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Posted by Chuckcem
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For sure!

1. Denial / Stubborness. Leos are notorious for licking our wounds when hurt and readjusting our strategy. Breakups can be hard for a Leo to swallow as we see it as a personal failure. So him reaching back out is his way or repairing that damage to his ego/pride. He's trying to fix the error by essentially erasing it.

Likewise it is hard for Leos to truly let go of someone we care about deeply. So this fuels his desire even more to reopen communication with you. Make no mistake a Leo's heart can outmatch his/her own ego if the relationship was deep enough

2. From what I've seen, 1st Decen Leos tend to look for a strong emotional/mental connection with their partners. They are very creative and knowledgeable in their fields, having an ability to excel at the skills they pick up. They can be workaholics and need partners who are also driven (even if they don't realize this themselves). They can also be boastful and have more of a "know it all" mentality, but that also comes with being a Leo. They don't always go for the "most attractive" partners as they can be bit more focused on creating a solid foundation for their love. They are very much looking to bond with someone who fits their idea of compatibility. They do feel deeply and may find themselves making exceptions for a partner's unnecessarily to keep the peace. This may put them in a position of having partners they need to "fix".

Sex with a 1st Decan can be powerful and consistent. They don't necessarily need huge variety as long as there is depth. That's not to say they are prudes since they do desire excitement in the bedroom. They need to be mindful of having their own sexual/physical needs met, since they can give too much of themselves to their partner. This could lead to resentment and frustration down the line if they aren't careful.

2nd Decan Leos tend to look for a strong mental/physical connection. They have a lot of untapped energy and are generally seeking a vast array of knowledge along with wealth (and possibly fame). This can make them the "show offs". This need can spill out into a creative or philosophical mindset. 2nd Decans are said to be lucky and charming, generally able to maneuver through tricky situations in order to climb the social ladder. They are dreamers and tend to think big as well. These Leos can be more flexible when it comes to what they are looking for in their partner, but still retain a firm principles and loyalty regardless. They simply want someone who can keep up with them and support their dreams. They are optimists at the end of the day and can even have a soft spot for helping others. 2nd Decans can be suckers for attention and need to be mindful not to fall for the "shiniest option".

Sex with a 2nd Decan is an adventure. It's is an event and often playful. There is more of a need to explore, so kinkiness may be more present here (within Leonian reason). 2nd Decan Leos want to be total physical immersion during sex. Spontonaity in the bedroom is a plus, but not always necessary. These people do like to explore and must be sure to separate lust from love, lest they fall prey to superficial relationships.

3rd Decan Leos tend to look for a strong physical/emotional connection. They are a bit more strong-willed in their beliefs. They are driven and dominant, sometimes domineering in their ideals. They can be both old fashioned and stubborn in ther beliefs. They are also witty, honest, and generally jovial. They execute plans to things happen quickly. They can also be prone to being "macho" or having "bravado" as they have a strong ideas regarding romance. They are the romantic types, the white knights. 3rd Decans are passionate and will give to their lovers readily and endlessly. They are looking for complete devotion in return and can wind up in situations where they may even be adamantly pushing the entire relationship forward. They can be a bit controlling and even idealistic, so they need to make sure their partners are equally invested in the relationship. They put a lot of pride in their successes, romance included.

Sex with a 3rd Decan is one of honesty. There is a lot of passion here as the lovemaking can be very powerful and direct. Expect this partner to be very goal oriented in the bedroom, having a very clear idea of how to pleasure his/her partner. Sex may be result driven as a result as this boosts the 3rd Decan's ego. Some may be a bit more rigid about how they go about this, since they may be a bit more conservative with their approach. That's not to say they are boring though. They just need to be mindful of keeping an open mind and maintaining some flexibility.
Hi @chuckcem,

I've just been reading about Leo Decans, I'm born on the 7th, so would be a 2nd decan

It's uncanny how much I see myself in the descriptions!

Given I relate, would a Sagi be my best match?

I'm seeing a libra 3rd decan right now. I really like her, but we're struggling to find a real emotional connection right now


Hey glad this rang with you. I'm a 2nd decan myself, so I was really writing from experience on that. I've known a lot of Leos in my life too.

The 2nd decan is said to be a combination of Leo-Sag energy, so I imagine that given the right placements, a relationship with a Sag should be simple enough. Fire signs generally do well with other fire signs anyway. I actually love Sagittarius people and would be open to dating another Sag woman again.

Also know that Leo/Leo relationships can be tricky too. 3rd decan Leos have Leo-Aries energy, which means they can be more impulsive and demanding. There old fashioned nature may clash with your freedom of expression.

Of course like any good Leo relationship, there will inevitably be a clash of egos. Though I will say, you may not find a partner as devoted as a 3rd decan Leo either. I've seen 3rd decan Leos fight for a dying relationship until the bitter end. They can be unbending in their loyalty to their partner.
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Hi @chuckem,

Thanks for the answer, I'm actually seeing a third decan libran right now. Not sure it will last though

My only significant relationship was also with a 2nd decan Leo! It was actually amazing until the last few months, when it ended suddenly and badly. It still eats me up

I'm all for Leo/Leo pairings though. Great experience 🙂
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Posted by Librahelpme
Posted by Chuckcem
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Posted by Chuckcem
For sure!

1. Denial / Stubborness. Leos are notorious for licking our wounds when hurt and readjusting our strategy. Breakups can be hard for a Leo to swallow as we see it as a personal failure. So him reaching back out is his way or repairing that damage to his ego/pride. He's trying to fix the error by essentially erasing it.

Likewise it is hard for Leos to truly let go of someone we care about deeply. So this fuels his desire even more to reopen communication with you. Make no mistake a Leo's heart can outmatch his/her own ego if the relationship was deep enough

2. From what I've seen, 1st Decen Leos tend to look for a strong emotional/mental connection with their partners. They are very creative and knowledgeable in their fields, having an ability to excel at the skills they pick up. They can be workaholics and need partners who are also driven (even if they don't realize this themselves). They can also be boastful and have more of a "know it all" mentality, but that also comes with being a Leo. They don't always go for the "most attractive" partners as they can be bit more focused on creating a solid foundation for their love. They are very much looking to bond with someone who fits their idea of compatibility. They do feel deeply and may find themselves making exceptions for a partner's unnecessarily to keep the peace. This may put them in a position of having partners they need to "fix".

Sex with a 1st Decan can be powerful and consistent. They don't necessarily need huge variety as long as there is depth. That's not to say they are prudes since they do desire excitement in the bedroom. They need to be mindful of having their own sexual/physical needs met, since they can give too much of themselves to their partner. This could lead to resentment and frustration down the line if they aren't careful.

2nd Decan Leos tend to look for a strong mental/physical connection. They have a lot of untapped energy and are generally seeking a vast array of knowledge along with wealth (and possibly fame). This can make them the "show offs". This need can spill out into a creative or philosophical mindset. 2nd Decans are said to be lucky and charming, generally able to maneuver through tricky situations in order to climb the social ladder. They are dreamers and tend to think big as well. These Leos can be more flexible when it comes to what they are looking for in their partner, but still retain a firm principles and loyalty regardless. They simply want someone who can keep up with them and support their dreams. They are optimists at the end of the day and can even have a soft spot for helping others. 2nd Decans can be suckers for attention and need to be mindful not to fall for the "shiniest option".

Sex with a 2nd Decan is an adventure. It's is an event and often playful. There is more of a need to explore, so kinkiness may be more present here (within Leonian reason). 2nd Decan Leos want to be total physical immersion during sex. Spontonaity in the bedroom is a plus, but not always necessary. These people do like to explore and must be sure to separate lust from love, lest they fall prey to superficial relationships.

3rd Decan Leos tend to look for a strong physical/emotional connection. They are a bit more strong-willed in their beliefs. They are driven and dominant, sometimes domineering in their ideals. They can be both old fashioned and stubborn in ther beliefs. They are also witty, honest, and generally jovial. They execute plans to things happen quickly. They can also be prone to being "macho" or having "bravado" as they have a strong ideas regarding romance. They are the romantic types, the white knights. 3rd Decans are passionate and will give to their lovers readily and endlessly. They are looking for complete devotion in return and can wind up in situations where they may even be adamantly pushing the entire relationship forward. They can be a bit controlling and even idealistic, so they need to make sure their partners are equally invested in the relationship. They put a lot of pride in their successes, romance included.

Sex with a 3rd Decan is one of honesty. There is a lot of passion here as the lovemaking can be very powerful and direct. Expect this partner to be very goal oriented in the bedroom, having a very clear idea of how to pleasure his/her partner. Sex may be result driven as a result as this boosts the 3rd Decan's ego. Some may be a bit more rigid about how they go about this, since they may be a bit more conservative with their approach. That's not to say they are boring though. They just need to be mindful of keeping an open mind and maintaining some flexibility.
Hi @chuckcem,

I've just been reading about Leo Decans, I'm born on the 7th, so would be a 2nd decan

It's uncanny how much I see myself in the descriptions!

Given I relate, would a Sagi be my best match?

I'm seeing a libra 3rd decan right now. I really like her, but we're struggling to find a real emotional connection right now


Hey glad this rang with you. I'm a 2nd decan myself, so I was really writing from experience on that. I've known a lot of Leos in my life too.

The 2nd decan is said to be a combination of Leo-Sag energy, so I imagine that given the right placements, a relationship with a Sag should be simple enough. Fire signs generally do well with other fire signs anyway. I actually love Sagittarius people and would be open to dating another Sag woman again.

Also know that Leo/Leo relationships can be tricky too. 3rd decan Leos have Leo-Aries energy, which means they can be more impulsive and demanding. There old fashioned nature may clash with your freedom of expression.

Of course like any good Leo relationship, there will inevitably be a clash of egos. Though I will say, you may not find a partner as devoted as a 3rd decan Leo either. I've seen 3rd decan Leos fight for a dying relationship until the bitter end. They can be unbending in their loyalty to their partner.
Hi @chuckem,

Thanks for the answer, I'm actually seeing a third decan libran right now. Not sure it will last though

My only significant relationship was also with a 2nd decan Leo! It was actually amazing until the last few months, when it ended suddenly and badly. It still eats me up

I'm all for Leo/Leo pairings though. Great experience 🙂
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Oh sorry, I read that incorrectly.

Yeah my first love was a 2nd decan Leo woman. As you said, it went well up until the break up. We fixed signs don't do break ups well, especially not Leos.
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Azlan
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Posted by Chuckcem
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Posted by Chuckcem
Posted by Librahelpme
Posted by Chuckcem
For sure!

1. Denial / Stubborness. Leos are notorious for licking our wounds when hurt and readjusting our strategy. Breakups can be hard for a Leo to swallow as we see it as a personal failure. So him reaching back out is his way or repairing that damage to his ego/pride. He's trying to fix the error by essentially erasing it.

Likewise it is hard for Leos to truly let go of someone we care about deeply. So this fuels his desire even more to reopen communication with you. Make no mistake a Leo's heart can outmatch his/her own ego if the relationship was deep enough

2. From what I've seen, 1st Decen Leos tend to look for a strong emotional/mental connection with their partners. They are very creative and knowledgeable in their fields, having an ability to excel at the skills they pick up. They can be workaholics and need partners who are also driven (even if they don't realize this themselves). They can also be boastful and have more of a "know it all" mentality, but that also comes with being a Leo. They don't always go for the "most attractive" partners as they can be bit more focused on creating a solid foundation for their love. They are very much looking to bond with someone who fits their idea of compatibility. They do feel deeply and may find themselves making exceptions for a partner's unnecessarily to keep the peace. This may put them in a position of having partners they need to "fix".

Sex with a 1st Decan can be powerful and consistent. They don't necessarily need huge variety as long as there is depth. That's not to say they are prudes since they do desire excitement in the bedroom. They need to be mindful of having their own sexual/physical needs met, since they can give too much of themselves to their partner. This could lead to resentment and frustration down the line if they aren't careful.

2nd Decan Leos tend to look for a strong mental/physical connection. They have a lot of untapped energy and are generally seeking a vast array of knowledge along with wealth (and possibly fame). This can make them the "show offs". This need can spill out into a creative or philosophical mindset. 2nd Decans are said to be lucky and charming, generally able to maneuver through tricky situations in order to climb the social ladder. They are dreamers and tend to think big as well. These Leos can be more flexible when it comes to what they are looking for in their partner, but still retain a firm principles and loyalty regardless. They simply want someone who can keep up with them and support their dreams. They are optimists at the end of the day and can even have a soft spot for helping others. 2nd Decans can be suckers for attention and need to be mindful not to fall for the "shiniest option".

Sex with a 2nd Decan is an adventure. It's is an event and often playful. There is more of a need to explore, so kinkiness may be more present here (within Leonian reason). 2nd Decan Leos want to be total physical immersion during sex. Spontonaity in the bedroom is a plus, but not always necessary. These people do like to explore and must be sure to separate lust from love, lest they fall prey to superficial relationships.

3rd Decan Leos tend to look for a strong physical/emotional connection. They are a bit more strong-willed in their beliefs. They are driven and dominant, sometimes domineering in their ideals. They can be both old fashioned and stubborn in ther beliefs. They are also witty, honest, and generally jovial. They execute plans to things happen quickly. They can also be prone to being "macho" or having "bravado" as they have a strong ideas regarding romance. They are the romantic types, the white knights. 3rd Decans are passionate and will give to their lovers readily and endlessly. They are looking for complete devotion in return and can wind up in situations where they may even be adamantly pushing the entire relationship forward. They can be a bit controlling and even idealistic, so they need to make sure their partners are equally invested in the relationship. They put a lot of pride in their successes, romance included.

Sex with a 3rd Decan is one of honesty. There is a lot of passion here as the lovemaking can be very powerful and direct. Expect this partner to be very goal oriented in the bedroom, having a very clear idea of how to pleasure his/her partner. Sex may be result driven as a result as this boosts the 3rd Decan's ego. Some may be a bit more rigid about how they go about this, since they may be a bit more conservative with their approach. That's not to say they are boring though. They just need to be mindful of keeping an open mind and maintaining some flexibility.
Hi @chuckcem,

I've just been reading about Leo Decans, I'm born on the 7th, so would be a 2nd decan

It's uncanny how much I see myself in the descriptions!

Given I relate, would a Sagi be my best match?

I'm seeing a libra 3rd decan right now. I really like her, but we're struggling to find a real emotional connection right now


Hey glad this rang with you. I'm a 2nd decan myself, so I was really writing from experience on that. I've known a lot of Leos in my life too.

The 2nd decan is said to be a combination of Leo-Sag energy, so I imagine that given the right placements, a relationship with a Sag should be simple enough. Fire signs generally do well with other fire signs anyway. I actually love Sagittarius people and would be open to dating another Sag woman again.

Also know that Leo/Leo relationships can be tricky too. 3rd decan Leos have Leo-Aries energy, which means they can be more impulsive and demanding. There old fashioned nature may clash with your freedom of expression.

Of course like any good Leo relationship, there will inevitably be a clash of egos. Though I will say, you may not find a partner as devoted as a 3rd decan Leo either. I've seen 3rd decan Leos fight for a dying relationship until the bitter end. They can be unbending in their loyalty to their partner.
Hi @chuckem,

Thanks for the answer, I'm actually seeing a third decan libran right now. Not sure it will last though

My only significant relationship was also with a 2nd decan Leo! It was actually amazing until the last few months, when it ended suddenly and badly. It still eats me up

I'm all for Leo/Leo pairings though. Great experience 🙂
Oh sorry, I read that incorrectly.

Yeah my first love was a 2nd decan Leo woman. As you said, it went well up until the break up. We fixed signs don't do break ups well, especially not Leos.
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Ha that is amazing! It was my first love too!
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Chuckcem thanks for all the input! So I was reading a certain post and it said for Leo men I believe that they appreciate command instead of demand. Can you elaborate on this please? Thank You?


Demanding attention means that a person is forcifully requesting attention from another. This can irritate a Leo because we don't like being forced to do anyhing or made to feel inferior. Demanding attention from us (if you're not someone we love) will backfire.

Commanding attention however means that the person is alluring, drawing a Leos attention without needing to request it. This is because the person exhibits traits that the Leo would naturally find attractive.

As a result, it's not always the loudest person in the room that will attract a Leo or even get our attention. The person who appears to be confident and alluring will command our attention most often.
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Posted by Chuckcem
Posted by Librahelpme
Posted by Chuckcem
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Posted by Chuckcem
For sure!

1. Denial / Stubborness. Leos are notorious for licking our wounds when hurt and readjusting our strategy. Breakups can be hard for a Leo to swallow as we see it as a personal failure. So him reaching back out is his way or repairing that damage to his ego/pride. He's trying to fix the error by essentially erasing it.

Likewise it is hard for Leos to truly let go of someone we care about deeply. So this fuels his desire even more to reopen communication with you. Make no mistake a Leo's heart can outmatch his/her own ego if the relationship was deep enough

2. From what I've seen, 1st Decen Leos tend to look for a strong emotional/mental connection with their partners. They are very creative and knowledgeable in their fields, having an ability to excel at the skills they pick up. They can be workaholics and need partners who are also driven (even if they don't realize this themselves). They can also be boastful and have more of a "know it all" mentality, but that also comes with being a Leo. They don't always go for the "most attractive" partners as they can be bit more focused on creating a solid foundation for their love. They are very much looking to bond with someone who fits their idea of compatibility. They do feel deeply and may find themselves making exceptions for a partner's unnecessarily to keep the peace. This may put them in a position of having partners they need to "fix".

Sex with a 1st Decan can be powerful and consistent. They don't necessarily need huge variety as long as there is depth. That's not to say they are prudes since they do desire excitement in the bedroom. They need to be mindful of having their own sexual/physical needs met, since they can give too much of themselves to their partner. This could lead to resentment and frustration down the line if they aren't careful.

2nd Decan Leos tend to look for a strong mental/physical connection. They have a lot of untapped energy and are generally seeking a vast array of knowledge along with wealth (and possibly fame). This can make them the "show offs". This need can spill out into a creative or philosophical mindset. 2nd Decans are said to be lucky and charming, generally able to maneuver through tricky situations in order to climb the social ladder. They are dreamers and tend to think big as well. These Leos can be more flexible when it comes to what they are looking for in their partner, but still retain a firm principles and loyalty regardless. They simply want someone who can keep up with them and support their dreams. They are optimists at the end of the day and can even have a soft spot for helping others. 2nd Decans can be suckers for attention and need to be mindful not to fall for the "shiniest option".

Sex with a 2nd Decan is an adventure. It's is an event and often playful. There is more of a need to explore, so kinkiness may be more present here (within Leonian reason). 2nd Decan Leos want to be total physical immersion during sex. Spontonaity in the bedroom is a plus, but not always necessary. These people do like to explore and must be sure to separate lust from love, lest they fall prey to superficial relationships.

3rd Decan Leos tend to look for a strong physical/emotional connection. They are a bit more strong-willed in their beliefs. They are driven and dominant, sometimes domineering in their ideals. They can be both old fashioned and stubborn in ther beliefs. They are also witty, honest, and generally jovial. They execute plans to things happen quickly. They can also be prone to being "macho" or having "bravado" as they have a strong ideas regarding romance. They are the romantic types, the white knights. 3rd Decans are passionate and will give to their lovers readily and endlessly. They are looking for complete devotion in return and can wind up in situations where they may even be adamantly pushing the entire relationship forward. They can be a bit controlling and even idealistic, so they need to make sure their partners are equally invested in the relationship. They put a lot of pride in their successes, romance included.

Sex with a 3rd Decan is one of honesty. There is a lot of passion here as the lovemaking can be very powerful and direct. Expect this partner to be very goal oriented in the bedroom, having a very clear idea of how to pleasure his/her partner. Sex may be result driven as a result as this boosts the 3rd Decan's ego. Some may be a bit more rigid about how they go about this, since they may be a bit more conservative with their approach. That's not to say they are boring though. They just need to be mindful of keeping an open mind and maintaining some flexibility.
Hi @chuckcem,

I've just been reading about Leo Decans, I'm born on the 7th, so would be a 2nd decan

It's uncanny how much I see myself in the descriptions!

Given I relate, would a Sagi be my best match?

I'm seeing a libra 3rd decan right now. I really like her, but we're struggling to find a real emotional connection right now


Hey glad this rang with you. I'm a 2nd decan myself, so I was really writing from experience on that. I've known a lot of Leos in my life too.

The 2nd decan is said to be a combination of Leo-Sag energy, so I imagine that given the right placements, a relationship with a Sag should be simple enough. Fire signs generally do well with other fire signs anyway. I actually love Sagittarius people and would be open to dating another Sag woman again.

Also know that Leo/Leo relationships can be tricky too. 3rd decan Leos have Leo-Aries energy, which means they can be more impulsive and demanding. There old fashioned nature may clash with your freedom of expression.

Of course like any good Leo relationship, there will inevitably be a clash of egos. Though I will say, you may not find a partner as devoted as a 3rd decan Leo either. I've seen 3rd decan Leos fight for a dying relationship until the bitter end. They can be unbending in their loyalty to their partner.
Hi @chuckem,

Thanks for the answer, I'm actually seeing a third decan libran right now. Not sure it will last though

My only significant relationship was also with a 2nd decan Leo! It was actually amazing until the last few months, when it ended suddenly and badly. It still eats me up

I'm all for Leo/Leo pairings though. Great experience 🙂
Oh sorry, I read that incorrectly.

Yeah my first love was a 2nd decan Leo woman. As you said, it went well up until the break up. We fixed signs don't do break ups well, especially not Leos.
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Hi @chuckcem,

Given the similarities in our first relationships...

Did you maintain contact post break-up?

It's been a battle for me but I've never reached out once it came to an end. She is 2nd decan and hasn't reached out either. Which is disappointing to me

I think of reaching out a lot but never bring myself to do it

Given the depth of the relationship, it kills me that it's now just dust in the wind...

If you'd like to share, any insights would be great!
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Posted by Librahelpme
Posted by Chuckcem
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Posted by Chuckcem
For sure!

1. Denial / Stubborness. Leos are notorious for licking our wounds when hurt and readjusting our strategy. Breakups can be hard for a Leo to swallow as we see it as a personal failure. So him reaching back out is his way or repairing that damage to his ego/pride. He's trying to fix the error by essentially erasing it.

Likewise it is hard for Leos to truly let go of someone we care about deeply. So this fuels his desire even more to reopen communication with you. Make no mistake a Leo's heart can outmatch his/her own ego if the relationship was deep enough

2. From what I've seen, 1st Decen Leos tend to look for a strong emotional/mental connection with their partners. They are very creative and knowledgeable in their fields, having an ability to excel at the skills they pick up. They can be workaholics and need partners who are also driven (even if they don't realize this themselves). They can also be boastful and have more of a "know it all" mentality, but that also comes with being a Leo. They don't always go for the "most attractive" partners as they can be bit more focused on creating a solid foundation for their love. They are very much looking to bond with someone who fits their idea of compatibility. They do feel deeply and may find themselves making exceptions for a partner's unnecessarily to keep the peace. This may put them in a position of having partners they need to "fix".

Sex with a 1st Decan can be powerful and consistent. They don't necessarily need huge variety as long as there is depth. That's not to say they are prudes since they do desire excitement in the bedroom. They need to be mindful of having their own sexual/physical needs met, since they can give too much of themselves to their partner. This could lead to resentment and frustration down the line if they aren't careful.

2nd Decan Leos tend to look for a strong mental/physical connection. They have a lot of untapped energy and are generally seeking a vast array of knowledge along with wealth (and possibly fame). This can make them the "show offs". This need can spill out into a creative or philosophical mindset. 2nd Decans are said to be lucky and charming, generally able to maneuver through tricky situations in order to climb the social ladder. They are dreamers and tend to think big as well. These Leos can be more flexible when it comes to what they are looking for in their partner, but still retain a firm principles and loyalty regardless. They simply want someone who can keep up with them and support their dreams. They are optimists at the end of the day and can even have a soft spot for helping others. 2nd Decans can be suckers for attention and need to be mindful not to fall for the "shiniest option".

Sex with a 2nd Decan is an adventure. It's is an event and often playful. There is more of a need to explore, so kinkiness may be more present here (within Leonian reason). 2nd Decan Leos want to be total physical immersion during sex. Spontonaity in the bedroom is a plus, but not always necessary. These people do like to explore and must be sure to separate lust from love, lest they fall prey to superficial relationships.

3rd Decan Leos tend to look for a strong physical/emotional connection. They are a bit more strong-willed in their beliefs. They are driven and dominant, sometimes domineering in their ideals. They can be both old fashioned and stubborn in ther beliefs. They are also witty, honest, and generally jovial. They execute plans to things happen quickly. They can also be prone to being "macho" or having "bravado" as they have a strong ideas regarding romance. They are the romantic types, the white knights. 3rd Decans are passionate and will give to their lovers readily and endlessly. They are looking for complete devotion in return and can wind up in situations where they may even be adamantly pushing the entire relationship forward. They can be a bit controlling and even idealistic, so they need to make sure their partners are equally invested in the relationship. They put a lot of pride in their successes, romance included.

Sex with a 3rd Decan is one of honesty. There is a lot of passion here as the lovemaking can be very powerful and direct. Expect this partner to be very goal oriented in the bedroom, having a very clear idea of how to pleasure his/her partner. Sex may be result driven as a result as this boosts the 3rd Decan's ego. Some may be a bit more rigid about how they go about this, since they may be a bit more conservative with their approach. That's not to say they are boring though. They just need to be mindful of keeping an open mind and maintaining some flexibility.
Hi @chuckcem,

I've just been reading about Leo Decans, I'm born on the 7th, so would be a 2nd decan

It's uncanny how much I see myself in the descriptions!

Given I relate, would a Sagi be my best match?

I'm seeing a libra 3rd decan right now. I really like her, but we're struggling to find a real emotional connection right now


Hey glad this rang with you. I'm a 2nd decan myself, so I was really writing from experience on that. I've known a lot of Leos in my life too.

The 2nd decan is said to be a combination of Leo-Sag energy, so I imagine that given the right placements, a relationship with a Sag should be simple enough. Fire signs generally do well with other fire signs anyway. I actually love Sagittarius people and would be open to dating another Sag woman again.

Also know that Leo/Leo relationships can be tricky too. 3rd decan Leos have Leo-Aries energy, which means they can be more impulsive and demanding. There old fashioned nature may clash with your freedom of expression.

Of course like any good Leo relationship, there will inevitably be a clash of egos. Though I will say, you may not find a partner as devoted as a 3rd decan Leo either. I've seen 3rd decan Leos fight for a dying relationship until the bitter end. They can be unbending in their loyalty to their partner.
Hi @chuckem,

Thanks for the answer, I'm actually seeing a third decan libran right now. Not sure it will last though

My only significant relationship was also with a 2nd decan Leo! It was actually amazing until the last few months, when it ended suddenly and badly. It still eats me up

I'm all for Leo/Leo pairings though. Great experience 🙂
Oh sorry, I read that incorrectly.

Yeah my first love was a 2nd decan Leo woman. As you said, it went well up until the break up. We fixed signs don't do break ups well, especially not Leos.
Hi @chuckcem,

Given the similarities in our first relationships...

Did you maintain contact post break-up?

It's been a battle for me but I've never reached out once it came to an end. She is 2nd decan and hasn't reached out either. Which is disappointing to me

I think of reaching out a lot but never bring myself to do it

Given the depth of the relationship, it kills me that it's now just dust in the wind...

If you'd like to share, any insights would be great!

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After we broke up, we agreed to be "friends" (this was over a decade ago and I was much younger). I blew up at her after she continued calling me to complain about her new boyfriend and burned the bridge. We then reconnected via social media after I broke up with my 2nd girlfriend. Pretty sure she contacted me to see if I was still angry.

We became ok again but didn't really talk or see each other that miuch. Every now then she would make some remark on social media or like a picture. She hit me up about a year ago and told me to contact her if I was in her city. I haven't heard from her since then.

My advice is to continue living your life. I've yet to have an ex not contact me in some capacity. However if she never contacts you again, it's no big deal. Leos are proud and it takes us a while to come around if we were hurt.
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Would July 18th classify as Cancer/Leo Cusp?
That person would be a Cancer. Cancer-Leo cusp generally fall on July 22nd, give or take a day (so July 21st and July 23rd could be considered cusp). Some sources give cusps a three day window before and after July 22nd (July 19th-July 25th).

I read an article claiming that 7/18 is the beginning of the cusps of Leos.

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Maybe, I'm sure these things fluctuate. Most of the articles I've found peg the time closer in proximity to July 22nd.
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Would July 18th classify as Cancer/Leo Cusp?
That person would be a Cancer. Cancer-Leo cusp generally fall on July 22nd, give or take a day (so July 21st and July 23rd could be considered cusp). Some sources give cusps a three day window before and after July 22nd (July 19th-July 25th).

I read an article claiming that 7/18 is the beginning of the cusps of Leos.


Maybe, I'm sure these things fluctuate. Most of the articles I've found peg the time closer in proximity to July 22nd.

Which fire sign do you get along with best?

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Sagittarius and Leo. I do well with people with Aries placements, but don't have too many Aries people around me.
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So me and Leo guy can't seem to get it together.. so long story short, Leo guy texted me yeaterday asking me to do something that I didn't wanna do.he figured since he did it, I should do it too. it wasn't nothing major.. but I replied n said I don't have to that just because you ask me to..so in return he says oh wow, I don't have to do what you ask me to do either.. then I simply said bye.. he said bet. Then today he blocks me on social media..

So at this point I'm thinking, is that his way of saying , He completely over it.. like we won't talk anymore??

Or is just upset or what?
Being blocked is never a good sign, especially when dealing with a Leo. If we blow up at least you kow there's still a spark, but once we go cold it's practically impossible to get us back. Unless the guy has blocked you before, I don't expect he'll be coming back. Also what are your Venus and Mars placements as well (for both of you)?

The problem is your key nature doesn't seem to be meshing with his. He's a Leo, meaning he's looking for adoration from a partner. He's also a Libra Moon which means he's more focused on finding a partner than a Libra Sun would be. While Libra Suns like the idea of partnership, Libra Moons actively seek them.

Also one thing to know is that Leos tend to invite people out when we like them. Likewise Libra Moon people want to be around the object of thier affection even to the point of doing some mundane tasks together. Partnership is big for him as a result.

For you this isn't really the case. You like the idea of partnership, but up until a point. You still require your freedom and space. Likewise your Aqua Moon is going to be rebellious by nature, so you'll be prone to marching to the beat of your own drum. You have a more detached observant perspective on things and you're not taking his emotions into account. So to him it looks like you're rebuffing his advances, though from your point of view you were just being matter of fact.

Taking your placements into account, this is a common issue that you'll see in the Leo/Aqua dynamic. That type of relationps is a constant push/pull of wills and can be difficult to launch. Also the Libra/Aqua dynamic can be bit too much air (for at least one of you) that solidfying plans may be difficult. He may find you hard to peg, which will become frustrating to his Leo Sun. This then will disturb the Leo/Libra dynamic that exists between you too as well.

If he blocked you, there's nothing really for you to do. If he comes back around, then you'll want to be more direct with him if you want this to go anywhere. Though my question is, are you ctually interested in this guy? It seems like you've been poking at him more for his reaction than anything else. Granted, I know this is all very early, so you may not have a strong feeling one way or another for this guy. I'm just curious.
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Me

Venus-Virgo

Mars-libra

Him

Venus-gemeni

Mars-Virgo

And he's never blocked me before, but I have unfollowerd him, n he did the same and then he texted me and asked me if I had actually unfollowed him

He admitted that he was being petty because I was being petty, but we had got over that up until today when he actually blocked me / because I had unfollowed then refollowed him

And to answer your question I am very interested in him, but it's like he gives me what I would consider to be mixed signals.. and I don't like that at all..so then I find myself doing things here and there to get a reaction to get better insight


Well it looks like he's doing the same thing back to you. Remember that with Libra energy, "Fair is fair," so if you unfollow him, expect the same action back. If you're being "petty" then so will he. This of course also works in reverse, if he acts standoffish, then so will you. You're basically mirroring each other's behavior. This is amplified because your Moon is the oppsite sign of his sun. The push-pull dynamic will be strong here. Hence the passive aggressive energy between you two.

Being a Libra, you're also expecting him to be a bit more verbal since Libras generally prefer verbal affirmation. Leos though are people of action. We show our interest by doing (verbal invitations, being close to you, etc). Yes we can be charming and use flowery words, but we also take our time opening up. We expect that if someone likes us, they'll want to be physically close to us.

The Aquarius Moon of yours is also more observant and logical, but not willing to be emotionally open. Your actions (or inaction) will therefore confuse the Leo, since you expect him to make the first step. For a Leo we need to see action from the other person as well before laying our cards on the table. Again this is the Leo/Aqua push-pull.

Your Venus and Mars placements are almost also reverse mirror images of each other. You love analytically through acts of service and attention to detail, rather than through showy displays of emotions. You love by helping and possibly making your partner into a project of yours (your Virgo Venus). Your pursuit is more sublte and kind, though you can be a bit indecisive, which may also be the energy you're attracted to (your Libra Mars).

He on the other hand is attracted to a woman with quick wit and spontoneity since these are the qualities he looks for in love. He too can have a playful air about him and can be a bit scattered and cerebral rather an emotional (Gemini Venus). His way of pursuing you will be a passive one, as he will be taking into account every single detail. He may be a bit critical as he is looking for the best match. He will also be looking for an ideal partner and may even resort to trying to "better" you (his Virgo Mars).

So this now makes more sense why he was trying to push you into joining him when he invited you out. Problem is Libras don't like to be pushed into making a decision and Aquariuses move at their own speed in the direction of their choosing. Trying to cajole you into a decision will easily result in a "No". To be honest, his best course of action would have been to invite you out and then when you said, "No" he should've responded, "Well sounds like your're tied up. Why don't we get together afterward? When are you free?"

If I had to guess, there may be too much of the same energy here between you. Problem is out of the two of you, he's the one with a more fixed emotional outlook (Leo Sun). This is overwhelming your air placements and clashing with your Aquarius Moon. Both of you are prone to passive aggressive tendencies too (Libra and Virgo placements). One of you will need to be direct if there is any hope for this to launch.

Unfortunately this thing may have died when the Leo blocked you. The only people I've blocked are people I've wanted to cut completely out of my life. If the Leo has gone cold, that may be the end of it. The only hope I can see is that his Libra Moon may not want to prolong a negative situation for too long. So there is a chance he may return
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Chuckcem thanks for all the input! So I was reading a certain post and it said for Leo men I believe that they appreciate command instead of demand. Can you elaborate on this please? Thank You?


Demanding attention means that a person is forcifully requesting attention from another. This can irritate a Leo because we don't like being forced to do anyhing or made to feel inferior. Demanding attention from us (if you're not someone we love) will backfire.

Commanding attention however means that the person is alluring, drawing a Leos attention without needing to request it. This is because the person exhibits traits that the Leo would naturally find attractive.

As a result, it's not always the loudest person in the room that will attract a Leo or even get our attention. The person who appears to be confident and alluring will command our attention most often.
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I appreciate your for elaborating. You have a very thorough and balanced understanding of all things! Wise Chuckcem Thank You. Peace. ?
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What do you guys think about this combo below? 🙂

Me (girl):

Sun - Pisces

Asc - Taurus

Moon - aquarius

Mercury - Aries

Venus - Aries

Mars - Gemini

Jupiter - Leo

Saturn - Aquarius

Uranus - Capricorn

Neptune - capricorn

Pluto - Scorpio

Lilith - Sagittarius

Asc code - Capricorn

My crush (boy):

Sun - Leo

Asc - Libra

Moon - Sagittarius

Mercury - Cancer

Venus - Gemini

Mars - Virgo

Jupiter - Libra

Saturn - Aquarius

Uranus - Capricorn

Neptune - capricorn

Pluto - Scorpio

Lilith - Aries

Asc code - Sagittarius


My guess is that he is going to be vivacious and full of adventure. He's a very social person and probably has a gift of telling jokes and stories. He can be very light and playful in love, but also a bit of a flake and scattered. He's going to get along best with a woman who can keep him mentally stimulated and who won't bore him with the weighty emotions. As a male, his Venus in Gemini means he is attracted to women who likes to converse about a variety of topics. A woman who is light hearted and witty will appeal to him. The way he pursues this woman will be an entirely different story. For all of his cheery placements, his Mars in Virgo means he will be more calculated in his approach. He may be a bit passive too, weighting to see how you fit in his world best. He's looking for an ideal situation, but will not be above "fixing" you to get it. He may also be a bit critical of both himself and the object of his affection as he try to make her "better". He comes across and charming, though a bit indecisive as well.

As for you, you're going to be a bit more detached and free flowing. You don't need to lock anyone down with labels, BUT you are looking for a soulmate. You want someone who understands you inside and out, possibly even better than you understand yourself. Your emotions can change with your environment, which can be hard for you to understand, so you find it best to detach from them. This can mean you feel out other people's emotions more so than your own. You are very direct in speech and thought, much to the surprise of those around you. You can also deceptively explosive emotions. You are quick witted too, which is a plus here and are equally vivaceous and spontaneous when in love. You can be a bit scattered in your pursuit and need a man who can communicate, but not inundate you with heavy emotions.

Oddly enough, I can see this working well as long as there is communication and adventure being shared between you. You both have a very different approach though. You will need more mental stimulation and he will be looking to own your heart eventually. You crave this as well, but will probably be harder to peg. He may give up his pursuit too early as a result.
Ouu great insights, thanks for sharing chuckcem! I didn't know so much about myself in love, your comments are a wonderful guide as I now approach relationships, thanks again! Ya I used to think as a Pisces I would come across as mushy. But I think I appear more aloof.

And as for him, he is indeed very cheery around everyone, but perhaps more quiet around me. I remember I pretty much lead the conversation when we were partnered up in class and were forced to talk one on one haha. I probably came across like a playful aries.

He was fairly quiet the whole time, and it made me think I perhaps weren't so interesting to him. I was a bit bummed, so for the remainder of semester I thought I should give him space. He was fairly distant the first semester. He even appeared annoyed at times. Can't say for sure why.

Something changed during the break we had before second semester. I wonder if it was the stress of passing first semester. When he returned, he was more friendly and stared way more often and with greater intensity. We would say hi and smile whenever we crossed paths. We are just starting to get better at holding eye contact for longer than 10 sec. I'm not sure which one of us is the more shy one. If the attraction stays like so, we might end up talking more. We shall see. He is a couple years younger than me though.

Thanks much 🙂 And good luck if you are/ plan to pursue someone!


His Libra ASC would explain that dynamic between you too. I always find it's best to have an aloof presence around air energies, but especially Libra energy. Since this is only his Rising sign though, this will fade as you ge to know him better, so don't worry about it too much.
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Can you explain this to me⁉️ I love reading your responses to anything and I need your insight on us...

Me-

Sun in 3° Sagittarius

Moon in 20° Scorpio

Mercury in 24° Scorpio

Venus in 19° Capricorn

Mars in 19° Virgo

Jupiter in 29° Libra

Saturn in 18° Libra

Uranus in 0° Sagittarius

Neptune in 23° Sagittarius

Pluto in 25° Libra

North Node in 25° Cancer (r)

Chiron in 19° Taurus (r)

Ascendant in 18° Scorpio

MC in 26° Leo

Him-

Sun in 0° Leo

Moon in 23° Aquarius

Mercury in 0° Leo (r)

Venus in 12° Virgo

Mars in 14° Capricorn (r)

Jupiter in 22° Pisces (r)

Saturn in 3° Sagittarius (r)

Uranus in 18° Sagittarius (r)

Neptune in 3° Capricorn (r)

Pluto in 4° Scorpio

North Node in 25° Aries (r)

Chiron in 18° Gemini

Ascendant in 9° Aries

MC in 5° Capricorn
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Can you explain this to me⁉️ I love reading your responses to anything and I need your insight on us...

Me-

Sun in 3° Sagittarius

Moon in 20° Scorpio

Mercury in 24° Scorpio

Venus in 19° Capricorn

Mars in 19° Virgo

Jupiter in 29° Libra

Saturn in 18° Libra

Uranus in 0° Sagittarius

Neptune in 23° Sagittarius

Pluto in 25° Libra

North Node in 25° Cancer (r)

Chiron in 19° Taurus (r)

Ascendant in 18° Scorpio

MC in 26° Leo

Him-

Sun in 0° Leo

Moon in 23° Aquarius

Mercury in 0° Leo (r)

Venus in 12° Virgo

Mars in 14° Capricorn (r)

Jupiter in 22° Pisces (r)

Saturn in 3° Sagittarius (r)

Uranus in 18° Sagittarius (r)

Neptune in 3° Capricorn (r)

Pluto in 4° Scorpio

North Node in 25° Aries (r)

Chiron in 18° Gemini

Ascendant in 9° Aries

MC in 5° Capricorn
I generally try to not make assumptions. While I can guess as to how the two of you may interact, I always believe that having some context always helps. Is there something happening between you two?
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It's pretty clear that he liked you and even though he pushed you away, it's not like you two had had a major blowout. As he mentioned, he admitted that he grew tired of your aloof nature. He felt you were too detached and didn't care about him (which I mentioned a while back would probably be the issue between you two).

To be fair he WAS done with you. If you had not contacted him, you would have never heard from him again. However because you decided to be direct and honest, instead of playing mind games, he chose to engage you in conversation. As I mentioned many times before, Leos respond best to the direct approach. We loathe passive aggressive behavior and become stubborn when we feel we're being manipulated.

He is definitely still mad if he's cold and giving you very little emotion. The idea is you're going to need to open him back up emotionally. As he already stated he didn't think you were actually into him. As a result it will take some time for him to trust your words. For Leos actions (or inaction) speak louder than words. A Leo knows that a person who is interested in us will want to be around us (that's because we have that mentality when we like someone too).

Fortunately for you, he hasn't completely iced over yet. When a Leo truly goes cold, we will ignore/block the other person indefintely (or forever). You caught him before that happened, which is why he was willing to talk to you. Deep down there was some emotion left. This is true for all fixed signs. When we say we are done with a person, there may still be some lingering emotion that keeps us vulnerable before we go completely cold. This is the last chance to reconcile with a fixed sign if you are hoping to get them back. The real question is, do you have what it takes to open him back up?

Just remember that fixed signs can be very serious about our approach to romance. You should know this since you have a fixed moon. Also know that your rebellious nature (Aqua Moon) and need to balance out your scales (Libra Sun) will rub him the wrong away. Also know that since he felt neglected/rejected the LAST thing you want to do is to give him space. He'll think you're still not interested and he'll burn the bridge. The best solution is to give the Leo the attention he desires. That way he'll actually be able to see your interest in him. Like I said before, be direct.
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So u say the last thing to do is give him space.. so does that mean that even though we had this convo just yesterday, that I need to contact him again today? Like everyday? ( I assumed since he's still kinda mad that I should not say anything today or maybe for a few days)



And does he really not see his faults in all this?

Like I've really put my pride aside, and stepped outside my comfort zone doing all this..if he were anyone else, I would of not cared and would of been blocked him n moved on, so the fact that I'm reaching out is big steps... so why can't he do the same? Like it wasn't even that serious, n for him to say he not looking for anything serious, how did all this even get to this point.. like ?..


You don't need to pester him, but now is the time to be more direct and active. Leos don't mind if you contact us with some frequency. We're fire signs, we don't need as much space an an air sign would. Also it's very hard for air signs to smother a fire sign due to your emotionally detached nature (though air can snuff out fire as you've seen). So contacting him every other day OR calling him to set up a date wouldn't be a bad plan.

Leos tend not to see our own faults, especially in the face of criticism. In his mind he was playing it cool, then mirroring you until he became upset with your aloofness. He probably sees this as you be cold and manipulative more than anything else. As I mentioned he's also probably not the most emotionally mature Leo either. He did let all of this get under his skin after all. So the likelihood of him accepting some of the blame is low.
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Well i guess it's safe to say it's come to an end.

I call myself " not giving too much space" got anxious and jumped the gun and tried to have a casual convo with him..(today, a little after your first response) and it came down to some back n forth n him saying he's over me, I act like everything is ok right, now, n I said that if you're over me then you would not be responding n holding hours of convo with me, n he responded, well I'll block you... n he did.. on every way that we had contact...so I guess that's that
Yeah I'm going to restate that you two are on completely differnet wavelengths. He's not emotionally mature and is far too sensitive for your type of communication. He's even more sensitive now due to your recent falling out. Your logical approach and detached demeanor makes him think that you're not truly interested in him. He would respond better to someone with a bubbly personality, though your aloof/mysterious nature is probably what attracted him in the first place. Sounds like you'd do better with someone who is more logical, though the Leo's warm nature is probably what attracted you to him.

Also I'm going to assume that when you spoke to him today, he was still somewhat hurt and therefore defensive. Any little thing may have set him off if you two didn't reach an understanding in your last conversation. The fact that he's blocked you twice though is childish. I wouldn't be shocked if you heard from him again because this Leo has some serious passive aggressive tendencies. My advice is to move on though, this guy has some serious growing up to do.
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Ok so I am a sag full of capricorn

My 7th is cancer with leo intercepted or in equal house system my 8th is leo

I want a leo.I just love leos! And we always have a great time together

Do you think a leo would be great for my placements?

I have leo vertex too
It always comes down to placements. I think the fact that you're a Sagittarius does help. Your Capricorn placements with your other Leo traits may make you come across as Leo-Like (though without the fixed ego). I think as long as you find a watery or earthy Leo, you'll be good to go. The trick is FINDING a watery or earthy Leo as they are not easy to spot as fiery, flashy Leos are.
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Ok so I am a sag full of capricorn

My 7th is cancer with leo intercepted or in equal house system my 8th is leo

I want a leo.I just love leos! And we always have a great time together

Do you think a leo would be great for my placements?

I have leo vertex too
It always comes down to placements. I think the fact that you're a Sagittarius does help. Your Capricorn placements with your other Leo traits may make you come across as Leo-Like (though without the fixed ego). I think as long as you find a watery or earthy Leo, you'll be good to go. The trick is FINDING a watery or earthy Leo as they are not easy to spot as fiery, flashy Leos are.

Thanks! I like all of them haha

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Hey @saggi212

I've met 2 sagi's in the last year that I really hit it off with. Lots chemistry and shared goals in the beginning

But neither of them went anywhere 😢 It felt like the Sagi female lost interest very quickly both times

Do you guys play hard to get or what?

If you're really interested in a Leo I suggest just laying it all out on the line, and then go from there...
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Ok so I am a sag full of capricorn

My 7th is cancer with leo intercepted or in equal house system my 8th is leo

I want a leo.I just love leos! And we always have a great time together

Do you think a leo would be great for my placements?

I have leo vertex too
It always comes down to placements. I think the fact that you're a Sagittarius does help. Your Capricorn placements with your other Leo traits may make you come across as Leo-Like (though without the fixed ego). I think as long as you find a watery or earthy Leo, you'll be good to go. The trick is FINDING a watery or earthy Leo as they are not easy to spot as fiery, flashy Leos are.

Thanks! I like all of them haha


Hey @saggi212

I've met 2 sagi's in the last year that I really hit it off with. Lots chemistry and shared goals in the beginning

But neither of them went anywhere 😢 It felt like the Sagi female lost interest very quickly both times

Do you guys play hard to get or what?

If you're really interested in a Leo I suggest just laying it all out on the line, and then go from there...
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Sagittarius people need a little chase for their interest to rise. They SEEM like they are playing hard to get, but if you play your cards right, they'll stare at you and try to figure you out. Be friendly and charming, but not too easy. Sag women can also take their time in he beginning before they make their pursuit obvious.
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Which Leo decans matches best with the other zodiac decans?

I would've involved other placements but not everybody knows the placements, etc.
That's a GOOD question. I'm not really sure, since decans focus on the energies of the sun signs. So with Leo the decans are Leo-Leo (1st), Leo-Sag (2nd), and Leo-Aries (3rd) energies. So it's all still fire at the end of the day. I'd imagine conflict would arise between opposite signs. For example I can see Leo-Leo having a hard time with Aqua-Aqua or Sag-Sag having a hard time with Gem-Gem.

Interestingly enough I've had more interactions with 2nd decan Aquas (Aqua-Gem) more than the other decans. One would think that Aqua-Gem energy would repel from me since I'm Leo-Sag. I don't personally know that many Aquas though and from what I can tell 3rd decan Aquas (Aqua-Libra) are pretty cool too.
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Which Leo decans matches best with the other zodiac decans?

I would've involved other placements but not everybody knows the placements, etc.
That's a GOOD question. I'm not really sure, since decans focus on the energies of the sun signs. So with Leo the decans are Leo-Leo (1st), Leo-Sag (2nd), and Leo-Aries (3rd) energies. So it's all still fire at the end of the day. I'd imagine conflict would arise between opposite signs. For example I can see Leo-Leo having a hard time with Aqua-Aqua or Sag-Sag having a hard time with Gem-Gem.

Interestingly enough I've had more interactions with 2nd decan Aquas (Aqua-Gem) more than the other decans. One would think that Aqua-Gem energy would repel from me since I'm Leo-Sag. I don't personally know that many Aquas though and from what I can tell 3rd decan Aquas (Aqua-Libra) are pretty cool too.

Ok how about the decan compatibility with Pisces decans? I saw the results and it appears that 3rd decan Pisces get along best with 2nd decan Leos. Any truth to that?

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I unfortunately have had very little personal experience with Pisces people and have not observed a Leo-Pisces relationship either. It's a dynamic I am somewhat curious to see. So I couldn't confirm or deny that.
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Which Leo decans matches best with the other zodiac decans?

I would've involved other placements but not everybody knows the placements, etc.
That's a GOOD question. I'm not really sure, since decans focus on the energies of the sun signs. So with Leo the decans are Leo-Leo (1st), Leo-Sag (2nd), and Leo-Aries (3rd) energies. So it's all still fire at the end of the day. I'd imagine conflict would arise between opposite signs. For example I can see Leo-Leo having a hard time with Aqua-Aqua or Sag-Sag having a hard time with Gem-Gem.

Interestingly enough I've had more interactions with 2nd decan Aquas (Aqua-Gem) more than the other decans. One would think that Aqua-Gem energy would repel from me since I'm Leo-Sag. I don't personally know that many Aquas though and from what I can tell 3rd decan Aquas (Aqua-Libra) are pretty cool too.

Ok how about the decan compatibility with Pisces decans? I saw the results and it appears that 3rd decan Pisces get along best with 2nd decan Leos. Any truth to that?


I unfortunately have had very little personal experience with Pisces people and have not observed a Leo-Pisces relationship either. It's a dynamic I am somewhat curious to see. So I couldn't confirm or deny that.

IRL I connect well with 1st decan Leos but on DXP 2nd decan Leos befriend me. I'm still friends with a 3rd decan LEO on here.

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Interesting, why do you think that is?
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Are you more of an extrovert or introvert?
Like most people I am an ambivert (falling somewhere in the middle). I do lean on the extroverted end of the spectrum though. I'm not an extreme extrovert by any means, but I don't lose energy by being around people. I do need to recharge from time to time, but that can happen around people because I know how to take time for myself.
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Favorite pizza toppings?! 😆
Now you're speaking my language (I may have to take your idea and turn it into a post in the Food board& Drinks).

I'm more likely to eat pepperoni, beef (steak or ground beef), and mushroom. HOWEVER, that's because I 1) grew up on it and 2) it's hard for me to find my favorite spinach pizza. A Lot of pizza places don't understand how to sautee and bake spinach into a white pizza (cheese with white sauce/alfredo). Instead many places will just add raw spinach on top of the pizza or even cook the spinach on top to a crisp. It's maddening, though I've found a few places that know how to do it right.
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Can you explain this to me⁉️ I love reading your responses to anything and I need your insight on us...

Me-

Sun in 3° Sagittarius

Moon in 20° Scorpio

Mercury in 24° Scorpio

Venus in 19° Capricorn

Mars in 19° Virgo

Jupiter in 29° Libra

Saturn in 18° Libra

Uranus in 0° Sagittarius

Neptune in 23° Sagittarius

Pluto in 25° Libra

North Node in 25° Cancer (r)

Chiron in 19° Taurus (r)

Ascendant in 18° Scorpio

MC in 26° Leo

Him-

Sun in 0° Leo

Moon in 23° Aquarius

Mercury in 0° Leo (r)

Venus in 12° Virgo

Mars in 14° Capricorn (r)

Jupiter in 22° Pisces (r)

Saturn in 3° Sagittarius (r)

Uranus in 18° Sagittarius (r)

Neptune in 3° Capricorn (r)

Pluto in 4° Scorpio

North Node in 25° Aries (r)

Chiron in 18° Gemini

Ascendant in 9° Aries

MC in 5° Capricorn
I generally try to not make assumptions. While I can guess as to how the two of you may interact, I always believe that having some context always helps. Is there something happening between you two?
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@chuckcem I've been M.I.A but I hope all is well with you. I mainly just log in to get a little insight on you Leo's. I mentioned earlier that I love reading your responses to everyone's topics. Here goes...

My 1st time seeing this Leo was on day 1 of my new job. We're both in law enforcement but when I seen him O my God I was determined to get him. We would pass each other going An coming An would often get stuck just starring at each other never really making a move. I guess I was waiting on him and he was waiting on me. The 1st time he attempted to flirt he called me an "asshole" lol. I asked him why and he couldn't say. The next time we encountered each other he joked around saying he had a strong back but I just let him talk. After all the joking he never really asked me anything he just gave me this piercing look that done something to me. Fast Forward, I finally found him on fb he excepted my request and 1 day I said fuck it an msged him. We've been talking ever since. He told me he was married, only 1 year but going through a divorce and currently separated. He didn't go into detail but he said he would tell me everything at a later time. During our conversations I asked him why he never really said anything to me and he said that (he looked at me but I didn't notice him) I said that I noticed but waited on him to say something. We text all the time. He responds quickly and refers to me as baby. I asked why he doesn't call and he said that he wasn't a man of many words but liked talking to me. He thought he was older than I because I look young for my age but he's 31 and I'm a few years older. We've met up to see each other several times and once during sex he told me he loved me but I thought he said it just because. He once asked me what I wanted out of our friendship and he asked me what we weren— He said that he couldn't be cuddling An kissing without a title— (This I'm not understanding because his divorce isn't final) so we can't really be anything more. He said I better give him some kind of title lol. I'm thinking friends with benefits is all we can be. I told him he needed to close old doors before opening new ones. Once he was going through something with his Ex-wife as he calls her and he texted me really late saying he wanted to see me because he just wanted me around and of course I met up with him. When we're together he wraps up all under me and he gives me the constant kisses I can't get enough of he says he love my scent An soft skin and told me my eyes were dangerous he's even mentioned me putting my name "on it" but I'm wondering how do I make sure that I keep him interested. How do I get him to open up. How do I get him to call instead of text. Does he mean anything he's telling me? I know there's limits until things are final with his divorce so I try not to get to close. What's your take on US and what does our chart say about US? I really like him and want to see if it could be more to US
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Favorite pizza toppings?! 😆
Now you're speaking my language (I may have to take your idea and turn it into a post in the Food board& Drinks).

I'm more likely to eat pepperoni, beef (steak or ground beef), and mushroom. HOWEVER, that's because I 1) grew up on it and 2) it's hard for me to find my favorite spinach pizza. A Lot of pizza places don't understand how to sautee and bake spinach into a white pizza (cheese with white sauce/alfredo). Instead many places will just add raw spinach on top of the pizza or even cook the spinach on top to a crisp. It's maddening, though I've found a few places that know how to do it right.


Oh boy, a spinach pizza sounds so good right now, with some grilled chicken chunks on it. Mmm... Lawwd, you've made me hungry lol

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Yeah I'll normally do spinach pizza by itself, but I've added chicken, bacon, mushroom, and onions to differents ones and they've all come out pretty good.
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Be sure to separate responses into paragraph's next time. It's difficult to read through a stream of consciousness such as this.

You don't seem terribly concerned that his divorce isn't finalized if you're hooking up and clearly becoming emotionally invested in him. Generally I would advise not to get involved with someone until their divorce is final (or at least VERY close to it). Emotions can run high during separations/divorces and people prolong their "separations" all of the time, never truly finalizing the divorce. Minds and hearts can change, which leaves any other potential partners strung along or left out in the cold. Beware of this pitfall.

If you were worried about his divorce, you should have waited and let thing progress more slowly. As you've stated you don't know much about him personally or the reason for his separation. Seeing that this bridge has already crossed though, and you ARE emotionally invested, what is it that YOU want? He's clearly opened the door for you to stake a claim and throw around labels. Leos also work best when there is a goal set for us. The direct approach is always best and we aren't ones to respond well to manipulation of passive aggressive tendencies. So again, what is it that you want out of this situation?

I do feel like there are some big red flags here. The fact that he wasn't open about the reason for his divorce leads me to believe he still has some raw emotion there. That's not a good sign for you. Another thing to know is that a Leo's emotions can run HIGH when we are vulnerable (which is true for other signs too). Make sure that this guy is truly interested in you and that your not some type of rebound. For example when he texts you late at night after dealing with his ex. Don't engage him in a paranoid way, just be honest.

As for your chart, now knowing your situation my guess would be there are going to be a LOT of red flags. As a Sagittarius you were intrigued by the Leo, but became far more entranced when you had to pursue him. Having known a few Sagittarians (including the women), the one thing I know is that a Sagittarius will chase the object of their affection if they are truly interested. This is no small feat though, as Sagittarians are able to garner a lot of attention, much like Libra. So Sag people are used to being chased. When the tables are turned and the Sagittarius is the one pursuing, the situation because more valuable.

Both of your Venus and Mars placements are pretty compatible. His Cap Mars means as a lover he will pursue you in a way that is calm, driven to succeed, methodical, while bein lusty and potentially romantic deep down. This goes well with how you present your love as a Cap Venus. Your Virgo Mars means you are analytics, potentially critical, and generally looking to acquire (or even create) a perfect mate. This means you may wind up settling for partners you need to "fix" instead of those who already offer the full package. This is because you may be a little insecure with a partner who seems "too perfect". This however goes well with his Virgo Venus as he too is looking for a partner who is more analytical, but seeking an ideal partnership.

What I find troubling are both of your moon placements. Your Moon is in Scorpio which means that while you crave deep emotional security and unwavering loyalty, you're also prone to overthinking to the point of being obessive, possible jealousy, paranoia, and other potential dark behavior. As a Scorpio Moon you may be prone to demading more from your partner emotionally that you'll be willing to give yourself. This is lightened by your Sagittarius Sun which does not put as much demand on lovers, but you will have a deep need to connect emotionally with your partner that will be hard to express. This is because Scorpio energy HATES being truly vulnerable which can agitate the devil may care attitude of Sagittarius.

The Leo however is more carefree. He is dutiful though and can be very serious when in love, which Scorpio energy craves. Like Scorpio he demands loyalty from his lover since he knows he will give everything he can to the relationship. Leos are also romantic and like Libra we can be in love with love and sometimes confuse lust for love like Scorpio. We do require utter devotion when in love, which we will also return tenfold. However this is not necessarily the case with his Moon in Aquarius.

Aquarius does deman loyatly and deep down is looking for love, but as Leo's opposite sign, goes about attaining love in a different manner. Aquarius is more cerebral and logical than Leo is. So this means that the Leo's Sun and his Aquarius Moon are in opposition to one another. He may have an idea of what he wants, but might struggle regarding how to go about it. The other thing to know is that Aquarius feels VERY deeply when in love and has a VERY hard time letting go.

So just be aware that even though he is going through a separation, he may not be completely over his ex. This is because Aquarians tend to detach their head from their heart. While this means an Aquarian can be very logical, it doesn't mean that they don't have emotions. In fact their emotions can be so bottled, that they are hard to come to terms with, even for the Aquarian. As a Moon sign, this nature will be felt more strongly. This means that even though the Leo SAYS he is over his ex, he may still feel deeply for her.

As an Aquarius Moon sign, the nature of Aquarius will be felt a lot deeper than with an Aquarius Sun. His need for freedom will make sense to you since you're a Sagittarius, but he may have moments of aloofness that will rub your Scorpio Moon the wrong way. The more attached Scorpio energy becomes, the more devotion you'll require. Demands can not be placed on Aquarius energy though, as they are natural rebels and do things on thier own time. Even when they are in love, they can still have moments of detachment. So if you're the type to obsess or be prone to paranoia, this will be something to consider.
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Be sure to separate responses into paragraph's next time. It's difficult to read through a stream of consciousness such as this.

You don't seem terribly concerned that his divorce isn't finalized if you're hooking up and clearly becoming emotionally invested in him. Generally I would advise not to get involved with someone until their divorce is final (or at least VERY close to it). Emotions can run high during separations/divorces and people prolong their "separations" all of the time, never truly finalizing the divorce. Minds and hearts can change, which leaves any other potential partners strung along or left out in the cold. Beware of this pitfall.

If you were worried about his divorce, you should have waited and let thing progress more slowly. As you've stated you don't know much about him personally or the reason for his separation. Seeing that this bridge has already crossed though, and you ARE emotionally invested, what is it that YOU want? He's clearly opened the door for you to stake a claim and throw around labels. Leos also work best when there is a goal set for us. The direct approach is always best and we aren't ones to respond well to manipulation of passive aggressive tendencies. So again, what is it that you want out of this situation?

I do feel like there are some big red flags here. The fact that he wasn't open about the reason for his divorce leads me to believe he still has some raw emotion there. That's not a good sign for you. Another thing to know is that a Leo's emotions can run HIGH when we are vulnerable (which is true for other signs too). Make sure that this guy is truly interested in you and that your not some type of rebound. For example when he texts you late at night after dealing with his ex. Don't engage him in a paranoid way, just be honest.

As for your chart, now knowing your situation my guess would be there are going to be a LOT of red flags. As a Sagittarius you were intrigued by the Leo, but became far more entranced when you had to pursue him. Having known a few Sagittarians (including the women), the one thing I know is that a Sagittarius will chase the object of their affection if they are truly interested. This is no small feat though, as Sagittarians are able to garner a lot of attention, much like Libra. So Sag people are used to being chased. When the tables are turned and the Sagittarius is the one pursuing, the situation because more valuable.

Both of your Venus and Mars placements are pretty compatible. His Cap Mars means as a lover he will pursue you in a way that is calm, driven to succeed, methodical, while bein lusty and potentially romantic deep down. This goes well with how you present your love as a Cap Venus. Your Virgo Mars means you are analytics, potentially critical, and generally looking to acquire (or even create) a perfect mate. This means you may wind up settling for partners you need to "fix" instead of those who already offer the full package. This is because you may be a little insecure with a partner who seems "too perfect". This however goes well with his Virgo Venus as he too is looking for a partner who is more analytical, but seeking an ideal partnership.

What I find troubling are both of your moon placements. Your Moon is in Scorpio which means that while you crave deep emotional security and unwavering loyalty, you're also prone to overthinking to the point of being obessive, possible jealousy, paranoia, and other potential dark behavior. As a Scorpio Moon you may be prone to demading more from your partner emotionally that you'll be willing to give yourself. This is lightened by your Sagittarius Sun which does not put as much demand on lovers, but you will have a deep need to connect emotionally with your partner that will be hard to express. This is because Scorpio energy HATES being truly vulnerable which can agitate the devil may care attitude of Sagittarius.

The Leo however is more carefree. He is dutiful though and can be very serious when in love, which Scorpio energy craves. Like Scorpio he demands loyalty from his lover since he knows he will give everything he can to the relationship. Leos are also romantic and like Libra we can be in love with love and sometimes confuse lust for love like Scorpio. We do require utter devotion when in love, which we will also return tenfold. However this is not necessarily the case with his Moon in Aquarius.

Aquarius does deman loyatly and deep down is looking for love, but as Leo's opposite sign, goes about attaining love in a different manner. Aquarius is more cerebral and logical than Leo is. So this means that the Leo's Sun and his Aquarius Moon are in opposition to one another. He may have an idea of what he wants, but might struggle regarding how to go about it. The other thing to know is that Aquarius feels VERY deeply when in love and has a VERY hard time letting go.

So just be aware that even though he is going through a separation, he may not be completely over his ex. This is because Aquarians tend to detach their head from their heart. While this means an Aquarian can be very logical, it doesn't mean that they don't have emotions. In fact their emotions can be so bottled, that they are hard to come to terms with, even for the Aquarian. As a Moon sign, this nature will be felt more strongly. This means that even though the Leo SAYS he is over his ex, he may still feel deeply for her.

As an Aquarius Moon sign, the nature of Aquarius will be felt a lot deeper than with an Aquarius Sun. His need for freedom will make sense to you since you're a Sagittarius, but he may have moments of aloofness that will rub your Scorpio Moon the wrong way. The more attached Scorpio energy becomes, the more devotion you'll require. Demands can not be placed on Aquarius energy though, as they are natural rebels and do things on thier own time. Even when they are in love, they can still have moments of detachment. So if you're the type to obsess or be prone to paranoia, this will be something to consider.
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Will do?... Oh my! Chuckcem your the truth! I love you!

I guess I'm not too concerned with his divorce being finalized because the times that he has mentioned her it's never been anything good said. He always say she's FOS. He moved out of his house that he had before he met here to avoid contact. He said they don't even communicate. When he mentioned his divorce I asked him what did he do in a joking way and he said it wasn't him. He did say a lot happened over time. The night he wanted to see me an talk it was because he had to put a restraining order against her. She moved out he changed his locks and she broke in. Until everything is cleared up he Lives at his parents house. I would like to know the truth but don't won't to sound as if I'm pressuring him to tell me. Prior to that situation His grandmother passed and he kept in touch with me but I thought she may have been around so I suggested that we not text so much and that's when he said he hadn't heard from her and that he barely talks to her so I guess that's the cause for my lack of concern for the divorce being final.

When he suggested a title I asked him what title did he want and he said he was leaving that for me to decide. The fact that he couldn't really say made me ask if we should fall back An give him time to clear things up he said he didn't won't to do that. I'm am trying to be careful with him and my feelings because I know how it could turn on me. He knows I want him he knows I like him so if I back off I'm afraid he may direct his attention elsewhere and I don't won't that. Should I give him time an see where it gets me to protect myself my feelings—

Since the talk about titles I have noticed that the msgs have slowed down when he use to text me every morning An check up on me throughout the day. I asked why and he reassures me that it's his work schedule. He works 12 hour shifts I work 10 but when I txt he responds right away. He tells me I Better not be cheating and I say the same.

I can tell that my feelings are getting involved and I don't won't to be hurt and I have thought about ending it until he's a free agent but I'm stuck.

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How do you get your absolute princess way with a leo?
As ridiculous as it may sound, "catering" to your Leo will keep him ensnared, so much so that you can basically get your way. Making suggestions instead of demands will keep him agreeable. Food and massages can go a very long way, especially is it leads to sex. EVERY Leo appreciates a good massage since it's offered to us so rarely. Basically doing that which he can't do himself or what others rarely do for him will keep him extremely loyal to you.

Just be aware that Leos men want queens not princesses. If you become moody or bratty with him, your work will be undone.
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Will do?... Oh my! Chuckcem your the truth! I love you!

I guess I'm not too concerned with his divorce being finalized because the times that he has mentioned her it's never been anything good said. He always say she's FOS. He moved out of his house that he had before he met here to avoid contact. He said they don't even communicate. When he mentioned his divorce I asked him what did he do in a joking way and he said it wasn't him. He did say a lot happened over time. The night he wanted to see me an talk it was because he had to put a restraining order against her. She moved out he changed his locks and she broke in. Until everything is cleared up he Lives at his parents house. I would like to know the truth but don't won't to sound as if I'm pressuring him to tell me. Prior to that situation His grandmother passed and he kept in touch with me but I thought she may have been around so I suggested that we not text so much and that's when he said he hadn't heard from her and that he barely talks to her so I guess that's the cause for my lack of concern for the divorce being final.

When he suggested a title I asked him what title did he want and he said he was leaving that for me to decide. The fact that he couldn't really say made me ask if we should fall back An give him time to clear things up he said he didn't won't to do that. I'm am trying to be careful with him and my feelings because I know how it could turn on me. He knows I want him he knows I like him so if I back off I'm afraid he may direct his attention elsewhere and I don't won't that. Should I give him time an see where it gets me to protect myself my feelings—

Since the talk about titles I have noticed that the msgs have slowed down when he use to text me every morning An check up on me throughout the day. I asked why and he reassures me that it's his work schedule. He works 12 hour shifts I work 10 but when I txt he responds right away. He tells me I Better not be cheating and I say the same.

I can tell that my feelings are getting involved and I don't won't to be hurt and I have thought about ending it until he's a free agent but I'm stuck.


Well aside from his pending divorce, you're actually not in a terrible position. The real issues is you don't know this guy well enough to jump in feet first. My suggestion would be to let him know that you are interested in dating him (exclusively if that makes you comfortable so that you can get to know him better). So the title you can give him is "dating". Give it a few months just so you can really feel each other out. Let him know that you DO want to get to know him better.

My only concern is that though he may SAY his ex is FOS, but I've known people to lie about these things. Hate and love take up practically the same space in the human mind. I don't advise shutting anything down if you're enjoying yourself, but be sure to remain aware. You don't know what you don't know about this guy yet.

I'm always wary of people who leave messy relationships and only have negative things to say about their exes. It shows that they may not be able to see their own faults OR choose to vilify ther other person. It could also be that his ex is a terrible person. Until he opens up and gives you more information, just be aware that there are two sides of every story. You don't need to empathize with his ex, but it will be smart to get the whole story sooner than later if you two are going to be seriously involved.

Also finding out the timeline for his divorce would be a good idea as well.
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How do you get your absolute princess way with a leo?
As ridiculous as it may sound, "catering" to your Leo will keep him ensnared, so much so that you can basically get your way. Making suggestions instead of demands will keep him agreeable. Food and massages can go a very long way, especially is it leads to sex. EVERY Leo appreciates a good massage since it's offered to us so rarely. Basically doing that which he can't do himself or what others rarely do for him will keep him extremely loyal to you.

Just be aware that Leos men want queens not princesses. If you become moody or bratty with him, your work will be undone.
Sometimes when I read what you type, it reminds me of my husband. Freakin 19 pages of Mufasa wisdom over here.

Making him food is the key to all things. Massages work like a charm and he doesnt give my bratty attitude moments the time of day LOL
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I would honeestly say the key to any Leo's heart is food and massages. Most people balk at this, even complain about it, not understanding the power it has.
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Not sure if you've been asked this already, but do Leo men typically not make the first move?


9 time out of 10 yes we will make the first move, but only when we are sure of our ability to attract the other person. We will more than likely make the first move when some interest has already been hinted at from the other person (but we may wait until we are completely certain). A Leo man will also readily pursue a woman who is direct rather than indecisive.
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Are Leos as weird as Aquarius?? Lol
Yep, but we hide it well. Leos learn to go with convention at an early age. Also Leo kids can be overly confident which makes it easy for our weirdness be viewed as "uniqueness".
lol yeah.... I've seen that side ? Dorks at heart
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Posted by cinnamonapples
Hey chuckcem and the knowledgeable people out there, I thought you had a good knowledge of astrological charts. So I thought I could ask you this. I hear that the ascendent sign is like the external mask that people wear, and most explanations out there seem to imply that it's not a very genuine aspect of our personality. However, being a taurus rising, I feel that this signs characteristics are very a kin to me, much more than what I hear about pisces sun. The most important ones being that I am always working, and a slow cautious decision maker. It's as if Im comfortable being a workaholic, and not to mention that I often get told I have such tendencies. Im not sure if the aqua moon has anything to do with this, but I wonder if the rising is really a superficial aspect. I personally feel that it is a very genuine and perhaps the most important part of my personality, work is pretty much the essence of life for me. What would you say? It definitely doesn't feel like a mask I wear.

Just trying to make sense of my work habits.
I'm with you in thinking that the ascendant isn't superficial, like some believe. I have Taurus rising too, and it forms aspects with a few things in my chart, so maybe that is part of the reason why I don't perceive it as being only a mask.
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Posted by cinnamonapples
Hey chuckcem and the knowledgeable people out there, I thought you had a good knowledge of astrological charts. So I thought I could ask you this. I hear that the ascendent sign is like the external mask that people wear, and most explanations out there seem to imply that it's not a very genuine aspect of our personality. However, being a taurus rising, I feel that this signs characteristics are very a kin to me, much more than what I hear about pisces sun. The most important ones being that I am always working, and a slow cautious decision maker. It's as if Im comfortable being a workaholic, and not to mention that I often get told I have such tendencies. Im not sure if the aqua moon has anything to do with this, but I wonder if the rising is really a superficial aspect. I personally feel that it is a very genuine and perhaps the most important part of my personality, work is pretty much the essence of life for me. What would you say? It definitely doesn't feel like a mask I wear.

Just trying to make sense of my work habits.
Well first, what are your other placements? It could be that you have a combination of placements and aspects that make you Taurus-like, which can happen because the energies are all transferable between the signs in one way or the other. Have you checked your dominant energies as well? It's possible Taurus is among them.

Beyond that, it totally makes sense that you feel like a Taurus especially at work. Think of it this way, how many people are you actually close to in your daily life? The people you interact with, would you consider them all close friends/family or are most of them acquaintances?

The reasons why you feel like a Taurus most often is because you are effectively portraying Taurus energy most of the time. Your sun sign is reserved for those who get to know you better and your moon sign is reserved for those who become very close (since it's how you feel inside). The rising sign though is what most of the world sees from you. Therefore it's the energy you're probably displaying the most in your daily life.

Also Pisces energy is more subtle than some of the other signs. Being mutable and at the end of the zodiac, Pisces energy is said to be a combination of all of the previous signs. As a result it's entirely plausible that you would feel the energy from your placements before your Pisces energy (depending on your placements and aspects of course). This is especially true for any fixed sign energy you may have. Fixed sign energy is very static, prominent, an resistant to maleability. You'll definitely feel your Taurus energy as a result.