@BoomShakalakaBoom
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*broken up with the Cancerian*
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Posted by Andalusia
Sounds like the Cancer lady wasn't all that invested in you either. Which is why you both talked and were able to remain "friends". Because Your actions hurt her feelings - not her heart. If the latter had been involved, this would be a completely different thread. Believe me.
She was very invested because she couldnt stop crying the whole time while we were talking today. And that is just one example of the many I could give you.
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?? This sounds a bit like ego stroking, tbh... But that point aside - tears do not automatically = investment. Now I'm a little confused.
Why so adament about how much she likes/liked you? Do/did you WANT her to be completely invested in you? Does having that belief validate the relationship and/or experience for you? Is it not enough that YOU felt something, that YOU learned something via this Cancer? Why is it so important to you whether SHE is coming from the same place...?
... I'm a Virgo, and I think P Angel is right. We are emotionally autistic.
Speak for yourself
Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by scorchedearth
you go fuck yourself you little capricorn twat. i've already told you to not talk to me. leave me the fuck alone or i will report you for harassment. i'm only telling you once.
lol cappies and virgos ..jesus christ the lot of them should burn in morder.
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Yea we were forged for immortality.
Not sure what Andalusia means by me being adamant about how much she liked me. Im saying exactly what the Cancerian told me. Thats good enough for me 🙂
I'm going through a similar ordeal( no replacing) but I've learned; there are relationships that go beyond the romantic, it's a silent understanding between to people, a higher connection, it's beyond ego, it's beyond anything that we are taught to feel for another person; and how to approach it.
We are use to placing labels on a relationship; especially if you have a deep connection(push and pull) for a person. We feel like we must poses this person and so on. I'm not talking about platonic relationships , not that kind of connection.
You know it when you feel it; and until then, many will question.
So I understand. My take is; like you said it could have been done differently. Not giving an excuse for the actions, but I understand the current dynamics.
anyways as I said before..time to sleep, ta taaaaaaaa 🙂
Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by Tomberjack
Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by scorchedearth
you go fuck yourself you little capricorn twat. i've already told you to not talk to me. leave me the fuck alone or i will report you for harassment. i'm only telling you once.
lol cappies and virgos ..jesus christ the lot of them should burn in morder.
Yea we were forged for immortality.
I give Caps their due though, they can be loyal, and i think are more concrete then Virgos.
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Lol *Claps*.
G'night Shaka. Hopefully you found some snack food for thought within this thread. Whether or not it seems like bullshit now; different perspectives are always good for mulling over and chewing on.. Even if you ultimately decide not to digest them 🙂
Posted by CluelessCancer
Sagi you give the Virgo too much benefit of the doubt, im sticking to what i know, this guy is doing what's comfortable for him, and keeping her as a safety net.
If he is; Karma will definitely catch up with him. My experience is much different; because I choose not to drop one for the other. I was already going through a tiff(when I was in my relationship at the time) and was already going through my break up. With in that period I told the other guy that I met while I was going through my break up that friendship was all I could give. I don't jump from one relationship to another. The healing process is very important and is needed, and should be done by all. He and I are still friends and have come to an understanding that what we feel for each other although very strong, is meant for the purpose of friendship. I truly believe that, accept and I'm at peace with it.
I'm too afraid of reaping bad karma for myself and I don't do on to others what I don't want done on to me. That's me.
He is different; I understand what he might be going through internally; and maybe not. Either way, if something happens, he shouldn't ask himself why; our actions whether sooner or later catch up with us and have consequences, even when it comes to matters of the heart.
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoomif the circumstances that forced us to break up no longer stand in the way in the future, for now though Im happy with this outcome 🙂
Someone going to work in another country is a circumstance.
Someone getting sick is a circumstance.
What happened with you two isn't.
i'll try not to be biased although my close Virgo guy friend sometimes nauseates me with his recounting of his pursuits of women, mainly because they really only serve to inflate his already huge ego. we've gotten in a couple spats because i make it my mission to take his ego down a notch every time, which in my eyes is a favor to him because who likes an arrogant bastard? but in any case...
from what i read, you place a lot of emphasis on how much this cancer feels for you...i.e. "the depth" of her feelings, which makes me think how much this serves more as a cushion for your ego, rather than empathy for her (although i don't doubt that you ALSO feel empathetic for her on some level). in that sense, your ego feels validated in that you are able to move and effect a person so much, to even extend an olive branch of friendship despite you very well knowing how "shady" (for lack of a better word, but we'll get into that later) you acted with her. even more so, i think your interpretation of this final interaction with the cancer justifies the end with her and the beginning with the taurus... as if one is giving you blessings to be with the other.. but you see this is also very egocentric. so even with all these comments against your character, the way you are interpreting everything with one supporting the other, you will not be swayed otherwise.... your mind won't allow it once it has made its decision... an infrastructure to the survival of the fittest (more so emotionally in this case), so it seems.
as to whether your forming a connection with the taurus while non-casually being involved with the cancer, i wouldn't say that it is wrong per se (but my definition of wrong is another topic of discussion entirely). there is definitely nothing "wrong" with talking to people while in a relationship, but the intent was there from the beginning with the taurus while the cancer was there for you as crutch. so again i would definitely tie it back to your ego, which by definition is "selfish". cease to know the self, and you'll truly know YOURSELF.
cheers fellow virgo
See, if Shaka only described this connection with Taurus as the best in his life, maybe we'd understand what he's getting at.
But before that there was Sag and the amazing "connection" and then the Cancer and again the amazing "connection".
The only time I really think he was in love and not in lust was with his Cap chick.
IMO, people use the word "connection" in lieu of lube, or when they are out it.
I think Boom here doesnt understand that even though he thought he had her in the palm of his hand he didnt and also didnt hook her like he thought he had and now is scratching his head and blaming her for his cheating?
Ah this is seen a mile off and she knew about him even before he realised just as well the girl is a 'nice one' and 'caring' enough to see and understand this about him because there would be hell to pay if she werent so 'caring'
Its just a damn shame Boom dun see this and neither does anyone else, makes me laugh really.
Actually Boom are you joking here or what?
Also I am wondering where did the men go?
Around seems like they are all little boys still holding onto mama's apron or purse strings.
God know wonder girl go out with guys who are much older only coz they themselves are actual men and not boys.
You drinking tonight?
This post is an example of boys playing in the backyard of mamas house where they are first discovering the other sex (if they are straight) and then realise girls hurt and sadly enough doesnt understand that girls grow up and hurt guys just by playing him as much as he plays them. I thought I learnt you sometink MR!
Where are all the men?
Where have they gone?
Dying breed I think
Bastards...
Cant win either way
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
If it werent for Romance, beautiful music wouldnt exist, beautiful and inspired art wouldnt exist. Romance is the motor of love.
This is as far as I've read so far and THIS....I just have to comment on what utter and complete bull fucking SHIT that is! OMFG!! I need a bigger font for OMFG!!! As an artist, writer and in general mega uber creative type I can say with complete certainty that Romance is NOT the motor of love nor is it the creator of beautiful music, art, etc. Romance is not even an emotion and most art, music and poetry is crafted from raw emotion. BARF, GAG, PUKE...your gross statement made me feel like I just swallowed a Thomas Kincade painting.
The Everything Cancer has spoken 😛
Damnata, I couldn't even finish reading the last 6 pages, but that one statement about Romance....wow, that's one of those bullshit lines pretentious shits who know nothing say when they're still in college, be they art major or philosophy major, etc.
Just. Like. This.
hehehe, CC, as an artist Thomas Kincade's work is just gross to me. I'm not saying he didn't know how to paint, just that his style and presentation usually make me want to gouge my eyes out, or stick an ice pick up my nose and scramble my frontal lobes.
googles Thomas Kincade..
destroys all disney tapes she has around the house
Oh no Clueless! You're a water gal, we like deep art and his stuff is just sugar water. Lets see....for me to be attracted to a piece of art it has to MOVE me and make me FEEL. Here's some great feeling art pieces:
Christina's World by Wyeth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina% 27s_World
A lot of works by Waterhouse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_William_Waterhouse
Joey Gonzalez's abstract art (one of the few who's abstracts I love. He's a friend, too).
http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/joey-gonzalez.html?tab=artworkgalleries&artworkgalleryid=314982
Dennis Peterson's hyperrealism paintings of homeless in NYC
Posted by Damnata
googles Thomas Kincade..destroys all disney tapes she has around the house
Keep the Disney! That stuff is classic 😄
^you're not into shaving eyebrows are you?
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Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
If it werent for Romance, beautiful music wouldnt exist, beautiful and inspired art wouldnt exist. Romance is the motor of love.
This is as far as I've read so far and THIS....I just have to comment on what utter and complete bull fucking SHIT that is! OMFG!! I need a bigger font for OMFG!!! As an artist, writer and in general mega uber creative type I can say with complete certainty that Romance is NOT the motor of love nor is it the creator of beautiful music, art, etc. Romance is not even an emotion and most art, music and poetry is crafted from raw emotion. BARF, GAG, PUKE...your gross statement made me feel like I just swallowed a Thomas Kincade painting.
Really? You feel that strongly towards his comment.
Do you truely believe that romance cannot inspire beautiful art and music?
Romance can be a feeling, when I'm feeling romantic I can be inspired to make emotional gestures in various forms to my partner.
Flowers, candles, a poem expressing my feelings for her....isn't that type of romance contributing to love, isn't it just another part of loves expression?
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Yes, I do feel that strongly about that statement. First off, beautiful music, art, etc would still exist without romance. Secondly, romantic gestures can contribute to a loving relationship but they do not create love nor does love end without it. Thirdly, any well meaning person can behave romantically just as easily as any liar, therefore, romance is shouldn't be the measure of love.
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Posted by MoonArtist
hehehe, CC, as an artist Thomas Kincade's work is just gross to me. I'm not saying he didn't know how to paint, just that his style and presentation usually make me want to gouge my eyes out, or stick an ice pick up my nose and scramble my frontal lobes.
Yes well, that's fine. Art is subjective. Just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder (cliche, but appropriate)
Maybe you are just expressing a little 'artistic snobbery'......hmmm
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Of course I'm being an artistic snob. All the artists I know, which is a lot, feel the same way about Kincade. Artistic snobbery is pretty rampant in the art world. I'm also a food snob, product snob, and clothing snob. I am not a people snob.
Posted by CluelessCancer
My favorite artist is Frida Kahlo am i good?
Yes!! You picked a winner! I think artists who do lots of self portraits show a very interesting inner life and view through their work.
I love Rene Magritte for painting and Bernini for sculputing.
Psychoanalyze me! 😄
Posted by xMoonMan
Posted by MoonArtist
Yes, I do feel that strongly about that statement. First off, beautiful music, art, etc would still exist without romance. Secondly, romantic gestures can contribute to a loving relationship but they do not create love nor does love end without it. Thirdly, any well meaning person can behave romantically just as easily as any liar, therefore, romance is shouldn't be the measure of love.
How can you be so sure that beautiful music and art would still exist without romance? Romance is just part of loves expression, I don't think anyone is saying romance should be "a measure of love".Posted by MoonArtist
Thirdly, any well meaning person can behave romantically just as easily as any liar, ,,,
I don't understand your correlation between being romantic and being a liar. These two concepts surely would have to be mutually exclusive?
Maybe a person could pretend to be romantic for selfish motivation but then, that's not truely being romantic is it...it's just being a liar.
We are not talking about that, we are talking about romance and love, not liars.
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There is no romance in the beauty of nature and how it inspires us, nor is there any romance in a mother's love for her children or sibling love or how one feels while doing something exciting. There is also no romance in the anguish of loss, either from an ended relationship, death, leaving a mother land, etc. All of these things can and have inspired beautiful art and music as well as literature.
The correlation between being romantic and a liar is that an honest person can do romantic things and so can a liar who is manipulating someone. ROMANCE does not make love. It can awaken desire, it can be a muse but it cannot create love. LOVE can create romance, but not the other way.
Art/music certaintly would still exist though be bland in some peoples eyes or feelings or whatever
Romance is what inspires the art/music to be beautiful in other peoples eyes feelings or whatever
Now it could be that bland be beautiful to you and to others the Romantic be beautiful.
Romance is what inspires people to get in touch with the beauty of life even though life isnt beautiful and its a whole different feeling of what art/music means as opposed to to nonromance art/music.
I am going off the top of my head and have no basis for my thoughts other than I feel that this is what is like whether it is actually like that or was like that i dont know.
Posted by Damnata
I love Rene Magritte for painting and Bernini for sculputing.Psychoanalyze me! 😄
OOO LA LA!! Now we're talking art! I'm going to have artgasms before we've exhausted this thread. lol
Lets see...what's interesting is that Magritte's art is very surreal and has an austere atmosphere to it while also being very heavy in symbolism, whereas Bernini's work is very realistic (especially for his time), voluptuous and dramatic. VERY different style s here! I think the hidden depth is what gets you with both. Neither is just for looks. Both have something solid to dig into. You like that puzzle, that figuring out, that twisted bit of angst to uncover.
I think it depends on how you view it, MoonArtist
Depends on the person really
Also i dont understand what yo are saying when you say there is no romance in the beauty of nature?
I love nature and think its very romantic to be in nature and surround myself within it this would inspire me to beautiful art/music if i were so inclined.
Depends on how a person is romantically inspired to create beautiful art/music
How can there be romance in nature unless you're lighting candles and trying to seduce someone while in the middle of it? I love nature, too, but I don't feel romantic towards it. Inspired, in awe, excited, energized, calmed and soothed, yes, but not romantic.
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Damnata
I love Rene Magritte for painting and Bernini for sculputing.Psychoanalyze me! 😄
OOO LA LA!! Now we're talking art! I'm going to have artgasms before we've exhausted this thread. lol
Lets see...what's interesting is that Magritte's art is very surreal and has an austere atmosphere to it while also being very heavy in symbolism, whereas Bernini's work is very realistic (especially for his time), voluptuous and dramatic. VERY different style s here! I think the hidden depth is what gets you with both. Neither is just for looks. Both have something solid to dig into. You like that puzzle, that figuring out, that twisted bit of angst to uncover.
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Benini's art shook me to my core when I visited Galleria Borghese in Rome.
Speechless. Raw, infinite beauty
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Posted by CluelessCancer
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Posted by theHitchHiker
Posted by CluelessCancer
Why are you dealing with the Cancerian, don't you have a Taurus? Let's not complicate things. What does this Taurus think of your new found friendship with your X Cancer?
God, I'm dying to hear the answer to this.
I already answered that, go back and read it
Remind us, what will your Taurus think of your new friendship with your X Cancer?
Im sure she will be ok with it, as Im ok with her being friends with the guy she had to break up with for me 🙂
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The whole story makes sense now... it was Karma. She broke a guy's heart for another, and time came back to break her heart to have her feel the same way of how she broke up with guy for Boom. This has nothing to do with Boom... It is spiritual growth for all three of them, not just one single person.. 😢 I can say it's sad and happy ending to this story...
Posted by Damnata
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Damnata
I love Rene Magritte for painting and Bernini for sculputing.Psychoanalyze me! 😄
OOO LA LA!! Now we're talking art! I'm going to have artgasms before we've exhausted this thread. lol
Lets see...what's interesting is that Magritte's art is very surreal and has an austere atmosphere to it while also being very heavy in symbolism, whereas Bernini's work is very realistic (especially for his time), voluptuous and dramatic. VERY different style s here! I think the hidden depth is what gets you with both. Neither is just for looks. Both have something solid to dig into. You like that puzzle, that figuring out, that twisted bit of angst to uncover.
Benini's art shook me to my core when I visited Galleria Borghese in Rome.
Speechless. Raw, infinite beauty
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Lucky! That's one of the places I really need to go in this life.
I spent a whole day there STARING at everything, tears running down my face. Each room had medieval baroc music in the background, a lot of mandolins...I bought a dvd.
I also bought an audio guide because I wanted to understand each and every statue.
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Posted by MoonArtist
The correlation between being romantic and a liar is that an honest person can do romantic things and so can a liar who is manipulating someone. ROMANCE does not make love. It can awaken desire, it can be a muse but it cannot create love. LOVE can create romance, but not the other way
I think we might get stuck in semantics here, MoonArtist
You are trying to establish some idea that lying and manipulating while pretending to be romantic justifies your idea that romance cannot create love or something, I don't know.
You are either being romantic or being a liar, you can pretend to be romantic to manipulate but this is not being romantic, romance, by its very nature comes from the heart. Romance is a feeling, a gesture of love, inspiration of ideas from the heart.
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Ok, you have a good point there. Still, I don't think romance can create love. Love needs to be a bit deeper than that.
Posted by Damnata
I spent a whole day there STARING at everything, tears running down my face. Each room had medieval baroc music in the background, a lot of mandolins...I bought a dvd.I also bought an audio guide because I wanted to understand each and every statue.
Security would have had to drag me out at closing time lol
^That's exactly what happened! I had people chase me from one room to the other...pissed off italians.
Moon you're an artist and you married a TAURUS?
Their only interest in art began and ended with salvador dali LOL
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Posted by CluelessCancer
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Posted by CluelessCancer
How many of us have felt intense attraction to men outside our relationships-im sure it happens right-do we just up and leave.
Boom you never said how you interacted with the Taurus since you're adamant you didn't emotionally cheat...well—
I talked to the Taurus because we have lots of friends in common and because we happened to attend some events where we both were invited.
There's more. Do tell. You said you convinced her to leave her MAN..was this before or after you dumped the CANCER?
Please do tell us about these interactions and what was discussed.
I told her that I had chosen for her after I had broken up with the Cancerian, the Taurus then took some time to decide what she wanted, after a couple of days we met and she told me she had chosen me and had dumped the other guy.
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Oh my, this is creating another cycle. :/
Wishing you the best Boom.
Music that has nothing to do with Romance.
Posted by Damnata
^That's exactly what happened! I had people chase me from one room to the other...pissed off italians.Moon you're an artist and you married a TAURUS?
Their only interest in art began and ended with salvador dali LOL
Why did the Italians get pissed?
I know! WTH, right? Yeah, the creativity sort of went on hold, at least the art did. I still messed with photography and was making and selling my own line of bath and body products but didn't draw for YEARS while married. It wasn't until I had kids that I got back into art.
Cuz I wasn't leaving already. 🙂) They tried whistling, they tried closing the doors behind me til they started yelling at me...or talking loudly? I can never tell with italians 🙂)
You know Maria Callas is Romanian right? 😄
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I told her that I had chosen for her after I had broken up with the Taurus, the Taurus then took some time to decide what she wanted, after a couple of days we met and she told me she had chosen me and had dumped the other guy.