Ask a Leo (Page 11)

Posted by Jayc3on
What's the difference between Aries & Leo Women? I can't seem to decipher it.

Aries is the child, leo is the teenager. Thats the most simple way i can describe

Posted by RooSagicorn
What does it mean when a Leo tells you “you go deep” related to a relationship that has just ended & he’s listened to you be hysterical, crying & been your support?

You should just ask him what he means. Sounds like you go all in when you're in a relationship.

Posted by RooSagicorn
What does it mean when a Leo tells you “you go deep” related to a relationship that has just ended & he’s listened to you be hysterical, crying & been your support?

It means you have deep feelings, probably come off a little cold so for him to see you be all emotional he doesn't see it as a bad thing, he sees it as "wow this chick is deeper than i thought"

You have cap venus right?

to a capricorn, leos fall into their 8th house, which rules intimacy, that is probably why you are able to talk freely to him about such things.

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What does it mean when a Leo tells you “you go deep” related to a relationship that has just ended & he’s listened to you be hysterical, crying & been your support?

You should just ask him what he means. Sounds like you go all in when you're in a relationship.

I do & I guess he was a little surprised on this one. I’m not sure what that means to him though. I guess I was wondering if that was a good thing to a Leo.

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Sounds like it's more a statement of fact. For a Leo "going all in" wouldn't be a negative thing. The statement itself just sounds neutral though.

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What does it mean when a Leo tells you “you go deep” related to a relationship that has just ended & he’s listened to you be hysterical, crying & been your support?

It means you have deep feelings, probably come off a little cold so for him to see you be all emotional he doesn't see it as a bad thing, he sees it as "wow this chick is deeper than i thought"

You have cap venus right?

to a capricorn, leos fall into their 8th house, which rules intimacy, that is probably why you are able to talk freely to him about such things.

He’s seen me be emotional before, but I tend to hold things back. I have been cold to him since I was in a relationship & well he’s not available anyway. He’s seen me after both of my divorces (he’sknown me for 30 years). And in my life, he has seen me go from not telling him anything to being completely open. I guess it’s just a sign of how comfortable I am with him. It’s highly unusual. But no one has been as good of a friend as him ever. He was completely there for me this time yet again..

Leo is in my 7th & 8th house. Yes I have Cap Venus. I dated a different Leo & he helped me to open up also after my divorce ( I was closed up very tightly & he was the first guy I dated well starting when I was separated). Then this one showed up in my life again & has helped continue the process, but he also knows everything I’ve been through ( knowing both my ex husband’s). He told me not to date the Cap btw.. but he was there for the aftermath both times! I was just surprised at his comment. I felt like saying & you don’t? But i just said yeah I do.

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You shouldn’t hold things back! It’s good to get things off your chest, holding things in is not good for your health. But having Leo in the 8 th house really brings all that forward, shines a light in your intimacy house. Why didn’t you ever date him?

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What does it mean when a Leo tells you “you go deep” related to a relationship that has just ended & he’s listened to you be hysterical, crying & been your support?

You should just ask him what he means. Sounds like you go all in when you're in a relationship.

I do & I guess he was a little surprised on this one. I’m not sure what that means to him though. I guess I was wondering if that was a good thing to a Leo.

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What’s his chart do you know? If he has cancer Venus or any cancer then he’s going to think it’s a good thing to think deeply.

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What does it mean when a Leo tells you “you go deep” related to a relationship that has just ended & he’s listened to you be hysterical, crying & been your support?

It means you have deep feelings, probably come off a little cold so for him to see you be all emotional he doesn't see it as a bad thing, he sees it as "wow this chick is deeper than i thought"

You have cap venus right?

to a capricorn, leos fall into their 8th house, which rules intimacy, that is probably why you are able to talk freely to him about such things.

He’s seen me be emotional before, but I tend to hold things back. I have been cold to him since I was in a relationship & well he’s not available anyway. He’s seen me after both of my divorces (he’sknown me for 30 years). And in my life, he has seen me go from not telling him anything to being completely open. I guess it’s just a sign of how comfortable I am with him. It’s highly unusual. But no one has been as good of a friend as him ever. He was completely there for me this time yet again..

Leo is in my 7th & 8th house. Yes I have Cap Venus. I dated a different Leo & he helped me to open up also after my divorce ( I was closed up very tightly & he was the first guy I dated well starting when I was separated). Then this one showed up in my life again & has helped continue the process, but he also knows everything I’ve been through ( knowing both my ex husband’s). He told me not to date the Cap btw.. but he was there for the aftermath both times! I was just surprised at his comment. I felt like saying & you don’t? But i just said yeah I do.

You shouldn’t hold things back! It’s good to get things off your chest, holding things in is not good for your health. But having Leo in the 8 th house really brings all that forward, shines a light in your intimacy house. Why didn’t you ever date him?

Lol yeah. People don’t react very well when I get things off my chest from childhood to most of my relationships. Except the Leo’s. Well & a Virgo sun Cancer Moon. Since my divorce or right before it I learned that I needed to express my emotions so I am better but it took awhile to feel safe to open up & well depends on the person.

Anyway, ahhh it’s all so complicated. Well after I left my first husband he was there for me & wanted to date me. He was crazy about me & only 20. I was 27, just left a very irresponsible guy & here was this adorable guy but we were just in different places. I had a career, he was still trying to figure out what he was doing. But we hung out a lot as friends.. I was just too scared to give him an inch, I knew he’d take a mile. Well he accidentally introduced me to my second husband.. and that was it. We were together 20 years. But we moved 700 miles away. A few years ago, he found me in FB through mutual friends & well when he found out I was divorced he came flying at me. We were both having a hard time then & had a fling or something for about a year. I walked away cuz there was no future. That was 3 years ago. He still calls me all the time refusing to let go.. but he still doesn’t know what he wants. And well I live 700 miles away. So I only allow friends. Even after I told him I wasn’t moving back & I would only move somewhere with the Cap, he still called to check on me. Make sure I was okay. I’d ask him why he still calls me.. I mean really? Who does this. He says he will always care about me, no matter what. Idk sometimes I think maybe someday things will align, but I have to just think of him as a friend. It’s very hard to let go, like we are not supposed to. Or maybe it’s because being out of touch for 18 years isn’t something either of us can imagine to happen again. I mean he’s always the one who picks me up and tells me I’m going to rock this world & to get my ass up & stop moping around. Lol. You know he believes in me like no one else ever has.. the path perhaps I should’ve taken.. who knows.

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Wow! Seems like you guys have been through a lot together. Leo’s will be your friend for life. But i can see where the age difference in the beginning was a problem, at that age it kinda of matters.

How crazy to think where your life would of been if you had chosen him... crazy how life works out

Posted by Jayc3on
Any artists here?

like musical artist?

ive produced a few songs but im just starting out.. if that's what you meant :3

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Posted by Jayc3on
Any artists here?

like musical artist?

I've produced a few songs but im just starting out.. if that's what you meant :3

Yes that and good drawers.

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Yep, trained at Disney and was an art major in college. Sold a few things too, nothing crazy.

Posted by cinnamonapples
Hey Chuckcem,

Hope you are well. I private messaged you for advice - didn't want to get lost in this long thread. Would appreciate if you could please take a look - thank you! 🙂

Got it and just responded.

Hey Chuckcem,

What does it mean if a Leo man has a girlfriend but tells you that he wants to be with you but can't cause he's "loyal". Mind you, this Leo is SUPER touchy and flirty and is a gentlemen like buys lunch, etc. Says he's unhappy in relationship butttttttt isn't making any moves. If he was so unhappy why not just leave who he's got just in general -regardless- of who's lined up or not? Am I supposed to make a move?? I don't wanna be -that- person.

Posted by aprilfoolaries
Hey Chuckcem,

What does it mean if a Leo man has a girlfriend but tells you that he wants to be with you but can't cause he's "loyal". Mind you, this Leo is SUPER touchy and flirty and is a gentlemen like buys lunch, etc. Says he's unhappy in relationship butttttttt isn't making any moves. If he was so unhappy why not just leave who he's got just in general -regardless- of who's lined up or not? Am I supposed to make a move?? I don't wanna be -that- person.

He literally means what he means. He likes you (or at least thinks that he likes you), but already has a girlfriend so he can't be with you. I would say that his honesty is honorable, but if he's being super touchy or flirty, he's not as honorable as he seems. Granted some people might see his actions as harmless, while others would see it as the beginnings of emotional cheating. Either way he knows he can't push things with you, but he may be gauging you to see how you accept his advances.

Leos (and fixed signs in general) typically have a strong sense of loyalty to our partners and/or partnerships. Leos in particular can have a old fashioned, romantic view of relationships. So the Leo is portraying that mentality. However there is a conflict between his heart and his head. What he should do and what he wants to do are two completely different things.

Furthermore the problem here is an obvious one. You can't (or rather shouldn't) entertain the advances of a person who is already in a relationship. Aside from it being morally objectionable, there's no guarantee that things will work out for you.

For starters you'd more than likely be just a rebound for him, so whatever tryst you two shared would probably be short lived and unsatisfying down the line. If the Leo were to actually cheat with you (which some do), know that his behavior wouldn't change with you either. If he lost interest in you, know that he could easily start flirting with other woman while still with you. The mistake would be to think you were somehow the exception and could change his behavior.

My advice is to do nothing. Let him know that you are attractive to him as well (if you are) and to let you know when he is no longer in a relationship.

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Posted by aprilfoolaries
Hey Chuckcem,

What does it mean if a Leo man has a girlfriend but tells you that he wants to be with you but can't cause he's "loyal". Mind you, this Leo is SUPER touchy and flirty and is a gentlemen like buys lunch, etc. Says he's unhappy in relationship butttttttt isn't making any moves. If he was so unhappy why not just leave who he's got just in general -regardless- of who's lined up or not? Am I supposed to make a move?? I don't wanna be -that- person.

He literally means what he means. He likes you (or at least thinks that he likes you), but already has a girlfriend so he can't be with you. I would say that his honesty is honorable, but if he's being super touchy or flirty, he's not as honorable as he seems. Granted some people might see his actions as harmless, while others would see it as the beginnings of emotional cheating. Either way he knows he can't push things with you, but he may be gauging you to see how you accept his advances.

Leos (and fixed signs in general) typically have a strong sense of loyalty to our partners and/or partnerships. Leos in particular can have a old fashioned, romantic view of relationships. So the Leo is portraying that mentality. However there is a conflict between his heart and his head. What he should do and what he wants to do are two completely different things.

Furthermore the problem here is an obvious one. You can't (or rather shouldn't) entertain the advances of a person who is already in a relationship. Aside from it being morally objectionable, there's no guarantee that things will work out for you.

For starters you'd more than likely be just a rebound for him, so whatever tryst you two shared would probably be short lived and unsatisfying down the line. If the Leo were to actually cheat with you (which some do), know that his behavior wouldn't change with you either. If he lost interest in you, know that he could easily start flirting with other woman while still with you. The mistake would be to think you were somehow the exception and could change his behavior.

My advice is to do nothing. Let him know that you are attractive to him as well (if you are) and to let you know when he is no longer in a relationship.

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Wow. This advice is spot-on. I had my own opinions on all of this, and you just affirmed most of them. I agree with you 100% . If he were to leave his girlfriend (whether for me or just in general), you're right, there is no guarantee his behavior (flirting with other woman, boredom, etc.) would change just because he's chosen to be with me. Makes sense. He's also mentioned how he's just letting the chips fall as they may, so to speak. Also, when you mentioned how he is honorable for being so honest, yet not-so-honorable for being so flirtatious while taken, I had thought the same. Emotional cheating, yes.

Thank you so much for clarifying a lot of my thought process and for shining some light on some new thoughts I hadn't yet considered.

I prob didn't mention this before but I'm an Aries and his partner is a Taurus so of course I had slightly high hopes (though I try not to for obvious reasons) of whatever we had going on (which isn't much of anything to be honest). I don't let him get too far. He also doesn't push the envelope. His partner being a fixed sign as well makes the two of them very loyal to one another or so I've read... even though typically Leo and Taurus are a match made in hell (supposedly).

Thank you so much for your response again! Great answers. You really helped out a ton. 🙂

Posted by Jayc3on
@Chuckcem Lookwise J-Lo or Halle Berry?

Prooobably Halle Berry. That's an interesting question though. Had to ponder that one for a bit.

Posted by Jayc3on
Was she right?

I can attest to feeling the most disconnected from Pisces. I've barely known any (at least to my knowledge) and the few that I did know, I barely knew.

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Was she right?

I can attest to feeling the most disconnected from Pisces. I've barely known any (at least to my knowledge) and the few that I did know, I barely knew. click to expand

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Nope, fire and water.

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Was she right?

I can attest to feeling the most disconnected from Pisces. I've barely known any (at least to my knowledge) and the few that I did know, I barely knew. click to expand

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Nope, fire and water. click to expand

Passion & wisdom. Taking a shot and say Leo & Cancer. Correct? click to expand

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Nope, Pisces and Sag. My placements are fairly even but Pisces, Cancer, Scorpio account for 32.8% of it while Sag, Leo, and Aries account for 26.2% of it. So in that case I'm water dominant by 6.6%

We read about all these grand romantic displays that Leo's are know for when dating/courting or when in a relationship (could be a bunch of bs...for all I know) But how do you act with someone new if you've been hurt multiple times before by others? Do you tend to curb those displays because you are more guarded? Is it because you are half in and half out...like just killing time till someone worth those displays comes along? Like you can like someone, think they are cool and all but not feeling that romantic spark so you make sure not to give any mix signals etc.

I think the Leo I'm dating (a little over a month) is broken and my Leo moon is craving displays of something 😂 😋.

Naw, really is too soon for all of that and a big part of me is glad that he doesn't seem like the type (anymore) as I tend to find it fake like or not genuine but the little part (I blame my moon) is like hmm...wth man.

Anyway, he recently told me that he used to get his ex wife flowers every Friday...like from the beginning before they were married up until the end (together 12 yrs married for only two of those years.. divorced 3 yrs ago). The virgo in me is like damn...that's a lot of money down the drain but then on the flip side...my moon is like...yes, I want all the flowers...where are they?! lol (I'm not even a flower person lol). So then he tells me about how each relationship has left a little thicker scar on his heart. Which is understandable...it happens to most of us.

So really I'm just curious on how you all operate when you've been hurt and decide to put yourself out there again. Also, I'm in overanalyzation mode...it is what it is so don't judge me! 😋.

^ this sounds absolutely ridiculous smh lol

So much contradiction but fuck it...

Posted by LostinmyMind11
We read about all these grand romantic displays that Leo's are know for when dating/courting or when in a relationship (could be a bunch of bs...for all I know) But how do you act with someone new if you've been hurt multiple times before by others? Do you tend to curb those displays because you are more guarded? Is it because you are half in and half out...like just killing time till someone worth those displays comes along? Like you can like someone, think they are cool and all but not feeling that romantic spark so you make sure not to give any mix signals etc.

I think the Leo I'm dating (a little over a month) is broken and my Leo moon is craving displays of something 😂 😋.

Naw, really is too soon for all of that and a big part of me is glad that he doesn't seem like the type (anymore) as I tend to find it fake like or not genuine but the little part (I blame my moon) is like hmm...wth man.

Anyway, he recently told me that he used to get his ex wife flowers every Friday...like from the beginning before they were married up until the end (together 12 yrs married for only two of those years.. divorced 3 yrs ago). The virgo in me is like damn...that's a lot of money down the drain but then on the flip side...my moon is like...yes, I want all the flowers...where are they?! lol (I'm not even a flower person lol). So then he tells me about how each relationship has left a little thicker scar on his heart. Which is understandable...it happens to most of us.

So really I'm just curious on how you all operate when you've been hurt and decide to put yourself out there again. Also, I'm in overanalyzation mode...it is what it is so don't judge me! 😋.

^ this sounds absolutely ridiculous smh lol
So much contradiction but treetrunk it...

Well at least you realized how many contradictory statements you've made, so I recommend picking a lane first. Do you want the romantic displays or don't you? You've managed to chastise both options, so I'm not sure what you're expecting from a Leo you're if you're sending out such confusing signals.

Yes the grand gestures are real and yes we will curb them after we've been hurt in the past. Why? We learn that most people don't love at our level and will often take advantage of our hearts. Practically every Leo has been hurt by someone who took us for granted. We eventually learn to hold back and wait for a partner who can consistently reciprocate our emotions. It's not about being broken, it's about learning from past missteps.

Ask any Leo (especially the men) about our past romantic displays and you'll probably be shocked. Then ask how that particular relationship went/ended. Leos hate being disappointed and often we find ourselves in that frame of mind when are actions aren't appreciated.

Leos are also known to be open and somewhat gullible romantics until we learn how to protect that side of ourselves. We have to learn to be skeptical, often having a more benevolent outlook on life. So we eventually learn to avoid disappointment by toning things down and focusing on those who deserve our energy most.

If you want more romantic displays from a Leo who has been burned in the past, then you'll need need to step it up on your end. Sure you can stick around and be consistent in little ways (the way most Virgos do) OR you can push things forward with romantic displays of your own. If the Leo feels that you will also make the effort for him, he'll make even more of an effort for you.

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Posted by LostinmyMind11
We read about all these grand romantic displays that Leo's are know for when dating/courting or when in a relationship (could be a bunch of bs...for all I know) But how do you act with someone new if you've been hurt multiple times before by others? Do you tend to curb those displays because you are more guarded? Is it because you are half in and half out...like just killing time till someone worth those displays comes along? Like you can like someone, think they are cool and all but not feeling that romantic spark so you make sure not to give any mix signals etc.

I think the Leo I'm dating (a little over a month) is broken and my Leo moon is craving displays of something 😂 😋.

Naw, really is too soon for all of that and a big part of me is glad that he doesn't seem like the type (anymore) as I tend to find it fake like or not genuine but the little part (I blame my moon) is like hmm...wth man.

Anyway, he recently told me that he used to get his ex wife flowers every Friday...like from the beginning before they were married up until the end (together 12 yrs married for only two of those years.. divorced 3 yrs ago). The virgo in me is like damn...that's a lot of money down the drain but then on the flip side...my moon is like...yes, I want all the flowers...where are they?! lol (I'm not even a flower person lol). So then he tells me about how each relationship has left a little thicker scar on his heart. Which is understandable...it happens to most of us.

So really I'm just curious on how you all operate when you've been hurt and decide to put yourself out there again. Also, I'm in overanalyzation mode...it is what it is so don't judge me! 😋.

^ this sounds absolutely ridiculous smh lol
So much contradiction but treetrunk it...

Well at least you realized how many contradictory statements you've made, so I recommend picking a lane first. Do you want the romantic displays or don't you? You've managed to chastise both options, so I'm not sure what you're expecting from a Leo you're if you're sending out such confusing signals.

Yes the grand gestures are real and yes we will curb them after we've been hurt in the past. Why? We learn that most people don't love at our level and will often take advantage of our hearts. Practically every Leo has been hurt by someone who took us for granted. We eventually learn to hold back and wait for a partner who can consistently reciprocate our emotions. It's not about being broken, it's about learning from past missteps.

Ask any Leo (especially the men) about our past romantic displays and you'll probably be shocked. Then ask how that particular relationship went/ended. Leos hate being disappointed and often we find ourselves in that frame of mind when are actions aren't appreciated.

Leos are also known to be open and somewhat gullible romantics until we learn how to protect that side of ourselves. We have to learn to be skeptical, often having a more benevolent outlook on life. So we eventually learn to avoid disappointment by toning things down and focusing on those who deserve our energy most.

If you want more romantic displays from a Leo who has been burned in the past, then you'll need need to step it up on your end. Sure you can stick around and be consistent in little ways (the way most Virgos do) OR you can push things forward with romantic displays of your own. If the Leo feels that you will also make the effort for him, he'll make even more of an effort for you. click to expand

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That is the million dollar question lol. Honestly...idk what I want...I'm torn between both. I know on one hand...I'd love it but on the other hand...it would make me uncomfortable because I'm not use to stuff like that. Ugh... frustrating and I can only imagine how I come across.

Oh I know (regarding my broken comment). I just like to crack jokes but what you said makes perfect sense and a long the lines of what I thought and how I feel to an extent.

Can you elaborate on the virgo comment?

Can you give examples of romantic displays that you would like to receive from a woman... especially when it's only been month of seeing them?

I did tell him that I kinda missed him yesterday (I throw in the "kinda" so it will be a soft blow to my ego if negatively received lol)...even though we seen each other the day before. His response was "oh yeah?" And he became a little more textier (not sure if that's a word lol). It's not much.. but it is for me. Baby steps I guess lol.

I do appreciate you taking the time out to answer my question...I really enjoy reading your responses to things!

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We read about all these grand romantic displays that Leo's are know for when dating/courting or when in a relationship (could be a bunch of bs...for all I know) But how do you act with someone new if you've been hurt multiple times before by others? Do you tend to curb those displays because you are more guarded? Is it because you are half in and half out...like just killing time till someone worth those displays comes along? Like you can like someone, think they are cool and all but not feeling that romantic spark so you make sure not to give any mix signals etc.

I think the Leo I'm dating (a little over a month) is broken and my Leo moon is craving displays of something 😂 😋.

Naw, really is too soon for all of that and a big part of me is glad that he doesn't seem like the type (anymore) as I tend to find it fake like or not genuine but the little part (I blame my moon) is like hmm...wth man.

Anyway, he recently told me that he used to get his ex wife flowers every Friday...like from the beginning before they were married up until the end (together 12 yrs married for only two of those years.. divorced 3 yrs ago). The virgo in me is like damn...that's a lot of money down the drain but then on the flip side...my moon is like...yes, I want all the flowers...where are they?! lol (I'm not even a flower person lol). So then he tells me about how each relationship has left a little thicker scar on his heart. Which is understandable...it happens to most of us.

So really I'm just curious on how you all operate when you've been hurt and decide to put yourself out there again. Also, I'm in overanalyzation mode...it is what it is so don't judge me! 😋.

^ this sounds absolutely ridiculous smh lol
So much contradiction but treetrunk it...

Well at least you realized how many contradictory statements you've made, so I recommend picking a lane first. Do you want the romantic displays or don't you? You've managed to chastise both options, so I'm not sure what you're expecting from a Leo you're if you're sending out such confusing signals.

Yes the grand gestures are real and yes we will curb them after we've been hurt in the past. Why? We learn that most people don't love at our level and will often take advantage of our hearts. Practically every Leo has been hurt by someone who took us for granted. We eventually learn to hold back and wait for a partner who can consistently reciprocate our emotions. It's not about being broken, it's about learning from past missteps.

Ask any Leo (especially the men) about our past romantic displays and you'll probably be shocked. Then ask how that particular relationship went/ended. Leos hate being disappointed and often we find ourselves in that frame of mind when are actions aren't appreciated.

Leos are also known to be open and somewhat gullible romantics until we learn how to protect that side of ourselves. We have to learn to be skeptical, often having a more benevolent outlook on life. So we eventually learn to avoid disappointment by toning things down and focusing on those who deserve our energy most.

If you want more romantic displays from a Leo who has been burned in the past, then you'll need need to step it up on your end. Sure you can stick around and be consistent in little ways (the way most Virgos do) OR you can push things forward with romantic displays of your own. If the Leo feels that you will also make the effort for him, he'll make even more of an effort for you. click to expand

That is the million dollar question lol. Honestly...idk what I want...I'm torn between both. I know on one hand...I'd love it but on the other hand...it would make me uncomfortable because I'm not use to stuff like that. Ugh... frustrating and I can only imagine how I come across.

Oh I know (regarding my broken comment). I just like to crack jokes but what you said makes perfect sense and a long the lines of what I thought and how I feel to an extent.

Can you elaborate on the virgo comment?
Can you give examples of romantic displays that you would like to receive from a woman... especially when it's only been month of seeing them?

I did tell him that I kinda missed him yesterday (I throw in the "kinda" so it will be a soft blow to my ego if negatively received lol)...even though we seen each other the day before. His response was "oh yeah?" And he became a little more textier (not sure if that's a word lol). It's not much.. but it is for me. Baby steps I guess lol.

I do appreciate you taking the time out to answer my question...I really enjoy reading your responses to things! click to expand

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Well if you want to make this whole thing easy, you'll need to do a few things:

1. Decide what you want. There is nothing more frustrating to a Leo than a partner who can't be clear and direct. Choose what you want and stick with it when it comes to Leos. Indecisive or flakey behavior will lose our respect fairly quickly. We can't respect people who don't understand their own minds. So choose if you want romance or not. Hint: Leo is a romantic sign, so choosing an unromantic path will only make things more difficult. Leo is also a fixed sign, so there's only one real answer here.

2. Understand that the Virgo/Leo dynamic can be a tricky one. From a Leo perspective Virgos make great friends. I have several Virgo friends. In romance though, we feel that Virgos are both too slow and/or too insecure to progress a relationship organically. Virgos, like Leos, need partners who are consistent. However Leos also need some level of passion/action for us to invest in a person. We need emotional and physical intimacy to truly invest.

Since Virgos can spend a lot of time overanalyzing and critiquing a potential partnership, the Leo may become bored or frustrated from the apparent lack of movement. By the time the Virgo comes around the Leo may have already left. This is also because Leos are both proud and keenly aware of situations where our emotions may be manipulated. So if you're dealing with a Leo don't pull back expecting us to react. If a Leo senses that a situation is more trouble that it's worth, we'll cut our losses.

3. To answer your question, be direct. Do something for him that isn't something mundane. Leos like to show that we care for our partners. So show him that you care. Also tell him. Leos can be very vocal and appreciate partners who are as equally vocal as we are (or even more so). A partner who isn't afraid to show us that they care is a huge turn on for us. This type of partner will win us over every time (as long s we're interested of course).

Case in point, when you said that you "kinda" missed him yesterday the Leo started talking to you more. It's just simple math, 2+2=4. I understand that other signs do not operate this way and may resort to hot/cold games in love. Leos are busy people with big hearts, we'd rather not waste time on the back and forth. The only time you see a lion in the wild back off is when it's being attacked or chased off by a threat. Otherwise a lion is always (slowly) progressing forward when it's locked onto something. Only when it knows that it can win will it pounce.

4. Drop your ego. Holding back because of your ego will not work. You can't "out-ego" a Leo. If you want to be with a Leo, you will need to lower your guard. While your "kinda" statement yielded a positive result, you'll want to be more direct than that. "Kinda" implies that you're not 100% into him. Leos like people who are 100% into us. Basically you're only stepping on your own toes by making a non-committal statement like that. A Leo will not push forward until we know that you'll reciprocate our advances totally. So drop the act.

@chuckcem

I talked to him about it and yep, that's why he is holding back. He said he tends to jump all in and it's only ever burned him and now he just wants someone to prove to him it's all worth it (not so much in a ego driven way...I understand exactly what he's talking about). He said this is different, he's not use to calm...hes used to chaos. He said he likes where and how things are going. But also wonders why I'm not fawning over him like the others have in the past. He also has a aqua moon...which I can see the inner struggle with that. We seem to be able to read each other pretty well though...things we noticed about each other have been spot on and we're talking deep stuff not superficial bs.

1. You are absolutely correct. Something I need to work on and figure out.

2. Yeah...I've read the many stories that the Leo/Virgo relationship tends not to fare well due to the many differences. I think I might have an advantage though...seeing as I have a leo moon, Venus and Mars? I still am slow moving though...but being around him more and more...he's seems to be pulling out my leo bits and trying to push my sun tendencies to the back. I do like this...it's a nice change and hopefully it can help keep the criticism and the back and forth down to a minimum or eliminate it completely (doubtful but hey you never know lol).

3. I've done some little things and a big thing to show that. The other week, he asked if he could bring his son over so that I could meet him. I told him of course and made sure that his son would be comfortable...I bought pizza and had his sons favorite soda...to me this was all a little too soon but despite that...I wanted him to feel ok in his decision. Another time...he was at a party that got pretty out of hand...I basically white knighting him and drove to pick him up....which now looking at it...he could of ask anyone that he knows to do that...so I feel like he was testing to see how far I would go (idk though...not sure if Leo's test or not). Me being a Virgo...it's just automatic to help. But also I'm now looking to see if this is going to become a pattern with him (so far it's just been this one time)...which I will not like. I did tell him again that I missed him without the "kinda"...so my baby steps are progressing lol.

He invited me over the weekend to his family BBQ...and his comments of him liking how things are going/moving are all pretty good signs I think....so I'll just have to get over the romantic gestures untill he is ready to do so.

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@chuckcem

I talked to him about it and yep, that's why he is holding back. He said he tends to jump all in and it's only ever burned him and now he just wants someone to prove to him it's all worth it (not so much in a ego driven way...I understand exactly what he's talking about). He said this is different, he's not use to calm...hes used to chaos. He said he likes where and how things are going. But also wonders why I'm not fawning over him like the others have in the past. He also has a aqua moon...which I can see the inner struggle with that. We seem to be able to read each other pretty well though...things we noticed about each other have been spot on and we're talking deep stuff not superficial bs.

1. You are absolutely correct. Something I need to work on and figure out.

2. Yeah...I've read the many stories that the Leo/Virgo relationship tends not to fare well due to the many differences. I think I might have an advantage though...seeing as I have a leo moon, Venus and Mars? I still am slow moving though...but being around him more and more...he's seems to be pulling out my leo bits and trying to push my sun tendencies to the back. I do like this...it's a nice change and hopefully it can help keep the criticism and the back and forth down to a minimum or eliminate it completely (doubtful but hey you never know lol).

3. I've done some little things and a big thing to show that. The other week, he asked if he could bring his son over so that I could meet him. I told him of course and made sure that his son would be comfortable...I bought pizza and had his sons favorite soda...to me this was all a little too soon but despite that...I wanted him to feel ok in his decision. Another time...he was at a party that got pretty out of hand...I basically white knighting him and drove to pick him up....which now looking at it...he could of ask anyone that he knows to do that...so I feel like he was testing to see how far I would go (idk though...not sure if Leo's test or not). Me being a Virgo...it's just automatic to help. But also I'm now looking to see if this is going to become a pattern with him (so far it's just been this one time)...which I will not like. I did tell him again that I missed him without the "kinda"...so my baby steps are progressing lol.

He invited me over the weekend to his family BBQ...and his comments of him liking how things are going/moving are all pretty good signs I think....so I'll just have to get over the romantic gestures untill he is ready to do so.

So just know those are all good things that you did. Again, listen to what the Leo is saying. He basically wants to know that the person who claims to care about him will actually reciprocate. This is common with Leos. We Leos deal with so many people who take us for granted, it's almost a bad cliche. This of course becomes exhausting, so we eventually only focus on people who focus on us.

A Leo won't necessarily test you, but we will observe how you act in certain situations (so I guess that can be seen as a test). We typically live in the moment, so we won't have a scenario pre-planned. However we will throw situations your way to see how you handle it. These are normally everyday scenarios that we have to handle ourselves.

For example your interaction with his son was a good thing for him to see. Also as you've already figured out, when you white knighted the Leo and picked him up after a party, he could've figured out an alternate route home. More than likely the Leo has been placed in that position countless times and wanted to see if someone would do that for him. Though this could have been a test, he may have actually reached out to you because he trusts you. It's possible he doesn't trust the friends he was with the same way that he trusts you. So unless this becomes a pattern with him, I wouldn't look into it too much.

Also Leos won't bring you around our close friends and family when we don't like a person. Again he's seeing how you interact with the people closest to him and vice versa. In a way he's showing you off as well. So yes this all good.

Hey Chuckcem,

I thought that I have sent private messaged to you couple of days ago. Am I sending wrong place? 🤦‍♀️

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Hey Chuckcem,
I thought that I have sent private messaged to you couple of days ago. Am I sending wrong place? 🤦‍♀️

Sure you can, it seems I haven't received notifications for the last few private messages I've received, so I'm just now seeing this.

I'm a very independent Libra woman and a couple of weeks ago I was looking for someone to clip my horses .... a Leo man responded to me on FB and I hired him to clip 2 horses 3 weeks later... strangly enough in the meantime we began to chat with eachother and there was this enormous Click !!! and yes I began to get butterflies..... we ended up flirting big time with eachother and when I wasn't wishing him a goodmorning ... he was texting me... ending up Always wishing eachother sweet dreams before ending the day.... and even if he currently has a full agenda of work he always responds within 5 min even telling me its ok to disturb him while at work..... then the day of clipping came and I just wished he swept me off my feet.... but he acted soo cold and businesslike ... so I also put on this business face.... we had a great time but when he left he just gave me a cold handshake and it threw me completely of balance .... didn't he like me seeying me in reality — Are Leo men soo superficial that they only fall for a top model kind of woman —? We are still in contact... when I send him a message he tells me all about his normal day activities ( working hard and I did tell him that I think it is quite admirable).... we still wish eachother goodmorning and goodnight but I don't dare to flirt anymore —? Did he reject me —? so plse is there any Leo man out there that can explain this to me please.... just feel kind of helpless here.....

Meh...I was hoping I wouldn't have to ask anymore questions but here I am... Lol

What makes you all become distant? I know this is not really Leo specific but man specific lol.

So here is the scenario...

Leo has been pretty busy with work (working a lot of overtime and now mandatory Saturdays for this month) and now my schedule has changed and I'm not working the long hours that I was but I totally get what he's dealing with. That aside...he's still been pretty consistent in seeing me etc. Ok that's been great...no complaints.

So Friday last week rolls around and things are still good. We didn't talk all weekend...again that is fine plus I was giving him some space to be with his family and have his day. I debated all day Sunday to wish him a happy father's day and opted out but I bought him a card (probably weird to do so but it is what it is and he doesn't know that I did). I figured I'd hear from him sometime Monday but didn't until I reached out and stated I hoped he had a good day etc. Nothing. Ok...I give it a couple hours and I'm like...something up/wrong? About 45 mins later (not unusual) I get the "no nothing is up...I'll talk to you tomorrow...thanks for the father's day wishes" text. 🤔🤔 Seems kinda cold and indifferent to me?! So me being me...I flat out say this plus I'm like dude if you're done here then just tell me now. (I don't like these hot and cold games...or games in general...just be straight with me. I'm an adult). I of course don't hear anything...I wasn't expecting it really. Well today...nothing. Again it's fine...I don't need to talk to him all the time but I can't help the strange vibe all the sudden.

So what could be the deal here? Is he hurt cause I didn't wish him a happy father's day? I can't imagine that making someone get distant.

I mean I'd be upset but this is a bit much. I imagine work is exhausting him but it's kinda been like this for a while now and that never stopped him and it sure as shit didn't stop him from pestering me about working a lot. I guess there is a possibility that he changed his mind about me...ok fair enough but tell me at least. He did tell me he tends to have moments where he just doesn't want to talk to anyone (this was actually fairly recent)...and that would include the person he is dating... possibly one of the moments?...maybe seeing how I handle it too? Idk...I'm probably reaching now lol.

I'm not a needy, clingy person...so he'll get whatever "space" bs he wants...I just can't guarantee I'll be around when he decides I'm cool enough to hang with...this stuff pisses me off more than anything but I'm trying to not be "me" here and look at things in another light...

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Posted by Chuckcem
I feel as if this post has been done before...Heck I may have done one a year ago. There seem to be a lot of questions regarding Leos (a lot about Leo Men too). So if you don't feel like posting a new topic but just want to pick a Leo's brain, feel free. Fellow Leos please chime in as well.

Here are some brainstorming questions to get the ball rolling. Feel free to answer:

What is the most you've spent on a first date? (Because we love our grand gestures don't we?)

What is your favorite sexual position? (Because...yeah...)

What is the largest number of suitors or romantic prospects you've had at any one time?

Have you ever cheated on someone? (Only the bold should answer this one)

What was your favorite subject in school?

why do you guys lie so much? to hide the faults in your egotistical pride?

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Everyone lies. That has nothing to do with a person's zodiac sign.

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Posted by Chuckcem
I feel as if this post has been done before...Heck I may have done one a year ago. There seem to be a lot of questions regarding Leos (a lot about Leo Men too). So if you don't feel like posting a new topic but just want to pick a Leo's brain, feel free. Fellow Leos please chime in as well.

Here are some brainstorming questions to get the ball rolling. Feel free to answer:

What is the most you've spent on a first date? (Because we love our grand gestures don't we?)

What is your favorite sexual position? (Because...yeah...)

What is the largest number of suitors or romantic prospects you've had at any one time?

Have you ever cheated on someone? (Only the bold should answer this one)

What was your favorite subject in school?

why do you guys lie so much? to hide the faults in your egotistical pride?

Everyone lies. That has nothing to do with a person's zodiac sign.

most of my leos are liars, or str8 up bullbutterters thou my experience

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I don't know you personally, but do you tend to be sensitive or emotional?

Leos might lie to avoid emotional turmoil in others, and might do it for the sake of ones stability.

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Posted by Chuckcem
I feel as if this post has been done before...Heck I may have done one a year ago. There seem to be a lot of questions regarding Leos (a lot about Leo Men too). So if you don't feel like posting a new topic but just want to pick a Leo's brain, feel free. Fellow Leos please chime in as well.

Here are some brainstorming questions to get the ball rolling. Feel free to answer:

What is the most you've spent on a first date? (Because we love our grand gestures don't we?)

What is your favorite sexual position? (Because...yeah...)

What is the largest number of suitors or romantic prospects you've had at any one time?

Have you ever cheated on someone? (Only the bold should answer this one)

What was your favorite subject in school?

why do you guys lie so much? to hide the faults in your egotistical pride?

Everyone lies. That has nothing to do with a person's zodiac sign.

most of my leos are liars, or str8 up bullbutterters thou my experience

I don't know you personally, but do you tend to be sensitive or emotional?

Leos might lie to avoid emotional turmoil in others, and might do it for the sake of ones stability.

sure am, but i can take a punch andi dont think they do it for me, but moreso because they are too prideful and not willing to man up to their fk ups..but my leo cousin would always lie to not let his mother down, because he fked up so much..it only made butter worst in the end

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When you think you're 100% right, then end up wrong in the end its a hard pill to swallow for some.

Some Leo's will overcome it and use flaw to become better, others will let flaw rule their life. Some Leo's become extremely successful by accepting flaws, but not accepting that to be an aspect of life in the long run. Others can't admit it, and become weak.

I've been there myself. Fucked up something so bad and felt so embarrassed I couldn't admit it was all my fault. Then I eventually learned that once you admit failure you can make a better strategy to avoid failure and embarrassment in the future.

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Posted by Fallen2Pisces

Posted by Chuckcem
I feel as if this post has been done before...Heck I may have done one a year ago. There seem to be a lot of questions regarding Leos (a lot about Leo Men too). So if you don't feel like posting a new topic but just want to pick a Leo's brain, feel free. Fellow Leos please chime in as well.

Here are some brainstorming questions to get the ball rolling. Feel free to answer:

What is the most you've spent on a first date? (Because we love our grand gestures don't we?)

What is your favorite sexual position? (Because...yeah...)

What is the largest number of suitors or romantic prospects you've had at any one time?

Have you ever cheated on someone? (Only the bold should answer this one)

What was your favorite subject in school?

why do you guys lie so much? to hide the faults in your egotistical pride?

Everyone lies. That has nothing to do with a person's zodiac sign.

most of my leos are liars, or str8 up bullbutterters thou my experience

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If you constantly find yourself around people who lie, then you should stop hanging around those people.. Again, you're making some wide sweeping generalizations about a large group of people under a particular zodiac sign. Also if Leos are liars, what's the point in asking us any questions about ourselves? Wouldn't we just lie to you?

Posted by LostinmyMind11
Meh...I was hoping I wouldn't have to ask anymore questions but here I am... Lol

What makes you all become distant? I know this is not really Leo specific but man specific lol.

So here is the scenario...
Leo has been pretty busy with work (working a lot of overtime and now mandatory Saturdays for this month) and now my schedule has changed and I'm not working the long hours that I was but I totally get what he's dealing with. That aside...he's still been pretty consistent in seeing me etc. Ok that's been great...no complaints.

So Friday last week rolls around and things are still good. We didn't talk all weekend...again that is fine plus I was giving him some space to be with his family and have his day. I debated all day Sunday to wish him a happy father's day and opted out but I bought him a card (probably weird to do so but it is what it is and he doesn't know that I did). I figured I'd hear from him sometime Monday but didn't until I reached out and stated I hoped he had a good day etc. Nothing. Ok...I give it a couple hours and I'm like...something up/wrong? About 45 mins later (not unusual) I get the "no nothing is up...I'll talk to you tomorrow...thanks for the father's day wishes" text. 🤔🤔 Seems kinda cold and indifferent to me?! So me being me...I flat out say this plus I'm like dude if you're done here then just tell me now. (I don't like these hot and cold games...or games in general...just be straight with me. I'm an adult). I of course don't hear anything...I wasn't expecting it really. Well today...nothing. Again it's fine...I don't need to talk to him all the time but I can't help the strange vibe all the sudden.

So what could be the deal here? Is he hurt cause I didn't wish him a happy father's day? I can't imagine that making someone get distant.
I mean I'd be upset but this is a bit much. I imagine work is exhausting him but it's kinda been like this for a while now and that never stopped him and it sure as butter didn't stop him from pestering me about working a lot. I guess there is a possibility that he changed his mind about me...ok fair enough but tell me at least. He did tell me he tends to have moments where he just doesn't want to talk to anyone (this was actually fairly recent)...and that would include the person he is dating... possibly one of the moments?...maybe seeing how I handle it too? Idk...I'm probably reaching now lol.

I'm not a needy, clingy person...so he'll get whatever "space" bs he wants...I just can't guarantee I'll be around when he decides I'm cool enough to hang with...this stuff pisses me off more than anything but I'm trying to not be "me" here and look at things in another light...

It seems that you're making a big deal out of nothing. It would be fine if you kept those paranoid thoughts to yourself, but blurting out all of your paranoia via text was a bad choice. Seriously, did you expect the Leo to respond to that? You say you're not clingy, but that is clingy behavior.

There's two things wrong with doing this. First you're lashing out at the Leo because you're assuming there's a problem. As you've already said the Leo has been busy. It seems obvious that the Leo has been preoccupied with his family and work. In this case, it's entirely reasonable that you wouldn't hear from the Leo for a day or two. We Leos are workaholics and we can drop everything when in work mode. You need to realize that he's got a life outside of you. If memory serves, your relationship is relatively new and not entirely official. Expect not to be a priority at this time.

Second, Leo men aren't the type to hold emotional conversation via texts. If a serious conversation needs to be had, it should be done via phone call or in person. It can be extremely annoying when someone chooses text messaging as their emotional outlet. Your emotional outburst more than likely made you appear unstable and passive aggressive. So probably he didn't respond because he didn't want to deal with the argument you were apparently trying to have (either that or he was simply too busy to respond).

One thing that can instantly kill a Virgo/Leo relationship is nagging. We Leos like our freedom to live our lives. If we tell you that we're busy, we mean it. If you start nagging us about every aspect of our lives, you eventually find yourself no longer in it. You need to stopm making assumptions and really listen to what the Leo is telling you. He already told you that he's trying to take things slow.

Also if you didn't bother telling the guy Happy Father's Day, which is probably what he'd expect his significant other to do, why are you shocked that he's not being terrible effusive with you? If he's acting hot/cold it's probably because he thinks that's what you're doing. Either that or he's just busy with his own life.

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Posted by Chuckcem

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Posted by Chuckcem
I feel as if this post has been done before...Heck I may have done one a year ago. There seem to be a lot of questions regarding Leos (a lot about Leo Men too). So if you don't feel like posting a new topic but just want to pick a Leo's brain, feel free. Fellow Leos please chime in as well.

Here are some brainstorming questions to get the ball rolling. Feel free to answer:

What is the most you've spent on a first date? (Because we love our grand gestures don't we?)

What is your favorite sexual position? (Because...yeah...)

What is the largest number of suitors or romantic prospects you've had at any one time?

Have you ever cheated on someone? (Only the bold should answer this one)

What was your favorite subject in school?

why do you guys lie so much? to hide the faults in your egotistical pride?

Everyone lies. That has nothing to do with a person's zodiac sign.

most of my leos are liars, or str8 up bullbutterters thou my experience

If you constantly find yourself around people who lie, then you should stop hanging around those people.. Again, you're making some wide sweeping generalizations about a large group of people under a particular zodiac sign. Also if Leos are liars, what's the point in asking us any questions about ourselves? Wouldn't we just lie to you?

don't get triggered bro, I was just speaking from my experiences with them. And I already cut those Leo'sfrom my life. @Soul explained it best at what i was hetting at.You're not all like that, were all not the stereotypical sign, but again I was speaking from my exp

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I simply answered your question, "why do you guys lie so much? to hide the faults in your egotistical pride?"

@Chuckcem

Idk if I would technically call it an emotional outburst per se though...maybe it came off that way...sure but here's my exact text "ouch that was kinda cold and indifferent...fair enough I guess. Hey listen if you're done here just let me know" I could have really went off and showed him my emotional side (which ain't too different than how you all are) and told him to eff off and the nine like I personally wanted too because I'm not a fan of passive aggressive crap. But the older I get the more I've learn to control that aspect instead of just jumping the gun.... I'd rather talk it out...tell me what's going on etc and I'd rather do it in person but hard to do when the person is acting indifferent to you all the sudden. We haven't had any arguments yet...so he'd be assuming that I was looking for one if that was the case which I wasn't. I just don't like to guess and wonder or overanalyze things...just be straight with me which I thought Leo's like directness and tend to be that way themselves? I'm seeing more passive aggressiveness than directness here...

Hey I get the workaholic bit....I was working from 830-9am-12 or 1am M-F since we met. I get busy but again that's never stopped him or I from reaching out. Nobody is ever that busy...I don't care what anyone says...dropping a "hey how are you...how's your day going" text takes two secs but again I get it and never pushed anything. And here lately we've been talking after work which was when I sent my text. Like I said before...he has been still consistent in seeing me....its been like 4-5 times a week now. Also he has his kid every other weekend...so his kid isn't with him right now (as far as I know...but that's usually the deal).

Ha...nagging, yes Virgos can nag but damn you Leo's are pretty good at it yourselves. If any nagging has been done so far...it's been from him not me. "When you gonna stop working so late?", "Why don't you ever text me first", etc. I get the freedom thing...I'm all fire and he's pretty much all air. I'm the last person to stiffel someone else... because I crave my freedom and I am fine with taking things slow as we both discussed. He's also told me that he likes that I don't pressure him. Sometimes it seems to me though that he doesn't know what he wants either...he's seems to go back and forth (I'm guilty of it too but trying to take your advice from before) and we might be mirroring each other in that?..idk).

I take full responsibility for not telling him Happy Father's Day...I did mess up here. Why I didn't just tell him...idk, really stupid on my part. I honestly didn't want to bother him and let him focus on his kid etc....but I still should of said something. This is really the only reason that makes sense of him being indifferent in that short of time. I know I would be upset so he has every right to be. There are no excuses and I'm beating myself up because of it. I will probably just mail his card to him....cause now things are going to be too weird the longer the silence goes on.

What's my best bet here? ...should I do nothing and wait to see if he reaches out or just apologize (which I'd rather do in person tbh)? (I know you can't give me an exact as everyone is different etc).

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@Chuckcem

Idk if I would technically call it an emotional outburst per se though...maybe it came off that way...sure but here's my exact text "ouch that was kinda cold and indifferent...fair enough I guess. Hey listen if you're done here just let me know" I could have really went off and showed him my emotional side (which ain't too different than how you all are) and told him to eff off and the nine like I personally wanted too because I'm not a fan of passive aggressive crap. But the older I get the more I've learn to control that aspect instead of just jumping the gun.... I'd rather talk it out...tell me what's going on etc and I'd rather do it in person but hard to do when the person is acting indifferent to you all the sudden. We haven't had any arguments yet...so he'd be assuming that I was looking for one if that was the case which I wasn't. I just don't like to guess and wonder or overanalyze things...just be straight with me which I thought Leo's like directness and tend to be that way themselves? I'm seeing more passive aggressiveness than directness here...

Hey I get the workaholic bit....I was working from 830-9am-12 or 1am M-F since we met. I get busy but again that's never stopped him or I from reaching out. Nobody is ever that busy...I don't care what anyone says...dropping a "hey how are you...how's your day going" text takes two secs but again I get it and never pushed anything. And here lately we've been talking after work which was when I sent my text. Like I said before...he has been still consistent in seeing me....its been like 4-5 times a week now. Also he has his kid every other weekend...so his kid isn't with him right now (as far as I know...but that's usually the deal).

Ha...nagging, yes Virgos can nag but damn you Leo's are pretty good at it yourselves. If any nagging has been done so far...it's been from him not me. "When you gonna stop working so late?", "Why don't you ever text me first", etc. I get the freedom thing...I'm all fire and he's pretty much all air. I'm the last person to stiffel someone else... because I crave my freedom and I am fine with taking things slow as we both discussed. He's also told me that he likes that I don't pressure him. Sometimes it seems to me though that he doesn't know what he wants either...he's seems to go back and forth (I'm guilty of it too but trying to take your advice from before) and we might be mirroring each other in that?..idk).

I take full responsibility for not telling him Happy Father's Day...I did mess up here. Why I didn't just tell him...idk, really stupid on my part. I honestly didn't want to bother him and let him focus on his kid etc....but I still should of said something. This is really the only reason that makes sense of him being indifferent in that short of time. I know I would be upset so he has every right to be. There are no excuses and I'm beating myself up because of it. I will probably just mail his card to him....cause now things are going to be too weird the longer the silence goes on.

What's my best bet here? ...should I do nothing and wait to see if he reaches out or just apologize (which I'd rather do in person tbh)? (I know you can't give me an exact as everyone is different etc).

As I mentioned, the nature of the text assumed there was a problem in the first place. If the Leo didn't actually have an issue, your text would seem to have come completely out of nowhere. This simply isn't a good look if there's no real issue. To a Leo it would feel like you were creating a problem where one doesn't exist.

One thing to know is that even if a Leo starts by texting a lot, there's a good chance it will eventually slow down. In the beginning we text because we know people have become so reliant on it. Regardless it's not our communication method of choice because miscommunication via text is so frequent. I suggest getting in the habit of setting up times to speak with each other on the phone (or Skype). You'll probably find the Leo is easier to communicate with when using more personable methods.

I'd give it a day or so and then reach out to him. While it's possible that the Father's Day thing annoyed him, I think it's more likely that he's simply in work mode. Leo work mode is a departure from a Leo's normal behavior and is often considered to be one of the few times a Leo will "ghost". We may do this for a few days, but it generally doesn't last long.

Leos go into work mode when we have something substantial that's stressing us out. At this time a Leo may become less communicative. We do this because we want to focus on the issue while not burdening other people with our problems. Leo males are also notorious for holding back until we feel the situation is under our control. Part of this is because of pride and part of this is because we have a hard time opening up emotionally (especially when we've been hurt in the past). So we choose to handle our issues on our own.

At this point you'll also need to figure out what exactly it is you want from the Leo. If you want to take things slow, then know that you may not get a text every single day. In fact until you two are officially together, expect a lapse in communucation from time to time. If you want something more consistent/committed, then speak up and let him know. From what you've written, while you say you're fine with taking things slow, it really sounds like you want something more committed. At least that's my take on it.

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Posted by LostinmyMind11
@Chuckcem

Idk if I would technically call it an emotional outburst per se though...maybe it came off that way...sure but here's my exact text "ouch that was kinda cold and indifferent...fair enough I guess. Hey listen if you're done here just let me know" I could have really went off and showed him my emotional side (which ain't too different than how you all are) and told him to eff off and the nine like I personally wanted too because I'm not a fan of passive aggressive crap. But the older I get the more I've learn to control that aspect instead of just jumping the gun.... I'd rather talk it out...tell me what's going on etc and I'd rather do it in person but hard to do when the person is acting indifferent to you all the sudden. We haven't had any arguments yet...so he'd be assuming that I was looking for one if that was the case which I wasn't. I just don't like to guess and wonder or overanalyze things...just be straight with me which I thought Leo's like directness and tend to be that way themselves? I'm seeing more passive aggressiveness than directness here...

Hey I get the workaholic bit....I was working from 830-9am-12 or 1am M-F since we met. I get busy but again that's never stopped him or I from reaching out. Nobody is ever that busy...I don't care what anyone says...dropping a "hey how are you...how's your day going" text takes two secs but again I get it and never pushed anything. And here lately we've been talking after work which was when I sent my text. Like I said before...he has been still consistent in seeing me....its been like 4-5 times a week now. Also he has his kid every other weekend...so his kid isn't with him right now (as far as I know...but that's usually the deal).

Ha...nagging, yes Virgos can nag but damn you Leo's are pretty good at it yourselves. If any nagging has been done so far...it's been from him not me. "When you gonna stop working so late?", "Why don't you ever text me first", etc. I get the freedom thing...I'm all fire and he's pretty much all air. I'm the last person to stiffel someone else... because I crave my freedom and I am fine with taking things slow as we both discussed. He's also told me that he likes that I don't pressure him. Sometimes it seems to me though that he doesn't know what he wants either...he's seems to go back and forth (I'm guilty of it too but trying to take your advice from before) and we might be mirroring each other in that?..idk).

I take full responsibility for not telling him Happy Father's Day...I did mess up here. Why I didn't just tell him...idk, really stupid on my part. I honestly didn't want to bother him and let him focus on his kid etc....but I still should of said something. This is really the only reason that makes sense of him being indifferent in that short of time. I know I would be upset so he has every right to be. There are no excuses and I'm beating myself up because of it. I will probably just mail his card to him....cause now things are going to be too weird the longer the silence goes on.

What's my best bet here? ...should I do nothing and wait to see if he reaches out or just apologize (which I'd rather do in person tbh)? (I know you can't give me an exact as everyone is different etc).

As I mentioned, the nature of the text assumed there was a problem in the first place. If the Leo didn't actually have an issue, your text would seem to have come completely out of nowhere. This simply isn't a good look if there's no real issue. To a Leo it would feel like you were creating a problem where one doesn't exist.

One thing to know is that even if a Leo starts by texting a lot, there's a good chance it will eventually slow down. In the beginning we text because we know people have become so reliant on it. Regardless it's not our communication method of choice because miscommunication via text is so frequent. I suggest getting in the habit of setting up times to speak with each other on the phone (or Skype). You'll probably find the Leo is easier to communicate with when using more personable methods.

I'd give it a day or so and then reach out to him. While it's possible that the Father's Day thing annoyed him, I think it's more likely that he's simply in work mode. Leo work mode is a departure from a Leo's normal behavior and is often considered to be one of the few times a Leo will "ghost". We may do this for a few days, but it generally doesn't last long.

Leos go into work mode when we have something substantial that's stressing us out. At this time a Leo may become less communicative. We do this because we want to focus on the issue while not burdening other people with our problems. Leo males are also notorious for holding back until we feel the situation is under our control. Part of this is because of pride and part of this is because we have a hard time opening up emotionally (especially when we've been hurt in the past). So we choose to handle our issues on our own.

At this point you'll also need to figure out what exactly it is you want from the Leo. If you want to take things slow, then know that you may not get a text every single day. In fact until you two are officially together, expect a lapse in communucation from time to time. If you want something more consistent/committed, then speak up and let him know. From what you've written, while you say you're fine with taking things slow, it really sounds like you want something more committed. At least that's my take on it.

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I get what you mean but wouldn't you say that if there were no problems to begin with then why act cold and indifferent to where it makes one assume something is up...

Double edge sword I guess.

I'm perfectly ok with the texting deal...we don't text all day long anyway. A couple texts and that about it...never anything overly personal, deep etc. We tend to have those talks in person. Oddly...he has been mentioning calling though but he has never actually done so...can't during work and kinda pointless if we are together but he has mentioned it lately.

You are probably right. I know he is exhausted from work....but my spidy senses tell me something happened over the weekend (I don't think with someone else but who knows). Or he is in his mood where he doesn't talk to anyone that he has mentioned. Still not cool...just be straight up...I've told him from the get go to just let me know and don't be a douche about things. Don't hurt me I don't hurt you kinda deal... actually that was what was said by him lol. (Granted things don't always work that way).

We kinda had that talk...like it came up when talking about other things. It was decided to be exclusive but take things slowly. This is where I got the back and forth notion from him though and I told him again that I am relationship person but not in a rush and want to build some type of foundation....I don't do the casual, hookups etc. This was general talk and not necessarily talking about him or us and I made that clear. That's when he said he likes and feels like I'm not the type to pressure him. I personally liked the way things were going too and told him so.

He also mentioned that he wants me to trust him. I told him so far he hasnt given me a reason not too but trust is earned. Which he agreed. But for someone who wants me to trust them...this is definitely not the way to go about it.

I just didn't get this kinda vibe from him...and this is why I take things slow...you never truly know about people. I'm half and half on reaching out to test the waters because he knows where I'm at and how to reach me. It's always been my understanding and experience that if a guy digs you....he tends to not go far if anywhere at all. So this may be the whole "he's just not that into you" deal. Bummer...

Posted by LostinmyMind11 I get what you mean but wouldn't you say that if there were no problems to begin with then why act cold and indifferent to where it makes one assume something is up...
Double edge sword I guess.

I'm perfectly ok with the texting deal...we don't text all day long anyway. A couple texts and that about it...never anything overly personal, deep etc. We tend to have those talks in person. Oddly...he has been mentioning calling though but he has never actually done so...can't during work and kinda pointless if we are together but he has mentioned it lately.

You are probably right. I know he is exhausted from work....but my spidy senses tell me something happened over the weekend (I don't think with someone else but who knows). Or he is in his mood where he doesn't talk to anyone that he has mentioned. Still not cool...just be straight up...I've told him from the get go to just let me know and don't be a douche about things. Don't hurt me I don't hurt you kinda deal... actually that was what was said by him lol. (Granted things don't always work that way).

We kinda had that talk...like it came up when talking about other things. It was decided to be exclusive but take things slowly. This is where I got the back and forth notion from him though and I told him again that I am relationship person but not in a rush and want to build some type of foundation....I don't do the casual, hookups etc. This was general talk and not necessarily talking about him or us and I made that clear. That's when he said he likes and feels like I'm not the type to pressure him. I personally liked the way things were going too and told him so.

He also mentioned that he wants me to trust him. I told him so far he hasnt given me a reason not too but trust is earned. Which he agreed. But for someone who wants me to trust them...this is definitely not the way to go about it.

I just didn't get this kinda vibe from him...and this is why I take things slow...you never truly know about people. I'm half and half on reaching out to test the waters because he knows where I'm at and how to reach me. It's always been my understanding and experience that if a guy digs you....he tends to not go far if anywhere at all. So this may be the whole "he's just not that into you" deal. Bummer...

Just letting you know once you get into the habit of calling one another, expect the texting to drop off altogether. Even a text here and there seems unnecessary to a Leo man when we can call you instead. Why? We don't view texting as a solid form of communication. We'll do it for a while in order to get to know a person (and when other options aren't available), but eventually we'll find a way to cut it out altogether. This is why your Leo has hinted at having more phone calls with you. It's a way for him to say, "Ok playtime is over, let's get real."

As a Leo man myself, it is my belief that people overuse and misuse texts as a crutch. For me personally checking in once or twice a day via text is simply unnecessary when I know I'm going to talk to the person later, which I prefer. For me personally texting is only necessary when sending short bursts of pertinent information (dates, times, directions, etc), but not as a way to say "Hi", convey emotion, or have a full conversation. Those messages are far more meaningful in an actual phone conversation where context isn't so easily lost.

The reason why your Leo appears to be acting cold (assuming he isn't upset about anything) is that he's focused on something else. It really has nothing to do with you, but you're assuming that it does. Leos are generally warm people, but we do have our own issues. So the moment we recoil into ourselves, people tend to freak out and assume the worst. Mind you, everyone else can act hot/cold all day and that's "normal" for them. Yet the moment a Leo takes a step back to work out something, the sky is falling.

Granted Leos are proud and therefore not the best at expressing when we're hurt, scared, stressed etc. Again we're not the best at expressing moments of fear and weakness, it's just not our thing. If something is wrong with a Leo, we'll typically clam up and handle it. This is especially true for men in generally and doubly true for Leo men. So understand that only by getting to know the Leo man will he begin opening up to you. However he won't open up if he thinks you can't handle your own emotions. We Leos like confident partners, not insecure ones.

It's also possible that something happened over the weekend. Maybe he had some friction with his ex and their child on Father's Day. If that's the case, then its far less likely he'll open up to you about it. However until you know there's an issue, you can't really act on anything. Becoming suspicious about the Leo at this time won't really help you, especially if there's no issue in the first place.

Also know that Leo workaholism is more akin to that of a Taurus. Like Taurus, Leos can be very stubborn which means we can shut down when we have to focus on something important. It at can be nearly impossible to deter us when we're like this. It's also the reason why Leos tend to be successful. When people complain that everything seems to be handed to a Leo, I always inform them that Leos are actually extremely hard workers. We just tend to keep to ourselves during that process. We don't necessarily close off everyone when we do this, but unfortunately it seems you haven't grown close enough to this Leo for him to open up to you fully. So you'll need to be patient.

Also to dispel another myth, not all men will be constantly available when we like you. If a man is busy with life and career, he may have moments of drop off. This whole concept that a man must always chase when we like a woman creates a lot of confusion. It is the reason a lot of women wind up with needy guys and players. Clingy guys will chase all day and players will chase for the fun of it. However if you are looking for a guy who is emotionally stable, expect him to have a life outside of you. A guy who is busy in his own life will initiate contact and communicate as much as he can when he can. This means that until you two are in a serious committed relationship, expect some drop off every now and then. The good thing is if a Leo man like you, he won't go too far.

@Chuckcem

Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it!

I am def not getting back together or whatever with the Leo (possibly just as friends but nothing more than that)...but I'm curious to get some perspective on this:

When you feel guilty about something...is it typical for you to tell the other person...like completely swallow your pride? (Being basically part leo myself lol...I'd want to but idk if I could).

Yes, the leo reached out and apologized... multiple times. Which honestly...I was pretty shocked that he did. My letter really tore him up...as it should with anyone who has a heart. He apparently ended it with the "gf" (said he wasn't reaching out because of that...sure lol)...claims I was on his mind and he told her that. I told him I'm not an option...I won't ever be someones option. He said he knows and that he's sorry. Who knows if true... probably bs...doesn't really matter though. Anyway, told me he realized a bunch of stuff...said I'm amazing, so caring and understanding...when he had a bad day I was there for him...he loved me for that. Then said he loved spending time with me, the fact his kid asked to come over here was a big thing and his grandma absolutely loved me etc. And if I don't want to talk or see him again ...he understands. Yeah yeah yeah...if that was true then he wouldn't have did me dirty like he did. Plus if true...there would be action and there isn't ...just fluff words.

I flat out asked him what he wanted from me... forgiveness? Fine I forgive you...happy now? (I don't forgive him lol...but I feel like he's just trying to ease his guilt)...he said he's done some messed up things and never felt bad for it but he really felt bad for the way he did me. I said ok...you told me...I thanked you for the apology so is that it then? He then asked me "huh". I said "you just wanted me to know...is that all?". He said he didn't say that (idk what that means). I said...then what do you want here? He said "idk right now...sleep"

I mean props for him apologizing but what's the end game here exactly...like is he just trying to ease his guilty conscious? Does he really think I'd give him a second chance? I don't get it...

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I am def not getting back together or whatever with the Leo (possibly just as friends but nothing more than that)...but I'm curious to get some perspective on this:

When you feel guilty about something...is it typical for you to tell the other person...like completely swallow your pride? (Being basically part leo myself lol...I'd want to but idk if I could).

Yes, the leo reached out and apologized... multiple times. Which honestly...I was pretty shocked that he did. My letter really tore him up...as it should with anyone who has a heart. He apparently ended it with the "gf" (said he wasn't reaching out because of that...sure lol)...claims I was on his mind and he told her that. I told him I'm not an option...I won't ever be someones option. He said he knows and that he's sorry. Who knows if true... probably bs...doesn't really matter though. Anyway, told me he realized a bunch of stuff...said I'm amazing, so caring and understanding...when he had a bad day I was there for him...he loved me for that. Then said he loved spending time with me, the fact his kid asked to come over here was a big thing and his grandma absolutely loved me etc. And if I don't want to talk or see him again ...he understands. Yeah yeah yeah...if that was true then he wouldn't have did me dirty like he did. Plus if true...there would be action and there isn't ...just fluff words.

I flat out asked him what he wanted from me... forgiveness? Fine I forgive you...happy now? (I don't forgive him lol...but I feel like he's just trying to ease his guilt)...he said he's done some messed up things and never felt bad for it but he really felt bad for the way he did me. I said ok...you told me...I thanked you for the apology so is that it then? He then asked me "huh". I said "you just wanted me to know...is that all?". He said he didn't say that (idk what that means). I said...then what do you want here? He said "idk right now...sleep"

I mean props for him apologizing but what's the end game here exactly...like is he just trying to ease his guilty conscious? Does he really think I'd give him a second chance? I don't get it...

Well a few things. First don't let your curiosity or desire for answers drive you to spend too much time thinking about this guy. Sometimes people just aren't that deep. This guy wanted to have his cake and eat it too, that's all. He agreed to be exclusive with you and got a gilfriend on the side right after. If he hadn't actually agree to exclusivity with you, then this would be a different story (though still messed up). He did agree though, so no you know his true character.

Also if you're going to forgive someone, do it if you actually mean it. The act of forgiveness is for you, not him. Forgive him so that you can put him behind you and move on, not so that it makes him feel better. Once you forgive someone, there's no need to continue pondering on it. It doesn't matter how he feels, he made his bed and now he must lie in it.

Whether he recognizes the error of his ways is of no consequence. Never allow yourself to be someone's option or plaything. The best route to take is always one of self respect. Aside from physical beauty, that's what usually attracts people. The Leo realizes he made the wrong decision and is trying to recoup his losses. However he doesn't actually have a plan. Unless he can do something substantial to prove to you that he's being honest, forget him.

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Chuck, why wouldn't a Leo go tf away even if he was the one that left?

I mean... This seems like such an obvious answer... But 10 months later and hardly any responses from me besides business that has to be taken care of. I dont want to be friends. Why bother my family and I about it? I hope he is always well but I don't care to play catch up or see each other on a screen with 4,000 miles between us. You would think he would give up based off my lack of interest all this time.

I've clearly stated this all to him.

Because he's one of those people who didn't learn that actions have consequences. This particular guy appears to not have been raised with impulse control. Looks like he's used to getting what he wants. He sees your refusal as a challenge. Granted he may actually care, but he's clearly not mature enough to be in a relationship with you.

We Leos don't like to lose, especially if we were the cause of the destruction. We can also be incredibly stubborn, refusing the give up in the face of adversity. This can be an admirable quality, but not when the situation is beyond dead and buried. It will probably take this guy a long time to come to terms with losing you. The only thing you can do is let him know that it's over and to stop involving your family in a relationship that he destroyed.

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

I am def not getting back together or whatever with the Leo (possibly just as friends but nothing more than that)...but I'm curious to get some perspective on this:

When you feel guilty about something...is it typical for you to tell the other person...like completely swallow your pride? (Being basically part leo myself lol...I'd want to but idk if I could).

Yes, the leo reached out and apologized... multiple times. Which honestly...I was pretty shocked that he did. My letter really tore him up...as it should with anyone who has a heart. He apparently ended it with the "gf" (said he wasn't reaching out because of that...sure lol)...claims I was on his mind and he told her that. I told him I'm not an option...I won't ever be someones option. He said he knows and that he's sorry. Who knows if true... probably bs...doesn't really matter though. Anyway, told me he realized a bunch of stuff...said I'm amazing, so caring and understanding...when he had a bad day I was there for him...he loved me for that. Then said he loved spending time with me, the fact his kid asked to come over here was a big thing and his grandma absolutely loved me etc. And if I don't want to talk or see him again ...he understands. Yeah yeah yeah...if that was true then he wouldn't have did me dirty like he did. Plus if true...there would be action and there isn't ...just fluff words.

I flat out asked him what he wanted from me... forgiveness? Fine I forgive you...happy now? (I don't forgive him lol...but I feel like he's just trying to ease his guilt)...he said he's done some messed up things and never felt bad for it but he really felt bad for the way he did me. I said ok...you told me...I thanked you for the apology so is that it then? He then asked me "huh". I said "you just wanted me to know...is that all?". He said he didn't say that (idk what that means). I said...then what do you want here? He said "idk right now...sleep"

I mean props for him apologizing but what's the end game here exactly...like is he just trying to ease his guilty conscious? Does he really think I'd give him a second chance? I don't get it...

Well a few things. First don't let your curiosity or desire for answers drive you to spend too much time thinking about this guy. Sometimes people just aren't that deep. This guy wanted to have his cake and eat it too, that's all. He agreed to be exclusive with you and got a gilfriend on the side right after. If he hadn't actually agree to exclusivity with you, then this would be a different story (though still messed up). He did agree though, so no you know his true character.

Also if you're going to forgive someone, do it if you actually mean it. The act of forgiveness is for you, not him. Forgive him so that you can put him behind you and move on, not so that it makes him feel better. Once you forgive someone, there's no need to continue pondering on it. It doesn't matter how he feels, he made his bed and now he must lie in it.

Whether he recognizes the error of his ways is of no consequence. Never allow yourself to be someone's option or plaything. The best route to take is always one of self respect. Aside from physical beauty, that's what usually attracts people. The Leo realizes he made the wrong decision and is trying to recoup his losses. However he doesn't actually have a plan. Unless he can do something substantial to prove to you that he's being honest, forget him.

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You are right. I've wasted enough time and energy on the situation and need to forget he ever existed. Starting now!

Second time courting a August 1st leo and not sure if shes interested or not. She text me first every morning Good Morning then barely texts back after that. She works and in school so i get it she gets busy. I just thought when someone likes you especially a leo they always want to talk to you

We talked before and she was very responsive then but this time around i get a second chance to prove myself and its moving slow. Maybe on cautious side this time

I did say i wanted to take her out on a date but she has plans the next couple of weeks. She did say she'll figure something out and may be free one day before she leaves for her bday vacation.

So my question is does she just want the attention, is she interested or wants me to chase after her?

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Second time courting a August 1st leo and not sure if shes interested or not. She text me first every morning Good Morning then barely texts back after that. She works and in school so i get it she gets busy. I just thought when someone likes you especially a leo they always want to talk to you

We talked before and she was very responsive then but this time around i get a second chance to prove myself and its moving slow. Maybe on cautious side this time

I did say i wanted to take her out on a date but she has plans the next couple of weeks. She did say she'll figure something out and may be free one day before she leaves for her bday vacation.

So my question is does she just want the attention, is she interested or wants me to chase after her?

Well a few things. Leos are very busy people and we're very similar to Taurus when it comes to our workaholism. Even if we are interested in someone, if you're not close with us yet then prepare to take a backseat to our work obligations. That's not to say that Leos are always like that, but a Lep won't prioritize you until you grow closer.

You mentioned that you've talked to this Leo before and she was responsive. What happened then that you feel the need to "prove" yourself now? Just know that Leos like consistency and we have long memories. So if you acted one way before and act differently now, she won't readily forget that. As a result she's going to take her time observing you first (if she's still interested).

That all being said, this woman's interest in you doesn't seem to be very high at the moment. It's possible that it's because she's busy, it's possible that she wants to see if your interest in her is consistent. However when a woman is definitely interested, she will give more definite responses. Even if she's truly busy for the next couple of weeks, her counter offer would have been more concrete/enthusiastic. Stating that she "may be free one day" before she leaves for her birthday isn't an indication of high interest at all.

So my question is, what happened the first time you interacted with this Leo woman and why do you feel like this is your "second chance" with her?

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Second time courting a August 1st leo and not sure if shes interested or not. She text me first every morning Good Morning then barely texts back after that. She works and in school so i get it she gets busy. I just thought when someone likes you especially a leo they always want to talk to you

We talked before and she was very responsive then but this time around i get a second chance to prove myself and its moving slow. Maybe on cautious side this time

I did say i wanted to take her out on a date but she has plans the next couple of weeks. She did say she'll figure something out and may be free one day before she leaves for her bday vacation.

So my question is does she just want the attention, is she interested or wants me to chase after her?

What happened before? Second chance why?

It’s hard for Leo’s to come back around but it’s not impossible. You have to earn your trust and love back especially if you screwed us over when all we did was care and put in the effort. At some point it’s like the roles reverse.

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Posted by Breeze

Second time courting a August 1st leo and not sure if shes interested or not. She text me first every morning Good Morning then barely texts back after that. She works and in school so i get it she gets busy. I just thought when someone likes you especially a leo they always want to talk to you

We talked before and she was very responsive then but this time around i get a second chance to prove myself and its moving slow. Maybe on cautious side this time

I did say i wanted to take her out on a date but she has plans the next couple of weeks. She did say she'll figure something out and may be free one day before she leaves for her bday vacation.

So my question is does she just want the attention, is she interested or wants me to chase after her?

What happened before? Second chance why?

It’s hard for Leo’s to come back around but it’s not impossible. You have to earn your trust and love back especially if you screwed us over when all we did was care and put in the effort. At some point it’s like the roles reverse.

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Basically was talking to her and another female at same time (being single) then i chose to exclusively date the other female. Instead if ghosting her i let her know my move necause i respected her and she caught an attitude and said lose my number. We only texted and talked a couple weeks nothing too serious.

She did say i was in the screening process now that i got her number again. Im sure i hurt her ego back then

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Posted by Breeze

Second time courting a August 1st leo and not sure if shes interested or not. She text me first every morning Good Morning then barely texts back after that. She works and in school so i get it she gets busy. I just thought when someone likes you especially a leo they always want to talk to you

We talked before and she was very responsive then but this time around i get a second chance to prove myself and its moving slow. Maybe on cautious side this time

I did say i wanted to take her out on a date but she has plans the next couple of weeks. She did say she'll figure something out and may be free one day before she leaves for her bday vacation.

So my question is does she just want the attention, is she interested or wants me to chase after her?

Well a few things. Leos are very busy people and we're very similar to Taurus when it comes to our workaholism. Even if we are interested in someone, if you're not close with us yet then prepare to take a backseat to our work obligations. That's not to say that Leos are always like that, but a Lep won't prioritize you until you grow closer.

You mentioned that you've talked to this Leo before and she was responsive. What happened then that you feel the need to "prove" yourself now? Just know that Leos like consistency and we have long memories. So if you acted one way before and act differently now, she won't readily forget that. As a result she's going to take her time observing you first (if she's still interested).

That all being said, this woman's interest in you doesn't seem to be very high at the moment. It's possible that it's because she's busy, it's possible that she wants to see if your interest in her is consistent. However when a woman is definitely interested, she will give more definite responses. Even if she's truly busy for the next couple of weeks, her counter offer would have been more concrete/enthusiastic. Stating that she "may be free one day" before she leaves for her birthday isn't an indication of high interest at all.

So my question is, what happened the first time you interacted with this Leo woman and why do you feel like this is your "second chance" with her?

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At first she was giving me very short one word replies. I said something to her about it and then she gave me more detailed text.

Was talking to her and another female at the time and chose the other woman to be exclusive with. She was more intriguing and the vibe was better. Not saying the leos wasnt but other woman we just had that cant miss spark. I told her my move because i respected her and didnt want to just ghost her, she blew me off. I tried to get intouch with her months ago and she wasnt going for it.

She said rarely ever gives second chances and it better be a good one to be let back into her special world. Thats when she said her number never changed and we started communicating again

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Second time courting a August 1st leo and not sure if shes interested or not. She text me first every morning Good Morning then barely texts back after that. She works and in school so i get it she gets busy. I just thought when someone likes you especially a leo they always want to talk to you

We talked before and she was very responsive then but this time around i get a second chance to prove myself and its moving slow. Maybe on cautious side this time

I did say i wanted to take her out on a date but she has plans the next couple of weeks. She did say she'll figure something out and may be free one day before she leaves for her bday vacation.

So my question is does she just want the attention, is she interested or wants me to chase after her?

What happened before? Second chance why?

It’s hard for Leo’s to come back around but it’s not impossible. You have to earn your trust and love back especially if you screwed us over when all we did was care and put in the effort. At some point it’s like the roles reverse.

Basically was talking to her and another female at same time (being single) then i chose to exclusively date the other female. Instead if ghosting her i let her know my move necause i respected her and she caught an attitude and said lose my number. We only texted and talked a couple weeks nothing too serious.

She did say i was in the screening process now that i got her number again. Im sure i hurt her ego back then

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Yeah the problem is that you're going to have a difficult time proving your genuine interest now. The Leo doesn't completely trust your intentions. Leos typically know our value in relationships. So when somenoe treats us like an option (especially a lesser option), we'll discard them just as easily as they discarded us. As a fixed sign there is rarely a middle ground with us. We are either in or we're out.

When you did have a shot with her, you went a different direction. Leos are proud creatures, so it's obvious you offended this Leo woman. If a Leo tells you, "lose my number" it usually means that we are done with you. In this Leo's mind she may be thinking that you're only going after because your initial desicion didn't work out. In a her mind, the choice should've been obvious to you the first time. In this case she doesn't want to validate your past behavior by giving you a second chance.

The next problem is, you're probably being toyed with at the moment. Leos are all about reciprocation, so you may be dealing with "an eye for an eye" situation. The Leo, feeling strung along by you in the past, may now be stringing you along. The only advantage you have at the moment is that you were at least honest in the past. This may not take you far in this scenario, but Leos do appreciate honest communication far more than being deceived. I honestly think that's the only reason she's communicating with you (that and you coming back is a boost to her ego).

My advice is to express consistent interest, but don't be needy. The Leo may just need to see that you aren't the type of flip flop (a trait we generally can't stand). If you're the type of Libra that is often indecisive, start working on that now. Leos can be very patient and accepting, but we will not tolerate a potential partner who is indecisive about us. Also actions speak louder than words (though words are also important). Basically don't think you're going to get close to her by just talking. Leo is a fire sign, which means we need to see your words backed up by actions.

If in a couple of weeks you still can't get this Leo to see you, then it may be time to cut your losses.

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Posted by Breeze

Second time courting a August 1st leo and not sure if shes interested or not. She text me first every morning Good Morning then barely texts back after that. She works and in school so i get it she gets busy. I just thought when someone likes you especially a leo they always want to talk to you

We talked before and she was very responsive then but this time around i get a second chance to prove myself and its moving slow. Maybe on cautious side this time

I did say i wanted to take her out on a date but she has plans the next couple of weeks. She did say she'll figure something out and may be free one day before she leaves for her bday vacation.

So my question is does she just want the attention, is she interested or wants me to chase after her?

What happened before? Second chance why?

It’s hard for Leo’s to come back around but it’s not impossible. You have to earn your trust and love back especially if you screwed us over when all we did was care and put in the effort. At some point it’s like the roles reverse.

Basically was talking to her and another female at same time (being single) then i chose to exclusively date the other female. Instead if ghosting her i let her know my move necause i respected her and she caught an attitude and said lose my number. We only texted and talked a couple weeks nothing too serious.

She did say i was in the screening process now that i got her number again. Im sure i hurt her ego back then

Yeah the problem is that you're going to have a difficult time proving your genuine interest now. The Leo doesn't completely trust your intentions. Leos typically know our value in relationships. So when somenoe treats us like an option (especially a lesser option), we'll discard them just as easily as they discarded us. As a fixed sign there is rarely a middle ground with us. We are either in or we're out.

When you did have a shot with her, you went a different direction. Leos are proud creatures, so it's obvious you offended this Leo woman. If a Leo tells you, "lose my number" it usually means that we are done with you. In this Leo's mind she may be thinking that you're only going after because your initial desicion didn't work out. In a her mind, the choice should've been obvious to you the first time. In this case she doesn't want to validate your past behavior by giving you a second chance.

The next problem is, you're probably being toyed with at the moment. Leos are all about reciprocation, so you may be dealing with "an eye for an eye" situation. The Leo, feeling strung along by you in the past, may now be stringing you along. The only advantage you have at the moment is that you were at least honest in the past. This may not take you far in this scenario, but Leos do appreciate honest communication far more than being deceived. I honestly think that's the only reason she's communicating with you (that and you coming back is a boost to her ego).

My advice is to express consistent interest, but don't be needy. The Leo may just need to see that you aren't the type of flip flop (a trait we generally can't stand). If you're the type of Libra that is often indecisive, start working on that now. Leos can be very patient and accepting, but we will not tolerate a potential partner who is indecisive about us. Also actions speak louder than words (though words are also important). Basically don't think you're going to get close to her by just talking. Leo is a fire sign, which means we need to see your words backed up by actions.

If in a couple of weeks you still can't get this Leo to see you, then it may be time to cut your losses.

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I know its a ego boost for her. I know how leos operate in some ways. Being strung along is something i was worried about. (Yea boost my ego then when im bored with you goodbye)

I know once i finally get her to give me the attention she once did i can finesse my way in, Not in a bad way though. Im the same way, talking gets old i want to physically see you! Thats why i brought up taking her old. 1, it shows my interest and 2 takes it to next step that im not wasting her time. Thats actually how i got her number again. Told her my actions will speak louder then my words because anyone can sell a dream.

Being indecisive about a woman i have eyes for not me. I have fans but if im eyeing you your the one i want and they dont matter. Im only indecisive about what food to eat.lol

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Posted by Breeze

Second time courting a August 1st leo and not sure if shes interested or not. She text me first every morning Good Morning then barely texts back after that. She works and in school so i get it she gets busy. I just thought when someone likes you especially a leo they always want to talk to you

We talked before and she was very responsive then but this time around i get a second chance to prove myself and its moving slow. Maybe on cautious side this time

I did say i wanted to take her out on a date but she has plans the next couple of weeks. She did say she'll figure something out and may be free one day before she leaves for her bday vacation.

So my question is does she just want the attention, is she interested or wants me to chase after her?

What happened before? Second chance why?

It’s hard for Leo’s to come back around but it’s not impossible. You have to earn your trust and love back especially if you screwed us over when all we did was care and put in the effort. At some point it’s like the roles reverse.

Basically was talking to her and another female at same time (being single) then i chose to exclusively date the other female. Instead if ghosting her i let her know my move necause i respected her and she caught an attitude and said lose my number. We only texted and talked a couple weeks nothing too serious.

She did say i was in the screening process now that i got her number again. Im sure i hurt her ego back then

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Oh yea you're done lol

shes just talking to you to be nice, might still be hurt but she sounds detached and yea we dont come back from betrayal.