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Hey chuckcem and the knowledgeable people out there, I thought you had a good knowledge of astrological charts. So I thought I could ask you this. I hear that the ascendent sign is like the external mask that people wear, and most explanations out there seem to imply that it's not a very genuine aspect of our personality. However, being a taurus rising, I feel that this signs characteristics are very a kin to me, much more than what I hear about pisces sun. The most important ones being that I am always working, and a slow cautious decision maker. It's as if Im comfortable being a workaholic, and not to mention that I often get told I have such tendencies. Im not sure if the aqua moon has anything to do with this, but I wonder if the rising is really a superficial aspect. I personally feel that it is a very genuine and perhaps the most important part of my personality, work is pretty much the essence of life for me. What would you say? It definitely doesn't feel like a mask I wear.

Just trying to make sense of my work habits.
I'm with you in thinking that the ascendant isn't superficial, like some believe. I have Taurus rising too, and it forms aspects with a few things in my chart, so maybe that is part of the reason why I don't perceive it as being only a mask.

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Yeah it just depends on your placements and dominant energies. Fixed sign energy is very prominent, so it can overpower other placements. Also depending on who you encounter in your daily life will determine how often you rising sign expresses itself. If you encounter coworkers and acquaintances on a daily basis (which is the case for most people), then you'll feel very Taurus-like most of the time.
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How can I, win the heart of a Leo...as an eccentric Aqua?

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From personal experience, appealing to a Leo's eccentrities goes a long way. Aquas have a way of saying what a Leo is thinking, without us having to admit it flat out. Leos are still tied to convention in some ways, we've learned the merits of finding comfort in comformity. However we still have crave the creative, the unique, escape from normal. We too like pushing the boundaries of polite society, so an Aqua can appeal to that easily.

There's also a bravery that comes with being unapologetically unique that can appeal to a Leo's sensibilities. While we may be initially attracted to an Aqua's apparent stoicism, what really reels us in is being able to connect in a way that most would consider "weird".

So the first step is making your presence known. Leos are looking for our "king/queen", so your presence should command some attention (at least ours). Then be direct and talk to the Leo, it is in this way that you'll be able to share your quirks, which may also ring true for the Leo. Just don't be TOO weird, at least not in public (until the Leo is used to it). Leo's still like to keep up appearances when in a crowd to some degree.

That's just the mental part. Leo's are still physical animals, so you need to be physically present to get us hooked. We crave someone who craves us back and we won't feel close to a partner who is physically distant. We need to touch and smell you to keep us going. So the Aqua aloofness needs to be suppressed here a bit.

Then there's the heart. A Leo who knows you have eyes for them will take you more seriously. Do know that we do get a lot of superficial attention, so we are looking for someone with consistency and depth. This is where being direct and unconventional work well together. Clearly stating your pursuit of a Leo to the point of saying it out loud (in some manner) goes a loooong way. As I mentioned before Leos respect strength, we respect the heart. Not everyone is brave enough to open up their hearts and Leos will respect this if we are the target of affection. Just make sure we are interested.
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Hey chuckcem and the knowledgeable people out there, I thought you had a good knowledge of astrological charts. So I thought I could ask you this. I hear that the ascendent sign is like the external mask that people wear, and most explanations out there seem to imply that it's not a very genuine aspect of our personality. However, being a taurus rising, I feel that this signs characteristics are very a kin to me, much more than what I hear about pisces sun. The most important ones being that I am always working, and a slow cautious decision maker. It's as if Im comfortable being a workaholic, and not to mention that I often get told I have such tendencies. Im not sure if the aqua moon has anything to do with this, but I wonder if the rising is really a superficial aspect. I personally feel that it is a very genuine and perhaps the most important part of my personality, work is pretty much the essence of life for me. What would you say? It definitely doesn't feel like a mask I wear.

Just trying to make sense of my work habits.
I'm with you in thinking that the ascendant isn't superficial, like some believe. I have Taurus rising too, and it forms aspects with a few things in my chart, so maybe that is part of the reason why I don't perceive it as being only a mask.


Ouu. I see, thanks for stopping by! Glad to know you feel the same way. Though you also made a good point about how the rising interacts with other placements. I should read more into that. Thanks!

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You're welcome. :-) Yes, take a look at your chart and see if there's anything that stands out with aspects, including if there is anything in the first house of your chart.
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How can I, win the heart of a Leo...as an eccentric Aqua?

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From personal experience, appealing to a Leo's eccentrities goes a long way. Aquas have a way of saying what a Leo is thinking, without us having to admit it flat out. Leos are still tied to convention in some ways, we've learned the merits of finding comfort in comformity. However we still have crave the creative, the unique, escape from normal. We too like pushing the boundaries of polite society, so an Aqua can appeal to that easily.

There's also a bravery that comes with being unapologetically unique that can appeal to a Leo's sensibilities. While we may be initially attracted to an Aqua's apparent stoicism, what really reels us in is being able to connect in a way that most would consider "weird".

So the first step is making your presence known. Leos are looking for our "king/queen", so your presence should command some attention (at least ours). Then be direct and talk to the Leo, it is in this way that you'll be able to share your quirks, which may also ring true for the Leo. Just don't be TOO weird, at least not in public (until the Leo is used to it). Leo's still like to keep up appearances when in a crowd to some degree.

That's just the mental part. Leo's are still physical animals, so you need to be physically present to get us hooked. We crave someone who craves us back and we won't feel close to a partner who is physically distant. We need to touch and smell you to keep us going. So the Aqua aloofness needs to be suppressed here a bit.

Then there's the heart. A Leo who knows you have eyes for them will take you more seriously. Do know that we do get a lot of superficial attention, so we are looking for someone with consistency and depth. This is where being direct and unconventional work well together. Clearly stating your pursuit of a Leo to the point of saying it out loud (in some manner) goes a loooong way. As I mentioned before Leos respect strength, we respect the heart. Not everyone is brave enough to open up their hearts and Leos will respect this if we are the target of affection. Just make sure we are interested.
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@bittercupcake Though I'll also say giving a Leo food and a massage cuts through most of this.
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How can I, win the heart of a Leo...as an eccentric Aqua?

@(*^ェ^)@
From personal experience, appealing to a Leo's eccentrities goes a long way. Aquas have a way of saying what a Leo is thinking, without us having to admit it flat out. Leos are still tied to convention in some ways, we've learned the merits of finding comfort in comformity. However we still have crave the creative, the unique, escape from normal. We too like pushing the boundaries of polite society, so an Aqua can appeal to that easily.

There's also a bravery that comes with being unapologetically unique that can appeal to a Leo's sensibilities. While we may be initially attracted to an Aqua's apparent stoicism, what really reels us in is being able to connect in a way that most would consider "weird".

So the first step is making your presence known. Leos are looking for our "king/queen", so your presence should command some attention (at least ours). Then be direct and talk to the Leo, it is in this way that you'll be able to share your quirks, which may also ring true for the Leo. Just don't be TOO weird, at least not in public (until the Leo is used to it). Leo's still like to keep up appearances when in a crowd to some degree.

That's just the mental part. Leo's are still physical animals, so you need to be physically present to get us hooked. We crave someone who craves us back and we won't feel close to a partner who is physically distant. We need to touch and smell you to keep us going. So the Aqua aloofness needs to be suppressed here a bit.

Then there's the heart. A Leo who knows you have eyes for them will take you more seriously. Do know that we do get a lot of superficial attention, so we are looking for someone with consistency and depth. This is where being direct and unconventional work well together. Clearly stating your pursuit of a Leo to the point of saying it out loud (in some manner) goes a loooong way. As I mentioned before Leos respect strength, we respect the heart. Not everyone is brave enough to open up their hearts and Leos will respect this if we are the target of affection. Just make sure we are interested.
@bittercupcake Though I'll also say giving a Leo food and a massage cuts through most of this.
LMAO ?... that's incredibly doable..! That's like my forte! I have Taurus Mars so I love food and sensuality.

Can Leos become overwhelmed, with an Aquarius, when they express themselves emotionally? ... Aquarius are usually labeled as incredibly unemotional, because we tend to suppress our emotions 9 times out of 10... so in those rare moments that an Aquarius becomes emotional or even completely straightforward, does it take you for a loop?...

I've read on Linda Goodnans description on Leo and Aqua... it says that Aquarius surprise Leos all the time but he won't show it lol due to pride

Is this true?...
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Leos are not easily overwhelmed emotionally, we are built for drama after all. Additionally the Leo/Aqua dynamic isn't terribly dissimiliar from that of a Leo/Leo dynamic. Since Leos crave passion, an outpour of emotion isn't going to scare us off (it's often what we want). Even if an Aqua exhibits an incredibly sudden shift in emotion, it's unlikely we will show our surprise.

Yes Aquas can surprise us at times. What surprises us most is how unapologetically unique Aquas can be. Leos tend to keep certain things to ourselves, which are usually the same things Aquas may blurt out randomly. This can both shock and intrigue us, which is a feeling we have to get used to after being around an Aqua. We don't like revealing our surprise though because that can lead to us being unexpectedly vulernable, so we will hide it.
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How can I, win the heart of a Leo...as an eccentric Aqua?

@(*^ェ^)@
From personal experience, appealing to a Leo's eccentrities goes a long way. Aquas have a way of saying what a Leo is thinking, without us having to admit it flat out. Leos are still tied to convention in some ways, we've learned the merits of finding comfort in comformity. However we still have crave the creative, the unique, escape from normal. We too like pushing the boundaries of polite society, so an Aqua can appeal to that easily.

There's also a bravery that comes with being unapologetically unique that can appeal to a Leo's sensibilities. While we may be initially attracted to an Aqua's apparent stoicism, what really reels us in is being able to connect in a way that most would consider "weird".

So the first step is making your presence known. Leos are looking for our "king/queen", so your presence should command some attention (at least ours). Then be direct and talk to the Leo, it is in this way that you'll be able to share your quirks, which may also ring true for the Leo. Just don't be TOO weird, at least not in public (until the Leo is used to it). Leo's still like to keep up appearances when in a crowd to some degree.

That's just the mental part. Leo's are still physical animals, so you need to be physically present to get us hooked. We crave someone who craves us back and we won't feel close to a partner who is physically distant. We need to touch and smell you to keep us going. So the Aqua aloofness needs to be suppressed here a bit.

Then there's the heart. A Leo who knows you have eyes for them will take you more seriously. Do know that we do get a lot of superficial attention, so we are looking for someone with consistency and depth. This is where being direct and unconventional work well together. Clearly stating your pursuit of a Leo to the point of saying it out loud (in some manner) goes a loooong way. As I mentioned before Leos respect strength, we respect the heart. Not everyone is brave enough to open up their hearts and Leos will respect this if we are the target of affection. Just make sure we are interested.
@bittercupcake Though I'll also say giving a Leo food and a massage cuts through most of this.
LMAO ?... that's incredibly doable..! That's like my forte! I have Taurus Mars so I love food and sensuality.

Can Leos become overwhelmed, with an Aquarius, when they express themselves emotionally? ... Aquarius are usually labeled as incredibly unemotional, because we tend to suppress our emotions 9 times out of 10... so in those rare moments that an Aquarius becomes emotional or even completely straightforward, does it take you for a loop?...

I've read on Linda Goodnans description on Leo and Aqua... it says that Aquarius surprise Leos all the time but he won't show it lol due to pride

Is this true?...
Leos are not easily overwhelmed emotionally, we are built for drama after all. Additionally the Leo/Aqua dynamic isn't terribly dissimiliar from that of a Leo/Leo dynamic. Since Leos crave passion, an outpour of emotion isn't going to scare us off (it's often what we want). Even if an Aqua exhibits an incredibly sudden shift in emotion, it's unlikely we will show our surprise.

Yes Aquas can surprise us at times. What surprises us most is how unapologetically unique Aquas can be. Leos tend to keep certain things to ourselves, which are usually the same things Aquas may blurt out randomly. This can both shock and intrigue us, which is a feeling we have to get used to after being around an Aqua. We don't like revealing our surprise though because that can lead to us being unexpectedly vulernable, so we will hide it.


So what you are basically saying is... Aquarius and Leos tend to think very much alike as they are basically the same at the core... the difference is Leo keeps information to themselves while an Aquarius (unpredictably) reveals this very same information without thinking twice about it... almost instinctively and on point to what the Leo feels. Because as you say, they are unapologetic and rarely care about expressing themselves in such a way. So Leos admire this 'devil-may care' attitude. ... am I around the ball park? Lol

So, is there a specific reason, other than being vulnerable, why a Leo wouldn't display their shock towards an Aqua? ... I'm dying to know, As I'm guilty of purposely trying to one up myself to shock a Leo... ? It's the challenging aspect for me knowing that someone almost displays an 'aloof' nature to my personality ?
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Right, that sums it up nicely. The devil may care attitude is appealing to the regal, yet savage Leo. At our core we still have a rebellious spirit much like an Aqua's. This is why many Leos work for ourselves or are in positions of fame, leadership, or power. We simply don't like being told what to do, especially if we know better.

In many ways, Leos are basically Aquas who have harnessed our creative identities for the purpose of self benefit. Instead of having our wild ideas suppressed and deemed outlandish, they were praised and exalted. This is because we were taught how to respond within convention so that our ideas would be filtered and accepted by a general public. It is in this way that Leos are also taught shame.

Leos tend to refrain from showing true shock in general, not just with Aquas (though Aquas tend to genuinely shock us the most). We are bred with the desire to lead (whether or not we are aware of astrology). If we are to lead effectively, we can not allow ourselves to appear anything less than steadfast. No one will follow a shaky leader. If a captain loses his senses in the midst of a storm, his crew will panic and possibly mutiny. By admiting surprise we lose our credibility and display vulnerability. Leos do not like to appear weak and we will save face whenever necessary.

Also remember that Leos are designed for the spotlight. If all eyes are on us, we have to keep up appearances. Leos know there is power is keeping groups of people around us. So we will stubornly refuse to be noticeably shaken shaken if we can help it.
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Ok I'm back.. so check this out, so after me n your last conversation on here( pg16 in this forum) I think... Mr.Leo texted me today,so after he said and actually did block me 2 weeks ago, he text me today and ask could I do him a favor, I told him I wasn't able, and he said ok.. so now I'm wondering , is he really that delusional that he feels he can just pop in like we left on a good note? did he really need a legit favor, or was he using his "favor" as means to see where this could go? I guess I'm just tryna see what were his real intentions
As I mentioned before this guy has already shown he has the propensity to flip flop. He has too many passive aggressive tendencies. He blocked you because he was upset, but also because he wanted to get a rise out of you. He cames back to see if you were "missing" him.

More than likely he just said he needed a favor as a way to open communication with you again, though it's possible that he may actually need something. The only way to know for sure is to talk to him.
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How can I win the heart of this leo man with an opposition Moon - Jupiter and and opposition Mars - Neptune?

We have a huge crush on each other but he is sometimes soooo silent and I'd like to make him more cofortable

My chart

Sun in Scorpio 7.20

Ascendant in Scorpio 22.29

Moon in Virgo 6.20

Mercury in Scorpio 7.46

Venus in Virgo 20.52

Mars in Virgo 19.13

Jupiter in Sagittarius 12.17

Saturn in Scorpio 7.16

Uranus in Sagittarius 7.29

Neptune in Sagittarius 27.13

Pluto in Libra 29.47

Lilith in Aquarius 25.23

Asc Node in Gemin 16.19

His chart

Sun in Leo 4.32

Moon in Sag 26.47

Mercury in Leo 28.59

Venus in Gemini 23.07

Mars in Gemini 6.57

Jupiter in Gemini 25.31

Saturn in Leo 18.18

Uranus in Scorpio 7.44

Neptune in Sagittarius 13.35

Pluto in Libra 11.47

Lilith in Gemini 10.39

Asc Node in Libra

Thanks Chuckcem
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Am a sagitarius My Leo man left me because he said he wanted to be on his own and he feels better on his own.

We had a 3 year relationship good days but bad downs as always fighting because he does not want to settle down and drinks alcohol nearly every other night and stays out all night till 5am!

We have had no contact for 4 months and normally when we argue I always beg him back and call him or make some sort of contact.. think he is waiting for that .. he never says sorry even if it's him in the wrong. Does not care about my tears or feelings?? What's should I do? I want to know what goes thru his head as a Leo man? Should ubwant will he come back? Or should I not bother and move on? Am so sorry am so confused
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How can I win the heart of this leo man with an opposition Moon - Jupiter and and opposition Mars - Neptune?

We have a huge crush on each other but he is sometimes soooo silent and I'd like to make him more cofortable

My chart

Sun in Scorpio 7.20

Ascendant in Scorpio 22.29

Moon in Virgo 6.20

Mercury in Scorpio 7.46

Venus in Virgo 20.52

Mars in Virgo 19.13

Jupiter in Sagittarius 12.17

Saturn in Scorpio 7.16

Uranus in Sagittarius 7.29

Neptune in Sagittarius 27.13

Pluto in Libra 29.47

Lilith in Aquarius 25.23

Asc Node in Gemin 16.19

His chart

Sun in Leo 4.32

Moon in Sag 26.47

Mercury in Leo 28.59

Venus in Gemini 23.07

Mars in Gemini 6.57

Jupiter in Gemini 25.31

Saturn in Leo 18.18

Uranus in Scorpio 7.44

Neptune in Sagittarius 13.35

Pluto in Libra 11.47

Lilith in Gemini 10.39

Asc Node in Libra

Thanks Chuckcem


Some context will help. What indications has he given to show he has a crush on you?
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Am a sagitarius My Leo man left me because he said he wanted to be on his own and he feels better on his own.

We had a 3 year relationship good days but bad downs as always fighting because he does not want to settle down and drinks alcohol nearly every other night and stays out all night till 5am!

We have had no contact for 4 months and normally when we argue I always beg him back and call him or make some sort of contact.. think he is waiting for that .. he never says sorry even if it's him in the wrong. Does not care about my tears or feelings?? What's should I do? I want to know what goes thru his head as a Leo man? Should ubwant will he come back? Or should I not bother and move on? Am so sorry am so confused
The issue here has nothing to do with astrology or the fact that this guy is a Leo. This guy clearly doesn't care about you enough to regard any of your feelings. It also sounds like you not respecting yourself and begging for his contact has prompted him to lose all respect for you. Remember that you can't expect anyone to truly love you until you truly love yourself. You are not loving yourself when you allow him to walk over you like this. People will only treat you the way you allow them to treat you.

This is not a healthy relationship, nor one you should be looking to pursue any further. It's time to find someone better and leave this toxic person behind.
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Because he said so : )

He also told me that I impress him, that I am special for him.

He shares secrets and trusts me with families issues.

We have been seeing each other for 4 months.

My scorp mind feels he his sincere, sometimes very open.....but sometimes very detached .
So does he have a crush on you or are you two seeing each other? If you're seeing each other, then you've moved past a crush.

The best thing to do is to stop overanalyzing and simply talk to him. With Leos the direct approach is best. He also has a Sag moon with a lot of Gemini placements. His nature will be more adventurous and light hearted. He's going to value spontaneity and good conversation. He has an inquisitve mind and will value someone who is just as curious and witty as he is.

He himself may not pursue you directly, at least not emotionally. If he seems uncomfortable or shy, just get him talking about different fun topics. Don't try to overwhelm him with to much emotion. Likewise be direct, if you find youself playing mind games or using silly tactics to get his attention he may get bored and lose interest once he realizes he's being manipulated. Therefore avoid any passive aggressive methods.
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So, I met this guy and he's really peaked my interest. Unfortunately, he's very unpredictable. I've never dated a Leo before and I could use some sound advice. It's only been a couple of weeks, I can't even say that we're dating but I'm the beginning stage. We are both looking for a serious relationship. I'm divorced, he's been engaged. To back up a bit. I'm a Virgo and I'm about 3 years older than him. I'm black and he's white. Sooo.... he texted me yesterday and I had no idea who he was------ I reset my phone and didn't back it up since I'd saved his number. So I lost some contact and lots of beautiful selfies!!! So his response was, "Wow" "that's low" "that's real low" "it's ok", so I after explaining that I really didn't know his responded again with "you deleted our messages and butter? It's the white kid , I get it" and BAM!! I was blocked. I tried texting him to explain from a texting app because I was blocked, I even changed my phone number to text him, basically pleading with him to unblock me. NOT ONE RESPONSE!! ZERO. He gets pretty busy and doesn't always text or communicate the way I'd like to, but he always does! Always. He mentioned when we exchanged numbers and started talking that he wanted to take things slow. Kinda hard for me because I fall pretty quickly for guys (Virgo) but I was willing to take him up on the offer. My question is, should I walk away now and completely forget about any hopes of reigniting anything? Do I still have a chance? And how do I get him back, and KEEP HIM!?

Sorry for the long post, please help.
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So, I met this guy and he's really peaked my interest. Unfortunately, he's very unpredictable. I've never dated a Leo before and I could use some sound advice. It's only been a couple of weeks, I can't even say that we're dating but I'm the beginning stage. We are both looking for a serious relationship. I'm divorced, he's been engaged. To back up a bit. I'm a Virgo and I'm about 3 years older than him. I'm black and he's white. Sooo.... he texted me yesterday and I had no idea who he was------ I reset my phone and didn't back it up since I'd saved his number. So I lost some contact and lots of beautiful selfies!!! So his response was, "Wow" "that's low" "that's real low" "it's ok", so I after explaining that I really didn't know his responded again with "you deleted our messages and butter? It's the white kid , I get it" and BAM!! I was blocked. I tried texting him to explain from a texting app because I was blocked, I even changed my phone number to text him, basically pleading with him to unblock me. NOT ONE RESPONSE!! ZERO. He gets pretty busy and doesn't always text or communicate the way I'd like to, but he always does! Always. He mentioned when we exchanged numbers and started talking that he wanted to take things slow. Kinda hard for me because I fall pretty quickly for guys (Virgo) but I was willing to take him up on the offer. My question is, should I walk away now and completely forget about any hopes of reigniting anything? Do I still have a chance? And how do I get him back, and KEEP HIM!?

Sorry for the long post, please help.
Sorry, I totally missed this.

So the first thing you need to do is cool your jets. You've only known this guy for two weeks. I'd safely say that you're not dating. I'm going to go ahead and say that this Leo is NOT the one. As you've mentioned you tend to fall for guys fast, so you are missing the major red flags here. If a Leo blocks you that typically means he's no longer interested.

However given the situation, this guy clearly overreacted. If you've tried using different methods to contact him and he's still ignoring you, that means he's being extremely passive aggressive. He's punishing you for something that isn't your fault. He's doing this A) because he knows he overreacted and is too proud to admit it, B) his self esteem is so low that he doesn't believe you, or C) he using this as a control tactic to get you to chase him (again due to low self esteem).

The problem is, you don't want to date a guy who is passive aggressive and too proud to admit his mistakes. Communication is key to any healthy relationship and he clearly does not value that. Also if his self esteem is so low that he naturally thinks the worst about you, that's also not a good sign.

Also remember that Leos respond to strength. If you continue chasing the Leo after he's made it clear that he's ignoring you, then you'll only lose his respect by chasing him. My advice is to back off and go about your life. This is too much drama for only the first two weeks. If it's difficult now, imagine how awful an actual relationship will be with this person.
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What is the best way to go let the leo I've been seeing know I'd like the ? more frequently and secure the fwb thing?
Simple, tell him.

If you only want a fwb, that shouldn't be difficult to procure. He'd only say "No" if he was uninterested (unlikely) OR if he only wants a serious commitment. If the former is the case, just find a guy who is actually interested in you. Chasing a person who is not interested in you is a waste of your time. If the latter is the case, he probably can't handle a fwb situation. Best to not to force it on him.

If you actually like him and want something more serious from him, be upfront about it. Leos respond best to the direct approach. Anything more subtle than that runs the risk of going over our heads entirely.
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What is the best way to go let the leo I've been seeing know I'd like the ? more frequently and secure the fwb thing?
Simple, tell him.

If you only want a fwb, that shouldn't be difficult to procure. He'd only say "No" if he was uninterested (unlikely) OR if he only wants a serious commitment. If the former is the case, just find a guy who is actually interested in you. Chasing a person who is not interested in you is a waste of your time. If the latter is the case, he probably can't handle a fwb situation. Best to not to force it on him.

If you actually like him and want something more serious from him, be upfront about it. Leos respond best to the direct approach. Anything more subtle than that runs the risk of going over our heads entirely.
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Hmmm, ok I'll take your advice and be upfront. Thanks!
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So I recently broke up with my leo boyfriend because he couldn't tell me where the relationship was going and I felt that he was seeing someone on the side. I voiced my concerns to him and I let him know that it hurt to tell him those things. His birthday is coming up in a few days. Prior to breaking up I booked a concert for us, its TONIGHT! We are going together I am picking him up, I really want him back which he knows, but he isn't showing much interest in me at the moment. How can I win him back again? Or consider this a dead end situation?
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Posted by _scorpiomuse
So I recently broke up with my leo boyfriend because he couldn't tell me where the relationship was going and I felt that he was seeing someone on the side. I voiced my concerns to him and I let him know that it hurt to tell him those things. His birthday is coming up in a few days. Prior to breaking up I booked a concert for us, its TONIGHT! We are going together I am picking him up, I really want him back which he knows, but he isn't showing much interest in me at the moment. How can I win him back again? Or consider this a dead end situation?
You're setting yourself up for a murky situation. You let go of the Leo because he couldn't clarify the relationship with you and you were concerned that he was being unfaithful. The question is why? I ask because Scorpio energy tends to be paranoid. That's not to say that you're wrong. What made you feel that he was seeing someone else?

Basically if the Leo's mindset hasn't changed, trying to get back with him won't do you any good. The main issue that prompted your break up will still be there. You need to be strong and hold stand your ground on your principles. Though more details regarding your break up would be helpful.

Unless you get some clarity, don't expect anything. I'd say that you should consider not going to this concert (unless you're fine with going just as friends), but it may be too late for that. If he was being unfaithful, going to this concert won't help you. If he was being honest, then you'll need to speak with him and apologize for your paranoia. As I mentioned, more details would help.
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I came across a few leos recently. Some of them americans, very fierce. Maybe they are just bad examples and are not representatory for you all, but anyway, I have questions about that.



Why do you guys demand and not ask? What makes you think that you are entitled to do that. Unless you

are in a superior position (parent, boss) you ve got shit to say.

Why some of you tell people what to do? The only appropiate Context for that is the military and the workplace.

I guess I had to deal with a megalomaniacs. But do you understand the attitude behind that behavior?

Is that part of beinfg very confident and being a leader by nature?

Do you have to be fierce and demanding in the american coporate Culture? Here in Germany everybody

is levelheaded and precise in our language. We get irritated when we here stuff like I want, thats unacceptable etc? Eh, So what? Your Problem? you are not the boss? Is that american mentality?

Do the women have to wear the pants in a relationship?



Now I want to say something positive about you too. You are very warmhearted and kind. I have a leowomen in my social circle who knows that her hug and huge smile makes me feel good instantly, so she deliberately does that whenever I am down, like immediately. She turns around and smiles and says something nice and funny in a matter of a second before I am even aware that I will even begin to feel bad. She knows how I will react before me. Talk about manipulation. Manipulation can be positive too. Is she into me or just an awesome friend? People often think that, when you are just being nice. How can I find that out without causing any friction in our friendship?
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I came across a few leos recently. Some of them americans, very fierce. Maybe they are just bad examples and are not representatory for you all, but anyway, I have questions about that.



Why do you guys demand and not ask? What makes you think that you are entitled to do that. Unless you

are in a superior position (parent, boss) you ve got shit to say.

Why some of you tell people what to do? The only appropiate Context for that is the military and the workplace.

I guess I had to deal with a megalomaniacs. But do you understand the attitude behind that behavior?

Is that part of beinfg very confident and being a leader by nature?

Do you have to be fierce and demanding in the american coporate Culture? Here in Germany everybody

is levelheaded and precise in our language. We get irritated when we here stuff like I want, thats unacceptable etc? Eh, So what? Your Problem? you are not the boss? Is that american mentality?

Do the women have to wear the pants in a relationship?



Now I want to say something positive about you too. You are very warmhearted and kind. I have a leowomen in my social circle who knows that her hug and huge smile makes me feel good instantly, so she deliberately does that whenever I am down, like immediately. She turns around and smiles and says something nice and funny in a matter of a second before I am even aware that I will even begin to feel bad. She knows how I will react before me. Talk about manipulation. Manipulation can be positive too. Is she into me or just an awesome friend? People often think that, when you are just being nice. How can I find that out without causing any friction in our friendship?
Part one of your post: This is not a LEO

attribute so much as that of many Americans --

and I am not a fan, either.

I've posted about it on more than one occasion.

I forget that people aren't like that in Europe.

I almost fell off my barstool in Wales when I

first noticed this... so embarrassing. o.O



Part two of your post: Tread lightly here.

This is a mistake I have made in the past-- can't

be quite as authentic with men because they

don't know how to take it.

You seem to understand that though.

She is definitely an awesome friend, who seems

to genuinely think a lot of you... that's not 'just

being nice.'

Beyond that, it's hard to say.

I don't have that comfort level, if I'm smitten.

If you don't hug me back, I'd have to go

somewhere and quietly die... too risky.



😢

Anyway, the shortest distance between two

points is a straight line-- ask her.

Or tell her (with a smile)-- careful, youre going

to give me the wrong idea.. or however that

would look coming from you.

Watch her face when you do... that should tell

you what you need to know.

🙂







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Umm how knowledgeable are u on scorpios?!

I had to come to the Leo forum, because I know that this is where u be... but if u get a chance go check out my topic I posted under Scorpio forum... I love your insight on the things so ...
Got it, just responded. Basically if the Scorpio is around and trying to subtly learn more about you (and spend time with you), they are usually interested.
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Posted by Parkourler


Part two of your post: Tread lightly here.

This is a mistake I have made in the past-- can't

be quite as authentic with men because they

don't know how to take it.

You seem to understand that though.

She is definitely an awesome friend, who seems

to genuinely think a lot of you... that's not 'just

being nice.'

Beyond that, it's hard to say.

I don't have that comfort level, if I'm smitten.

If you don't hug me back, I'd have to go

somewhere and quietly die... too risky.



😢

Anyway, the shortest distance between two

points is a straight line-- ask her.

Or tell her (with a smile)-- careful, youre going

to give me the wrong idea.. or however that

would look coming from you.

Watch her face when you do... that should tell

you what you need to know.

🙂









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I don`t want to be one of those needy guys who claws to every straw. Just because she is nice doesnt mean that there is something going on. She might really think high of me , but that doesn`t mean infatuation. I think she likes my personality, we always click in deep conversation and always asks me in discussions.

I really really like her, I will deepen the bond and our friendship. You gals are so likeable I constantly feel the need to hug you and make you smile. I mean all of you leo people, that`s a shoutout to all leos men and women. Maybe I do something with her without the group. We both like hiking and constantly trying new things.
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Posted by LivenLuv
How the heck are you all so strong? I've seen my Dad cry one time. Literally once when our German Shephard had to be put down. Ah he loved that dog so much.

My Leo grandmother who was the same. So strong and loving and never saw her cry. I admire your strength. But really how do you all do it? I listen to music and cry all the time lol 😢
Not all Leos are this way, some can be very sensitive. Though from what I've witnessed there are the Leos who either aren't afraid to cry in public or those who rarely cry at all. Leos have a lot of pride, so if a Leo does cry, it's usually either around loved ones or in private.

Also remember that Leos are positive people in general. We're always looking on the bright side. This is because feeling sad can REALLY slow a Leo down. So if we can refrain from crying and feeling sad, we typically will.
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How do you guys deal with conflict?

For instance this leo man I met over one year ago (we don't talk anymore) - we got into an argument over guns (I'll spare the details to stay on my point). I didn't know the other side of the story so ended up saying something that was entirely the opposite of what he thought. And he got extremely upset about it - called me "an idiot", "bozo", and yelled at me for a good couple minutes. I was very hurt when he did that - I'm pisces. I could sense his passion for the topic, but was unaware that my words would offend him so much.

I wanted to air out our talk, but also thought that I should be honest. I told him that I felt very hurt about the fact that he called me names, and that my words might have been uninformed or partially informed, but it was all unintentional. I also clarified that I never tried to belittle him or really argue with him, but only tried to express what I thought, and had no idea that it would offend him, and additionally, that I never thought my words were idiotic, although not fully researched. He did say sorry, but we basically stopped talking after that - there were other arguments, but I think this one was a major player in distancing us. Lol since then, I've made a point to think a lot before I speak, and especially when in the vicinity of a leo.

Not that I am interested in returning, but since I am surrounded by leo guys, I would like to know if there is a general theme to negotiating reasonably with you guys. He was a gemini moon and scorpio mars I think, if that helps. Let me know what you think - leo women and men are welcome!
That sounds like more of an isolated incident. For whatever reason this guy felt very strongly about the topic and handled it in an immature fashion. What is his Mercury placement?

Unless you are insulting or criticzing a Leo, we generally won't take offense. Emotionally mature Leos won't be insulted by constructive criticism either. You shouldn't feel compelled to second guess expressing your own opinion to anyone.

Sounds like this guy was just too immature to handle the fact that someone had a different opinion than his. Unfortunately it's hard to reason with people like that and it's best to remove them from your life.
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How do you guys deal with conflict?

For instance this leo man I met over one year ago (we don't talk anymore) - we got into an argument over guns (I'll spare the details to stay on my point). I didn't know the other side of the story so ended up saying something that was entirely the opposite of what he thought. And he got extremely upset about it - called me "an idiot", "bozo", and yelled at me for a good couple minutes. I was very hurt when he did that - I'm pisces. I could sense his passion for the topic, but was unaware that my words would offend him so much.

I wanted to air out our talk, but also thought that I should be honest. I told him that I felt very hurt about the fact that he called me names, and that my words might have been uninformed or partially informed, but it was all unintentional. I also clarified that I never tried to belittle him or really argue with him, but only tried to express what I thought, and had no idea that it would offend him, and additionally, that I never thought my words were idiotic, although not fully researched. He did say sorry, but we basically stopped talking after that - there were other arguments, but I think this one was a major player in distancing us. Lol since then, I've made a point to think a lot before I speak, and especially when in the vicinity of a leo.

Not that I am interested in returning, but since I am surrounded by leo guys, I would like to know if there is a general theme to negotiating reasonably with you guys. He was a gemini moon and scorpio mars I think, if that helps. Let me know what you think - leo women and men are welcome!
That sounds like more of an isolated incident. For whatever reason this guy felt very strongly about the topic and handled it in an immature fashion. What is his Mercury placement?

Unless you are insulting or criticzing a Leo, we generally won't take offense. Emotionally mature Leos won't be insulted by constructive criticism either. You shouldn't feel compelled to second guess expressing your own opinion to anyone.

Sounds like this guy was just too immature to handle the fact that someone had a different opinion than his. Unfortunately it's hard to reason with people like that and it's best to remove them from your life.
Ah I see. Thanka for your insights 🙂

Ya I definitely agree on him feeling very strongly on a certain side of the topic. And no I don't think I could ever fully agree with him or change my take, though of course appreciate a very different pov such as his.

I have seen a similar tendency in a good old leo friend of mine, though eventually I can make my point but that usually involves a lot of energy on my part. It seems to me that some might take it as a personal attack when it's not really the case. I also think they realize this later, and are usually good at calming themselves down if given the time.

What would you suggest is a good way to reason out though with a leo? I have noticed that the argument has to have some real good evidence just like any other argument lol, but I am wondering if you guys are more inclined to listen to a loud/ more assertive person than a quieter one (I'm definitely lacking on the loud side Teehee) Looking for some advice, an example would be great! Who knows, I end up having a leo boss in the hospital haha
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You don't need to be loud actually. Leo is a stubborn sign because it is a fixed sign. This can come out when we argue. We will make a point and stand our ground adamantly. This isn't to say that we can't be educated or coerced into a different manner of thinking though. The easiest way to convey an idea to a Leo is by being firm yet calm. This is advice I'd give if you were dealing with any stubborn person in general.

A very easy way to argue with a Leo is two first not make it seem like an argument in the first place, but rather a discussion. That way the Leo won't go on the defense. Leos can get very passionate about their strong opinions, which there are many. Raising your voice or getting irate will only escalate the argument to an unproductive place. It's easiest to control the conversation with a cool head.

Secondly, knowing the facts is a key component. While Leos can be stubborn, we also detest small thinking. We like to think big and love grand ideas. As a result we can be open to hearing out the other side of an argument as long as we don't feel personally attacked (which can vary greatly per Leo). Likewise if a person proves themselves to be knowledgeable, it may be much easier to "argue" with a Leo in the future. This is also because Leo's respect strength. Someone who can stand up to us won't go unnoticed.

So just because a Leo challenges you, don't let it ruffle your feathers. Simply control the conversation by being direct and emotionally collected. Also know that there are some people whose opinions you won't be able to change. Likewise there will be some who simply won't listen to reason.
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Posted by BoboBear13
Will try and keep this short as am sure this has been asked before but I only joined tonight and have only ever *dated* one Leo.

Recently joined an online dating site. Started chatting to Mr Leo - text, long emails and long phone calls which went on for six weeks [I was poorly so couldn't meet straight away]. We met for a dog walk, chatted easily to one another and met again for more dog walks. He would hug me goodbye but it was like hugging a plank of 4x4. He constantly tried fault picking my grammar which was perfectly correct, my music likes received an *oh .....* and when I asked if he would like to share a drink one night, he talked round and round in riddles. Communication went down to twice weekly emails, he wrote an email asking me questions to which I responded and I never heard another word. After three weeks of overthinking [am a Scorpio, Gem moon, Scorp Venus], I wrote an email thanking him for his time and friendship and wishing him well for the future. Zilch response. Four weeks later, because I am a tw*t [insert choice of vowel], I sent him a happy birthday text which did at least get acknowledged and I was thanked even so he couldn't resist spelling a word I had used in a different manner.

My question; is this usual behaviour for a Leo male? We are both in our 50's, he is four years older than me. I am sort of wary now of meeting another Leo as have recently been contacted by one.

Any advice//thoughts would be much appreciate. x
Well first, this guy sounds rigid. I've known a few rigid Leos (they were usually 1st decan) and they all had some serious insecurity issues. Not every Leo is confident in themselves, so to make up for that they become rigid and arrogant to hide their insecurities. I imagine that's what you're dealing with here. I wouldn't say this is typical behavior though. Leos are usually warm, sociable, and our hugs defnitely don't feel like wood. Do you happen to know his placements?

That being said, astrology aside, it doesn't sound like you've known this guy for a long time. I wouldn't spend too much time thinking about a person who can't communicate properly or show affection. Regardless of what his "reasons" are, he's not the right fit for you. From your placements it looks like you'll need way more intensity and mental stimulation than this guy can provide. It's possible he's just not inot you, it's also possible he's got issues. Whatever the case is, you at least know that he's not worth your time.
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Posted by Ellygant
My Leo crush is weird.

One minute he's painfully awkward and nervous. I'd say like 70-80% of the time. But when he turns on the charm, it's 1000 watt smooth operator. Such a turn around I find myself wondering where tf it came from.

I've never noticed this with other Leos. Most I've met before are gregarious and consistently pursuant. This dude seems lost (and to be frank almost a little dull) one second then the next he's throwing out sharp remarks, pointed and direct observations, pithy comebacks and quick wit (aka Scorpio catnip((scorpionnip??)).

I guess my question is why? Any other Leos like this or known others like this?

For reference, charts below:

Him

Leo Sun

Taurus Moon

Cancer Mercury

Virgo Venus

Gemini Mars

Me

Sag Rising

Scorpio Sun, Mercury, Venus

Cancer Moon

Gemini Mars
Well not all Leos are built the same. As I mentioned in your other post, slow and steady will win the race here. His Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, and Gemini placements will mean that he'll be slow to open up emotionally.

Tauruses take their time to become comfortable and can not be rushed. In fact rushing a Taurus will make them uncomfortable and stubborn. A Taurus' comfort is paramount, so don't rush them. They make decisions/moves on their own time. As a Taurus Moon he will feel this more readily, only wanting to be in peaceful situations. This may make him seem a bit "dull".

Likewise with his Virgo in Venus, he will not be overly showy. Instead his affection will be VERY lowkey. He will come across as more helpful and friendly as opposed to "romantic". Virgos can be sarcastic and blunt, since they like to deal with facts opposed flowery language. Hence why he seems a bit "frank" and "dull". Likewise Virgo energy can be critical and overly analytical. As a Virgo Venus, he probably wants to do things perfectly, which may make him seem a bit "nervous".

The other thing to know is his Cancer Mercury will make him seem hesitant or "nervous". Having this placement myself, Cancer Mercury people can come across as if we are either afraid to speak or hiding something. Hence why he seems "awkward". The truth is we understand the power of words and how they tie into emotions. Hence we do not speak without thinking first. We appear to be slow thinkers, but in reality we are letting multiple ideas gestate in our minds. The more we observe, the more intuitive we become about our environment. Hence his "pointed" and "direct observations".

Being a Leo rest assured that he's not afraid to speak, nor is he afraid of confrontation, but he doesn't desire it. He probably learned that the bluntness of his words can often offend, so he chooses to think things through first. If you force him to think/talk quickly, you may not like the result as Leos can be extremely judgemental and opinionated. You've already witnessed this in his "sharp remarks"

As a Gemini Mars, he will be wordsmith (which you will understand as a Gemini Mars yourself). He will pursue you using his mind and his words first and foremost (so you will notice more of his Cancer Mercury traits). This will also mean that he will be adept at "pithy comebacks" and having a "quick wit".

Also realize that while you both have Gemini Mars placements (air), this may not vibe with each of your respective Venus or Moon signs (earth & water). Additionally his Gemini Mars pursuit may not seem intense enough for your Scorpio placements. The key between you two will be focusing on mental stimulation.
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Posted by Chuckcem
I feel as if this post has been done before...Heck I may have done one a year ago. There seem to be a lot of questions regarding Leos (a lot about Leo Men too). So if you don't feel like posting a new topic but just want to pick a Leo;s brain, feel free. Fellow Leos please chime in as well.

Here are some brainstorming questions to get the ball rolling. Feel free to answer:

What is the most you've spent on a first date? (Because we love our grand gestures don't we?)

What is your favorite sexual position? (Because...yeah...)

What is the largest number of suitors or romantic prospects you've had at any one time?

Have you ever cheated on someone? (Only the bold should answer this one)

What was your favorite subject in school?





I am new to this site but... Honestly really at my wits end for answers about this Leo male. I guess not too much at my wits end because I am not going to the actual person. But i digress.... I have a question about what this Leo male is possibly doing?!? He is sun leo july 25th and japanese and black and 30 yrs (im hoping a Leo around his age would offer perspective that i'll have peace of mind) i was friends with him in highschool and he was 2 years younger than me and used to try to persue me but i was older honestly and really into well, myself. Fast forward i had a collge period where we tried to hang but i was really oblivious to him still maybe having feelings for me (gemini problems). Then years later i found him on instagram and he started liking all my pictures and asked for my snapchat and he started messaging me from that social platform. At this time i was in a relationship that was on social media so he knew and ... Behind closed doors beginning to seem like a disaster... But i was keeping up a strong front honestly.. Well because pride ? lol. I was starting to notice he was flirting and i was not flirting but not ignoring him (like i do anyone flirting with me while in a relationship). I didnt watch his stories at first but i started to and saw that... Well frankly he grew up nice lol and i went into this spiral of being attracted and then just honestly completely smitten. I separated from who i was with for a period because we werent foing well and i was "safety" flirting with this Leo because i honestly didnt know what i was doing. He would message me and be really bold but respectful but never say "i like you" "im trying to see you" it was always like "whats up with you", "oh i see your here or there..." "i see you cooked make me something" beat around the bush stuff that if i acted too boldly might make me look stupid... And then like send me him literally dancing to a song that seems like our situation of being into each other or a video of him lip synching to a song which was super super cute but... How do i respond to that? ... Fast forward he was also persuing a girl from out of the country who (is not cuter than me fyi lol she looks like the rapper TI wife Tiny mean but hey my names not on this whats the chances anyone i know will see it ?) she is super into him and after visiting him 3 times wants to move to where he lives! Im into him too but i have... A lot to consider to say the least and not get into that too much. When i saw that she moved out here and he wouldnt put her face on his snap story but the back of her head or subtle stuff where you know on the social site we talk on i got super butt hurt and unfollowed him for like 4 months and then i was curious and refollowed him and she was still there and i didnt unfollow because i decided i didnt want to look even more weird and hung up and i decided id have to just get over it by any means necessary and do me. he went back to watching everything i posted and i sent him a happy bday text and he thanked me with lots of emojis but that was it. ITs been 2 months. I thought we were both fine just following each other on snapchat and he watched evvery one of my snaps yesterday then unfollowed me yeserday.. Rando. (deep exhale) of course theres more but whats the general consensus—? Hopefully something that gives me peace of mind. I am not going to front i really like him still and idk what it is... its magnetic and like hes unexplainably irresistable... And now i feel like... Idk.. I dont like it though... Whats the perspective on his deal?(and i get it would be assuming)

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Posted by Ellygant
What is going on?

😕 🤔

So the Leo crush and I have been mutually flirting for about two months. More intensely the last few weeks since I've been reciprocating more finally.

But I tried to casually ask him to drinks after work and then he was weird. Didn't say no, but didn't go out. Granted it was more of a Jedi mind asking than direct. 'So I hear you were meeting me out for drinks tonight? 12:30, right? Or did you say later?' I asked in he middle of a shift and he seemed like he was going to go. Then the last hour he mentioned he was tired and it was late and it never happened. After that my super sensitive self felt rejected and has kind of cooled off since. So now he's acting weird too. ??

I thought for sure I was reading the signs right.

-He stays an hour after work every night to sit and talk to me.

-I've hung out with him and his brother/sister-in-law a few times and they always comment how he's extra clean or courteous or dressed up when I'm around compared to normal.

-Anytime I hang out with his sister in law (who's my friend) he always facetimes her. She says in the nine years she's known him he has not once ever facetimed anyone except when I'm around.

-At least once a week when we sit and have our long chats at work he calls them dates.

-When other women hit on him and ask them out he always turns them down readily and avoids them. Even joking, he does so.

-Jokes about taking me out daily, but never does directly.

-Touches and teases me in ways he doesn't other women.

-His sis in law and bro always comment how he's extra flirtatious towards me.

His sister in law and other friends make comments about how he is terrible with women, awkward, says the wrong things accidentally etc. so that's why I thought to kinda sorta ask myself. Especially since he's like me and doesn't sleep much at night, and stays up till 2/3 AM most nights. But apparently, nah.

I'm super sensitive too so that not panning out is enough to make me full on drop everything. Idk. Am I overreacting? Was I being too hopefully and reading it wrong? #confused
Hahah you are overreacting. I'll say it again, slow and steady wins the race here. I usually say that the guy should typically be the one initiating dates. A guy who is too timid to ask a woman out, may be timid in other ways. That being said, he could be taking his time to open up as well. You're looking to withdraw out of a fear of potential rejection. As you've stated before, it's not that serious, so really there's nothing to fear. Just let things unravel naturally

His Taurus Moon will make him slow to advance. Taurus energy is patient energy. His Virgo Venus probably makes him awkward, since Virgo romantic energy isn't lovey dovey (at least not to start). Both Taurus and Virgo energies like to feel "comfortable and safe". He will need to see consistent interest from you as a result.

Then there's his Gemini Mars which means he could change his decision on a dime. Gemini energy also often needs to recharge as itself, so it's not uncommon for a Gemini person to disappear into order to sleep. Again don't expect overly emotional displays from him, at least no for a while.

Lastly he's a Leo, which means subtlety will not get you as far as you'd like. We sometimes need to be bashed over the head by someone's desire for us. Don't be surprised if you have to drop the same hint a few times before he seems to react. It's possible he either hasn't picked up on your level of interest OR he is gauging it.
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2 questions...

1) im a libra sun, leo moon. How does my moon sign pair with my sun sign?

2) my leo ex called me her soulmate, love of her life, wanted to have my babies blah blah. We broke up (bad one) and now shes in a situationship with a Pisces. Do you think i could get her back eventually or like yall say, once im done with you im done. She has expressed us being atleast friends...

A sign like me not texting her on her bday and taking it hard (for 2 days) showed me she still wasnt over me. Later i did send belated text to a thank you. (Was sulking over break up so couldnt send text at that time)
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2 questions...

1) im a libra sun, leo moon. How does my moon sign pair with my sun sign?

2) my leo ex called me her soulmate, love of her life, wanted to have my babies blah blah. We broke up (bad one) and now shes in a situationship with a Pisces. Do you think i could get her back eventually or like yall say, once im done with you im done. She has expressed us being atleast friends...

A sign like me not texting her on her bday and taking it hard (for 2 days) showed me she still wasnt over me. Later i did send belated text to a thank you. (Was sulking over break up so couldnt send text at that time)
You don't take her seriously, even now... so

probably not.

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2 questions...

1) im a libra sun, leo moon. How does my moon sign pair with my sun sign?

2) my leo ex called me her soulmate, love of her life, wanted to have my babies blah blah. We broke up (bad one) and now shes in a situationship with a Pisces. Do you think i could get her back eventually or like yall say, once im done with you im done. She has expressed us being atleast friends...

A sign like me not texting her on her bday and taking it hard (for 2 days) showed me she still wasnt over me. Later i did send belated text to a thank you. (Was sulking over break up so couldnt send text at that time)
You don't take her seriously, even now... so

probably not.



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Wrong! I poured out my feelings to her, she was the one that didnt take me back.. Plus, shes seeing someone (situationship) now so ill let them run its course.
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2 questions...

1) im a libra sun, leo moon. How does my moon sign pair with my sun sign?

2) my leo ex called me her soulmate, love of her life, wanted to have my babies blah blah. We broke up (bad one) and now shes in a situationship with a Pisces. Do you think i could get her back eventually or like yall say, once im done with you im done. She has expressed us being atleast friends...

A sign like me not texting her on her bday and taking it hard (for 2 days) showed me she still wasnt over me. Later i did send belated text to a thank you. (Was sulking over break up so couldnt send text at that time)
You don't take her seriously, even now... so

probably not.




Wrong! I poured out my feelings to her, she was the one that didnt take me back.. Plus, shes seeing someone (situationship) now so ill let them run its course.

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😕

That's what I said-- she probably would not take

you back.
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Posted by Breeze
2 questions...

1) im a libra sun, leo moon. How does my moon sign pair with my sun sign?

2) my leo ex called me her soulmate, love of her life, wanted to have my babies blah blah. We broke up (bad one) and now shes in a situationship with a Pisces. Do you think i could get her back eventually or like yall say, once im done with you im done. She has expressed us being atleast friends...

A sign like me not texting her on her bday and taking it hard (for 2 days) showed me she still wasnt over me. Later i did send belated text to a thank you. (Was sulking over break up so couldnt send text at that time)
You don't take her seriously, even now... so

probably not.



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I'm going have to agree with @Montgomery on this one. The real question is, what was the nature of your break up? Sounds to me that she was all in (wanting your babies), but you might not have reciprocated the same amount of passion. Now that she's moved on however you want her back.

The thing about Leos are, when we're done, that's it. However there is a grace period before we are TRULY done. Leos may appear to move on quickly, but that's to speed up our healing process. It's to show you that we are indeed desirable and that you are a fool for letting us go. It's possible this Pisces guy is just a rebound, but seeing that she does have a new guy, getting back with her will be much harder now.

The best time to get a Leo back is when we're still alone and vulnerable. When we're still open to fixing the relationship. If you leave us out in the cold for too long though, we will go cold permanently. At that point if a Leo starts actively pushing you away, it's over.

As for your first question, a Libra Sun Leo Moon person will be more passionate and aggressive than a typical Libra. This is a good thing because Leos respond well to that. This means you'll probably have an easier time going for what you want. You'll also crave attention a lot more than most Libras, but have the energy to back it up. Your personality will be BIG.

Most Leos love Libras, but ask any of us and we'll tell you our biggest pet peeve is a Libra's overall indecision, specifically in romantic relationships. Leos know our worth, we know how generous and passionate we can be. When a Libra is indecisive about us, we'll generally be taken aback. If a Libra leaves us or let's things grow cold, we'll feel insulted and grow resentful. We'll build up a wall so that you can't hurt us again. Deep down we are extremely hurt and confused about why you would reject our hearts.

So then when the Libra comes back, we don't trust it. A Leo's trust in any relationship is VITAL. We won't be so accepting anymore. As a fixed sign, Leos see things in black and white. In our minds, if you left once before, then you can surely do it again. We'll see you as flip-floppy and not someone we can rely on romantically.
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I feel as if this post has been done before...Heck I may have done one a year ago. There seem to be a lot of questions regarding Leos (a lot about Leo Men too). So if you don't feel like posting a new topic but just want to pick a Leo;s brain, feel free. Fellow Leos please chime in as well.

Here are some brainstorming questions to get the ball rolling. Feel free to answer:

What is the most you've spent on a first date? (Because we love our grand gestures don't we?)

What is your favorite sexual position? (Because...yeah...)

What is the largest number of suitors or romantic prospects you've had at any one time?

Have you ever cheated on someone? (Only the bold should answer this one)

What was your favorite subject in school?





I am new to this site but... Honestly really at my wits end for answers about this Leo male. I guess not too much at my wits end because I am not going to the actual person. But i digress.... I have a question about what this Leo male is possibly doing?!? He is sun leo july 25th and japanese and black and 30 yrs (im hoping a Leo around his age would offer perspective that i'll have peace of mind) i was friends with him in highschool and he was 2 years younger than me and used to try to persue me but i was older honestly and really into well, myself. Fast forward i had a collge period where we tried to hang but i was really oblivious to him still maybe having feelings for me (gemini problems). Then years later i found him on instagram and he started liking all my pictures and asked for my snapchat and he started messaging me from that social platform. At this time i was in a relationship that was on social media so he knew and ... Behind closed doors beginning to seem like a disaster... But i was keeping up a strong front honestly.. Well because pride ? lol. I was starting to notice he was flirting and i was not flirting but not ignoring him (like i do anyone flirting with me while in a relationship). I didnt watch his stories at first but i started to and saw that... Well frankly he grew up nice lol and i went into this spiral of being attracted and then just honestly completely smitten. I separated from who i was with for a period because we werent foing well and i was "safety" flirting with this Leo because i honestly didnt know what i was doing. He would message me and be really bold but respectful but never say "i like you" "im trying to see you" it was always like "whats up with you", "oh i see your here or there..." "i see you cooked make me something" beat around the bush stuff that if i acted too boldly might make me look stupid... And then like send me him literally dancing to a song that seems like our situation of being into each other or a video of him lip synching to a song which was super super cute but... How do i respond to that? ... Fast forward he was also persuing a girl from out of the country who (is not cuter than me fyi lol she looks like the rapper TI wife Tiny mean but hey my names not on this whats the chances anyone i know will see it ?) she is super into him and after visiting him 3 times wants to move to where he lives! Im into him too but i have... A lot to consider to say the least and not get into that too much. When i saw that she moved out here and he wouldnt put her face on his snap story but the back of her head or subtle stuff where you know on the social site we talk on i got super butt hurt and unfollowed him for like 4 months and then i was curious and refollowed him and she was still there and i didnt unfollow because i decided i didnt want to look even more weird and hung up and i decided id have to just get over it by any means necessary and do me. he went back to watching everything i posted and i sent him a happy bday text and he thanked me with lots of emojis but that was it. ITs been 2 months. I thought we were both fine just following each other on snapchat and he watched evvery one of my snaps yesterday then unfollowed me yeserday.. Rando. (deep exhale) of course theres more but whats the general consensus—? Hopefully something that gives me peace of mind. I am not going to front i really like him still and idk what it is... its magnetic and like hes unexplainably irresistable... And now i feel like... Idk.. I dont like it though... Whats the perspective on his deal?(and i get it would be assuming)

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Honestly, this isn't so much a Leo question as it is a guy question.

First you're young and still have maturing to do when it comes to relationships. To be honest, you barely know this guy outside of what you can see on social media. As you mentioned you didn't really get to know im when you two were in high school or college.

It's entirely possible that you're not really into him, but infatuated by his looks and the "mystery" of him. It's also possible that the guy got bored and moved on to someone new because you weren't taking any real steps toward him.

The real problem with Snapchat (and social media in general) is that it creates a facade of human interaction that cant' replace actual human contact. If you really wanted this guy, a phone call or face-to-face meet would have been more productive.

My guess is the guy realized that you unfollowed him for 4 months. When you started following him again, he checked your Snapchat to see if anything had changed. Over time as nothing progressed, he started to detach. He finally reached the conclusion that nothing between you would ever flourish.

The one bit of astrological information I'll mention is that Leo's are generally fairly direct when we're interested. We also are goal oriented and like knowing our efforts amount to something. As a result we usualy flirt for a reason (the reason being determined by that individual Leo). If it appear our efforts are falling flat, we won't waste anymore of our time and possibly bail.

The real question is, what do you want?
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How important is sex for you in relationship?
It's fairly important. I won't feel truly connected to a partner otherwise.

That being said, I also get to know a woman in the other ways as well if I'm interested in her. So be wary of men who try to use sex as leverage for an emotional relationship. A guy should be trying to get to know romantically/emotionally outside of sex as well.
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How important is sex for you in relationship?
It's fairly important. I won't feel truly connected to a partner otherwise.

That being said, I also get to know a woman in the other ways as well if I'm interested in her. So be wary of men who try to use sex as leverage for an emotional relationship. A guy should be trying to get to know romantically/emotionally outside of sex as well.
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Nice. He told me similar things as you said too. Sex is important to me and i tend to want to do it a lot. As a leo man, how do you see that kind of woman who has a high sex drive (like me) ?
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How important is sex for you in relationship?
It's fairly important. I won't feel truly connected to a partner otherwise.

That being said, I also get to know a woman in the other ways as well if I'm interested in her. So be wary of men who try to use sex as leverage for an emotional relationship. A guy should be trying to get to know romantically/emotionally outside of sex as well.
Nice. He told me similar things as you said too. Sex is important to me and i tend to want to do it a lot. As a leo man, how do you see that kind of woman who has a high sex drive (like me) ?
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That all depends on her personality. I'd want to know if she had more going on for herself than having a high sex drive. I personally appreciate women who are also intelligent and can hold a decent conversation. She doesn't need to be a genuis, but a quick wit or good sense of humor goes a long way.