To text or not to text? Please, if you're sick of my questions, no need to comment!

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So I will admit, I am clingy/needy/over emotional as fuck, and I keep on pushing for a relationship, when i've been told that by my guy that we are not a couple, but could be. He even said in our second to last "convo" that he was sorry that our views on our relationship is not in sync. My guy >>> "so you want me to let you go because you're stressed, and our relationship is not in sync? Sorry...."

So this is what happened. I hadn't heard from him all week, but I know that he's going through a stressful time as am I. I text him, good morning, nothing after a few hours, so I texted him again blowing up at him. He finally responds, just relax..... yadda yadda. A few more texts were exchanged (this is where he mentions how our views on our relationship is not in sync), I ask him a question, no response. But then he texts me a few days later asking me how I was, I go, i'm good, how are you? Now it's been 5 days of silence. Now I did tell him to let me go if he wasn't happy anymore, so idk if that hurt him? I've done this many times before as well.

Now do I give him more space, or reach out? I'm leaning more towards reach out, because once he didn't talk to me for 10 days (after I sent him a message talking about our future and my concerns, it was deep stuff), and when I contacted him, he responded and things were all good after that. Input please?
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If he is not establishing you as a couple and ignoring your texts - he is not that interested. Please ignore him and see if he initiates. I know it's tough to hear but I say this because you've given him all control and he is simply keeping you around as an option.

Also it sounds like a lot of useless banter back and forth. VERY UNINTERESTING. If anything, try to spice things up and see his response.
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Posted by takemeaway
If he is not establishing you as a couple and ignoring your texts - he is not that interested. Please ignore him and see if he initiates. I know it's tough to hear but I say this because you've given him all control and he is simply keeping you around as an option.

Also it sounds like a lot of useless banter back and forth. VERY UNINTERESTING. If anything, try to spice things up and see his response.
Mmm I guess it would seem that way. Very disappointing to hear after all the shit he says to me.

And yeah, i've decided that if we do reconnect, that texting will be kept to a minimum. It does get boring after awhile, how are you, what are you doing, how was work— Blah, blah, blah.
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What is your Moon? Your rising? Other placements.

i am curious.


my only advice is do whatever has worked before, but he doesn't seem too interested, what happened to your Taurus Ex?
Idk sorry lol! My birthday is 9/19/1980, birth time unknown, I was adopted.

My Taurus ex has moved on, I think he's in love, i'm happy for him. Great memory lady!
but you can get your moon...im curious

what makes you clingy

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I got waxing moon Capricorn, not sure if that's right though—

Well to a man it may seem clingy, always wanting to text, getting annoyed if he doesn't respond right away, etc. I thought that's just how it's supposed to be when you like somebody. Before this shit went down, we were texting almost every day or every other. But i've come to realize that men, especially cancerians like their space and are very independent, yes?
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Posted by takemeaway
If he is not establishing you as a couple and ignoring your texts - he is not that interested. Please ignore him and see if he initiates. I know it's tough to hear but I say this because you've given him all control and he is simply keeping you around as an option.

Also it sounds like a lot of useless banter back and forth. VERY UNINTERESTING. If anything, try to spice things up and see his response.
damn that's useless banter, i need to get my game up

im so boring on the phone, zero banter, hate talking for hours about nonsense, some people love to talk talk talk
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Lmao, I feel you! I guess i'm a boring motherfucker.
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Posted by leow31
Dont text him.
He sounds like he's not ready for a committed relationship.
The more you push the more he'll run away...
I'd say let him go...& work on you and your insecurities.
( clingy/needy/over emotional as fuck.. as you put it)
I don't believe so either. I just wish he could be honest with himself and me and stop giving me false hopes! Maybe someday he will be ready, but I think it will be too late, my heart will have already healed and moved on.
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Based on your birthday 9/19/80
The ephemeris positions for this date are:
Sidereal time: Sidereal time: 23:52:13 UTC
Ephemeris sun Sun in Virgo at 26° 12'.
Ephemeris moon Moon was in Capricorn at 13° 01'.
Ephemeris mercury Mercury in Libra at 14° 16'.
Ephemeris venus Venus was in Leo at 12° 04'.
Ephemeris mars Mars in Scorpio at 13° 48'.
Ephemeris jupiter Jupiter was in Virgo at 21° 58'.
Ephemeris saturn Saturn in Virgo at 29° 42'.
Ephemeris uranus Uranus was in Scorpio at 22° 34'.
Ephemeris neptune Neptun in Sagittarius at 19° 60'.
Ephemeris pluto Pluto was in Libra at 20° 41'.
Well thank you! Though I have no idea what all that means lol!!!!
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Ok this is my advice to you miss Virgo. Your cancer guy seems to not be interested based on what you've said, seems to me he's staying in touch just for fun "in case he needs a fun night" sex ect!!! I don't think he will fall in love nor want a serious relationship if you continue looking for him, most men show interest when they like you.
you have to let him go, you have to stop all contact. Let him be the one after you!! Let him look for you on his own. Don't text him don't initiate contact. Let him be, let him breathe. If he wants you or misses you he will return when he's ready. For now, do you, take care of you.!! Focus on you. Love yourself & do anything that makes your heart happy not including him! When you begin to feel that you no longer need him & your happy again, keep going.... If by then he comes around then that's a choice you must take, but lay the cards out on the table. If he gives you what you need great, if not then Hun it's time to keep moving... Good luck!
^^^Exactly what I was going to say.

Move on with your life, meet someone new, go out on dates, he probably is.
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I was just in a similar situation: I spent over a year with a Cancerian guy who kept making me believe we'd be together when we never were. I ended it so many times, but he knew just what to say and do to manipulate me and pull me back in. He gave just enough to keep me around, but never did what needed to be done for us to be together. He told me he loved me and that I make him happy, but it was all bullshit. I've just moved on from him, and now I'm with another Cancerian man who treats me the way I deserve to be treated.
I hope you get through this. I can tell you from experience it's one of the most difficult things you'll ever go through, but I learned when someone truly wants you, they'll make you a priority in their life, their actions will match their words, and you'll never have to question where you stand with them or how they feel about you because they'll show it.
Sending healing thoughts your way...
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Move on from this guy Jkats, he's clearly playing games with you. The non-responsiveness is a clear Cancer thing, when they have no interest or are afraid to commit to a full time relationship. Don't put up with the endless on/off, rather find something that's more consistent for you. It's possible a prolonged period of silence will wake him up, but I'd prepare for the end of it all, and hope for the slim possibility he changes his ways.
All I can do is cry, I am heartbroken. Him saying that he wanted to marry me and for me to have his baby when he clearly didn't mean any of it, is just cruel. I even had a miscarriage because of this fucker.
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Move on from this guy Jkats, he's clearly playing games with you. The non-responsiveness is a clear Cancer thing, when they have no interest or are afraid to commit to a full time relationship. Don't put up with the endless on/off, rather find something that's more consistent for you. It's possible a prolonged period of silence will wake him up, but I'd prepare for the end of it all, and hope for the slim possibility he changes his ways.
All I can do is cry, I am heartbroken. Him saying that he wanted to marry me and for me to have his baby when he clearly didn't mean any of it, is just cruel. I even had a miscarriage because of this fucker.
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We're so similar. I had a miscarriage from the Cancerian that broke my heart too. I know how painful it is... Unfortunately all you can do is what I had to do too: give yourself time to grieve, then let yourself heal.
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Move on from this guy Jkats, he's clearly playing games with you. The non-responsiveness is a clear Cancer thing, when they have no interest or are afraid to commit to a full time relationship. Don't put up with the endless on/off, rather find something that's more consistent for you. It's possible a prolonged period of silence will wake him up, but I'd prepare for the end of it all, and hope for the slim possibility he changes his ways.
All I can do is cry, I am heartbroken. Him saying that he wanted to marry me and for me to have his baby when he clearly didn't mean any of it, is just cruel. I even had a miscarriage because of this fucker.
We're so similar. I had a miscarriage from the Cancerian that broke my heart too. I know how painful it is... Unfortunately all you can do is what I had to do too: give yourself time to grieve, then let yourself heal.
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I'm so sorry, idk how these men can live with themselves. I'm no saint myself, I cheated on my ex fiance with this guy, but at least I had the balls to tell him, and enough maturity to not go running back to him when times got tough with the cancerian. I want my crab to be happy, even if it's not with me, he just needs to let me go!

How did you end things with your "ex"?
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Posted by Finbuff
Move on from this guy Jkats, he's clearly playing games with you. The non-responsiveness is a clear Cancer thing, when they have no interest or are afraid to commit to a full time relationship. Don't put up with the endless on/off, rather find something that's more consistent for you. It's possible a prolonged period of silence will wake him up, but I'd prepare for the end of it all, and hope for the slim possibility he changes his ways.
All I can do is cry, I am heartbroken. Him saying that he wanted to marry me and for me to have his baby when he clearly didn't mean any of it, is just cruel. I even had a miscarriage because of this fucker.
We're so similar. I had a miscarriage from the Cancerian that broke my heart too. I know how painful it is... Unfortunately all you can do is what I had to do too: give yourself time to grieve, then let yourself heal.
I'm so sorry, idk how these men can live with themselves. I'm no saint myself, I cheated on my ex fiance with this guy, but at least I had the balls to tell him, and enough maturity to not go running back to him when times got tough with the cancerian. I want my crab to be happy, even if it's not with me, he just needs to let me go!

How did you end things with your "ex"?
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It was awful... I tried to bow out gracefully once again by telling him I was done, but he came to me crying on my shoulder not wanting me to end our relationship (again). He said he was in a bad place and would let me go so he could work on himself, then we'd "try this again," thus giving me false hope (again) that we'd be together. A few days later I go on Facebook to discover he was back with his ex (again). I blocked him on Facebook and on my phone. I was so hurt. I think anyone who repeatedly hurts someone who loves them is absolutely despicable. A couple months later I was still struggling to move on, so I opened the "spam messages" folder to see if he tried to contact me. I found one text he sent about 3 weeks after I blocked him saying, "I thought you still wanted to be friends, you said. Guess not?" Are you fucking kidding me?! Thankfully that text was just what I needed to finally get over him completely. I allowed him to mistreat me for too long.
Lesson learned, believe me.
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Wy don't you try alter the routine? Just avoid 'deep texts' and be casual. You could intrigue him.

BTW, I had te same situation. My cancer appeared just insecure about mature stuff and had lots of relationships elsewhere.
I didn't believe that (I was 200% sure he was honest and true with me and would never hurt my feelings). He went all romantic, caring, loving, attentve, talked about summer holidays together, plans etc.......until one day he had one more business trips and went so cold I felt sth wasn't right. I texted him watssup he responded but was distant. I just made a joke about having an affair with some pretty girl in that town - he responded "Life is OK." and logged out. So I was worried and found on FB all recent friends and guess what I found there - her pics with him hugging on the bed of a hotel room in bathrobes. The next time he contacted me with ´how are you?' I told him I wasn't satisfied with kind of relationship we had - to which he replied "It seems you're reading into things too much. We are just keeping in touch, nothing more."

So that's how I learned I will never trust 'nice and caring' men so easily in my entire life. I relised I was just one of the victims he kept stringing along.


I hope your situation is different. Just wanted to share it because our as it turned out 'nothing more just keeping in touch' went soooo good and much more promising at the beginning than it ended.
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Dont text him.
He sounds like he's not ready for a committed relationship.
The more you push the more he'll run away...
I'd say let him go...& work on you and your insecurities.
( clingy/needy/over emotional as fuck.. as you put it)
I don't believe so either. I just wish he could be honest with himself and me and stop giving me false hopes! Maybe someday he will be ready, but I think it will be too late, my heart will have already healed and moved on.
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How has he given you false hope?

By your own admission he's been upfront with you since the beginning. He's brought up repeatedly that you are both looking for different things when it comes to a relationship.

Your just in major denial.
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Dont text him.
He sounds like he's not ready for a committed relationship.
The more you push the more he'll run away...
I'd say let him go...& work on you and your insecurities.
( clingy/needy/over emotional as fuck.. as you put it)
I don't believe so either. I just wish he could be honest with himself and me and stop giving me false hopes! Maybe someday he will be ready, but I think it will be too late, my heart will have already healed and moved on.
How has he given you false hope?

By your own admission he's been upfront with you since the beginning. He's brought up repeatedly that you are both looking for different things when it comes to a relationship.

Your just in major denial.
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Well when he tells me repeatedly that he wants to marry me and for me to have his baby, has tried to get me pregnant on 3 different occasions, what am I supposed to think ya know? Once he said, just get pregnant so we can go get married. Just recently, we should probably plan that (wedding) out before baby. Like WTF?!?! He goes from one extreme to the next, I don't fucking get it. And the one time where I truly thought I was prego, he was SO happy, asking me every day if I was. When I was freaking out, he calmed me down and reassured me that everything was going to be ok. So yeah, can you now understand my confusion, frustration, hurt and anger lol?
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I think he wants you but is either new to this, struggling with his emotions, or scared to make the next step. Somrthing about you could be making him apprehensive. Those I love the most I give the hardest time because the feels makes things difficult and complicated. It's nothing personal, it's just how I move through my feelings. The easiest way to break this down would be to have a good and honest chat.
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I think he wants you but is either new to this, struggling with his emotions, or scared to make the next step. Somrthing about you could be making him apprehensive. Those I love the most I give the hardest time because the feels makes things difficult and complicated. It's nothing personal, it's just how I move through my feelings. The easiest way to break this down would be to have a good and honest chat.
I wish this were true, but it's too hard to believe that this is the case for his actions. I haven't seen him in three weeks, there is no effort on his part. Cancerian or not, i've gotta draw the line somewhere with all this ridiculousness!
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If you´re not mature enough or don´t have the balls to really talk about things with him, when he says stuff like he wants to get you pregnant, so he can marry you, well then that´s what´s keeping you in this constant loop. If you just really talked with him ans listened and accepted what he said, you would have no doubts.
I definitely will the next time we see each other, if there is a next time....
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If you´re not mature enough or don´t have the balls to really talk about things with him, when he says stuff like he wants to get you pregnant, so he can marry you, well then that´s what´s keeping you in this constant loop. If you just really talked with him ans listened and accepted what he said, you would have no doubts.
I definitely will the next time we see each other, if there is a next time....
I´m actually not trying to be a smart ass. This - in my opinion - is one of the main reasons, why especially us women delude ourselves for such a long time. A guy can say "I love you", and regardless of how much his actions and behaviour says otherwise, we chose to believe it, just because it´s nice to hear. Instead ask about it! If he says, he wants to get you pregnant, so he can marry you, ask him if he is really ready for a child. Is he ready for a life lon responsibility, to get up in the middle of the night for a year to change diapers? To put hs own life sort of on hold for another person, to dedicate himself like that to a child and to you? How are you financial situations? And let alone the situation with you two!

I mean, did you seriously think about having a child with this person??!!! To me it sounds like you were both in a bubble of dreamy scenarios, but I guess one of you was more aware, that it was never gonna happen, than the other.
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I know you're not, you're just trying to prevent further heartbreak for me. But you know how it is when your heart takes over, even when your mind is telling you to WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

We did decide to wait to have a baby, but that's neither here nor there now. I really can't believe a word he says.

Maybe he did want a baby, who knows, but after reality set in and he realized how serious things were getting, he put a stop to "us". I feel that this is the end, for whatever reason, but it's for the best.
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I think he wants you but is either new to this, struggling with his emotions, or scared to make the next step. Somrthing about you could be making him apprehensive. Those I love the most I give the hardest time because the feels makes things difficult and complicated. It's nothing personal, it's just how I move through my feelings. The easiest way to break this down would be to have a good and honest chat.
I wish this were true, but it's too hard to believe that this is the case for his actions. I haven't seen him in three weeks, there is no effort on his part. Cancerian or not, i've gotta draw the line somewhere with all this ridiculousness!
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It really is ridiculous and you should never put up with that. I just thought you could maybe understand the other side of the coin. During my immature times I have not been outright and frank when it came to my feelings and my wants. And times that I did I overdid it and turned what could of been a great romance into a wet blanket. Usually it boils down to knowing exactly what the other person wants and reassurance. Once I have reassurance on a physical, mental and emotional note, all systems are go and then I let lose and love hard. I feel like I do best in situations where trust, honesty, safety, and open communication is easy to come by. If not I try to gauge where to end and where to begin based on nonverbal or indirect or emotional language. This is not good. Once in this place-unless frankness happens-it will be hard to build a real and true relationship. I know when I feel like the other person really isn't into me, I withdraw (even when I'm into the other person). If he has bad behavior DO NOT PLAY INTO THAT. Approach him directly because he may not know how big of an ass he is being or how he is making you feel (or he might know but not think you care enough about it).

It is also very very possible that he isn't into you though.

Hope that helps.

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Posted by TaurusMarine
Wy don't you try alter the routine? Just avoid 'deep texts' and be casual. You could intrigue him.

BTW, I had te same situation. My cancer appeared just insecure about mature stuff and had lots of relationships elsewhere.
I didn't believe that (I was 200% sure he was honest and true with me and would never hurt my feelings). He went all romantic, caring, loving, attentve, talked about summer holidays together, plans etc.......until one day he had one more business trips and went so cold I felt sth wasn't right. I texted him watssup he responded but was distant. I just made a joke about having an affair with some pretty girl in that town - he responded "Life is OK." and logged out. So I was worried and found on FB all recent friends and guess what I found there - her pics with him hugging on the bed of a hotel room in bathrobes. The next time he contacted me with ´how are you?' I told him I wasn't satisfied with kind of relationship we had - to which he replied "It seems you're reading into things too much. We are just keeping in touch, nothing more."

So that's how I learned I will never trust 'nice and caring' men so easily in my entire life. I relised I was just one of the victims he kept stringing along.


I hope your situation is different. Just wanted to share it because our as it turned out 'nothing more just keeping in touch' went soooo good and much more promising at the beginning than it ended.
This really resonated with me. I just recently broke things off with a Cancer men. He was very cunning, said all the right things but wasn't really showing them. In fact, he was super clingy, affectionate from the beginning and I felt he just wanted sex. He also was making plans well into the future. How can you do that only after 1 date? After 1 month together, I told him I feel we need to go out more together as a couple, and he completely blew up at me. He said I insulted him and was very angry. I decided from there it was over and that was that. I got away before I had sex with him, which is the only thing he was trying to achieve in the last 2 weeks of our dating. I'm so glad I never gave it up.