted by RimzyPosted by SoloPosted by Rimzy
How did this post Segway into abortion?
I was curious about robyns opinion since iirc she posted about things like wage difference between men and women and i thought it was a bit out of line from what I'm used to with her so I asked for her to expound
click to expand
Oh I see!
Abortion is part of society, with or without public funding and has been seen the onset of society.
Roman women had access to abortions and documented their experiences and practices. Native Americans also had specific rights to abortion as well and used herbal remedies to remove pregnancies based on numerous factors - often the choice of the woman.
Humans havenāt just NOW used abortion to prevent having children, it just became more centralized in a hospital setting due to unclean practice from abortions being carried illegally and caused substantial risk to women.
Removing abortion rights doesnāt remove the need, it removes the safe access to abortions and increases illegal avenues. Humans are never going to stop fucking, and for whatever reason a woman needs an abortion remains a NON point for me, and I donāt care to argue whatās valid or invalid based on ethics. A womanās reasoning are her own and Iād never dictate whatās right or wrong for anyone.
What I do know isā¦we will always use abortion to terminate pregnancies and we have since ancient times and will continue to do so until men have their balls snipped and get them reconnected with a licensing program wherein they have to show they can legally and financially provide for their sperm š and that will never happen because our society puts no emphasis on men being sexually responsible for their actions and the onus of pregnancy often rely heavily on women to protect themselves from pregnancy by men who can reproduce endlessly while a woman is capped at one child per year.
So whoās really the problem here š
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Posted by RimzyPosted by SoloPosted by Rimzy
How did this post Segway into abortion?
I was curious about robyns opinion since iirc she posted about things like wage difference between men and women and i thought it was a bit out of line from what I'm used to with her so I asked for her to expound
Oh I see!
Abortion is part of society, with or without public funding and has been seen the onset of society.
Roman women had access to abortions and documented their experiences and practices. Native Americans also had specific rights to abortion as well and used herbal remedies to remove pregnancies based on numerous factors - often the choice of the woman.
Humans havenāt just NOW used abortion to prevent having children, it just became more centralized in a hospital setting due to unclean practice from abortions being carried illegally and caused substantial risk to women.
Removing abortion rights doesnāt remove the need, it removes the safe access to abortions and increases illegal avenues. Humans are never going to stop fucking, and for whatever reason a woman needs an abortion remains a NON point for me, and I donāt care to argue whatās valid or invalid based on ethics. A womanās reasoning are her own and Iād never dictate whatās right or wrong for anyone.
What I do know isā¦we will always use abortion to terminate pregnancies and we have since ancient times and will continue to do so until men have their balls snipped and get them reconnected with a licensing program wherein they have to show they can legally and financially provide for their sperm š and that will never happen because our society puts no emphasis on men being sexually responsible for their actions and the onus of pregnancy often rely heavily on women to protect themselves from pregnancy by men who can reproduce endlessly while a woman is capped at one child per year.
So whoās really the problem here š
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I'm with you. I think about it. I'd like other forms for us as well. I wouldn't mind taking a pill if I could. Don't take away waterworld for me tho
It's amazing, this thread went from either agreeing or disagreeing with the story laid out by the OP to: fuck you, I've got mine mentally.
Wouldn't be a dxp thread if we didn't have that shit going on at least once a week. š
Wouldn't be a dxp thread if we didn't have that shit going on at least once a week. š
Posted by SoloPosted by RimzyPosted by SoloPosted by Rimzy
How did this post Segway into abortion?
I was curious about robyns opinion since iirc she posted about things like wage difference between men and women and i thought it was a bit out of line from what I'm used to with her so I asked for her to expound
Oh I see!
Abortion is part of society, with or without public funding and has been seen the onset of society.
Roman women had access to abortions and documented their experiences and practices. Native Americans also had specific rights to abortion as well and used herbal remedies to remove pregnancies based on numerous factors - often the choice of the woman.
Humans havenāt just NOW used abortion to prevent having children, it just became more centralized in a hospital setting due to unclean practice from abortions being carried illegally and caused substantial risk to women.
Removing abortion rights doesnāt remove the need, it removes the safe access to abortions and increases illegal avenues. Humans are never going to stop fucking, and for whatever reason a woman needs an abortion remains a NON point for me, and I donāt care to argue whatās valid or invalid based on ethics. A womanās reasoning are her own and Iād never dictate whatās right or wrong for anyone.
What I do know isā¦we will always use abortion to terminate pregnancies and we have since ancient times and will continue to do so until men have their balls snipped and get them reconnected with a licensing program wherein they have to show they can legally and financially provide for their sperm š and that will never happen because our society puts no emphasis on men being sexually responsible for their actions and the onus of pregnancy often rely heavily on women to protect themselves from pregnancy by men who can reproduce endlessly while a woman is capped at one child per year.
So whoās really the problem here š
I'm with you. I think about it. I'd like other forms for us as well. I wouldn't mind taking a pill if I could. Don't take away waterworld for me thoclick to expand
You can still dump a load, youāre just carrying no bullets š
Majority of a manās load comes from a mucus gland that lives deep near your anus, and thatās the majority of the liquid that spunks out. So your mucus gland will still throw out some sauce, just no spice
š
Posted by RimzyPosted by SoloPosted by RimzyPosted by SoloPosted by Rimzy
How did this post Segway into abortion?
I was curious about robyns opinion since iirc she posted about things like wage difference between men and women and i thought it was a bit out of line from what I'm used to with her so I asked for her to expound
Oh I see!
Abortion is part of society, with or without public funding and has been seen the onset of society.
Roman women had access to abortions and documented their experiences and practices. Native Americans also had specific rights to abortion as well and used herbal remedies to remove pregnancies based on numerous factors - often the choice of the woman.
Humans havenāt just NOW used abortion to prevent having children, it just became more centralized in a hospital setting due to unclean practice from abortions being carried illegally and caused substantial risk to women.
Removing abortion rights doesnāt remove the need, it removes the safe access to abortions and increases illegal avenues. Humans are never going to stop fucking, and for whatever reason a woman needs an abortion remains a NON point for me, and I donāt care to argue whatās valid or invalid based on ethics. A womanās reasoning are her own and Iād never dictate whatās right or wrong for anyone.
What I do know isā¦we will always use abortion to terminate pregnancies and we have since ancient times and will continue to do so until men have their balls snipped and get them reconnected with a licensing program wherein they have to show they can legally and financially provide for their sperm š and that will never happen because our society puts no emphasis on men being sexually responsible for their actions and the onus of pregnancy often rely heavily on women to protect themselves from pregnancy by men who can reproduce endlessly while a woman is capped at one child per year.
So whoās really the problem here š
I'm with you. I think about it. I'd like other forms for us as well. I wouldn't mind taking a pill if I could. Don't take away waterworld for me tho
You can still dump a load, youāre just carrying no bullets š
Majority of a manās load comes from a mucus gland that lives deep near your anus, and thatās the majority of the liquid that spunks out. So your mucus gland will still throw out some sauce, just no spice
šclick to expand
I'm just saying don't take creampies away from me on the whole. I'm fine with it not producing a goblin
Posted by SoloPosted by RimzyPosted by SoloPosted by RimzyPosted by SoloPosted by Rimzy
How did this post Segway into abortion?
I was curious about robyns opinion since iirc she posted about things like wage difference between men and women and i thought it was a bit out of line from what I'm used to with her so I asked for her to expound
Oh I see!
Abortion is part of society, with or without public funding and has been seen the onset of society.
Roman women had access to abortions and documented their experiences and practices. Native Americans also had specific rights to abortion as well and used herbal remedies to remove pregnancies based on numerous factors - often the choice of the woman.
Humans havenāt just NOW used abortion to prevent having children, it just became more centralized in a hospital setting due to unclean practice from abortions being carried illegally and caused substantial risk to women.
Removing abortion rights doesnāt remove the need, it removes the safe access to abortions and increases illegal avenues. Humans are never going to stop fucking, and for whatever reason a woman needs an abortion remains a NON point for me, and I donāt care to argue whatās valid or invalid based on ethics. A womanās reasoning are her own and Iād never dictate whatās right or wrong for anyone.
What I do know isā¦we will always use abortion to terminate pregnancies and we have since ancient times and will continue to do so until men have their balls snipped and get them reconnected with a licensing program wherein they have to show they can legally and financially provide for their sperm š and that will never happen because our society puts no emphasis on men being sexually responsible for their actions and the onus of pregnancy often rely heavily on women to protect themselves from pregnancy by men who can reproduce endlessly while a woman is capped at one child per year.
So whoās really the problem here š
I'm with you. I think about it. I'd like other forms for us as well. I wouldn't mind taking a pill if I could. Don't take away waterworld for me tho
You can still dump a load, youāre just carrying no bullets š
Majority of a manās load comes from a mucus gland that lives deep near your anus, and thatās the majority of the liquid that spunks out. So your mucus gland will still throw out some sauce, just no spice
š
I'm just saying don't take creampies away from me on the whole. I'm fine with it not producing a goblinclick to expand
Agreed! More cream pies, less goblins š¹
Posted by RimzyPosted by SoloPosted by RimzyPosted by SoloPosted by RimzyPosted by SoloPosted by Rimzy
How did this post Segway into abortion?
I was curious about robyns opinion since iirc she posted about things like wage difference between men and women and i thought it was a bit out of line from what I'm used to with her so I asked for her to expound
Oh I see!
Abortion is part of society, with or without public funding and has been seen the onset of society.
Roman women had access to abortions and documented their experiences and practices. Native Americans also had specific rights to abortion as well and used herbal remedies to remove pregnancies based on numerous factors - often the choice of the woman.
Humans havenāt just NOW used abortion to prevent having children, it just became more centralized in a hospital setting due to unclean practice from abortions being carried illegally and caused substantial risk to women.
Removing abortion rights doesnāt remove the need, it removes the safe access to abortions and increases illegal avenues. Humans are never going to stop fucking, and for whatever reason a woman needs an abortion remains a NON point for me, and I donāt care to argue whatās valid or invalid based on ethics. A womanās reasoning are her own and Iād never dictate whatās right or wrong for anyone.
What I do know isā¦we will always use abortion to terminate pregnancies and we have since ancient times and will continue to do so until men have their balls snipped and get them reconnected with a licensing program wherein they have to show they can legally and financially provide for their sperm š and that will never happen because our society puts no emphasis on men being sexually responsible for their actions and the onus of pregnancy often rely heavily on women to protect themselves from pregnancy by men who can reproduce endlessly while a woman is capped at one child per year.
So whoās really the problem here š
I'm with you. I think about it. I'd like other forms for us as well. I wouldn't mind taking a pill if I could. Don't take away waterworld for me tho
You can still dump a load, youāre just carrying no bullets š
Majority of a manās load comes from a mucus gland that lives deep near your anus, and thatās the majority of the liquid that spunks out. So your mucus gland will still throw out some sauce, just no spice
š
I'm just saying don't take creampies away from me on the whole. I'm fine with it not producing a goblin
Agreed! More cream pies, less goblins š¹click to expand
It seems like he thought you were tricking him to pay everything.
Not every man thinks this way.
I'm a bit old skool so I think (we) the men should pay for everything. NOOOO It doesn't mean we should GIVE everything to her (noo ,Angelica Pickles) but to pay everything yes, we should as the man because we are there (my own belief) to be the backbone, the support, the strength. I like to be the one to show her around without stress or thought on her part but without money or income then no dating should be on the menu. I think the emotions got the better of him though with his anger and he just left you I'm afraid. He was really pissed and held it in.
Not every man thinks this way.
I'm a bit old skool so I think (we) the men should pay for everything. NOOOO It doesn't mean we should GIVE everything to her (noo ,Angelica Pickles) but to pay everything yes, we should as the man because we are there (my own belief) to be the backbone, the support, the strength. I like to be the one to show her around without stress or thought on her part but without money or income then no dating should be on the menu. I think the emotions got the better of him though with his anger and he just left you I'm afraid. He was really pissed and held it in.
I get the feeling you were being conniving by going out on a date and conveniently not having *any* forms of working payment with you. If you could make sure to have your makeup on, you can definitely make sure to have your basic life necessities in order as well. What turned him off is probably hidden in details you're not detailing, like the way you regarded him/talked to him with the expectation for him to pay. He noticed that, and that's why he asked if you could cover the next round. Based on your reaction to that, it went downhill fast. I have definitely heard the "I have expensive car payments" excuse from people who just didn't want to pay or commit, but didn't want to take responsibility for just saying No. BUT He also sounds like a major loser though, so in the end it worked out fine for both of you.
Did the guy call back yet?!
Posted by MayGemOfTheZ
WAIT! WHY OP was trying to Zelle money to HIM instead of PAYING for the drinks with HER CARD?
Zelle doesn't transfer money on weekends. I tried once to send it to my child, and she got it on Wednesday.
During the week - yes! Immediately. Weekends - pay Saturday - get Wednesday. Pay Sunday - get Thursday.
BUT she could pay tab with credit card!
Also, OP, WHO and HOW paid the tab after all?
This woulda been helpful infor 4 hours ago when trying to pay a contractor
Posted by misslibrascorpio
So I was seeing this Capricorn guy and I already read what a Capricorn sun sign is about but not trying to let it discourage me.
We hung out a few times before going on our first official date. Heās love bombing me and he bought me flowers.
Our first date was great! Mind you Iām the one who did the planning.
Second date I asked him if heād plan it. So he asked me āis sushi okay?ā and of course I said yes. So we decided 9 pm heāll pick me up and then he said he was running late so heād be here at 9:30 then 9:30 turned into 10. At this point Iām bothered heās late and he was also date for our first date. Anyways, I hadnāt eaten anything since lunch saving my appetite for sushi. We pull up to this Sushi spot that has always looked unappealing and they are closed. This entire time he didnāt even bother to check what time they close. He doesnāt even ask if Iām hungry and he just assumed I wanted to go to the bar and we proceed to go from one bar to the other and the second bar required an entry fee of $ 20 each. He paid for the first round of drinks we bar 1 and remember I didnāt even eat. We get into bar 2 and we
order and he asks me ābabe you got this?ā and I was confused.
I had told this man I just spent $ 700 on my car insurance and my car registration and I didnāt even have my debit card on me. I proceeded to tell him āwell I donāt have my debit card but Iāll Zelle you for the 3rd roundā. Heās like āoh donāt worry about itā and I said āno I donāt like how you put me in this awkward positionā. I tried to Zelle him but it kept saying pending so it wasnāt working.
He said Iām good with one more drink so we went back to the bar and he was waiting for me to pay and I said I tried sending you money can you check? but it still said pending.
The bar tender finished making our drinks and this guy says āIāll be right back Iām going to the bathroomā. Iām waiting for him and I even shake this guys hand next to me and apologizing for holding up a place because he was ordering drinks and I shook his hand. I am still waiting asking where he is and then he text me āhave a good nightā and left me at the bar!
I was so embarrassed, confused, and mortified this guy left me! He really just left me with an open tab at a bar.
Is this normal behavior for a Capricorn man?!
Why would anyone do this to a woman?
What? I'm dead at "babe you got this?" No ma'am. He needs to cover the date. Dump him. You deserve better. Man can't even do his job and cover a date.
Posted by misslibrascorpio
The chemistry was 100% amazing! Meaning sexual and mental connection was there. He was love bombing like crazy which was a little weird, he even bought me flowers.
He told me āIād be the type of guy to fill your gas tank and fix things for youā.
I have my own place and my Nissan but this man rented a room and told me the reason why he stayed with his baby mama was because he had nowhere else to go so to me itās not me being the mooch, heās used to living off a woman probably.
Clearly it wasn't 100% amazing chemistry or he would not have ditched you at the bar.
Dinner at 9pm?! Way too late imo even if he wasnt late. Idk where you live but no wonder places were closed at that hour.
I get that you think guys should pay but why? If someone turned up to a date with no money after I'd paid all the first one I'd not be impressed.
It's really unkind of you to comment on his financial circumstances. So what he rents a room. Maybe he couldn't afford to take out again.
He was 100% in the wrong for bailing he should just have just ended the date.
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