12th house

Even without like and believe in astrology, because peoples have right to change everything, and we no have autoral rights of concepts. I need to give knowledge about this house, a lot of peoples says pratical things about this house, but not the truth, the ascendant is 1st and most superificial, and 12th, the most... you, its the soul, the true i, at same time the worst enemy, your memorys, your unsolved things, and your trascendental, your true way, in astrology , you will need to battle with this to be yourself, the sign in 12 house is your soul, and the other aspects, the thing you will need to battle against, and win, to be free and less matherialistic, and evolved, it can be your dharma too, not only unsolved karma, after all, its the house of sacrifice and return to the god and all the origin

btw: i still dont believe in astrology, because even without identify with my sign, i dont identify with this 12th house to, who is taurus

someone need to do a better and more detailed study about this house, even without believe in astrology, this can made him better

every sites in google say this i have sayed

wtf?

what this gif have wiht the post lmao

its what astrology says, you are 12th house, these house don't represent what you want to be, but what you need to be in reallity, and truelly are without your personal desires, in favor of a greater thing, its house is the true soul

Posted by ellesbelles

No.

12th house is, says every serious astrologer says , sun have nothing with your true i, 12 th house have

ellesbelles go study more astrology, because you know nothing about, lets show you some sites

Posted by ellesbelles

No.

The meaning of life, the universe and everything else

We live the issues related to House 12 in an interior and subjective way. Everything can be experienced as mystical or dreamlike experiences and themes such as meditation, gift, surrender, unconscious and surrender to something greater than Being gain relevance. Through it we have access to the collective unconscious, with its timeless myths - it is where we feel collectively.

House 12 is still associated with large institutions, such as hospitals, monasteries, prisons and asylums, being considered the home of isolation and "emotional prisons". In the face of isolation, seclusion and inner silence, we can perceive the meaning of life; find ourselves; get in touch with our true Self, our Soul.

Thus, this House symbolizes the imprisonment of the soul that precedes liberation, enlightenment and the beginning of a new cycle of manifestation (House 1).

Only after this plunge into the Whole can a true rebirth and reintegration come later. House 12 represents, therefore, the dissolution that precedes rebirth; is the subjective, inner, unconscious self, while House 1 represents the objective, outer and conscious manifestation of identity.

When we review our lives, we can think of the things we have not done, or that we would like to have done. We also think about what we have done and remember the desires we could never satisfy.

This can bring some sadness as well as guilt or shame. But it brings pride and satisfaction when we remember the good things we've done (or the temptations we've had to resist).

Therefore, House 12 is the transition between the "old" and "new." We must surrender to circumstances we can not control to have a chance to be reborn. A new being endowed with a new vision (first house).

Think of a dark ocean, but full of possibilities, from where the light will emerge.

The twelfth house is also associated with our mental health, whether it is following a profession in the area or dealing with problems and illnesses. It also deals with meditation, reflection, self-sacrifice (detachment) and charity (giving).

It is an altruistic House, which means that it is associated with everything that revolves around public and social service, which are the areas that serve the people rather than seeking profit, where workers and managers are basically anonymous.

The Hidden Backstage and Enemies

House 12 indicates the areas where we have hidden enemies, people who want us badly and have no idea. Certain negative aspects of our map can also be considered secret enemies, which can sabotage us without our being aware of it.

It is also associated with hidden things, everything that is done behind the scenes, far from people's knowledge, either for good or for evil. When it is good, it is not shown by altruism or modesty. But when it is something evil, it is hidden and veiled on purpose to attend to selfish schemes.

House 12 still deals with hidden issues that are being discovered, such as scientific research.

@ellesbelles read and be refuted by this

Posted by GemLover

So let me get this straight. Because my 12th house sign is Virgo that means Virgo is the true me, my soul? Sheeed I don't want to believe that. Please tell me I didn't get that straight.

after all virgo taurus capricorn are the best signs, its not a bad thing

i have taurus in 12th house, i dont believe in astrology, and not look a taurus, but, the astrology says, its your soul and true i. who you need to fate

i have seem a lot of sites of 12th house, and , in the end, they says, its your true i

now talking seriously, maybe you will be very angry, but if you need knowledge, enter in the sites or this i have, put now, @ellesbelles, mosts says, house 12 is your true i and soul, and you uncounsiousness, your better and worst part, i personaly don't believe in astrology, even with this, because i still dont identify miself with house 12 taurus who i have, i am not essencially headstrong , earty and strong people

and with my terrible sun sign

"The twelfth house is also associated with our mental health"

yours must be a pretty fucked 12th house Lmao 😆

It's where we hide, as in with the first, we are seen

We can make ourselves prisoners with the 12th

Posted by MyStarsShine

It's where we hide, as in with the first, we are seen

We can make ourselves prisoners with the 12th

oposite we make ourself free, these house is the prision who we need to open to get true freedom

Posted by Endless

"The twelfth house is also associated with our mental health"

yours must be a pretty fucked 12th house Lmao 😆

yes, mental healt is fight against your weakness

Posted by painkiller300sparta

Posted by MyStarsShine

It's where we hide, as in with the first, we are seen

We can make ourselves prisoners with the 12th

oposite we make ourself free, these house is the prision who we need to open to get true freedom

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you are most what is in the other side of what your fear, the 12th house is 2 things, true i and the prision, you need to free this true i

i study, 12 th house, this is were the spirit live, astrology says this, karma is in this

no one with common sense says 12th house is bad house, astrologers says, the importance of this is like know your more deep essence, and fears, and get freedom

i will fight for truth, dudes, no one here seems to know and have been studied this house seriously

Posted by Endless

"The twelfth house is also associated with our mental health"

yours must be a pretty fucked 12th house Lmao 😆

ho now i understand, sorry i understanded mistaken your commentary, are not contesting the fact this is house of mental health fighting against trauma, but you are talking about mine 12th house, of course, is treetrunked, i dont believe in astrology but my subconscious is very traumatizing, but i still trying to say some information and knowledge in my unconvencional way, haha, i prefer to being called lunatic to say the mainstreem thing who peoples says, without argumentos, so i am not shamed about your comment, he have truth inside, i am a bit traumatizing,

but i dont believe in astrology exactly because my 12th house is about taurus, and my traumas have not with traumas, my true i, and soul too

sorry i have slowed to understand your comment 😆, now i need to go sleep some 16 hours to rest myself, i am bit tired after do a lot of hard things to do 😢

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Posted by MyStarsShine

It's where we hide, as in with the first, we are seen

We can make ourselves prisoners with the 12th

oposite we make ourself free, these house is the prision who we need to open to get true freedom

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Some choose self imposed imprisonement too....fear, repression, conditioning etc

My 12th house is empty, guess I’m soulless. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Posted by MyStarsShine

It's where we hide, as in with the first, we are seen

We can make ourselves prisoners with the 12th

oposite we make ourself free, these house is the prision who we need to open to get true freedom

Some choose self imposed imprisonement too....fear, repression, conditioning etc

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Some choose self imposed imprisonement too....fear, repression, conditioning etc

yes, this house is the devil and angel at same time, we are humans, good and bad persons at same time, free and close inside, depends on choices, personally after all the study i consider 12th the extreme of both sides of human race

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Posted by haunt

My 12th house is empty, guess I’m soulless. 🤷🏻‍♀️

12th house have a sun sign everytime, isnt empty

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without planets its not empty it still have a sign...

Posted by TheWeirdOne

The 12th house for me represents my trauma through parents, Sun & Jupiter opposite Saturn (6th)

Sun & Jupiter conjunct Chiron, severe bullying, physical, mental & emotional neglect.

Pluto 4th house represents me having to be emotionally strong growing up, not been given enough nurturance and having to learn to fight on my own.

Moon conjunct Mars. Growing up in a battlefield, every day filled with anger, abuse, the parents destroy each other, but in my case my mum was a slave to my father.

I live a very spiritual, intuitive & grounded life, i expect nothing that i can't give, and expect everything i can give.

I respect other peoples need for space as i need alone time too.

I am genuinely destroyed inside, but you cannot destroy what has been destroyed, the foundation that has built is far more solid than one would ever realize. Sun & Jupiter trine Pluto.

I need my time to express also, on a stage, in public, make everyone listen.

Moon conjunct Mars conjunct Midheaven in Aries.

Mercury 12th house represents not being able to speak through childhood, difficultly expressing ourselves, being shunned by anyone who did not want to here me speak especially my parents.

Saturn 6th house brings rigid body strength and a person who can work to a very old age.

but not only this, in the other side of traumas, you found your soul again, after kill bad kharma you get the good one, and your soul, i dont know what i am try to say

humans suffer a lot only about the things they really am, the soul, because of this house 12th are bad too, you try to protect you most deep side, and get a sea of traumas in your deep, inside of this sea you found what you are trying to protect, your true nature

Posted by Impulsv

My nnd is in 12 th

Sag

What does it mean

That is my true nature

Full circle since I need to become my nnd yet it is what I already am ?

yep, in the most of sites, and materials i get, its your soul, sun sign is important, but, 12th is most deep side of your nature, 12th sag maybe is freedom related to faith and travelers

exemple, i love fragility and simplicity, and have a lot of traumas rellated to say to me i cannot be this inside me in my soul, my true and most important nature is this, but traumas says the oposite

get your soul is fight against you most fear and afirm your nature

i guess our side of 12th house is both, what we mortally need to be, and carity to others

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Posted by Impulsv

I’m confused lol

It is abuse you may not be able to truly fathom, it is dark.

Well for me anyway, i am sure not everyone's 12th house experience is like mine.

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dude 12th house isnt a trash, is like the dark side, created for yourself, but fear creates this, you only creates darkness inside when you try too protect your most important side, your soul

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exemple, i love fragility and simplicity, and have a lot of traumas rellated to say to me i cannot be this inside me in my soul, my true and most important nature is this, but traumas says the oposite

So ur guarde against your true nature of fagrility and simplicity

But cuz of traumas ur defense mechanism push you from ur true nature

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yep, its the reason peoples tell this the house of true enemies, but these house guards your true souls, aprisioned by these enemies

Posted by Impulsv

Mmm so 12th being in sag

Means my own self trapping Out of fear of losing freedom?

Like marriage seems like a trap

marriage and love, is a contradiction, is a loose of superficial freedom to get a true one, you feel free close to peoples you love

i guess this, but if you see marriage as this

contradictions in the most good terms i say

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exemple, i love fragility and simplicity, and have a lot of traumas rellated to say to me i cannot be this inside me in my soul, my true and most important nature is this, but traumas says the oposite

So ur guarde against your true nature of fagrility and simplicity

But cuz of traumas ur defense mechanism push you from ur true nature

yep, its the reason peoples tell this the house of true enemies, but these house guards your true souls, aprisioned by these enemies

My exalted Jupiter guards from enemies, i am fine being alone also for the rest of my life put i push myself because my soul needs more to grow.

Jupiter in 12th is basically a guardian angel.

My name is also Michael, and it is uncanny almost how fitting "St Michael" is to my character.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael

"the Monday of each liturgical week likewise corresponds to the "Bodiless Powers.""

I was boron on a Monday.

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yes even without like to much astrologic things, i study this house because this have the true nature, contradictions, and you can have a very good 12th house or very bad, in words of astrology, it depends of a lot of things

Posted by Impulsv

This is good

So if you cansolved this 12th house thing

You can release ur karma or true nature n In turn be happy

yep, know the truth, fight yourself , and you will be free

all of us can have a darkness inside, know what are making this is the first thing to know what you are trying to protect and what fear of loose this is making this fear

Posted by Impulsv

Then probably the most important house

yes i consider the most important house without doubt

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exemple, i love fragility and simplicity, and have a lot of traumas rellated to say to me i cannot be this inside me in my soul, my true and most important nature is this, but traumas says the oposite

So ur guarde against your true nature of fagrility and simplicity

But cuz of traumas ur defense mechanism push you from ur true nature

yep, its the reason peoples tell this the house of true enemies, but these house guards your true souls, aprisioned by these enemies

My exalted Jupiter guards from enemies, i am fine being alone also for the rest of my life put i push myself because my soul needs more to grow.

Jupiter in 12th is basically a guardian angel.

My name is also Michael, and it is uncanny almost how fitting "St Michael" is to my character.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael

"the Monday of each liturgical week likewise corresponds to the "Bodiless Powers.""

I was born on a Monday.

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me like allsaints

but i need to study about angels too, most of time i try too talk my personal things direct too god

Posted by Impulsv

Wow who needs therapist

So mine in nnd sag

I value freedom n travel connections

But I feel relationships are trapping

Others expecting me to change to fit their needs

So I lose myself to fit their needs to make the relationship work

So now I cut off idea of ever being with someone

Because just me is not good enough

but i dont say relationship are trap, sacrifices are not oposite to freedom, in the end, instant pleasures are most enclosures than sacrifices, who give freedom to everyone, but, only you, and god, know what is in your soul and most deep nature, so, i cant say what you need

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Wow who needs therapist

So mine in nnd sag

I value freedom n travel connections

But I feel relationships are trapping

Others expecting me to change to fit their needs

So I lose myself to fit their needs to make the relationship work

So now I cut off idea of ever being with someone

Because just me is not good enough

but i dont say relationship are trap, sacrifices are not oposite to freedom, in the end, instant pleasures are most enclosures than sacrifices, who give freedom to everyone, but, only you, and god, know what is in your soul and most deep nature, so, i cant say what you need

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what i can say is, do not care with others think about you, but take in mind make your partner happy, do not try too be liked by everyone, but still trying make peoples you love happy, its good thing

this isnt about be liked and famous, and have a good status, its materialism and this is the true enemy of freedom, but like yourself, and make peoples you love happy, when its possible, but be free sometimes, nothing is impossible living in this way, at least in my opinion

I have my sun and Pluto in Libra in 12th house and Virgo 29° mercury in 12th house

Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies

I have my sun and Pluto in Libra in 12th house and Virgo 29° mercury in 12th house

i guess the best way isnt try to use the caracteristics of your signs

make one thing, what you fear deeply? what you more like in this world, most important and make you fear so much?

its a personal , you are unique person, and have unique fears and objetives

Posted by Impulsv

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its a personal , you are unique person, and have unique fears and objetives

Ah so like example

the most my soul craves companionship but fear it as well because they tried to change me

So I push it away .

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don't change what you like to be, is a good thing, you like to be in one way, be in this way, you are in the good side

sure, if this dont make others suffer and its not a egoistic form of live, priorizing get thing of others without giving things to others, like i say oposite to love isnt hate but ''use'' others, and i know you are not this guy