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Posted by I_am_youIt's okay, you're right.Posted by GoooberYou have no control over that.
*sigh*
I'm not sure if he's serious or just being manipulative. He confuses the hell out of me. He didn't kill himself that night (I calmed him down) but I'm still scared for him. I love him so much but he's way too clingy. What do you guys think based upon his placements?
Sun 17°42' Gemini
Moon 10°48' Gemini
Mercury 7°48' Cancer
Venus 22°15' Cancer
Mars 11°45' Taurus
Jupiter 5°35' Я Scorpio
Saturn 12°14' Pisces
Uranus 25°45' Я Capricorn
Neptune 22°51' Я Capricorn
Pluto 26°06' Я Scorpio
Chiron 4°10' Virgo
Ceres 17°22' Gemini
Pallas 28°23' Aries
Juno 17°03' Я Libra
Vesta 26°00' Taurus
Node 23°47' Я Scorpio
Lilith 6°22' Taurus
Fortune 18°52' Leo
AS 25°46' Leo
MC 21°43' Taurus
Sun House 10
Moon House 10
Mercury House 11
Venus House 11
Mars House 9
Jupiter House 3
Saturn House 7
Uranus House 5
Neptune House 5
Pluto House 4
Chiron House 1
Ceres House 10
Pallas House 9
Juno House 2
Vesta House 10
Node House 4
Lilith House 9
Fortune House 12
Uranus Conjunction Neptune Orb 2°53'
Sun Conjunction Moon Orb 6°53'
Mars Conjunction MC Orb 9°58'
Venus Opposite Neptune Orb 0°36'
Venus Opposite Uranus Orb 3°30'
Pluto Opposite MC Orb 4°22'
Mars Opposite Jupiter Orb 6°10'
Pluto Square AS Orb 0°20'
Moon Square Saturn Orb 1°25'
Sun Square Saturn Orb 5°27'
Neptune Trine MC Orb 1°08'
Mercury Trine Jupiter Orb 2°13'
Venus Trine Pluto Orb 3°51'
Uranus Trine MC Orb 4°02'
Mercury Trine Saturn Orb 4°25'
Jupiter Trine Saturn Orb 6°39'
Uranus Sextile Pluto Orb 0°20'
Mars Sextile Saturn Orb 0°28'
Venus Sextile MC Orb 0°31'
Neptune Sextile Pluto Orb 3°14'
Mercury Sextile Mars Orb 3°57'
Uranus Inconjunction AS Orb 0°00'
Mercury SemiSquare MC Orb 1°04'
Saturn SemiSquare Uranus Orb 1°28'
Moon SesquiQuadrate Uranus Orb 0°02'
Moon BiQuintile Jupiter Orb 0°46'
Sun BiQuintile Neptune Orb 0°50'
Moon SemiSextile Mars Orb 0°57'
Unless you have the savior complex.
I'm not trying to be an ass (I come off that way naturally? Sorry) but he feels like you can be manipulated based on how you come off (maybe).
You don't want to be sucked into that because he will drain you until you wake up one day wondering wtf happened to your life. This type of unhealthy relationship is like a magnet.
Run.
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Posted by xXxQueenliciaXxXhm I have been abused but I NEVER hurt people physically and that's the truth.Posted by lisabethur8Posted by shakedownPosted by xXxQueenliciaXxXYou are too precious to be abused.
Ok, now that I'm over my initial shock, I have to answer this seriously.
I was in an abusive relationship a long time ago.
The person who abused me, used threats of suicide as a means of keeping me around also.
I also felt like I was "in love" with this person. In the long run, I got fucked over big time. I was never the same after that toxic relationship.
You are playing a dangerous game right now and it really worries me that you don't see just how bad what he's doing to you really is.
Glad you got out.
Alicia was abused??
she seems so strong, when she was posting in the scorpio forum awhile back how she kicked and punched this Scorpio woman in a bar. O_O
I wouldn't even do that i'm too scared.
You never know what people have gone through to make them who they are today.click to expand
I would rather lock myself in my room and cry.
you have a strong bitch streak in you to go and find this scorpio woman and kick her ass, by punching her out.
Posted by ScorpioTruthhm ok...so you don't think Robin Williams had depression? 😕Posted by lisabethur8Did you really just compare robin Williams who had CLINICAL DEPRESSION to a man who is using suicidal threats as a method to control/manipulate a woman into staying in his life?Posted by ScorpioTruthno you're even NUTTIER.Posted by lisabethur8Maybe you're nuts too. ?Posted by ScorpioTruthit IS HER problem.Posted by lisabethur8Why are you making this her problem—? Please tell me you are joking right now.Posted by Ram416Posted by lisabethur8This might be an alien concept to you but there IS such a thing as being in a relationship AND having your own personal space. There are couples who are not clingy with each other and have their own activities going on.Posted by GoooberPosted by lisabethur8Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.Posted by Goooberif you want a break you are not into him.Posted by FknNerdThat's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.
Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??
only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,
unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,
I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.
A break/time - out happens when one partner gets too clingy and encroaches into the other's personal space. It can become very emotionally overwhelming for the other person.
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did you forget that the guy is wanting suicide??
or did that FLY over your head cause wanting space is so much more important.
He doesn't need her. He needs a psychologist.
DUH.
cause you are just don't care about people who want to commit suicide.
you call them crazy and don't care about them.
Look at what happened to Robin Williams, SUICIDE!!!
no one gives a flying fuck.
but when they die, everyone goes AWWW.
———??
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Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeStill no. I need physical intimacy to express myself and feel a connection. Taurus venus.Posted by LadyNeptunehow about 1 week every 4 months. i mean you can stay away from SEX for a weekPosted by CaramelizedCoffeeNo. I need sex on the regular and if your taking a 2-3 week break that violates our relationship contract.
this is what im saying, people need to take time outs in their relationships, like 2-3 week timeouts to regroup and think of their own individual lives.
what ya'll think that relationships should have time out contracts.
no cheating during that period, no harming, just a time to seek yourself and your purpose.
maybe like 3 times a year, just a week or two retreat for self.
i actually like this.
i am going to implement it into my marriageclick to expand
I only see my guy on the weekends + once or twice during the week if we're lucky. I don't mind it at all cause we both have time to focus on our careers and selves. When we are together the focus in on each other, not outside distractions. Still wish we could fuck everyday though...
Posted by xXxQueenliciaXxXthat's a revengeful streak in you.Posted by lisabethur8Posted by xXxQueenliciaXxXhm I have been abused but I NEVER hurt people physically and that's the truth.Posted by lisabethur8Posted by shakedownPosted by xXxQueenliciaXxXYou are too precious to be abused.
Ok, now that I'm over my initial shock, I have to answer this seriously.
I was in an abusive relationship a long time ago.
The person who abused me, used threats of suicide as a means of keeping me around also.
I also felt like I was "in love" with this person. In the long run, I got fucked over big time. I was never the same after that toxic relationship.
You are playing a dangerous game right now and it really worries me that you don't see just how bad what he's doing to you really is.
Glad you got out.
Alicia was abused??
she seems so strong, when she was posting in the scorpio forum awhile back how she kicked and punched this Scorpio woman in a bar. O_O
I wouldn't even do that i'm too scared.
You never know what people have gone through to make them who they are today.
I would rather lock myself in my room and cry.
you have a strong bitch streak in you to go and find this scorpio woman and kick her ass, by punching her out.
She deserved it.click to expand
I don't like that kind of energy. I don't do revenge on people. they get their own karma.
Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8No, as a nurse I just know the difference between a clinically depressed person and a mentally unstable one who uses suicidal threats as a method to control others. I have worked with both types of patients. Huge difference between the two.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8She is NOT responsible for his life. Breakups happen. That's fucking life. Part of being an adult. What rock do you live under?Posted by ScorpioTruthso ABSOLVE yourself of any responsibility whatsoever.Posted by lisabethur8I have never in my adult life wanted to kill myself over a man. No honey. That's not normal. And that is not her problem.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8She did explain. Did you miss the part about how she wanted to work on herself and didn't have the energy to entertain a relationship? Relationships are WORK. Especially when you have some mentally unstable person threatening to off themselves anytime you need space. ?Posted by GoooberPosted by lisabethur8Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.Posted by Goooberif you want a break you are not into him.Posted by FknNerdThat's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.
Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??
only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,
unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,
I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.
I couldn't deal. Master manipulation.
then don't be in a relationship if they are WORK.
people will get mentally and emotionally UNSTABLE if you fly off the handle and get a hair up your ass wanting to leave for space.
it causes a lot of emotional turmoil and pain.
He needs a psych evaluation. If his life depends on HER I promise you SHE is not the problem it goes way deeper than her. I cannot believe you are trying to lay a guilt trip. The same men that threaten to kill themselves over a break up are the same type that will KILL over a breakup.
OKaayyyyyyyy dokkeeeyyy.
I don't know what kind of battered woman's syndrome you've got going on over there, but she's not accountable for any actions that aren't her OWN.
oh see??! this is why people should NOT tell other people what happens in their life personally because if you REVEAL
you wanted to commit suicide, you are a FREAK and manipulative and stupid.
or if you got with an abusive man you are a weak ass battered woman syndrome. You cant REVEAL anything cause you got people like you being assholes about people's vulnerabilities and weaknesses.
this is WHY people keep quiet. because of people like you.
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If people want to commit suicide and you know them personally like a family member, they would NEVER tell you.
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you're diagnosing online?
Posted by GoooberPosted by LunabeeUh, to sum it up... Insecurity. He knows all about it.Posted by GoooberWhy do you feel you aren't giving it your all?Posted by LunabeeYeah. Being in relationships where I'm not giving my all make me uncomfortable. I needed to work on myself before I could give him what he deserved. He does so much for me. I want to do more.Posted by GoooberPosted by LunabeeNumb. I was just so focused on calming him. I couldn't cry. Didn't cry until the next day.Posted by GoooberHow did you feel when he threatened to kill himself?
@LadyNeptune I think so too. Just wasn't sure.
@Lunabee I'm okay with the clinginess I guess. But i do need space. He's also very possessive and sadly I have that same trait (possessiveness) so I do require a partner like that. We both have the Venus trine Pluto aspect. But I agree with you.
Why did you want to leave? To take a moment away?
I don't want to get into detail.
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Best of luck!!!
Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8Do me a favor and reread what I wrote. ?Posted by ScorpioTruthhm ok...so you don't think Robin Williams had depression? 😕Posted by lisabethur8Did you really just compare robin Williams who had CLINICAL DEPRESSION to a man who is using suicidal threats as a method to control/manipulate a woman into staying in his life?Posted by ScorpioTruthno you're even NUTTIER.Posted by lisabethur8Maybe you're nuts too. ?Posted by ScorpioTruthit IS HER problem.Posted by lisabethur8Why are you making this her problem—? Please tell me you are joking right now.Posted by Ram416Posted by lisabethur8This might be an alien concept to you but there IS such a thing as being in a relationship AND having your own personal space. There are couples who are not clingy with each other and have their own activities going on.Posted by GoooberPosted by lisabethur8Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.Posted by Goooberif you want a break you are not into him.Posted by FknNerdThat's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.
Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??
only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,
unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,
I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.
A break/time - out happens when one partner gets too clingy and encroaches into the other's personal space. It can become very emotionally overwhelming for the other person.
??
did you forget that the guy is wanting suicide??
or did that FLY over your head cause wanting space is so much more important.
He doesn't need her. He needs a psychologist.
DUH.
cause you are just don't care about people who want to commit suicide.
you call them crazy and don't care about them.
Look at what happened to Robin Williams, SUICIDE!!!
no one gives a flying fuck.
but when they die, everyone goes AWWW.
———??
i never said robin Williams didn't have depression. In fact, I'm pretty sure I said robin Williams had CLINICAL DEPRESSION. Reading is fundamental.
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i'm not a nurse like you, diagnosing, all I saw was a depressed sad person.
Posted by xXxQueenliciaXxXPosted by lisabethur8Posted by xXxQueenliciaXxXthat's a revengeful streak in you.Posted by lisabethur8Posted by xXxQueenliciaXxXhm I have been abused but I NEVER hurt people physically and that's the truth.Posted by lisabethur8Posted by shakedownPosted by xXxQueenliciaXxXYou are too precious to be abused.
Ok, now that I'm over my initial shock, I have to answer this seriously.
I was in an abusive relationship a long time ago.
The person who abused me, used threats of suicide as a means of keeping me around also.
I also felt like I was "in love" with this person. In the long run, I got fucked over big time. I was never the same after that toxic relationship.
You are playing a dangerous game right now and it really worries me that you don't see just how bad what he's doing to you really is.
Glad you got out.
Alicia was abused??
she seems so strong, when she was posting in the scorpio forum awhile back how she kicked and punched this Scorpio woman in a bar. O_O
I wouldn't even do that i'm too scared.
You never know what people have gone through to make them who they are today.
I would rather lock myself in my room and cry.
you have a strong bitch streak in you to go and find this scorpio woman and kick her ass, by punching her out.
She deserved it.
I don't like that kind of energy. I don't do revenge on people. they get their own karma.
Sometimes karma comes in the form of an ass whoopin. *shrugs*click to expand
you're way too violent.
Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8Touché.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8No, as a nurse I just know the difference between a clinically depressed person and a mentally unstable one who uses suicidal threats as a method to control others. I have worked with both types of patients. Huge difference between the two.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8She is NOT responsible for his life. Breakups happen. That's fucking life. Part of being an adult. What rock do you live under?Posted by ScorpioTruthso ABSOLVE yourself of any responsibility whatsoever.Posted by lisabethur8I have never in my adult life wanted to kill myself over a man. No honey. That's not normal. And that is not her problem.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8She did explain. Did you miss the part about how she wanted to work on herself and didn't have the energy to entertain a relationship? Relationships are WORK. Especially when you have some mentally unstable person threatening to off themselves anytime you need space. ?Posted by GoooberPosted by lisabethur8Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.Posted by Goooberif you want a break you are not into him.Posted by FknNerdThat's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.
Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??
only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,
unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,
I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.
I couldn't deal. Master manipulation.
then don't be in a relationship if they are WORK.
people will get mentally and emotionally UNSTABLE if you fly off the handle and get a hair up your ass wanting to leave for space.
it causes a lot of emotional turmoil and pain.
He needs a psych evaluation. If his life depends on HER I promise you SHE is not the problem it goes way deeper than her. I cannot believe you are trying to lay a guilt trip. The same men that threaten to kill themselves over a break up are the same type that will KILL over a breakup.
OKaayyyyyyyy dokkeeeyyy.
I don't know what kind of battered woman's syndrome you've got going on over there, but she's not accountable for any actions that aren't her OWN.
oh see??! this is why people should NOT tell other people what happens in their life personally because if you REVEAL
you wanted to commit suicide, you are a FREAK and manipulative and stupid.
or if you got with an abusive man you are a weak ass battered woman syndrome. You cant REVEAL anything cause you got people like you being assholes about people's vulnerabilities and weaknesses.
this is WHY people keep quiet. because of people like you.
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If people want to commit suicide and you know them personally like a family member, they would NEVER tell you.
you're diagnosing online?
But consider this. Even if he was clinically depressed, she is not responsible. He is 100% accountable for his actions. I'm sorry that you don't agree but it is what it is. If leaving the relationship is what she needed to do for herself, that's the ONLY thing she's responsible for. He is responsible for how he reacts thereafter.
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um when you're IN a relationship that makes TWO into one.
you are responsible for eachother, look out for eachother.
I don't know what kind of relationship you all are talking about but it sounds like one that isn't interested in taking care of eachother.
He has a saturn-chiron opposition (father wound)?...feelings of rejection and saturn in the 7th can lead to isolation in relationships.
Would he be willing to face his issues and get help? Not easy or for the feint hearted but worth it if he can find the courage
Sorry for what you are both going through
*hugs*
Would he be willing to face his issues and get help? Not easy or for the feint hearted but worth it if he can find the courage
Sorry for what you are both going through
*hugs*
Posted by ScorpioTruthusually suiciders don't say anything. they keep it to themselves.Posted by lisabethur8Just 4 months ago I found out my sons father whom I've spent 8 years of my life with cheated on me. Now I'm sad. But guess what? I moved out. I didn't threaten to kill myself to keep him in my life. I'm not saying people don't become sad/depressed after breakups. I'm not saying it's not normal to feel so sad that you consider ending it all. I'm not judging people who really go through that. But manipulation is manipulation. He didn't tell her that he was going to kill herself because he wanted her to find help for him. He told her that so that she would feel TRAPPED, and respinsible.. Kinda like how you are saying she should feel which BLOWS my fucking mind ——Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8Touché.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8No, as a nurse I just know the difference between a clinically depressed person and a mentally unstable one who uses suicidal threats as a method to control others. I have worked with both types of patients. Huge difference between the two.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8She is NOT responsible for his life. Breakups happen. That's fucking life. Part of being an adult. What rock do you live under?Posted by ScorpioTruthso ABSOLVE yourself of any responsibility whatsoever.Posted by lisabethur8I have never in my adult life wanted to kill myself over a man. No honey. That's not normal. And that is not her problem.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8She did explain. Did you miss the part about how she wanted to work on herself and didn't have the energy to entertain a relationship? Relationships are WORK. Especially when you have some mentally unstable person threatening to off themselves anytime you need space. ?Posted by GoooberPosted by lisabethur8Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.Posted by Goooberif you want a break you are not into him.Posted by FknNerdThat's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.
Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??
only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,
unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,
I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.
I couldn't deal. Master manipulation.
then don't be in a relationship if they are WORK.
people will get mentally and emotionally UNSTABLE if you fly off the handle and get a hair up your ass wanting to leave for space.
it causes a lot of emotional turmoil and pain.
He needs a psych evaluation. If his life depends on HER I promise you SHE is not the problem it goes way deeper than her. I cannot believe you are trying to lay a guilt trip. The same men that threaten to kill themselves over a break up are the same type that will KILL over a breakup.
OKaayyyyyyyy dokkeeeyyy.
I don't know what kind of battered woman's syndrome you've got going on over there, but she's not accountable for any actions that aren't her OWN.
oh see??! this is why people should NOT tell other people what happens in their life personally because if you REVEAL
you wanted to commit suicide, you are a FREAK and manipulative and stupid.
or if you got with an abusive man you are a weak ass battered woman syndrome. You cant REVEAL anything cause you got people like you being assholes about people's vulnerabilities and weaknesses.
this is WHY people keep quiet. because of people like you.
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If people want to commit suicide and you know them personally like a family member, they would NEVER tell you.
you're diagnosing online?
But consider this. Even if he was clinically depressed, she is not responsible. He is 100% accountable for his actions. I'm sorry that you don't agree but it is what it is. If leaving the relationship is what she needed to do for herself, that's the ONLY thing she's responsible for. He is responsible for how he reacts thereafter.
um when you're IN a relationship that makes TWO into one.
you are responsible for eachother, look out for eachother.
I don't know what kind of relationship you all are talking about but it sounds like one that isn't interested in taking care of eachother.
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and I understand why...it looks like they are burdening others with their problems. and people will call them freaks and manipulative.
so it's better to be quiet.
but I've had people call me up cause they had their significant other tell them they needed SPACE...
and to the other person who NEEDED stability so badly like a relationship that will STICK,
they got scared and afraid...like why did I trsut this person?? if I can't trust this person to STICK with me,
I feel lost and afraid and alone, they don't really love me deeply.
Posted by ChrisIsKodak*hugs* ?Posted by GoooberGOOBER!!!!! 😄
*sigh*
I'm not sure if he's serious or just being manipulative. He confuses the hell out of me. He didn't kill himself that night (I calmed him down) but I'm still scared for him. I love him so much but he's way too clingy. What do you guys think based upon his placements?
Sun 17°42' Gemini
Moon 10°48' Gemini
Mercury 7°48' Cancer
Venus 22°15' Cancer
Mars 11°45' Taurus
Jupiter 5°35' Я Scorpio
Saturn 12°14' Pisces
Uranus 25°45' Я Capricorn
Neptune 22°51' Я Capricorn
Pluto 26°06' Я Scorpio
Chiron 4°10' Virgo
Ceres 17°22' Gemini
Pallas 28°23' Aries
Juno 17°03' Я Libra
Vesta 26°00' Taurus
Node 23°47' Я Scorpio
Lilith 6°22' Taurus
Fortune 18°52' Leo
AS 25°46' Leo
MC 21°43' Taurus
Sun House 10
Moon House 10
Mercury House 11
Venus House 11
Mars House 9
Jupiter House 3
Saturn House 7
Uranus House 5
Neptune House 5
Pluto House 4
Chiron House 1
Ceres House 10
Pallas House 9
Juno House 2
Vesta House 10
Node House 4
Lilith House 9
Fortune House 12
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Sun Conjunction Moon Orb 6°53'
Mars Conjunction MC Orb 9°58'
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Venus Opposite Uranus Orb 3°30'
Pluto Opposite MC Orb 4°22'
Mars Opposite Jupiter Orb 6°10'
Pluto Square AS Orb 0°20'
Moon Square Saturn Orb 1°25'
Sun Square Saturn Orb 5°27'
Neptune Trine MC Orb 1°08'
Mercury Trine Jupiter Orb 2°13'
Venus Trine Pluto Orb 3°51'
Uranus Trine MC Orb 4°02'
Mercury Trine Saturn Orb 4°25'
Jupiter Trine Saturn Orb 6°39'
Uranus Sextile Pluto Orb 0°20'
Mars Sextile Saturn Orb 0°28'
Venus Sextile MC Orb 0°31'
Neptune Sextile Pluto Orb 3°14'
Mercury Sextile Mars Orb 3°57'
Uranus Inconjunction AS Orb 0°00'
Mercury SemiSquare MC Orb 1°04'
Saturn SemiSquare Uranus Orb 1°28'
Moon SesquiQuadrate Uranus Orb 0°02'
Moon BiQuintile Jupiter Orb 0°46'
Sun BiQuintile Neptune Orb 0°50'
Moon SemiSextile Mars Orb 0°57'
UR ALIVE!
OMG AND YOU'VE BEEN BUSY I SEE.
GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK, EVEN IF IT'S BECAUSE YOU DATE THE CRAZIES.
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Thanks.
and you know what? I didn't judge, they felt better because they weren't judged as manipulative or freaks because they felt suicidal.
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and you have to REASSURE them that life is still GOOD!! that they don't need that fucker.
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and you have to REASSURE them that life is still GOOD!! that they don't need that fucker.
Posted by MyStarsShineIf you're asking does he has issues with his dad....YES.
He has a saturn-chiron opposition (father wound)?...feelings of rejection and saturn in the 7th can lead to isolation in relationships.
Would he be willing to face his issues and get help? Not easy or for the feint hearted but worth it if he can find the courage
Sorry for what you are both going through
*hugs*
Posted by GoooberPosted by MyStarsShineIf you're asking does he has issues with his dad....YES.
He has a saturn-chiron opposition (father wound)?...feelings of rejection and saturn in the 7th can lead to isolation in relationships.
Would he be willing to face his issues and get help? Not easy or for the feint hearted but worth it if he can find the courage
Sorry for what you are both going through
*hugs*
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Yes...as I said father wound
He probably needs to face these and get some healing around them....if not, he will keep going back to that place of fear, insecurity etc. it's a cycle that needs to end
Posted by LadyNeptuneAny clue about this op?
Have you asked him his reasons for feeling suicidal?
Anytime anyone uses suicide as a way to keep you from leaving, it's pure manipulation.
Posted by LadyNeptuneTired of being hurt. Just wants to be loved. Feels like his life is a wreck.Posted by LadyNeptuneAny clue about this op?
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I'm not sure if he's serious or just being manipulative. He confuses the hell out of me. He didn't kill himself that night (I calmed him down) but I'm still scared for him. I love him so much but he's way too clingy. What do you guys think based upon his placements?
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I don't have any memes to trade ?
I'm lame, I know. Forgive me.
Posted by GoooberPosted by LadyNeptuneTired of being hurt. Just wants to be loved. Feels like his life is a wreck.Posted by LadyNeptuneAny clue about this op?
Have you asked him his reasons for feeling suicidal?
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The problem is no matter how much he is loved, he won't feel it
Posted by lisabethur8So in other words you're saying the other party has no right to protect his/her emotional wellbeing because the partner threatened suicide? You do realise that this can lead to emotional abuse, right? That's even worse than physical abuse because no scars and bruises.Posted by ScorpioTruthusually suiciders don't say anything. they keep it to themselves.Posted by lisabethur8Just 4 months ago I found out my sons father whom I've spent 8 years of my life with cheated on me. Now I'm sad. But guess what? I moved out. I didn't threaten to kill myself to keep him in my life. I'm not saying people don't become sad/depressed after breakups. I'm not saying it's not normal to feel so sad that you consider ending it all. I'm not judging people who really go through that. But manipulation is manipulation. He didn't tell her that he was going to kill herself because he wanted her to find help for him. He told her that so that she would feel TRAPPED, and respinsible.. Kinda like how you are saying she should feel which BLOWS my fucking mind ——Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8Touché.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8No, as a nurse I just know the difference between a clinically depressed person and a mentally unstable one who uses suicidal threats as a method to control others. I have worked with both types of patients. Huge difference between the two.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8She is NOT responsible for his life. Breakups happen. That's fucking life. Part of being an adult. What rock do you live under?Posted by ScorpioTruthso ABSOLVE yourself of any responsibility whatsoever.Posted by lisabethur8I have never in my adult life wanted to kill myself over a man. No honey. That's not normal. And that is not her problem.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8She did explain. Did you miss the part about how she wanted to work on herself and didn't have the energy to entertain a relationship? Relationships are WORK. Especially when you have some mentally unstable person threatening to off themselves anytime you need space. ?Posted by GoooberPosted by lisabethur8Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.Posted by Goooberif you want a break you are not into him.Posted by FknNerdThat's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.
Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??
only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,
unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,
I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.
I couldn't deal. Master manipulation.
then don't be in a relationship if they are WORK.
people will get mentally and emotionally UNSTABLE if you fly off the handle and get a hair up your ass wanting to leave for space.
it causes a lot of emotional turmoil and pain.
He needs a psych evaluation. If his life depends on HER I promise you SHE is not the problem it goes way deeper than her. I cannot believe you are trying to lay a guilt trip. The same men that threaten to kill themselves over a break up are the same type that will KILL over a breakup.
OKaayyyyyyyy dokkeeeyyy.
I don't know what kind of battered woman's syndrome you've got going on over there, but she's not accountable for any actions that aren't her OWN.
oh see??! this is why people should NOT tell other people what happens in their life personally because if you REVEAL
you wanted to commit suicide, you are a FREAK and manipulative and stupid.
or if you got with an abusive man you are a weak ass battered woman syndrome. You cant REVEAL anything cause you got people like you being assholes about people's vulnerabilities and weaknesses.
this is WHY people keep quiet. because of people like you.
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If people want to commit suicide and you know them personally like a family member, they would NEVER tell you.
you're diagnosing online?
But consider this. Even if he was clinically depressed, she is not responsible. He is 100% accountable for his actions. I'm sorry that you don't agree but it is what it is. If leaving the relationship is what she needed to do for herself, that's the ONLY thing she's responsible for. He is responsible for how he reacts thereafter.
um when you're IN a relationship that makes TWO into one.
you are responsible for eachother, look out for eachother.
I don't know what kind of relationship you all are talking about but it sounds like one that isn't interested in taking care of eachother.
and I understand why...it looks like they are burdening others with their problems. and people will call them freaks and manipulative.
so it's better to be quiet.
but I've had people call me up cause they had their significant other tell them they needed SPACE...
and to the other person who NEEDED stability so badly like a relationship that will STICK,
they got scared and afraid...like why did I trsut this person?? if I can't trust this person to STICK with me,
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It's not about being scared and afraid, it's about not losing your mind and sanity in the process of loving someone. What part of that do you not understand?
You bring up people like Robin Williams - completely different scenario. He was chronic depressed for decades and he took his life because it got too much for him in the end. It had nothing to do with someone leaving him.
Posted by MyStarsShineYou know, I kinda figured that. He's told me that he's always felt used.Posted by GoooberPosted by LadyNeptuneTired of being hurt. Just wants to be loved. Feels like his life is a wreck.Posted by LadyNeptuneAny clue about this op?
Have you asked him his reasons for feeling suicidal?
The problem is no matter how much he is loved, he won't feel it
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Posted by lisabethur8Are you speaking from experience?
usually suiciders don't say anything. they keep it to themselves.
Posted by GoooberAny specific events, loses etc.?Posted by LadyNeptuneTired of being hurt. Just wants to be loved. Feels like his life is a wreck.Posted by LadyNeptuneAny clue about this op?
Have you asked him his reasons for feeling suicidal?
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Posted by GoooberWhilst he carries that mindset, he won't be open to lovePosted by MyStarsShineYou know, I kinda figured that. He's told me that he's always felt used.Posted by GoooberPosted by LadyNeptuneTired of being hurt. Just wants to be loved. Feels like his life is a wreck.Posted by LadyNeptuneAny clue about this op?
Have you asked him his reasons for feeling suicidal?
The problem is no matter how much he is loved, he won't feel it
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My father was like it all his life. He was neglected by his mother and father....never went for any therapy, only to doctors who filled him with drugs...he numbed it all out but never faced it or healed it
Sadly, you cannot have a functional rship with someone who is that dysfunctional
Sad, but true
Posted by LadyNeptuneYeah. His ex that he's definitely not over but he says he's over her since he's met me but I doubt it. She left him and he's told me a lot. He's told me about the things that hurt him and everything. Plus, he's depending on his dad right now... not happy about that.Posted by GoooberAny specific events, loses etc.?Posted by LadyNeptuneTired of being hurt. Just wants to be loved. Feels like his life is a wreck.Posted by LadyNeptuneAny clue about this op?
Have you asked him his reasons for feeling suicidal?
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Was he abused?
Posted by MyStarsShineI'm going to ask him if he thinks I truly love him because I do. He's the only guy I've really opened up to. This relationship has been very intense. He tells his friends that I'm different. He's opened up to me. He tells me he loves me more than I tell him. Idk. He tells me about our future a lot. I just think its different this time.Posted by GoooberWhilst he carries that mindset, he won't be open to lovePosted by MyStarsShineYou know, I kinda figured that. He's told me that he's always felt used.Posted by GoooberPosted by LadyNeptuneTired of being hurt. Just wants to be loved. Feels like his life is a wreck.Posted by LadyNeptuneAny clue about this op?
Have you asked him his reasons for feeling suicidal?
The problem is no matter how much he is loved, he won't feel it
My father was like it all his life. He was neglected by his mother and father....never went for any therapy, only to doctors who filled him with drugs...he numbed it all out but never faced it or healed it
Sadly, you cannot have a functional rship with someone who is that dysfunctional
Sad, but true
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Posted by GoooberPosted by LadyNeptuneYeah. His ex that he's definitely not over but he says he's over her since he's met me but I doubt it. She left him and he's told me a lot. He's told me about the things that hurt him and everything. Plus, he's depending on his dad right now... not happy about that.Posted by GoooberAny specific events, loses etc.?Posted by LadyNeptuneTired of being hurt. Just wants to be loved. Feels like his life is a wreck.Posted by LadyNeptuneAny clue about this op?
Have you asked him his reasons for feeling suicidal?
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I'm going to sound callous right now but please understand my intent is to help...
What your describing, loss of a relationship and financial dependence, are common enough occurrences in virtually everyone's life. He didn't suffer a family member or close friends death. He isn't suffering from ptsd from seeing action. He isn't suffering from a sexual or violent assault to his person. So the fact that he is threatening suicide over such minor and common enough life experiences leads me to believe that...
a) he is manipulating you in order to feel compelled to stay and boost his ego, or...
b) he doesn't have the tools capable of dealing with anything life throws at him.
Irregardless of which one it is, you staying will not help him but rather stunt his growth. Not to mention you are putting on hold what you want. Your best course of action is to help him seek counselling and be there as a friend (if you can handle that). But you need to put yourself first.
Posted by topesAs opposed to it going great places with no talking whatsoever. you sound dumb as hell.
This thread will go absolutely nowhere without yknow.. Actual information..
You women talk too much.
Posted by LadyNeptuneI figured he was just being manipulative...Posted by GoooberPosted by LadyNeptuneYeah. His ex that he's definitely not over but he says he's over her since he's met me but I doubt it. She left him and he's told me a lot. He's told me about the things that hurt him and everything. Plus, he's depending on his dad right now... not happy about that.Posted by GoooberAny specific events, loses etc.?Posted by LadyNeptuneTired of being hurt. Just wants to be loved. Feels like his life is a wreck.Posted by LadyNeptuneAny clue about this op?
Have you asked him his reasons for feeling suicidal?
I'm going to sound callous right now but please understand my intent is to help...
What your describing, loss of a relationship and financial dependence, are common enough occurrences in virtually everyone's life. He didn't suffer a family member or close friends death. He isn't suffering from ptsd from seeing action. He isn't suffering from a sexual or violent assault to his person. So the fact that he is threatening suicide over such minor and common enough life experiences leads me to believe that...
a) he is manipulating you in order to feel compelled to stay and boost his ego, or...
b) he doesn't have the tools capable of dealing with anything life throws at him.
Irregardless of which one it is, you staying will not help him but rather stunt his growth. Not to mention you are putting on hold what you want. Your best course of action is to help him seek counselling and be there as a friend (if you can handle that). But you need to put yourself first.
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Posted by LadyNeptuneI second this.Posted by GoooberPosted by LadyNeptuneYeah. His ex that he's definitely not over but he says he's over her since he's met me but I doubt it. She left him and he's told me a lot. He's told me about the things that hurt him and everything. Plus, he's depending on his dad right now... not happy about that.Posted by GoooberAny specific events, loses etc.?Posted by LadyNeptuneTired of being hurt. Just wants to be loved. Feels like his life is a wreck.Posted by LadyNeptuneAny clue about this op?
Have you asked him his reasons for feeling suicidal?
I'm going to sound callous right now but please understand my intent is to help...
What your describing, loss of a relationship and financial dependence, are common enough occurrences in virtually everyone's life. He didn't suffer a family member or close friends death. He isn't suffering from ptsd from seeing action. He isn't suffering from a sexual or violent assault to his person. So the fact that he is threatening suicide over such minor and common enough life experiences leads me to believe that...
a) he is manipulating you in order to feel compelled to stay and boost his ego, or...
b) he doesn't have the tools capable of dealing with anything life throws at him.
Irregardless of which one it is, you staying will not help him but rather stunt his growth. Not to mention you are putting on hold what you want. Your best course of action is to help him seek counselling and be there as a friend (if you can handle that). But you need to put yourself first.
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Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeThis is good. Keeps everything balanced. Both parties get time for some self-improvement.
this is what im saying, people need to take time outs in their relationships, like 2-3 week timeouts to regroup and think of their own individual lives.
what ya'll think that relationships should have time out contracts.
no cheating during that period, no harming, just a time to seek yourself and your purpose.
maybe like 3 times a year, just a week or two retreat for self.
He sounds like a sheltered douche and he throws tantrums to get his way because it always works.
I'd likely leave them. Anyone who is that crazy should be forced to make the decision between fixing themselves or just leaving this life.
Posted by GoooberAaaaahh right....thought as muchPosted by MyStarsShineMost certainly.
Was he abused?
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Then he wont be able for a relationship which is healthy until he makes strides towards getting help. You can encourage him and support him on this, but you must also be mindful of your own mental health too as you could also become very drained by his stuff.......which isn't yours. I have been there more than once with men....gave it my best, but in the end each one of them chose not to move forward, so i had to
Good luck with this
x
Posted by ScorpioTruthwhat is wrong with you people?Posted by Ram416She lives in fairytale land or something, all that talk about how relationships turn two into one. It looks good on paper but it's not realistic, nor is it healthy.Posted by lisabethur8So in other words you're saying the other party has no right to protect his/her emotional wellbeing because the partner threatened suicide? You do realise that this can lead to emotional abuse, right? That's even worse than physical abuse because no scars and bruises.Posted by ScorpioTruthusually suiciders don't say anything. they keep it to themselves.Posted by lisabethur8Just 4 months ago I found out my sons father whom I've spent 8 years of my life with cheated on me. Now I'm sad. But guess what? I moved out. I didn't threaten to kill myself to keep him in my life. I'm not saying people don't become sad/depressed after breakups. I'm not saying it's not normal to feel so sad that you consider ending it all. I'm not judging people who really go through that. But manipulation is manipulation. He didn't tell her that he was going to kill herself because he wanted her to find help for him. He told her that so that she would feel TRAPPED, and respinsible.. Kinda like how you are saying she should feel which BLOWS my fucking mind ——Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8Touché.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8No, as a nurse I just know the difference between a clinically depressed person and a mentally unstable one who uses suicidal threats as a method to control others. I have worked with both types of patients. Huge difference between the two.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8She is NOT responsible for his life. Breakups happen. That's fucking life. Part of being an adult. What rock do you live under?Posted by ScorpioTruthso ABSOLVE yourself of any responsibility whatsoever.Posted by lisabethur8I have never in my adult life wanted to kill myself over a man. No honey. That's not normal. And that is not her problem.Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by lisabethur8She did explain. Did you miss the part about how she wanted to work on herself and didn't have the energy to entertain a relationship? Relationships are WORK. Especially when you have some mentally unstable person threatening to off themselves anytime you need space. ?Posted by GoooberPosted by lisabethur8Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.Posted by Goooberif you want a break you are not into him.Posted by FknNerdThat's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.
Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??
only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,
unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,
I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.
I couldn't deal. Master manipulation.
then don't be in a relationship if they are WORK.
people will get mentally and emotionally UNSTABLE if you fly off the handle and get a hair up your ass wanting to leave for space.
it causes a lot of emotional turmoil and pain.
He needs a psych evaluation. If his life depends on HER I promise you SHE is not the problem it goes way deeper than her. I cannot believe you are trying to lay a guilt trip. The same men that threaten to kill themselves over a break up are the same type that will KILL over a breakup.
OKaayyyyyyyy dokkeeeyyy.
I don't know what kind of battered woman's syndrome you've got going on over there, but she's not accountable for any actions that aren't her OWN.
oh see??! this is why people should NOT tell other people what happens in their life personally because if you REVEAL
you wanted to commit suicide, you are a FREAK and manipulative and stupid.
or if you got with an abusive man you are a weak ass battered woman syndrome. You cant REVEAL anything cause you got people like you being assholes about people's vulnerabilities and weaknesses.
this is WHY people keep quiet. because of people like you.
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If people want to commit suicide and you know them personally like a family member, they would NEVER tell you.
you're diagnosing online?
But consider this. Even if he was clinically depressed, she is not responsible. He is 100% accountable for his actions. I'm sorry that you don't agree but it is what it is. If leaving the relationship is what she needed to do for herself, that's the ONLY thing she's responsible for. He is responsible for how he reacts thereafter.
um when you're IN a relationship that makes TWO into one.
you are responsible for eachother, look out for eachother.
I don't know what kind of relationship you all are talking about but it sounds like one that isn't interested in taking care of eachother.
and I understand why...it looks like they are burdening others with their problems. and people will call them freaks and manipulative.
so it's better to be quiet.
but I've had people call me up cause they had their significant other tell them they needed SPACE...
and to the other person who NEEDED stability so badly like a relationship that will STICK,
they got scared and afraid...like why did I trsut this person?? if I can't trust this person to STICK with me,
I feel lost and afraid and alone, they don't really love me deeply.
It's not about being scared and afraid, it's about not losing your mind and sanity in the process of loving someone. What part of that do you not understand?
You bring up people like Robin Williams - completely different scenario. He was chronic depressed for decades and he took his life because it got too much for him in the end. It had nothing to do with someone leaving him.
I absolutely agree that both parties should be concerned about the wellbeing of each other.
*BOTH* parties... Including him. Why does he feel comfortable trying to guilt her into staying? How is that love? Love and desperation are not the same, although Lisa appears to think so.
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everytime I am trying to see the suicider's turmoil or someone's pov that is NOT the OP because she tells everyone and their grandma that her boyfriend wants to commit suicide,
which is obviously here is NOT the place,
you all group against me like i'm the evil one because I don't see how the OP is kind and nice when she is telling the secrets and turmoil of her boyfriend whom she says she LOVES.
what kind of girlfriend is she??
she doesn't go and find help for him and instead comes here and tells on him and has people slandering him.
and you are about the worse. an ONLINE nurse going to diagnose some suicider, O_O
here on dxp. via a girlfriend.
edit and all you can do is go tear me down on my relationship way of being together and taking responsibility for eachother.
I would never like the OP as a girlfriend, coming in here and revealing a most sensitivie thing like this, to strangers about suicide.
How would YOU like it if you were ever in this situation and your boyfriend or girlfriend told on you to a bunch of strangers a very sensitive subject?
you would NEVER trust her /him again.
here on dxp. via a girlfriend.
edit and all you can do is go tear me down on my relationship way of being together and taking responsibility for eachother.
I would never like the OP as a girlfriend, coming in here and revealing a most sensitivie thing like this, to strangers about suicide.
How would YOU like it if you were ever in this situation and your boyfriend or girlfriend told on you to a bunch of strangers a very sensitive subject?
you would NEVER trust her /him again.
Posted by sakuraflowersit probably triggered when she said she wanted space.Posted by lisabethur8Lisa, a close Cap friend of mine took his life because of depression...and because of that, depression has always been a topic that hits close to home. He had depression for many years prior. But the one thing he would NEVER do is something like to tell a girl that he likes to date him or he will kill himself. While battling depression, he had 2 relationships. He told me ... that he wanted his girlfriend could live the life she wants. Nevermind suicide threats, I don't think either of his ex knew that he had depression at all.Posted by Ram416Posted by lisabethur8This might be an alien concept to you but there IS such a thing as being in a relationship AND having your own personal space. There are couples who are not clingy with each other and have their own activities going on.Posted by GoooberPosted by lisabethur8Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.Posted by Goooberif you want a break you are not into him.Posted by FknNerdThat's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.
Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??
only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,
unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,
I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.
A break/time - out happens when one partner gets too clingy and encroaches into the other's personal space. It can become very emotionally overwhelming for the other person.
??
did you forget that the guy is wanting suicide??
or did that FLY over your head cause wanting space is so much more important.
I'm not even sure if the guy in question has depression or just plain manipulative. If he has depression, he needs to seek help, because even if she stayed, it doesn't solve the root problem, which is the depression itself. Even if she stayed, she cannot be around him every waking second of her life to ensure he doesn't kill himself. She needs to take care of herself too.
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it will trigger a feeling of unwantedness. I don't blame the indiivudal either.
maybe the OP should get someone less emotional and who wants more space and freedom.
Posted by lisabethur8Everyone is different though Lisa and has different ways of handling stuff. Some people need to share what is happening with them...maybe that is a healthier option? I don't see the OP being disrespectful to her man at all....she said she loves him.
and you are about the worse. an ONLINE nurse going to diagnose some suicider, O_O
here on dxp. via a girlfriend.
edit and all you can do is go tear me down on my relationship way of being together and taking responsibility for eachother.
I would never like the OP as a girlfriend, coming in here and revealing a most sensitivie thing like this, to strangers about suicide.
How would YOU like it if you were ever in this situation and your boyfriend or girlfriend told on you to a bunch of strangers a very sensitive subject?
you would NEVER trust her /him again.
Some women will stay with a man, even if their life depended on it...literally. Some women will allow men to verbally abuse them, call them names and spit venom at them (is that love)? They have little regard for their safety and their self esteem is shot to pieces. You hear the women that say *oh he doesn't mean it* or *when he isn't verbally or physically abusing me, he is very nice*
I can remember my Dad shouting at my mother, taking his rage out on her and after she passed, he tried it with me. I told him straight away *you don't do that to me, i am not mum*. You know what happened, we ended up having the most mutually respectful relationship until he passed. He knew he couldn't cross the line with me.
Nobody needs to stay with someone that repeatedly abuses them verbally or physically, and then refuses to work on this, because if you do, you are helping that person become the worse version of themselves and allowing yourself to be treated like rubbish
That can never end up well for anyone. Sometimes people need a push to get out of that cycle
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/suicide/in-depth/suicide/ART-20044707
Look for warning signs
You can't always tell when a loved one or friend is considering suicide. But here are some common signs:
•Talking about suicide — for example, making statements such as "I'm going to kill myself," "I wish I were dead" or "I wish I hadn't been born"
•Getting the means to take your own life, such as buying a gun or stockpiling pills
•Withdrawing from social contact and wanting to be left alone
•Having mood swings, such as being emotionally high one day and deeply discouraged the next
•Being preoccupied with death, dying or violence
•Feeling trapped or hopeless about a situation
•Increasing use of alcohol or drugs
•Changing normal routine, including eating or sleeping patterns
•Doing risky or self-destructive things, such as using drugs or driving recklessly
•Giving away belongings or getting affairs in order when there is no other logical explanation for doing this
•Saying goodbye to people as if they won't be seen again
•Developing personality changes or being severely anxious or agitated, particularly when experiencing some of the warning signs listed above
For immediate help
If someone has attempted suicide:
•Don't leave the person alone.
•Call 911 or your local emergency number right away. Or, if you think you can do so safely, take the person to the nearest hospital emergency room yourself.
Look for warning signs
You can't always tell when a loved one or friend is considering suicide. But here are some common signs:
•Talking about suicide — for example, making statements such as "I'm going to kill myself," "I wish I were dead" or "I wish I hadn't been born"
•Getting the means to take your own life, such as buying a gun or stockpiling pills
•Withdrawing from social contact and wanting to be left alone
•Having mood swings, such as being emotionally high one day and deeply discouraged the next
•Being preoccupied with death, dying or violence
•Feeling trapped or hopeless about a situation
•Increasing use of alcohol or drugs
•Changing normal routine, including eating or sleeping patterns
•Doing risky or self-destructive things, such as using drugs or driving recklessly
•Giving away belongings or getting affairs in order when there is no other logical explanation for doing this
•Saying goodbye to people as if they won't be seen again
•Developing personality changes or being severely anxious or agitated, particularly when experiencing some of the warning signs listed above
For immediate help
If someone has attempted suicide:
•Don't leave the person alone.
•Call 911 or your local emergency number right away. Or, if you think you can do so safely, take the person to the nearest hospital emergency room yourself.
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by lisabethur8Everyone is different though Lisa and has different ways of handling stuff. Some people need to share what is happening with them...maybe that is a healthier option? I don't see the OP being disrespectful to her man at all....she said she loves him.
and you are about the worse. an ONLINE nurse going to diagnose some suicider, O_O
here on dxp. via a girlfriend.
edit and all you can do is go tear me down on my relationship way of being together and taking responsibility for eachother.
I would never like the OP as a girlfriend, coming in here and revealing a most sensitivie thing like this, to strangers about suicide.
How would YOU like it if you were ever in this situation and your boyfriend or girlfriend told on you to a bunch of strangers a very sensitive subject?
you would NEVER trust her /him again.
Some women will stay with a man, even if their life depended on it...literally. Some women will allow men to verbally abuse them, call them names and spit venom at them (is that love)? They have little regard for their safety and their self esteem is shot to pieces. You hear the women that say *oh he doesn't mean it* or *when he isn't verbally or physically abusing me, he is very nice*
I can remember my Dad shouting at my mother, taking his rage out on her and after she passed, he tried it with me. I told him straight away *you don't do that to me, i am not mum*. You know what happened, we ended up having the most mutually respectful relationship until he passed. He knew he couldn't cross the line with me.
Nobody needs to stay with someone that repeatedly abuses them verbally or physically, and then refuses to work on this, because if you do, you are helping that person become the worse version of themselves and allowing yourself to be treated like rubbish
That can never end up well for anyone. Sometimes people need a push to get out of that cycleclick to expand
I don't recall her saying her boyfriend is abusive. if that's the case, then leave him be.
but for her wanting space and saying she loves him and he is suicidal...something does NOT add up.
Posted by MyStarsShine
He has a saturn-chiron opposition (father wound)?...feelings of rejection and saturn in the 7th can lead to isolation in relationships.
Would he be willing to face his issues and get help? Not easy or for the feint hearted but worth it if he can find the courage
Sorry for what you are both going through
*hugs*
I've had Saturn in scorpio and Saturn in Sagittarius individuals also think and talk of suicide to me.
Posted by I_am_youno that's not a good example, the man who killed his children because he killed his wife and went to prison....
Lisa your pov may be a little different because so far, your personal experience has never made you feel such a way before. That's a good thing but you can't put that burden on op without walking in her shoes.
Depression has many forms that can come with other negative thoughts and behaviors. The brain is altered. You remember the post about the husband killing his 4 children infront of his wife? She should have stayed away right?
Professional help is for the person with psychological issues, it is a separate issue from the relationship with op.
It's a sensitive situation and what you say can affect op in a negative way, pushing her to stay when it's unhealthy for her. Give her strength. Don't rip her apart.
that is NOT a good man. Why would this woman bring this man into her home, fornicate with him, expose her current children with him, and then make new ones? only to have him snap one day and kill again?
edit
a man who despises and kills women and children.
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You can guess too if you want. In my next comment l'll post her chart, just don't look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JTCMwdr
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hello world,
i have very depressive day.
again some guy ignored me.
i really dont know what i do wrong.
i study arts and architecture. i do a lot of things besides school.
i am friendly.
maybe too friendly?
i am posting my picture to let stra
first off I sencerily apologize if this has been done before. its unfortunate I don't remember if this project's been done before.
so what sign would you say is slow to anger? I would have to go with Gemini. and not because I'm one. I don't play favort
Sooo. This will be a dirt-throwing, mud-slinging thread but which signs are more likely be two-timing? Not exactly two-timing lying cheaters ,but say, they see absolutely no problem in seeing two people at once.
Are you a deep sleeper or a light sleeper? Also please state your sun sign.
Okay so.
I have taken an interest in Astrology and discovered this site only recently and if you guys do not mind, I'd like for you to tell me what you think all my astrological details say about my personality.
(ik environmental factors matter as wel
this girl is amazing! my reading is always spot on i wanted to share everyone else's horoscope
Taurus
https://youtu.be/W2Am9Ym69VA
Gemini
https://youtu.be/ob36qowGtKU
Cancer
https://youtu.be/ieT_dx7NQuw
Leo
https://youtu.be/EbsfGtZwdM4
who can tell us more about it??
https://postimg.org/image/pjsfxm34h/
P.S HEYA!!
I wonder how this bastard chart looks, and I hate the fact that he came off as "nonchalant."
http://www.whenlovewasreal.com/wife-confronts-husband-court-murdered-children/
Could you say some?
I don't want to get into detail.