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@woodenmeow... Sorry I have dyslexia... And dyscalcula... And any dys-a you can think of.

I reread your posts. In the first you said that you wanted him to open up and it was like a constant uphill with you and to boot you wanted to know how long it took to get comfortable. Then you said you guys live 7 mins apart and you haven't seen each other in 3 1/2 weeks.

If I'm not mistaken you've already posted about him and I recall you stating the same situation. So I am assuming you might have already brought it up with him and nothing has changed. If anything they have gone the opposite direction you intended. Tell me please if I'm wrong.

If you haven't told him then it is very important that you do. There is no point in being unhappy in a relationship especially if he doesn't know about it.

If you have then honestly I don't know what to tell you. I mean I do but it's obvious you won't let him go and even if you keep pushing to get what you want (hey pushers can be indirect and passive aggressive too they all aren't out spoken). You say you aren't pushing but if that were the case you wouldn't be on here trying to find a way to get what you want. If you've already communicated to him what you wanted and he's still not delivering honey you ain't gonna get it.

So decide on what I've already mention before. Leave or stay in the situation you are now that probably won't change anytime soon. And even if you somehow manipulate it out of him he will end up resenting you in the long run. I know I've been on his end before when people slyly get you to do what you never really wanted to do in the first place.
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Posted by xtina
Yeah, I don't think she will... And it's nothing wrong with that sometimes people can't help who they love.

There is a reason this world is beautiful is because unpredictable and imperfect.

If she loves him and wants to be with him no matter how he treats her it's her life and she's allowed to live it the way she wants.



Oh, bullshit.

This guy is just taking her for granted.

Only an idiot, asshole or some other variation of both would refrain from spending time with a great girl on the weekends like Meow.

7 mins away, and not seeing her in nearly 4 weeks?

Really?

And you people think this is acceptable behavior?

Get over yourselves.

Meow, get out there with your girlfriends this weekend and get some phone numbers from other guys. Go out on dates and get your groove back.

You are clearly stuck in an emotional swamp with this guy, and no one in their right mind wants to be stuck in a swamp.
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How can you help a cancer male that is depressed and wants to find love, but makes all his decisions based on his past failed relationships?

I have a friend that has had three longterm relationships and was married in the last one for three years before breaking up and has five kids within all three relationsips. He always says that he just wants to be loved and held. He was dating a really nice lady and things were going great. She accused him of seeing other woman and it was because he was on the dating site Tagged. They ended up breaking up because of that because he said he was not doing anything. I told him he should discuss it with her and he said no he does not like being accused and if she acussed him of something he was not doing then he does not need to be with her. I just think he is ridiculous for that. He is very lonely and spends a lot of time home and on the computer. His mom passed away two years ago so he said he does not have anyone to hold him and take care of him. I wish I could help him. He is a really nice guy but I feel like he is his own enemy. Please let me know how I can help him as a friend. Thank you so much.
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Yeah, I don't think she will... And it's nothing wrong with that sometimes people can't help who they love.

There is a reason this world is beautiful is because unpredictable and imperfect.

If she loves him and wants to be with him no matter how he treats her it's her life and she's allowed to live it the way she wants.



Oh, bullshit.

This guy is just taking her for granted.

Only an idiot, asshole or some other variation of both would refrain from spending time with a great girl on the weekends like Meow.

7 mins away, and not seeing her in nearly 4 weeks?

Really?

And you people think this is acceptable behavior?

Get over yourselves.

Meow, get out there with your girlfriends this weekend and get some phone numbers from other guys. Go out on dates and get your groove back.

You are clearly stuck in an emotional swamp with this guy, and no one in their right mind wants to be stuck in a swamp.
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You're missing the point.

OF COURSE THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR.

But you waving the truth in front of her is not going to magically change the way she feels about him nor will it make the decision for her.

If that were the case I think ALL of the relationship problems will be solved in a heartbeat... but obviously it doesn't.

It's nice to think of only one side of the situation when in reality there is always more.
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Posted by Sweets681
How can you help a cancer male that is depressed and wants to find love, but makes all his decisions based on his past failed relationships?

I have a friend that has had three longterm relationships and was married in the last one for three years before breaking up and has five kids within all three relationsips. He always says that he just wants to be loved and held. He was dating a really nice lady and things were going great. She accused him of seeing other woman and it was because he was on the dating site Tagged. They ended up breaking up because of that because he said he was not doing anything. I told him he should discuss it with her and he said no he does not like being accused and if she acussed him of something he was not doing then he does not need to be with her. I just think he is ridiculous for that. He is very lonely and spends a lot of time home and on the computer. His mom passed away two years ago so he said he does not have anyone to hold him and take care of him. I wish I could help him. He is a really nice guy but I feel like he is his own enemy. Please let me know how I can help him as a friend. Thank you so much.



You can't make decisions for him. And you can only help those that want to help themselves.

You are doing the best you can right now and that is being there for him when he needs you. But other than that he will have to figure that out on his own.

You're a good person with a good heart. The world needs more people like you.
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@scorpfish... I'm basing my advice off the fact that this is her second posting about this within a least a months time span and trust me that same advice was given in the last post to. Obviously she's attached and obviously since the last post she has not left and stayed. Does it mean she won't let go I don't know, does it mean she will. I don't know. I'm taking all factors into account here not just giving some generic answer without knowing all the details.


This is not about this guys behavior, it's about her strong attachment to him. And sometimes, especially for women, is a lot harder to get over than grabbing some drinks with some chickens and pretending you're okay with it.

Seen this before and they always go back based on that stupid advice of "oh just get over him"... not everybody works the same way, at least I'm attempting to understand how she thinks. and work.

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Thank you for the insight. Not really sure what I will do. Yes, this has been on-going for months. I thought it would get better and all this cancer man tells me is "What is the rush" No rush, but things have not moved forward in any way.
Also, I am not in love with this Cancer man either. I had some hopefullness for a while based on his words/broken promises. He throws me crumbs from time to time by spending a little time with me.
But mainly he likes going out of town to California to go fishing on his bass boat.
At this point it is on him. I am done trying.
I have done all the things they say to make a cancer man comfortable. Tried to make plans with him, showed interest, contacted him from time to time just to check on him.
One min he tells me we are in a slow moving relationship and then I don't see him for 3 1/2 weeks.
That is not normal. Astrological sign or not.
I have bascaily thrown my hands in the air.
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Well if you done all you can for this situation, then don't worry about it. It's not your fault it's not working. He probably isn't the guy for you. If it was, you would be happy & nothing questioning his motives. Right now think about your happiness. That should point you in the rightful direction ok 🙂. Dang this thread has 300 something replys LOL. As long as it helpful, im kool
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Posted by woodenmeow
Thank you for the insight. Not really sure what I will do. Yes, this has been on-going for months. I thought it would get better and all this cancer man tells me is "What is the rush" No rush, but things have not moved forward in any way.
Also, I am not in love with this Cancer man either. I had some hopefullness for a while based on his words/broken promises. He throws me crumbs from time to time by spending a little time with me.
But mainly he likes going out of town to California to go fishing on his bass boat.
At this point it is on him. I am done trying.
I have done all the things they say to make a cancer man comfortable. Tried to make plans with him, showed interest, contacted him from time to time just to check on him.
One min he tells me we are in a slow moving relationship and then I don't see him for 3 1/2 weeks.
That is not normal. Astrological sign or not.
I have bascaily thrown my hands in the air.



Honestly, don't read into these astrology based forums if they are giving you advice like that^^^

No person could love you if you're bending over backwards to get them to love you. Yes, Cancer men are known to have sensitive souls but they're still men. Men don't respect doormats. Don't listen to those advice where they tell you do everything for him. Just do you and when it feels right is when you give, but you shouldn't be jumping through hoops.
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Posted by 2BlackIndian3
Well if you done all you can for this situation, then don't worry about it. It's not your fault it's not working. He probably isn't the guy for you. If it was, you would be happy & nothing questioning his motives. Right now think about your happiness. That should point you in the rightful direction ok 🙂. Dang this thread has 300 something replys LOL. As long as it helpful, im kool



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Posted by miha
woodenmeow, wait a minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Also, I am not in love with this Cancer man either. I had some hopefullness for a while based on his words/broken promises."

do you really think that men are some stupid babies who don't get vibes—————?

you clearly say you are not in love with him....but you expect him to treat you as if it were a relationship based on love...no, honey...you're giving crumbles...he's doing the same...for different purposes...life is always fair, baby...

you're trading yourself...
I AM SO REVOLTED NOW....



LOL, life is definitely NOT fair. You think it's fair that while fat cats stuff their faces with 1,000 caviar while there are children starving in the world?? Children who were born into poverty and hunger, from no choice of their own? No, life is definitely not fair.

Don't act like you've never gone against any of your beliefs for someone you cared deeply for. She may not be "in love" with him but it sure is obvious she has deep feelings. I don't see how she can be trading herself? Trading what for what? And if she's giving crumbs and he is too what is so "wrong" with that? Sorry your post is very unclear and doesn't really make sense, at least to me.
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Miha-

I am not so sure why you are revolted?
From the beginning of this relationship with the cancer man, I have been accomodating, honest. But I feel like I have been pushing him to want more than he clearly does. In 6 months we have been on one "Offical date". I went into dating him with hopefullness, but after 6 months of me and him having a half-assed relcationship. What am I supposed to do. I ask him to spend time, he says maybe. I have givin him wayyyy more than just crumbs but I have gotten crumbs in return.
I tell him I miss him, and ask to spend more time. How many more time should I get blown off by this guy.?
Crumbs...I gave a full course meal and got crumbs. That is why he is getting crumbs too.
As a women I shouldn't have to beg this man to spend time with me or take me on dates.
Trust me, I have asked him to go out on dates too. And I get responses like Maybe.
No I am not in love with him. He is so closed off, he won't let me know him enough for that to happen.
Xtina is correct, yes I do have feelings for him. I am not a robot.
I have been very sweet to this Cancer guy. He hasn't not returned the feelings. No girl with any self respect would keep asking any guy to keep spending time with her. And then get blown off.
He has said we are in a slow moving relationship.. and then does nothing too. Where is his accountablity it this..?

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woodenmeow, wait a minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Also, I am not in love with this Cancer man either. I had some hopefullness for a while based on his words/broken promises."

do you really think that men are some stupid babies who don't get vibes—————?

you clearly say you are not in love with him....but you expect him to treat you as if it were a relationship based on love...no, honey...you're giving crumbles...he's doing the same...for different purposes...life is always fair, baby...

you're trading yourself...
I AM SO REVOLTED NOW....



LOL, life is definitely NOT fair. You think it's fair that while fat cats stuff their faces with 1,000 caviar while there are children starving in the world?? Children who were born into poverty and hunger, from no choice of their own? No, life is definitely not fair.

Don't act like you've never gone against any of your beliefs for someone you cared deeply for. She may not be "in love" with him but it sure is obvious she has deep feelings. I don't see how she can be trading herself? Trading what for what? And if she's giving crumbs and he is too what is so "wrong" with that? Sorry your post is very unclear and doesn't really make sense, at least to me.
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if it is unclear, then maybe you should read her post again.

no. i have never gone against my beliefs for sb i cared deeply for, i have done that for somebody i LOVED.

you say...."And if she's giving crumbs and he is too what is so "wrong" with that?"...apparently there's a lot "wrong" with that since SHE is not comfortable with the whole situation...

come on....what she wrote is sth like "i don't love him, but he promised me this and that and i thought i would enjoy what he's gonna to provide..so...i don't love him, but i'll stay to get what he's promising to me"

and yes, life is always fair...it's called KARMA. IN THE END WE DO GET WHAT WE DESERVE. and don't pretend you don't understand...

and don't twist my words by making use of any argument at hand.
don't you think it's too much to equate a woman's disappointment in a worldly relationship with the unfortunate lives of some children——— i didn't do that... you did....r
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aww shit


heres what I posted:

@miha

No. I'm not twisting your words you said clearly "life is ALWAYS fair"... maybe you don't understand what that word means. It means at all times and ALL occasions. Maybe you should choose your words better. I don't know if I believe in karma. But I do know the world is unfair. Just because you believe in karma doesn't make it a fact or true.

Its her life, her decisions, you can judge all you want but at the end of the day she will do what she's going to do.

What's the point of putting her down? Does it make you feel superior or better in some way? Like you're better than her? Because you're not.
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Posted by woodenmeow
Miha-

I am not so sure why you are revolted?
From the beginning of this relationship with the cancer man, I have been accomodating, honest. But I feel like I have been pushing him to want more than he clearly does. In 6 months we have been on one "Offical date". I went into dating him with hopefullness, but after 6 months of me and him having a half-assed relcationship. What am I supposed to do. I ask him to spend time, he says maybe. I have givin him wayyyy more than just crumbs but I have gotten crumbs in return.
I tell him I miss him, and ask to spend more time. How many more time should I get blown off by this guy.?
Crumbs...I gave a full course meal and got crumbs. That is why he is getting crumbs too.
As a women I shouldn't have to beg this man to spend time with me or take me on dates.
Trust me, I have asked him to go out on dates too. And I get responses like Maybe.
No I am not in love with him. He is so closed off, he won't let me know him enough for that to happen.
Xtina is correct, yes I do have feelings for him. I am not a robot.
I have been very sweet to this Cancer guy. He hasn't not returned the feelings. No girl with any self respect would keep asking any guy to keep spending time with her. And then get blown off.
He has said we are in a slow moving relationship.. and then does nothing too. Where is his accountablity it this..?




but now...just for you...why do you keep going? are you sure it is because you have feelings for him or just because it's in our nature to want what we can't have?

maybe you should step a little back, pay more attention to your own life, dreams, desires, etc. make them real and maybe he'll want to step out.

from my experience with my cancer guy, they don't need to be accommodated, they just need not to be criticised.

don't ask him to spend time with you. stop that, and start spending time with yourself...if he follows or not...this is his problem, not yours...

ok ok...the truth is it is late here and i am tired...so i'll be the frank aquarius i am...guys...you screwed it up... you say:"No I am not in love with him. He is so closed off, he won't let me know him enough for that
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LOL, I thought that was what I was doing



no...you were comforting her.

she is here to see what a whole community thinks about her story, so that she sorts out her thoughts and make her OWN decision. that's why she is interested in opposing opinions

i doubt she came here for 20 people to comfort her in the same way...

and i would really apreciate if you stopped this debate here because you don't know me and i don't know you and we are saying things which might be far from the truth...and it is not even the point of this thread.

thank you
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LOL, I don't think you even know what the point of this thread was... which by the way is not about woodenmeow or her relationship.

I think I'm allowed to comfort her. And comforting her does not mean I'm not allowing her to make her own decisions. Those two statements have no connection. I think if you've read my post clearly you'll see that I was giving her advice not judging her or not letting her make her own decisions
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Posted by silentkiller
Yeaaaaaah, I wanna know too!!!! Didn't see this thread from that angle canceronthecusp, but do tell.

It seems to me, the females and males are very different, so I don't compare the ones I do know, and I think, I only know one cancer guy.



Specific questions.
Cancer men vary. I have three categories I mentally put them in myself (Player, Prima Donna, and Mature (Evolved)).


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Posted by Sweets681
How can you help a cancer male that is depressed and wants to find love, but makes all his decisions based on his past failed relationships?

I have a friend that has had three longterm relationships and was married in the last one for three years before breaking up and has five kids within all three relationsips. He always says that he just wants to be loved and held. He was dating a really nice lady and things were going great. She accused him of seeing other woman and it was because he was on the dating site Tagged. They ended up breaking up because of that because he said he was not doing anything. I told him he should discuss it with her and he said no he does not like being accused and if she acussed him of something he was not doing then he does not need to be with her. I just think he is ridiculous for that. He is very lonely and spends a lot of time home and on the computer. His mom passed away two years ago so he said he does not have anyone to hold him and take care of him. I wish I could help him. He is a really nice guy but I feel like he is his own enemy. Please let me know how I can help him as a friend. Thank you so much.



You can't make decisions for him. And you can only help those that want to help themselves.

You are doing the best you can right now and that is being there for him when he needs you. But other than that he will have to figure that out on his own.

You're a good person with a good heart. The world needs more people like you.
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I feel so bad for him, but you might be right. Awww Xtina thanks for your kind words.
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@rudescorpscorp01 I'm Cancer, & i can't say that there's anything i don't like about Scorpio Women i met 2 that didn't work out & i know 2 now that are really good friends. I actually like the possessive trait y'all have. It can make a Crab feel really secure. The only thing i will say is, be mindful of your Cancers feelings. It's how you say things that matter. I love Scorpio Women because they're loyal, strong, affectionate, & 100% supportive. I'm talking about the mature ones. Be good to a Crab, we'll make sure you are happy 🙂. guaranteed!
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Posted by Scruffy
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And one more...

Why is it that when you tell someone there are over a billion stars in the universe, they believe you, but tell them there is 'wet paint' somewhere, they have to touch it to be sure?



For one, they can't exactly reach out and touch the stars. So they just pretend to believe you.
As for wet paint, its not a matter of belief, nobody can resist touching wet paint.
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Posted by rudescorpscorp01
Why drawn to Scorpio women? And what is the trait we possess that is most difficult to deal with?



That I can't answer.
Never been "drawn" to one. I have some Scorp lady friends but strictly on that basis.
I think the trait I've had dealing with is a slight tendency towards vengeance, although there's usually a good reason someone has earned it.
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Posted by Damnata
Do you people stalk? Not in the bushes..more like researching the shit out of that person so you can come up with topics to discuss etc..basically have an idea about who they are?

Is it just my Venus in Cancer?



I don't know about researching the shit out of someone, but I do like to be a little familiar with whom I'm interested in.
Its not common for me to go rushing in when it comes to a romantic interest.
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Posted by aquavita
ATTENTION: PLEASE answer this question it is asked by silent killer and aquavita interefered so it got lost in the thread.

( silentkiller) : Question: - for the time of being in a relationsip with a cancer, NOT AFTER THE BREAK UP

Granted, I wasn't in an official relationship, so maybe I can't even ask this question, bu whatever:

I always felt like -the entire time - and also after trying to be friends for a brief while - that cancer would never be the same place as I was emotionally. I would like him, he would have doubts. I would fall in love with him, he would like me. And the same feeling, when we tryed to be friends. Like I am/was always one step ahead. Maybe that's just me, but wondering if this is just the way, a cancer moves? Always one step behind to feel secure?
I know the answer seems obvious: well my cancer wasn't that intersted in me then. And I partially think this sometimes, but what doesn't make sense in this way of thinking, is when cancer comes back, doesn't leave, said that we were working TOWARDS something..
STRAAAAAAAAAAANGE!!




Cancers are slow movers.
Nothing wrong about getting invested in the relationship a little faster than him, but your frustration is coming from an expectation you set that he would reciprocate at the same level.
It sounds like he was coming around, but I suspect he might have been getting pressure from you to move faster.
That's usually going to get a Cancer to back off if they're not ready.
I take it he's still in the picture?