Hard to love a CAP! (Is this what it's like?)

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The previous topic about it being hard to love a Cap hits the mark for me.

My Cap and I have been doing better lately, but his personality just makes it so hard for me to fall in love with him.

Example ---

We had plans to hang out this long weekend (4 days). He forgot that one of his best friends is having an anniversary party, so he might be busy for 2 of those days. He still hasn't confirmed what's happening there, so I'm kind of left hanging.

On my end, one of my employees cancelled last minute, so I need to cover for 5 hours on one of the days. I told my Cap right away, and offered to make it up by letting him pick any destination for a picnic next weekend ( I will drive and bring the picnic too). He just has to choose the place he wants to go, as he often says he hasn't been here or there. We had talked about a picnic last weekend, so I figured it's an appropriate idea.

Any problems there? Can you think of anything wrong with my offer?

His response?

He said - I'm the one who wants to go for a picnic with "no decision making" so how is that making it up to him? Bad sell. -

Is he for real? I'm so turned off by that response. It shows me he is almost impossible to be happy with.

Is being with a Cap guy akin to seeing the negative in almost everything? Like if we were on a beautiful beach somewhere with 5 star service (insert your dream vacation), there will still* be something wrong.











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Posted by pinkbird03
Sounds like he wants you to plan it. But are u sure he even wants to go on a picnic?
Thanks for the reply.

I am planning it - driving and bringing the food. He's just choosing the location. I can choose a location no problem was trying to be nice by giving him that option.

He actually suggested the picnic like 2 years ago, and we never did it, so I'm quite sure he wants to do it.

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Maybe you should think about what he really would love to do. It sounds like he thinks it was what you wanted & he wasn't all that interested in it. I mean if you're making up for something, you should think in terms of what he likes.

Yes, they are moody & negative at times. Not all the time. I went with my ex-bf (Cap when he was still my bf) to Mexico for a week & we had a fabulous time. Speaking to your on a beautiful beach comment.
Thanks for the feedback.

Glad to know that you had a good vacation with your ex-Cap.

He's the one that plans things in terms of what we both* like. Isn't that hypocritical of him to give me this kind of negative reply when I do the same? He suggested the picnic.

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Maybe you should think about what he really would love to do. It sounds like he thinks it was what you wanted & he wasn't all that interested in it. I mean if you're making up for something, you should think in terms of what he likes.

Yes, they are moody & negative at times. Not all the time. I went with my ex-bf (Cap when he was still my bf) to Mexico for a week & we had a fabulous time. Speaking to your on a beautiful beach comment.

I so agree with this...the picnic suggestion was two years ago in a different phase of your relationship I'm assuming..relationships evolve. Think of what spins his wheels!! ?
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Maybe you should think about what he really would love to do. It sounds like he thinks it was what you wanted & he wasn't all that interested in it. I mean if you're making up for something, you should think in terms of what he likes.

Yes, they are moody & negative at times. Not all the time. I went with my ex-bf (Cap when he was still my bf) to Mexico for a week & we had a fabulous time. Speaking to your on a beautiful beach comment.

I so agree with this...the picnic suggestion was two years ago in a different phase of your relationship I'm assuming..relationships evolve. Think of what spins his wheels!! ?

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Thanks for the message.

We talked about it last weekend though.

I just don't get people who seem to constantly complain about something petty (this is petty imo).
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Is being with a Cap guy akin to seeing the negative in almost everything? Like if we were on a beautiful beach somewhere with 5 star service (insert your dream vacation), there will still* be something wrong.


Yep. Some of the most pessimistic people I know-Men and women. Which is ironic because in a group setting they're the life of the party and full of energy, but alone time with them is pretty different. When my cap ex began to open up more, it became a bit draining. And no matter how much I've tried to reassure positivity within a situation or outcome he resorts to a "meh" mentality. That is one example of many caps I know. Sometimes I wonder if it's a tactic to have their ego stroked.
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Is being with a Cap guy akin to seeing the negative in almost everything? Like if we were on a beautiful beach somewhere with 5 star service (insert your dream vacation), there will still* be something wrong.


Yep. Some of the most pessimistic people I know-Men and women. Which is ironic because in a group setting they're the life of the party and full of energy, but alone time with them is pretty different. When my cap ex began to open up more, it became a bit draining. And no matter how much I've tried to reassure positivity within a situation or outcome he resorts to a "meh" mentality. That is one example of many caps I know. Sometimes I wonder if it's a tactic to have their ego stroked.
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I wonder that too sometimes.

It's like everything becomes about him, his moods, his likes/dislikes, etc. It seems so petty to me some of the things he complains about. A trip to the grocery store can be filled with negativity from how long the line is, how long someone takes to pick their item (blocking him from picking), stuff like that.

I end up being the positive one and tip toeing, not wanting to talk about my own problems or set him off. It's exhausting.
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Is being with a Cap guy akin to seeing the negative in almost everything? Like if we were on a beautiful beach somewhere with 5 star service (insert your dream vacation), there will still* be something wrong.


Yep. Some of the most pessimistic people I know-Men and women. Which is ironic because in a group setting they're the life of the party and full of energy, but alone time with them is pretty different. When my cap ex began to open up more, it became a bit draining. And no matter how much I've tried to reassure positivity within a situation or outcome he resorts to a "meh" mentality. That is one example of many caps I know. Sometimes I wonder if it's a tactic to have their ego stroked.
I wonder that too sometimes.

It's like everything becomes about him, his moods, his likes/dislikes, etc. It seems so petty to me some of the things he complains about. A trip to the grocery store can be filled with negativity from how long the line is, how long someone takes to pick their item (blocking him from picking), stuff like that.

I end up being the positive one and tip toeing, not wanting to talk about my own problems or set him off. It's exhausting.

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Haha those were the exact things my ex would complain about. I've actually seen him complain to the waiter because they put tomatoes in his burger and ask the waiter to bring him a new burger. To be fair, he did say no tomatoes. I didn't understand why he didn't just pick them off, which is the normal alternative. I am careful around people who handle my food.

And that's where I see the selfishness arise and "woe is me," when you try to discuss your problem, which only rings a bell of a similar problem in which they have to bring up and talk over...because it's relevant.

It may sound like I'm belittling caps, but they are very warm and affectionate when they're comfortable around you. It's if you can get past the negativity or not.
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Y'all are describing very self centered Caps, which most are BTW.

Caps are complainers. Between my Cap friend and I our whole conversation everyday is us complaining about work.

I'm not sure if its a thing with details or not, but maybe that's why things seem so petty. The tiniest thing can irritate us, and I mean tiny.

IF you are going to deal with Caps like this, the best thing to do is be yourself, and ignore the Caps energy and complaints. Its not your job to try to cheer us up, or even listen lol. Don't try to be positive, just be positive if that's you. Eventually it will rub off. Caps ARE draining. Well, my female friend more so than my male friend. I honestly don't know how people deal.
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I'm not sure if its a thing with details or not, but maybe that's why things seem so petty. The tiniest thing can irritate us, and I mean tiny.



It's indeed in the details. The distinction between a Cap and Virgo's critical nature? Caps are nitpicky throughout the plan from beginning to the end. Virgos are critical if the outcome of a plan changes.

Scenario: Taking a road trip to get from point A to point B by renting a car. Arrive at the rental company only to find your car has been upgraded to an SUV with a slight upcharge due to internal miscommunication and no availability of cars. However, it will not delay the trip and will arrive on time as scheduled.

Virgo mentality: I don't agree with the charge, I mean it was THEIR fault. But is it worth it to fight it? Well the upcharge was hardly a dent and it's not messing up my plan. So nah. Plus more room! At least I don't have to resort to plan B and everything else is on schedule, perfect!

Cap mentality: I was expecting to pay 'x' amount, I shouldn't have to be charged more. Terrible customer service, I should be highly compensated for this slight inconvenience. And all this extra car room is unnecessary.
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Is being with a Cap guy akin to seeing the negative in almost everything? Like if we were on a beautiful beach somewhere with 5 star service (insert your dream vacation), there will still* be something wrong.


Yep. Some of the most pessimistic people I know-Men and women. Which is ironic because in a group setting they're the life of the party and full of energy, but alone time with them is pretty different. When my cap ex began to open up more, it became a bit draining. And no matter how much I've tried to reassure positivity within a situation or outcome he resorts to a "meh" mentality. That is one example of many caps I know. Sometimes I wonder if it's a tactic to have their ego stroked.
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It is, they want you to kiss ass
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Posted by lnana04
Y'all are describing very self centered Caps, which most are BTW.

Caps are complainers. Between my Cap friend and I our whole conversation everyday is us complaining about work.

I'm not sure if its a thing with details or not, but maybe that's why things seem so petty. The tiniest thing can irritate us, and I mean tiny.

IF you are going to deal with Caps like this, the best thing to do is be yourself, and ignore the Caps energy and complaints. Its not your job to try to cheer us up, or even listen lol. Don't try to be positive, just be positive if that's you. Eventually it will rub off. Caps ARE draining. Well, my female friend more so than my male friend. I honestly don't know how people deal.
Thanks for your honesty.

The tiniest thing does irritate him and causes tons of cancelled plans/ruined evenings. For example, he is running behind to meet and still has things to do, so I offered to meet him later than we had planned. Instead of saying thanks and sorry, it becomes about HIM being tired and blah blah. So what does he actually want? A last minute cancellation?

I said, we can meet later than planned, but canceling completely is not a compromise. He basically said fine, but he'll be "inhospitable" later.

To me that is SO SELFISH.
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Is being with a Cap guy akin to seeing the negative in almost everything? Like if we were on a beautiful beach somewhere with 5 star service (insert your dream vacation), there will still* be something wrong.


Yep. Some of the most pessimistic people I know-Men and women. Which is ironic because in a group setting they're the life of the party and full of energy, but alone time with them is pretty different. When my cap ex began to open up more, it became a bit draining. And no matter how much I've tried to reassure positivity within a situation or outcome he resorts to a "meh" mentality. That is one example of many caps I know. Sometimes I wonder if it's a tactic to have their ego stroked.
It is, they want you to kiss ass
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Thanks for the reply.

How did you handle your Cap?

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Is being with a Cap guy akin to seeing the negative in almost everything? Like if we were on a beautiful beach somewhere with 5 star service (insert your dream vacation), there will still* be something wrong.


Yep. Some of the most pessimistic people I know-Men and women. Which is ironic because in a group setting they're the life of the party and full of energy, but alone time with them is pretty different. When my cap ex began to open up more, it became a bit draining. And no matter how much I've tried to reassure positivity within a situation or outcome he resorts to a "meh" mentality. That is one example of many caps I know. Sometimes I wonder if it's a tactic to have their ego stroked.
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On point. I see so many topics of women asking about caps and how to gain their interest, when really it's quite simple.

The key is to flattering their ego. Tell him how handsome he looks, tell him how funny he is, tell him he has great taste in whatever his interests lie. When he is sharing his stories and experiences, listen with enthusiasm and an open mind. The trick is to not overindulge on the compliments where it comes off as phony.

And if you really want to make him swoon: "I really like the way how your mind works. You've opened my mind to different perspectives...please tell me more!"

😉