Charisma

i was wondering about this because i notice that alot of public speakers, have a high rating of charisma,

even hitler had a huge amount of charisma, in his speaking, with that powerfully driven aries mercury.



and i notice that when i was reading today on the news,

there was this horrible woman who killed/murdered her children and her name is Isabel martinez.

there is a strange derangedness about her. Like she is mentally off and crazy.

it's a very disturbing news and photos of her making thumbs up at the camera.

when i google her, her name is similar to Isabel Martinez Peron, who was a president of Argentina, at one time but got arrested for non-humanity rights. An Aquarius sun/Virgo moon/Leo mars/Sag venus who didnt do the right thing for humanity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_Mart% C3% ADnez_de_Per% C3% B3n



now Eva Peron, the lady who was married to the man BEFORE isabel married him, (he only was super lonely so he got with Isabel after Eva Peron's death)

Eva Peron is and was known for her HIGH charisma, public speaker, and able to move the masses.

even Madonna wanted to play such a highly charismatic woman, who moved the masses.







Eva Peron has taurus Rising, Taurus sun /Mars in the 1st house, 2nd house venus, moon leo in the 4th house with saturn, and neptune. MC aquarius.

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Eva_Peron



what is charisma??

to you?

is it important?

Isabel Martinez Peron LACKED the charisma that Eva Peron has.

what makes a charismatic speaker? is it the aries mercury? (Eva Peron also has Aries mercury)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_Mart% C3% ADnez_de_Per% C3% B3n

reading isabel peron's biography here, she wasn't a good humanitarian at all. O_O

To me, it is someone that possesses a magnetic charm ✨

I found this ~

"Sun/Venus aspects, Sun/Chiron aspects, Venus/Mars aspects maybe Venus/jupiter or Venus/Uranus.

Venus/ascendant easy aspects, Planets in 7th or 1st house can bring charisma. Rising sign can bring some qualities but by aspects they are needed to be enhanced".

A couple of people i know that are seen as charismatic and have most of these placements Lisa

....important .... yes ...... makes interesting company 🙂

Posted by MyStarsShine
To me, it is someone that possesses a magnetic charm ✨

I found this ~

"Sun/Venus aspects, Sun/Chiron aspects, Venus/Mars aspects maybe Venus/jupiter or Venus/Uranus.

Venus/ascendant easy aspects, Planets in 7th or 1st house can bring charisma. Rising sign can bring some qualities but by aspects they are needed to be enhanced".

A couple of people i know that are seen as charismatic and have most of these placements Lisa

i notice VENUSIANS....

and yes, packed 1st and packed 7th housers.....Hitler was a 7th houser.

and both Eva and Hitler are Venusians.

Posted by 5TwentyOne
Bill had charisma. Hillary didn't.

Bill Clinton...venusian O_O

despite his leo sun, he has Libra rising and Taurus moon.

he maybe a strong 1st/ 7th.

Posted by 5TwentyOne

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by 5TwentyOne
Bill had charisma. Hillary didn't.

Bill Clinton...venusian O_O

despite his leo sun, he has Libra rising and Taurus moon.

he maybe a strong 1st/ 7th.

Indeed

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it is so interesting when you get down to the nitty gritty details on houses/energies. and you see some consistency...



JFK is also venusian.

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/John_Fitzgerald_Kennedy



Libra rising, Taurus dominant. Venus dominant.

empty 1st and empty 7th,

but the venusian dominance and placements are telling...

Posted by 5TwentyOne
I have planets in the 1st and 7th, plus, Venus is one of my dominants. I'm not charismatic. 😢 lol

i dont think that's true. lol



you are too modest.

Posted by Aliensusedourbogroll
Being able to connect with people, even if it's on a superficial level.

people love beauty.

and Venus is beauty.

that's unmistakable.

i truly understand now... alot of stuff.



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also i notice that George Bush was hated when in Presidency. He has libra moon BUT it's HIDDEN....12th house sun/moon? that 12th house hides energy. dissolves it...

and when starsshine mentioned HIlary clinton didnt have any charisma...

she is truly hated!!! jeezzz....

Lady Diana, i saw she is Venus domiannt. with 2nd house domiannt. libra mc.





no wonder she was so loved....

that venus is so strong.

Posted by Blue_Froggie
Sun-Jupiter

Moon-Jupiter

These two aspects are prominent about some of the most charismatic leaders... Venus-Pluto would give personal magnetism+Sex appeal

can you give some examples?

Posted by The_Ands
Stop talking about meh

lmao

you'll always be loved by people even if you annoy them. 😆

Posted by Blue_Froggie
Sun-Jupiter

Moon-Jupiter

These two aspects are prominent about some of the most charismatic leaders... Venus-Pluto would give personal magnetism+Sex appeal

I have all those placements Froggie 🙂

Posted by AneemA08
Charisma to me is a talent or skill to find other people's personal interest(s) or drives and evoke them out. At least, that's what I think.

It's quite important imo. In order to grab attention from one or people to create a force.



I'm still looking for ways to learn to attain that skill. Imo, It can help to serve purposes. Either personal, community, or public.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cutting-edge-leadership/201002/charisma-what-is-it-do-you-have-it

"Although people may not agree on a definition of charisma, they can generally agree on who has it and who doesn't. When I ask people to list charismatic public figures, John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Jr., FDR, Gandhi, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama are commonly and frequently mentioned. Ask about charismatic people from the world of entertainment and Oprah Winfrey tops the list, and Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart and Marilyn Monroe, are charismatic stars from the past.

On the surface, charismatic individuals, such as Bill Clinton, Mohandas Gandhi, and Oprah Winfrey seem to have little in common (besides being in positions of influence and leadership). But they all are recognized as having that "something special" that is charisma."



all mentioned have that strong venusian, without these people knowing anything about astrology (The article writers)

so interesting isn't it??

does it make other people jealous because of some people have these skills?

I could never be like Oprah or Marilyn Monroe or any of the mentioned....

but i can appreciate it alot.



@Aneema, do you have a purpose for wanting to achieve charisma?

(do you want to become a public speaker or politician someday? or something to lead?)

with myself, i have capricorn so that is repellent in itself. lmao

also i notice that with capricorn energy i want to repell people lol and with that aqua ...ewww!!! 😆 just kidding.

so it is at odds with me because i have that venusian dominant. so it is like sweetness and bitchy bossy stuff. So complicated!

no wonder George Clooney is so charismatic.....taurus, 2nd house sun mercury, and he's got that cappy moon...lol it must be at odds sometimes. 😆



cause that Isabel Martinez Peron is Cancer, Capricorn and Virgo dominant. with Leo mars/Sag venus, and the article says she lacks the charisma that Eva Peron has. Jeeeezzz.... Eva Peron has TOO much venus. no one can even....omg.

no wonder the "don't cry for me Argentina"

Posted by AneemA08

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by AneemA08
Charisma to me is a talent or skill to find other people's personal interest(s) or drives and evoke them out. At least, that's what I think.

It's quite important imo. In order to grab attention from one or people to create a force.



I'm still looking for ways to learn to attain that skill. Imo, It can help to serve purposes. Either personal, community, or public.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cutting-edge-leadership/201002/charisma-what-is-it-do-you-have-it

"Although people may not agree on a definition of charisma, they can generally agree on who has it and who doesn't. When I ask people to list charismatic public figures, John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Jr., FDR, Gandhi, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama are commonly and frequently mentioned. Ask about charismatic people from the world of entertainment and Oprah Winfrey tops the list, and Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart and Marilyn Monroe, are charismatic stars from the past.

On the surface, charismatic individuals, such as Bill Clinton, Mohandas Gandhi, and Oprah Winfrey seem to have little in common (besides being in positions of influence and leadership). But they all are recognized as having that "something special" that is charisma."



all mentioned have that strong venusian, without these people knowing anything about astrology (The article writers)

so interesting isn't it??

does it make other people jealous because of some people have these skills?

I could never be like Oprah or Marilyn Monroe or any of the mentioned....

but i can appreciate it alot.



@Aneema, do you have a purpose for wanting to achieve charisma?

(do you want to become a public speaker or politician someday? or something to lead?)

Ohh it is more like the X-factor in a person that is not necessariy describing specific skill.

More so a talent then?



Well, yeah. I wish I had charisma, so that my students will be motivated to practice English more, lol

Other than that, well.. Not anything urgent at this time being, more so speaking for the future.

for charity thingy 🙂

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aww maybe you can help your students more with other techniques. that doesn't have to be a motivational speech or anything. 🙂

charming, magnetic...



it's all a form of POWER anyway.

Posted by Aliensusedourbogroll
Being able to connect with people, even if it's on a superficial level.

Like Hitler, and many others...

it is POWER.

we're talking about.

Jim Jones. ect.



it doesn't matter if it's superficial, because it exudes to the MASSES....



and when you have that kind of power...you can do wonders with it.



or just not.



same with magnetic energy.



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😆 heehee

lol



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meglamania. lmao. 😛 😆