MBTI typing through astrology

I keep putting this in the backburner when I need to test it with as many human subjects as possible (so bots are NOT welcome).

The steps are simple

1. Post your chart (the graphic wheel, not just your placements)

2. Confirm if your birth time is exact or just an estimate. If you don't know the birth time, you can also post it, but accuracy would drop or it may even be impossible to type.

3. Get typed

It would be a guess (though I do believe it is decently accurate with some combos still being challenging), so if you already know which is your type or have some mild idea, avoid posting it. I would be interested to know after if you have been officially tested or have studied cognitive functions.

You can also post the chart of someone you know (relative, friend, lover, etc.), for privacy you could do so without birth time if you want to. Remember to blur or cover the birth data in any case.



If you want to take this way further and partake in a game with me, you can post a celebrity's chart.

Use charts from here https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/ whenever possible

ALWAYS blur or cover the birth data, I'm not supposed to know who the celebrity is, not even the gender.

Only confirm chart's rodden rating (this piece of info can be found at astro)

For example..

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Hitler,_Adolf

Rodden Rating AA

Celebrity can be very famous to somewhat obscure but need to have a presence at https://www.personality-database.com/

This is very tricky because typists go after what they are allowed to see, but it could end up being an interesting experiment/game.

If you know any celebrity who has done the official test and have divulged their type, that would also be great.



I would check on this way later as is 2am here.

Posted by ChowBBM

This is a difficult one to type due to the presence of both luminaries, 2 powerful planets (Venus and Mars are at home) and Saturn in the same modality and in angular houses.

Haven't done much research yet so I keep throwing darts with charts like this. I would go for ENFJ but engaging shadow functions such as Fi and Te (superego).

Ego: ENFJ - Fe Ni Se Ti

Unconscious: INFP - Fi Ne Si Te

Super Ego: ESTJ - Te Si Ne Fi

Some reading here..

https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/the-shadow-of-the-enfj-personality-type/

https://csjoseph.life/who-are-the-enfjs/

Posted by 1917191
I'm being greedy, you did say as many human subjects as possible .



+/-5 min difference. Multidimensional Gemini



+/-18 min difference. Origami crane Gemini



+/- 10 Min difference. Edgy squared Gemini



Exact. Robust Scorpio derrrrrrr

Cool! if you happen to know what could be their type, the feedback would be appreciated.

Gemini/Capricorn

May be deceivingly simple but ENTP.

Gemini/Virgo

More tricky. Also due to time it could be either ESFP or ENTJ, as things are probably the latter. May be likely to integrate subconscious functions so if ESFP -> INTJ, if ENTJ -> ISFP.

Gemini/Leo

Most likely a Ni dom, between the only available choices I would say INTJ.

Scorpio/Scorpio

Harder to type. For sure someone in the Se/Ni and Ti/Fe axis, I would choose ESTP amongst the 4 possible choices. Very likely to integrate subconscious functions so if ESTP -> INFJ, AND may do the same with shadow functions.

I don’t know how to post a picture

I am an INFP

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Posted by 1917191
I'm being greedy, you did say as many human subjects as possible .



+/-5 min difference. Multidimensional Gemini



+/-18 min difference. Origami crane Gemini



+/- 10 Min difference. Edgy squared Gemini



Exact. Robust Scorpio derrrrrrr

Cool! if you happen to know what could be their type, the feedback would be appreciated.



Gemini/Capricorn

May be deceivingly simple but ENTP.



Gemini/Virgo

More tricky. Also due to time it could be either ESFP or ENTJ, as things are probably the latter. May be likely to integrate subconscious functions so if ESFP -> INTJ, if ENTJ -> ISFP.



Gemini/Leo

Most likely a Ni dom, between the only available choices I would say INTJ.



Scorpio/Scorpio

Harder to type. For sure someone in the Se/Ni and Ti/Fe axis, I would choose ESTP amongst the 4 possible choices. Very likely to integrate subconscious functions so if ESTP -> INFJ, AND may do the same with shadow functions.
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You are very good. By the way the first three either have Aspergers, ADD, or a combo of both.

1) she is INTP but definitely err on the side of ENTP. High functioning, high IQ, EQ needs a bit of work, gifted /perfectionist, high energy.

2) He is definitely "I" I am not sure about the S or N, but he is definitely TP. This guy's brain is completely chaotic, he has to meditate to rest the brain. He has a lot of difficulty expressing emotions and dealing with emotions. He basically describe it as "put the emotions in a box and worry about it later". Would forget what he is saying if interrupted mid sentence, and his thoughts process jumps around. On a second thought, he does try really hard to be perfect despite his chaotic brain so he is probably INTJ or ISTJ.

3) he tested INTP many times. But I feel like he has a stronger F as opposed to T nowadays after learning to mask his Aspergers better. He has high IQ, high EQ, lower energy, procrastinates, more prone to being lazy/depression.

4) me, yup I tested INFJ many times. My friends and family tested for me and I still get INFJ. However someone I can talk to the daily nonstop is ISTP cap, we see a lot of things similarly.

I actually get along best with my brother (3). My brother and my mom (1) actually butt heads because she nags him too much without any consideration for feelings. My bf (2) and I are kind of too similarly passive and laid back it's not a good match imo, but he continues to take the relationship very seriously so again I think he is more logical (T) than me who is all worried and concerned (F).

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People with some of these disorders can be hard to type. I think in the community INTJ is the type who is commonly stereotyped as being in the spectrum. I have seen it mostly associated with Ni doms, some associate it also with Te or even Si. Ne dom/aux is associated with ADHD. Ofc it would be wrong to assume sensors can't be neurodivergent or that all intuitives have one or more of these conditions.

The Gem/Cap doesn't have any of the markings I have contemplated for Ti but I thought she had to use it by default going by the other functions. I'm thinking Saturn (one of her leading planets) in contact with Sun could possibly alter the function order, thus the introverted result. Something for me to consider from now on.

The Gem/Virgo is difficult to type just because of his Aquarius Saturn. Probably more than yours looking at it again. I came out with another interpretation, it suddenly bothered me I dismissed the soft aspects to Saturn in both your chart and his. If I prioritize Saturn then the order of the functions could be FiSeNiTe (ISFP). That statement about emotions.. I would argue only an emotional person would say such a thing. So Saturn is domicile, is better placed and its tightest aspect is to the Sun. He is in the middle of a process and the integration of the subconscious TeNiSeFi (ENTJ) would be the resolution, this isn't a dismissal of one's emotional nature but a need to balance it with the logical.

If the Gem/Leo types constantly as INTP we have a problem here, they have different functions despite the similarities in the surface.

INTP TiNeSiFe

INTJ NiTeFiSe

About your chart, Saturn is obviously prioritized but if I were to give more importance to its aspects then Ni and Fe would be more powerful than Se. That means ego type would actually be INFJ and Saturn is helping to bridge the differences (with subconscious type, ESTP). The Gem/Virgo's chart happens to show this in a more urgent manner due to Sun/Saturn, the inner conflict shown there (Gemini-Virgo) is relying on that.

I think INFJs get along best with other types that share their functions and the other Ni type (INTJ), ESTP may be a bit of a stretch though, particularly because the inferior function is rarely developed so it could end up being more of a clash of opposites, if not initially, eventually.

Your mother's chart paints her as a secretively charming person, it may that as a mother she adopts a more responsible, serious and disciplinary role (especially if the father happens to be dead or absent) leaving her to appear tough, inflexible and even cruel at times. Her socially conscious side then is kept hidden. Although compassion and warmth are traits that are said to be found more in Fi dom/aux. Fe can be impersonal but also more impartial and socially aware (I would even say they are more distinctively cerebral in the way they see society), more likely to mirror others and mediate situations. Fi can be more individualistic and rebellious. EQ would be the sum of interpersonal and intrapersonal skills, for a high EQ you would realistically need both but people in the spectrum or with ADD are said to have lower levels of self-awareness than others.

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Posted by june_r

Posted by ChowBBM

This is a difficult one to type due to the presence of both luminaries, 2 powerful planets (Venus and Mars are at home) and Saturn in the same modality and in angular houses.



Haven't done much research yet so I keep throwing darts with charts like this. I would go for ENFJ but engaging shadow functions such as Fi and Te (superego).



Ego: ENFJ - Fe Ni Se Ti

Unconscious: INFP - Fi Ne Si Te

Super Ego: ESTJ - Te Si Ne Fi



Some reading here..

https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/the-shadow-of-the-enfj-personality-type/

https://csjoseph.life/who-are-the-enfjs/
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I am an ISTJ 😅

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You identify with the superego functions then.

My guess was ESTJ - Te Si Ne Fi

Your result is ISTJ - Si Te Fi Ne

If the result of ISTJ is legit, that means ego type is INFJ. That could also make sense.

What does this all mean? the superego is another part of the mind that aims to supress unconscious impulses, this would be commonly depicted as the demon in one's shoulder (the id) asking us to do bad stuff. The superego would be the angel serving as a moral compass telling us not to. When you indulge the id, the superego punishes you with self-criticism, feelings of guilt, low self-esteem, etc. Logically there wouldn't be a strong superego without a strong id, that primitive part of one's mind that compulsively looks to fulfill our desires. This conflict, according to Freud, could be due to a complex. This is considered outdated and even controversial but you can read his ideas of it, especially those involving the father, a figure seen by the son as someone to compete and compare against and viceversa, a father seeing the son as a threat that could take away the patriarchal power he has and thus there could be attempts to hinder his potential, what could be seen as a psychological castration. Purely theoretical from my part but this could point to a likely integration of shadow functions from which a new attitude can arise.

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Approximate





Approximate

I would prefer to see degrees and less objects as I only use the 7 traditional planets, from Sun to Saturn.

Leo/Leo

Te/Fi

Ne/Si

ISTJ or ESTJ, I would opt more for the latter.

Taurus/Virgo

Fe/Ti

Ni/Se

I seriously need degrees with this one (this is a hard one for me), but I think ego type could be ENFJ or INFJ

If ENFJ -> ISTP subconscious

If INFJ -> ESTP subconscious

Posted by GenericUsername




I am an INFP

I would say you're very much a Si dom

Ego type is ISTJ SiTeFiNe

But you say INFP which is FiNeSiTe, same functions but different order.

What is happening here is another Sun/Saturn situation (as was the case with another chart above), but in this case as Saturn is final dispositor the effect may be bigger, thus the result could be ISTJ -> ENFP subconscious. But if you are convinced you are a INFP, this would be another chart for me to have in mind.

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Posted by GenericUsername




I am an INFP

I would say you're very much a Si dom

Ego type is ISTJ SiTeFiNe



But you say INFP which is FiNeSiTe, same functions but different order.



What is happening here is another Sun/Saturn situation (as was the case with another chart above), but in this case as Saturn is final dispositor the effect may be bigger, thus the result could be ISTJ -> ENFP subconscious. But if you are convinced you are a INFP, this would be another chart for me to have in mind.

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Thank you very much for the insight. INFP is the result I got a few times when I did the MB test online.

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Posted by june_r

Posted by GenericUsername




I am an INFP

I would say you're very much a Si dom

Ego type is ISTJ SiTeFiNe



But you say INFP which is FiNeSiTe, same functions but different order.



What is happening here is another Sun/Saturn situation (as was the case with another chart above), but in this case as Saturn is final dispositor the effect may be bigger, thus the result could be ISTJ -> ENFP subconscious. But if you are convinced you are a INFP, this would be another chart for me to have in mind.


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Thank you very much for the insight. INFP is the result I got a few times when I did the MB test online.

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I should probably add that quite a few believe typing as one's subconscious type (ego's tertiary and inferior function) can be a sign of high stress, depression, drug use, etc. Anything that has impacted/is impacting your brain's chemistry thus causing a shift in your consciousness. Nevertheless if I were to interpret Sun/Saturn (tightest aspect to Saturn) as if this were Aquarius Saturn then despite the difficulties linked to Saturn (as it denies, repress, cause delays, etc.) this should be seen as an opportunity to integrate such functions. Saturn is also known as the great teacher, it aspires to refine the characteristics of everything it comes in contact with. So when in contact with the Sun, this could imply self-actualization. It supports the individuation process by making you go through transformative experiences.

Posted by cersei
I’m interested in knowing what you might guess is mine since I have a different mbti from a couple ppl I know born the same exact day as me

Fi/Te with Fi as dominant.

The other axis is harder to spot. If ego type were to be Ne/Si (INFP), then you may be using Se strongly (shadow function). If it were to be Se/Ni (ISFP), then this would be the case with Ne. Since this thread is making me look closely all the soft aspects to a leading planet, my first guess would be INFP.

If ego type were to be INFP (FiNeSiTe), then the unconscious type would be ENFJ (FeNiSeTi). So INFP's 7th function here have some importance in your chart. This function has received other names in the community such as "blindspot" and "trickster". I would suggest looking into it, if possible also do the same with the ISFP->ESFJ (Ne blindspot) to clear all doubts.

Yeah, I think people born this day would have different types, house placements would be important

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Posted by june_r

Posted by ChowBBM

Posted by june_r

Posted by ChowBBM

This is a difficult one to type due to the presence of both luminaries, 2 powerful planets (Venus and Mars are at home) and Saturn in the same modality and in angular houses.



Haven't done much research yet so I keep throwing darts with charts like this. I would go for ENFJ but engaging shadow functions such as Fi and Te (superego).



Ego: ENFJ - Fe Ni Se Ti

Unconscious: INFP - Fi Ne Si Te

Super Ego: ESTJ - Te Si Ne Fi



Some reading here..

https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/the-shadow-of-the-enfj-personality-type/

https://csjoseph.life/who-are-the-enfjs/
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I am an ISTJ 😅
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You identify with the superego functions then.

My guess was ESTJ - Te Si Ne Fi

Your result is ISTJ - Si Te Fi Ne

If the result of ISTJ is legit, that means ego type is INFJ. That could also make sense.



What does this all mean? the superego is another part of the mind that aims to supress unconscious impulses, this would be commonly depicted as the demon in one's shoulder (the id) asking us to do bad stuff. The superego would be the angel serving as a moral compass telling us not to. When you indulge the id, the superego punishes you with self-criticism, feelings of guilt, low self-esteem, etc. Logically there wouldn't be a strong superego without a strong id, that primitive part of one's mind that compulsively looks to fulfill our desires. This conflict, according to Freud, could be due to a complex. This is considered outdated and even controversial but you can read his ideas of it, especially those involving the father, a figure seen by the son as someone to compete and compare against and viceversa, a father seeing the son as a threat that could take away the patriarchal power he has and thus there could be attempts to hinder his potential, what could be seen as a psychological castration. Purely theoretical from my part but this could point to a likely integration of shadow functions from which a new attitude can arise.


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Ooh that is interesting I do think my dad tries to compete with me



It is futile coz I’m like awesome and the new version of him 🤣



I also have sun opp Saturn



And all his sag stellium lands near my south node



So he holds me back bro



Very interesting

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I'm not versed in vedic but doesn't the SN/Ketu person typically ends up separating in these cases?

I don't want to shill for streaming services but I binge watched this show called Succession not so long ago and this all reminds me to this Sun/Saturn subject. I also have the opposition.

Posted by ChowBBM
If I wanted to act out my Id what mbti should I act like lol? I want to read what they’re like



ISTJ is super boring

That would be the unconscious type. If INFJ, that would be ENFP. If ENFJ, that's INFP.

I think the 6th function itself is also called the "Id function", if I ever learned the reasoning behind it, I don't remember it but if ego type were to be ENFJ, this function would be Ne. If INFJ, this function would be Fi.

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about Pisces placements? there is an incomplete diamond pattern in your chart, the empty point is in Pisces. If I were to associate the ENFP/INFP type to a zodiac sign that would be Pisces coincidentally.

You don't really seem like a ISTJ going by your writing style (not that I'm an expert), I think they usually have this stilted, didactic and formal way of communicating. Give lots of details, can't be concise. Teacher vibe. You seem childlike, more like an inferior Fe type (ISTP). That would be ENFJ's subconscious type. Makes me ponder..

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Posted by 1917191
I'm being greedy, you did say as many human subjects as possible .



+/-5 min difference. Multidimensional Gemini



+/-18 min difference. Origami crane Gemini



+/- 10 Min difference. Edgy squared Gemini



Exact. Robust Scorpio derrrrrrr

Cool! if you happen to know what could be their type, the feedback would be appreciated.



Gemini/Capricorn

May be deceivingly simple but ENTP.



Gemini/Virgo

More tricky. Also due to time it could be either ESFP or ENTJ, as things are probably the latter. May be likely to integrate subconscious functions so if ESFP -> INTJ, if ENTJ -> ISFP.



Gemini/Leo

Most likely a Ni dom, between the only available choices I would say INTJ.



Scorpio/Scorpio

Harder to type. For sure someone in the Se/Ni and Ti/Fe axis, I would choose ESTP amongst the 4 possible choices. Very likely to integrate subconscious functions so if ESTP -> INFJ, AND may do the same with shadow functions.
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You are very good. By the way the first three either have Aspergers, ADD, or a combo of both.

1) she is INTP but definitely err on the side of ENTP. High functioning, high IQ, EQ needs a bit of work, gifted /perfectionist, high energy.

2) He is definitely "I" I am not sure about the S or N, but he is definitely TP. This guy's brain is completely chaotic, he has to meditate to rest the brain. He has a lot of difficulty expressing emotions and dealing with emotions. He basically describe it as "put the emotions in a box and worry about it later". Would forget what he is saying if interrupted mid sentence, and his thoughts process jumps around. On a second thought, he does try really hard to be perfect despite his chaotic brain so he is probably INTJ or ISTJ.

3) he tested INTP many times. But I feel like he has a stronger F as opposed to T nowadays after learning to mask his Aspergers better. He has high IQ, high EQ, lower energy, procrastinates, more prone to being lazy/depression.

4) me, yup I tested INFJ many times. My friends and family tested for me and I still get INFJ. However someone I can talk to the daily nonstop is ISTP cap, we see a lot of things similarly.

I actually get along best with my brother (3). My brother and my mom (1) actually butt heads because she nags him too much without any consideration for feelings. My bf (2) and I are kind of too similarly passive and laid back it's not a good match imo, but he continues to take the relationship very seriously so again I think he is more logical (T) than me who is all worried and concerned (F).
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People with some of these disorders can be hard to type. I think in the community INTJ is the type who is commonly stereotyped as being in the spectrum. I have seen it mostly associated with Ni doms, some associate it also with Te or even Si. Ne dom/aux is associated with ADHD. Ofc it would be wrong to assume sensors can't be neurodivergent or that all intuitives have one or more of these conditions.



The Gem/Cap doesn't have any of the markings I have contemplated for Ti but I thought she had to use it by default going by the other functions. I'm thinking Saturn (one of her leading planets) in contact with Sun could possibly alter the function order, thus the introverted result. Something for me to consider from now on.



The Gem/Virgo is difficult to type just because of his Aquarius Saturn. Probably more than yours looking at it again. I came out with another interpretation, it suddenly bothered me I dismissed the soft aspects to Saturn in both your chart and his. If I prioritize Saturn then the order of the functions could be FiSeNiTe (ISFP). That statement about emotions.. I would argue only an emotional person would say such a thing. So Saturn is domicile, is better placed and its tightest aspect is to the Sun. He is in the middle of a process and the integration of the subconscious TeNiSeFi (ENTJ) would be the resolution, this isn't a dismissal of one's emotional nature but a need to balance it with the logical.



If the Gem/Leo types constantly as INTP we have a problem here, they have different functions despite the similarities in the surface.

INTP TiNeSiFe

INTJ NiTeFiSe



About your chart, Saturn is obviously prioritized but if I were to give more importance to its aspects then Ni and Fe would be more powerful than Se. That means ego type would actually be INFJ and Saturn is helping to bridge the differences (with subconscious type, ESTP). The Gem/Virgo's chart happens to show this in a more urgent manner due to Sun/Saturn, the inner conflict shown there (Gemini-Virgo) is relying on that.



I think INFJs get along best with other types that share their functions and the other Ni type (INTJ), ESTP may be a bit of a stretch though, particularly because the inferior function is rarely developed so it could end up being more of a clash of opposites, if not initially, eventually.



Your mother's chart paints her as a secretively charming person, it may that as a mother she adopts a more responsible, serious and disciplinary role (especially if the father happens to be dead or absent) leaving her to appear tough, inflexible and even cruel at times. Her socially conscious side then is kept hidden. Although compassion and warmth are traits that are said to be found more in Fi dom/aux. Fe can be impersonal but also more impartial and socially aware (I would even say they are more distinctively cerebral in the way they see society), more likely to mirror others and mediate situations. Fi can be more individualistic and rebellious. EQ would be the sum of interpersonal and intrapersonal skills, for a high EQ you would realistically need both but people in the spectrum or with ADD are said to have lower levels of self-awareness than others.


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What you said about my mom (gem/cap) / dad is true. Dad is a bigger baby than my brother and me combined, and would sometimes venture away from home to pursue some dream that doesn't come true. She attribute her popularity / extroversion due to her intelligence, everyone wanted to be her friend because she is exceptionally gifted. But she rather just be left alone to avoid sensory overload. Brother (gem/leo) is equally intelligent as mom but motivation is his downfall - school is boring to him. Teachers at school to ask to get him evaluated which confirmed he was on the spectrum. After his diagnosis he spent years adjusting his behavior to blend in with society. I think my brother has high eq because he can ask for a moment to gather his thoughts so he can output in a way neurotypicals communicate/ see things; my mom on the other hand is kind of a lost cause at her age. They each tested and got INTP twice.

The gem/ virgo bf, he cares about his shortcomings and want to fix them. My brother and mom think he behaves like INTP, but I feel like he really wants to be an ENFJ. Hard to type him just by behavior because he wants to be perceived one way but he is not. He strives to be sociable, ducks in a row, empathetic but in reality is he is shy/inward, unorganized/forgetful, and logical.

I heard INFJs (and double Scorpios) typically end up alone. Even in the current relationship with gem/virgo, I have attempted to break up to focus on myself. I want to move away because I have trouble fitting in with the way of life at where I currently reside for the past 2 yrs (let me just stamp INFJ on my forehead). Relationship is only 5 months, should be easy to part ways but it's actually very difficult; probably because my stellium sits in his 7th house.

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Are you the most neurotypical in your family? no sensory overload? no giftedness?

I don't do vedic but I noticed you have Sun/Mars in trine to the South Node, I think this could be good info..

https://barbarapijan.com/bpa/Graha_Yoga_Combi/Ketu_yuti_Surya.htm

They are not used in western astrology, but in vedic the South Node can make someone detached. Both Sun and Mars are masculine planets. Maybe due to your father, you expect other men to be unreliable so you rather stay detached and dissolve everything before that happens?

I shall give your bf's chart another look eventually.

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Posted by Iaorst


Approximate





Approximate

I would prefer to see degrees and less objects as I only use the 7 traditional planets, from Sun to Saturn.



Leo/Leo

Te/Fi

Ne/Si

ISTJ or ESTJ, I would opt more for the latter.



Taurus/Virgo

Fe/Ti

Ni/Se

I seriously need degrees with this one (this is a hard one for me), but I think ego type could be ENFJ or INFJ

If ENFJ -> ISTP subconscious

If INFJ -> ESTP subconscious
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You got right the preferred judging axes for both.



For the Leo/Leo... certainly not a Te dom. Usual area of conflict with others isn't due to a want to bend others' wills to conform to some objective intellectual formula that supposedly governs reality, as it is with typical Te doms. And Leo would agree with popular descriptions of Te doms like "domineering" and "invasive".

Leo's area of conflict is the 'laid-back-ness' and casually causing chaos for others without taking responsibility to control/minimize that chaos.

Typed as ESFP.



Taurus/Virgo... Yes, certainly an Fe-Ti user. And the disparity between the two functions is too noticeable, like in the way the Taurus would quickly subordinate own reasons to group harmony.

Most likely an Fe dom, also Ti inferior would make sense. This shows in Taurus getting stretched thin by social obligations to the point of exhaustion. Or starting a small business of transferring commodities and then selling the goods on credit only to close acquaintances and becoming a real life Santa as a result. I'm unsure which perceiving axis is preferred but Fe interacting with Se does seem plausible.



You did mention needing more data than the charts provided for better accuracy. Despite that lack of data you got the judging axes right.

If these were not purely guesses, it shows a marked improvement in your methodology from your other thread, if I'm remembering it well.

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Are you close to this Leo/Leo? or does this happen to be you?

I spotted Ni in this chart (not Se, otherwise I would have opted for ESFP but is hard to look at the aspects and how close they are as I said) but what came to my attention immediately was the Jupiter/Saturn opposition in the 6th/12th with Saturn being at home. Maybe Si/Ne is used unconsciously or in a rather private environment due to both houses being in aversion to the 1st house? I certainly make distinctions between what is visible (placed in angular houses) and what is not, but I'm not too sure if this would means ego Se/Ni - shadow Si/Ne (strong use) or the opposite as what is visible could be nothing but an elaborated mask.

You meant the temperament thread? I was still trying to find connections while using other astrology techniques then, I don't think I have done much since then besides looking at a few charts every once in a while as I'm not necessarily an astrologer. I always clashed with what I imagine Jung defined as the "type problem" so the whole thing was at a still for months without much if any improvement.

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Posted by GenericUsername




I am an INFP

I would say you're very much a Si dom

Ego type is ISTJ SiTeFiNe



But you say INFP which is FiNeSiTe, same functions but different order.



What is happening here is another Sun/Saturn situation (as was the case with another chart above), but in this case as Saturn is final dispositor the effect may be bigger, thus the result could be ISTJ -> ENFP subconscious. But if you are convinced you are a INFP, this would be another chart for me to have in mind.


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Thank you very much for the insight. INFP is the result I got a few times when I did the MB test online.


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I should probably add that quite a few believe typing as one's subconscious type (ego's tertiary and inferior function) can be a sign of high stress, depression, drug use, etc. Anything that has impacted/is impacting your brain's chemistry thus causing a shift in your consciousness. Nevertheless if I were to interpret Sun/Saturn (tightest aspect to Saturn) as if this were Aquarius Saturn then despite the difficulties linked to Saturn (as it denies, repress, cause delays, etc.) this should be seen as an opportunity to integrate such functions. Saturn is also known as the great teacher, it aspires to refine the characteristics of everything it comes in contact with. So when in contact with the Sun, this could imply self-actualization. It supports the individuation process by making you go through transformative experiences.

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I have Saturn in Capricorn 🤷‍♀️