Leo Came Out To Me..

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Hey I thought I'd update all you cause that's what we do here.



So yeah the title says it all.



Last sat night I get a message from the Leo saying I should come over and talk. I get over there and the second I opened the door it's different. There is evidence of someone else is been living there. Never seen it like that before. That's how I just knew something was really off. There was a rainbow of sticky notes on the fridge saying random loving things.There was a picture of them on his desk.

He says "I need to tell you something." I say "okay"

He says " This girl I'm seeing is a trans "

I didn't really know what to say at first. I was like surprised but also not. I don't know if I told you guys this but in our sexual relationship it was always really up and down and strange. I knew he was into "lady dudes " because he " confessed " it to me one right was he was really shitfaced. But like for everyone I didn't know how far that went. Maybe it was a porno fetish or it was a window to more. We can never really know this stuff can we?

Than we went on to say how he never felt this way before about anyone he took her home to meet his family she stayed with him for a month blah blah. Than he broke down crying and said " But now she is off in San Fransisco with some 50 year old man " I said " What do you mean? "

Than he proceed to tell me how she is 22 years old from the Philippines doesn't have a green card and has sex with people for money.

So I say " Okay....so she is a prostitute? " and he's like " I guess yeah". LOL....



Leo has a Juno in Pisces. His whole thing has always been captain save a hoe and loves pain and drama. You know a while back I use to be a lot like him. Hence while there was such a big attraction for this longest time.

I've changed though. I got into medical school and have been a pretty healthy relationship with a pisces for 5 months now. I'm trying to live a different type of life and hoping to find the light in life.

The night ended with him asking me to sleep in bed with him. I did but nothing physical happened or was going too. I just stayed far to the side occasionally he tried to cuddled up but I pushed him off. He was so wasted and sad I was afraid he was gonna hurt himself so that's really the only reason I stayed.

The next morning I said good luck and went home.

We've still been talking still but it's just about this whole process. He is going to see a therapist Monday so I hope she can help him. He really needs it.

The pisces has been really supportive and I've told him all about this. He's been a really good to me thus far.



Anyway that's that. I've felt a lot of different feelings since knowing this. Betrayed, sad, mad, confused, happy, supportive. Never experienced this before.



Life is crazy man lol.

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"Hey I thought I'd update all you cause that's what we do here. "

- Yes exactly what we do; thank you for keeping us in the loop 🙂. We're really like a lil family here. We fight, insult, support, and joke around.

"I've changed though. I got into medical school and have been a pretty healthy relationship with a pisces for 5 months now. I'm trying to live a different type of life and hoping to find the light in life."

-Wow, so happy for you! Big change!
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Going to have to agree with @MoonshineLeo on this one. Maybe it's just us being hard on this Leo, but immature Leos can get drama confused with love. White knighting can also be a detrimental aspect of the Leo personality (or rather doing too much for the people we desire).

He's going to need to sort these particular character flaws on his own. Sometimes Leos need to learn this the hard way as well. It sounds like he is attracted to drama and difficult situations, which is a definite red flag. Seeing a therapist to sort out why he gravitates to these types of situations is important, regardless of what his sexual preference is.

It's also good to know that he prefers trans people. This is another aspect of his personality/sexuality that he'll need to explore and become honest about with himself. To be honest, there's really nothing for you to do here aside from being supportive. Just know that you can be supportive from afar. If you have a Pisces guy who is supportive of you, I suggest putting your focus on that instead.
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Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.
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Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.

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It is. I'm talking about reality not your personal feelings on the matter.
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Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It is. I'm talking about reality not your personal feelings on the matter.


If you got a dick you're a man

Genetically physiologically you're a man

What did you say about my feelings?

Lol this is science and logic
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It is your personal feelings because it is not logic or science.

Gender is something an individual decides and it has to do with the brain.

Sex is what biologically you were born as, this is normally decided by sex chromosomes and genitalia. They are separate, this is scientifically agreed upon.
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I don't even have words. I can't imagine walking into that situation and trying to process wtf just happened but I have a feeling I would have done the same..stayed and been supportive.

I'm curious as to why he decided to call you and tell you all this? Reason I ask..cause the whole sun/moon deal. Like does he feel you are the only person that will understand...not judge him as harshly etc etc.
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Posted by Sag898

Hey I thought I'd update all you cause that's what we do here.



So yeah the title says it all.



Last sat night I get a message from the Leo saying I should come over and talk. I get over there and the second I opened the door it's different. There is evidence of someone else is been living there. Never seen it like that before. That's how I just knew something was really off. There was a rainbow of sticky notes on the fridge saying random loving things.There was a picture of them on his desk.

He says "I need to tell you something." I say "okay"

He says " This girl I'm seeing is a trans "

I didn't really know what to say at first. I was like surprised but also not. I don't know if I told you guys this but in our sexual relationship it was always really up and down and strange. I knew he was into "lady dudes " because he " confessed " it to me one right was he was really shitfaced. But like for everyone I didn't know how far that went. Maybe it was a porno fetish or it was a window to more. We can never really know this stuff can we?

Than we went on to say how he never felt this way before about anyone he took her home to meet his family she stayed with him for a month blah blah. Than he broke down crying and said " But now she is off in San Fransisco with some 50 year old man " I said " What do you mean? "

Than he proceed to tell me how she is 22 years old from the Philippines doesn't have a green card and has sex with people for money.

So I say " Okay....so she is a prostitute? " and he's like " I guess yeah". LOL....



Leo has a Juno in Pisces. His whole thing has always been captain save a hoe and loves pain and drama. You know a while back I use to be a lot like him. Hence while there was such a big attraction for this longest time.

I've changed though. I got into medical school and have been a pretty healthy relationship with a pisces for 5 months now. I'm trying to live a different type of life and hoping to find the light in life.

The night ended with him asking me to sleep in bed with him. I did but nothing physical happened or was going too. I just stayed far to the side occasionally he tried to cuddled up but I pushed him off. He was so wasted and sad I was afraid he was gonna hurt himself so that's really the only reason I stayed.

The next morning I said good luck and went home.

We've still been talking still but it's just about this whole process. He is going to see a therapist Monday so I hope she can help him. He really needs it.

The pisces has been really supportive and I've told him all about this. He's been a really good to me thus far.



Anyway that's that. I've felt a lot of different feelings since knowing this. Betrayed, sad, mad, confused, happy, supportive. Never experienced this before.



Life is crazy man lol.



"the Leo saying I should come over and talk. I get over there"

"and have been a pretty healthy relationship with a pisces for 5 months now."

"The night ended with him asking me to sleep in bed with him."

"The pisces has been really supportive and I've told him all about this."

the poor little pisces 😢

very nice of you to support your friend, ex, btw

but I dont know if its a sign of a healthy relationship with the pisces to sleep in the same bed with friends, exes....hm...
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Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.
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If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag898 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag898

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.
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Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag989 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag989

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.
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"and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal."

that is the question, sleeping with exes in the same bed is maybe not the right thing in a healthy relationship? I can be wrong

PS. as to this transphobic shyte you mentioned... I dont think the main thing is that that loser Leo is hung up on a trans.... if we just replace trans with "other woman" or "other man" in the opening post, it would be still the same story: Leo summones her to his castle, she goes there!, the Leo starts the crying baby process (again, nothing to do with the trans thing, but pining after a prostitute), then they go to sleep together in the same bed, because omg thats the right way to help

if anybody´s ex is hung up on a prostitute, the good thing to do is to run to them in the night, sleep there and tell about it to your loving partner

what a mess 😢
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Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag989 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag989

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.


"and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal."

that is the question, sleeping with exes in the same bed is maybe not the right thing in a healthy relationship? I can be wrong

PS. as to this transphobic shyte you mentioned... I dont think the main thing is that that loser Leo is hung up on a trans.... if we just replace trans with "other woman" or "other man" in the opening post, it would be still the same story: Leo summones her to his castle, she goes there!, the Leo starts the crying baby process (again, nothing to do with the trans thing, but pining after a prostitute), then they go to sleep together in the same bed, because omg thats the right way to help

if anybody´s ex is hung up on a prostitute, the good thing to do is to run to them in the night, sleep there and tell about it to your loving partner

what a mess 😢
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Idk that's tough. I mean it's platonic and nothing happened and she said she was worried about his health... I think that's a conversation for her and her bf. It's hard to say how I would feel in her place. I do know my friends are very important to me.

And the trans thing is fine in the context of the story. If the Leo has a fetish that's a problem on it's own, him trying to have a relationship with someone who has to prostitute themselves will likely be a problem too and it is indeed messy.

My issue is the rhetoric other posters have had and nothing else.

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Hey I thought I'd update all you cause that's what we do here.



So yeah the title says it all.



Last sat night I get a message from the Leo saying I should come over and talk. I get over there and the second I opened the door it's different. There is evidence of someone else is been living there. Never seen it like that before. That's how I just knew something was really off. There was a rainbow of sticky notes on the fridge saying random loving things.There was a picture of them on his desk.

He says "I need to tell you something." I say "okay"

He says " This girl I'm seeing is a trans "

I didn't really know what to say at first. I was like surprised but also not. I don't know if I told you guys this but in our sexual relationship it was always really up and down and strange. I knew he was into "lady dudes " because he " confessed " it to me one right was he was really shitfaced. But like for everyone I didn't know how far that went. Maybe it was a porno fetish or it was a window to more. We can never really know this stuff can we?

Than we went on to say how he never felt this way before about anyone he took her home to meet his family she stayed with him for a month blah blah. Than he broke down crying and said " But now she is off in San Fransisco with some 50 year old man " I said " What do you mean? "

Than he proceed to tell me how she is 22 years old from the Philippines doesn't have a green card and has sex with people for money.

So I say " Okay....so she is a prostitute? " and he's like " I guess yeah". LOL....



Leo has a Juno in Pisces. His whole thing has always been captain save a hoe and loves pain and drama. You know a while back I use to be a lot like him. Hence while there was such a big attraction for this longest time.

I've changed though. I got into medical school and have been a pretty healthy relationship with a pisces for 5 months now. I'm trying to live a different type of life and hoping to find the light in life.

The night ended with him asking me to sleep in bed with him. I did but nothing physical happened or was going too. I just stayed far to the side occasionally he tried to cuddled up but I pushed him off. He was so wasted and sad I was afraid he was gonna hurt himself so that's really the only reason I stayed.

The next morning I said good luck and went home.

We've still been talking still but it's just about this whole process. He is going to see a therapist Monday so I hope she can help him. He really needs it.

The pisces has been really supportive and I've told him all about this. He's been a really good to me thus far.



Anyway that's that. I've felt a lot of different feelings since knowing this. Betrayed, sad, mad, confused, happy, supportive. Never experienced this before.



Life is crazy man lol.



"the Leo saying I should come over and talk. I get over there"

"and have been a pretty healthy relationship with a pisces for 5 months now."

"The night ended with him asking me to sleep in bed with him."

"The pisces has been really supportive and I've told him all about this."

the poor little pisces 😢

very nice of you to support your friend, ex, btw

but I dont know if its a sign of a healthy relationship with the pisces to sleep in the same bed with friends, exes....hm...

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Hey thank you for the feedback. Yes I've been pulling back emotionally from the Leo. Obviously the sleeping was not physical or sexual. It was just out of concern. But I can see how it might be weird and maybe inappropriate to an outsider
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I don't even have words. I can't imagine walking into that situation and trying to process wtf just happened but I have a feeling I would have done the same..stayed and been supportive.

I'm curious as to why he decided to call you and tell you all this? Reason I ask..cause the whole sun/moon deal. Like does he feel you are the only person that will understand...not judge him as harshly etc etc.


Yes I am. That's exactly why he called me over. Many times I've been a bit of a mother figure to him. He had told his other friend that day too. But it was cause he trust him as he is more open minded. Alot of his friends back home ( in the south ) and family he is afraid to tell them this because of reactions.
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Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag898 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag898

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.
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I don't get what this argument is about? I see two transphobic posts, yours and then Arielle's response to both them and you. And it's definitely not teaching time since this thread has to do with OP's situation and how she's processing new info about her ex.

Let people learn in their own time. If they don't want to learn, it's their loss.

I've got trans friends, both men and women, who have learnt to get past the hate from straight people, people who insist on fetishizing them AND people from the the LGBT community. And to be honest I'm quite sick of explaining things to people. It feels like explaining to Trump why a wall won't work.

OP feels a certain way about what's happened. Let her feel it and let's focus on that instead.



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Posted by littyblunts

Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag989 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag989

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.


"and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal."

that is the question, sleeping with exes in the same bed is maybe not the right thing in a healthy relationship? I can be wrong

PS. as to this transphobic shyte you mentioned... I dont think the main thing is that that loser Leo is hung up on a trans.... if we just replace trans with "other woman" or "other man" in the opening post, it would be still the same story: Leo summones her to his castle, she goes there!, the Leo starts the crying baby process (again, nothing to do with the trans thing, but pining after a prostitute), then they go to sleep together in the same bed, because omg thats the right way to help

if anybody´s ex is hung up on a prostitute, the good thing to do is to run to them in the night, sleep there and tell about it to your loving partner


what a mess 😢
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All of this.
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Posted by littyblunts

Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag898 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag898

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.
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Aww thanks fire! You are so sweet. Yeah I guess I've just been busy and really emotional drained. I wanna keep posting though. I always get something out of reading on here haha

Yeah I'm trying to find boundaries with the Leo. I hope we can be friends but sometimes we lean on eachother too much.

The pisces has def complained but he has own stuff too. You know, no one is perfect but overall it's been going good.

Hope all is well with you!
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Hmm I don't think anyone was being transphobic. No one is scared of Trans people. There are people who relate to others by the Gender they were born with. Out of respect I'll call a man a woman but in my mind I know I'm talking to a man. Some people get so upset by others refusal to go along. I think we should respect everyone not just Trans people. If someone said to me call me a pig okay I'll call you a pig but I still know you're not a pig.
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Hmm I don't think anyone was being transphobic. No one is scared of Trans people. There are people who relate to others by the Gender they were born with. Out of respect I'll call a man a woman but in my mind I know I'm talking to a man. Some people get so upset by others refusal to go along. I think we should respect everyone not just Trans people. If someone said to me call me a pig okay I'll call you a pig but I still know you're not a pig.


OMG it's tiki!! hey girl!
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Hmm I don't think anyone was being transphobic. No one is scared of Trans people. There are people who relate to others by the Gender they were born with. Out of respect I'll call a man a woman but in my mind I know I'm talking to a man. Some people get so upset by others refusal to go along. I think we should respect everyone not just Trans people. If someone said to me call me a pig okay I'll call you a pig but I still know you're not a pig.


OMG it's tiki!! hey girl!
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LOL Hi!!
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I don't even have words. I can't imagine walking into that situation and trying to process wtf just happened but I have a feeling I would have done the same..stayed and been supportive.

I'm curious as to why he decided to call you and tell you all this? Reason I ask..cause the whole sun/moon deal. Like does he feel you are the only person that will understand...not judge him as harshly etc etc.


Yes I am. That's exactly why he called me over. Many times I've been a bit of a mother figure to him. He had told his other friend that day too. But it was cause he trust him as he is more open minded. Alot of his friends back home ( in the south ) and family he is afraid to tell them this because of reactions.
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That makes sense as we mooners tend to take on the supportive roll in the dynamic. It's really interesting...the sun/moon deal.

I'm so sorry though that you had to deal with all of that but I'm glad the Pisces has been supportive. I love Pisces anyway but also for that reason.
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Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag898 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag898

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.


I don't get what this argument is about? I see two transphobic posts, yours and then Arielle's response to both them and you. And it's definitely not teaching time since this thread has to do with OP's situation and how she's processing new info about her ex.

Let people learn in their own time. If they don't want to learn, it's their loss.

I've got trans friends, both men and women, who have learnt to get past the hate from straight people, people who insist on fetishizing them AND people from the the LGBT community. And to be honest I'm quite sick of explaining things to people. It feels like explaining to Trump why a wall won't work.

OP feels a certain way about what's happened. Let her feel it and let's focus on that instead.



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Well the transphobic part was mostly CCs post though there was the other poster saying "actual women" which I consider just ignorant. Here's the thing when you say it's not teaching time it's just an attempt to silence someone and I won't do that. I also have trans friends and this rhetoric is the shit that really messes with them, might be the last thing they think of before they end it. Trans rights are worse than ever and violent crimes and murders have increased, not including the fetish problem. I made one small comment and then people had to jump on talking about how they don't want to hear it and continuing the issue. I don't care if you want to hear it, keep your comments to yourself or post elsewhere. I don't mean personal you when I said the previous btw. Cause I do get where you're coming from.

I already stated that it's fine for Sag898 to discuss this and anyone else too. And I never intended to derail the conversation, I just can't ignore that shit. And yes its exasperating to explain but I'll do it 100 times over if it reaches at least one person.
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Posted by FireStarter

Posted by littyblunts

Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag898 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag898

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.


Aww thanks fire! You are so sweet. Yeah I guess I've just been busy and really emotional drained. I wanna keep posting though. I always get something out of reading on here haha

Yeah I'm trying to find boundaries with the Leo. I hope we can be friends but sometimes we lean on eachother too much.

The pisces has def complained but he has own stuff too. You know, no one is perfect but overall it's been going good.

Hope all is well with you!
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Sorry to hear you're so emotionally tired, but yes definitely keep posting if it helps!😊 I apologize if any of my comments have taken the focus off your original post. And I hope it doesn't make you hesitate to update in the future.

I don't know about the Leo. I'd say just keep supporting him, talking and such. But I'm not sure what else you can do. It's not really in your control.

As for the Pisces, I can see why he'd complain. Is he pretty understanding overall? I feel like Pisces guys can be really calm even though they're sensitive.
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Posted by FireStarter

Posted by littyblunts

Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag898 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag898

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.

You know, just because people have reservations about transgender culture, it doesn't automatically make them transphobic.

I have no problem with transgenders BUT I do feel that, in recent years, a certain political agenda has been thrust onto society, regarding transgenders, which I don't feel comfortable with. I don't ever recall that happening with the gay community. Now, allegedly every fifth person wants to change their sex, and every other man is okay with having sexual relations with a transgender. When the fuck did the goal posts suddenly change? Hmmm... probably sometime after Lady Gaga came onto the scene and made the whole transgender scene fashionable.

Changing your gender is a fucking serious decision, It isn't like changing your hair style - it's practically irreversible and life-altering. Personally, I believe a good number of transgenders are changing their gender for the wrong reasons, and are merely jumping onto the transgender bandwagon. If you want to call me transphobic for saying that then go ahead. I really don't care.

Mark my words, 10-20 years from now, a significant proportion of recent transgenders will be in a very dark place (or even suicidal) because they failed to adequately think through the consequences of their actions...

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Gah...I'm sorry I should let this go but I can't. But I won't continue it in this topic beyond here. If you want we can discuss through message.

What are these reservations exactly and what is transgender culture though? Cause all the vast amount of trans people want is to be treated equally and be respected and called by their appropriate gender. Fyi transphobic like homophobic doesn't necessarily mean you hate or fear trans people obviously. But when you say things like I'll call them whatever but they are still a man that's hurtful and ignorant, and ignorance falls under transphobia.

And the only political agenda is again equal rights and treatment which they currently do not have. And it's not like being trans is trendy, you have no idea what they go through, it's just it's a little easier to come out now. And again a trans woman is a woman so a straight man is likely to be attracted. They might have problems if it's pre-op but that can be worked out. There's no need to feel uncomfortable about this.

You can believe whatever you want but I'd be careful if it's something that can be fact checked or proven. And the fact is that the overwhelmingly majority of trans people who transition are happier after doing so. Because yeah it is a lot to go though. If you actually cared to know youd understand how difficult a process it is. And you don't care, so whether it makes you transphobic or not it certainly makes you an ignorant jerk.

Trans people who can't transition have a very high rate of suicide, so no I think so long as other people become more open minded that number will drop.

Again I apologize for "teaching" this is my last response on the subject in here.
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Posted by Gobby

Posted by FireStarter

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by Black-Mamba

Posted by FireStarter

Posted by littyblunts

Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag898 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag898

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.

You know, just because people have reservations about transgender culture, it doesn't automatically make them transphobic.

I have no problem with transgenders BUT I do feel that, in recent years, a certain political agenda has been thrust onto society, regarding transgenders, which I don't feel comfortable with. I don't ever recall that happening with the gay community. Now, allegedly every fifth person wants to change their sex, and every other man is okay with having sexual relations with a transgender. When the fuck did the goal posts suddenly change? Hmmm... probably sometime after Lady Gaga came onto the scene and made the whole transgender scene fashionable.

Changing your gender is a fucking serious decision, It isn't like changing your hair style - it's practically irreversible and life-altering. Personally, I believe a good number of transgenders are changing their gender for the wrong reasons, and are merely jumping onto the transgender bandwagon. If you want to call me transphobic for saying that then go ahead. I really don't care.

Mark my words, 10-20 years from now, a significant proportion of recent transgenders will be in a very dark place (or even suicidal) because they failed to adequately think through the consequences of their actions...

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I actually know someone who regretted her decision 10 years after going through the procedures. But I think part of why she regrets it is because she skipped the mandatory year-long counselling sessions required (after which you are assessed based on results from those sessions). She had her procedures done in Thailand, but before that she paid a hefty sum to skip the counselling.

Disappointing.
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Posted by Arielle83

Posted by Black-Mamba

Posted by FireStarter

Posted by littyblunts

Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag898 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag898

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.

You know, just because people have reservations about transgender culture, it doesn't automatically make them transphobic.

I have no problem with transgenders BUT I do feel that, in recent years, a certain political agenda has been thrust onto society, regarding transgenders, which I don't feel comfortable with. I don't ever recall that happening with the gay community. Now, allegedly every fifth person wants to change their sex, and every other man is okay with having sexual relations with a transgender. When the fuck did the goal posts suddenly change? Hmmm... probably sometime after Lady Gaga came onto the scene and made the whole transgender scene fashionable.

Changing your gender is a fucking serious decision, It isn't like changing your hair style - it's practically irreversible and life-altering. Personally, I believe a good number of transgenders are changing their gender for the wrong reasons, and are merely jumping onto the transgender bandwagon. If you want to call me transphobic for saying that then go ahead. I really don't care.

Mark my words, 10-20 years from now, a significant proportion of recent transgenders will be in a very dark place (or even suicidal) because they failed to adequately think through the consequences of their actions...

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This!
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I don't even have words. I can't imagine walking into that situation and trying to process wtf just happened but I have a feeling I would have done the same..stayed and been supportive.

I'm curious as to why he decided to call you and tell you all this? Reason I ask..cause the whole sun/moon deal. Like does he feel you are the only person that will understand...not judge him as harshly etc etc.


Yes I am. That's exactly why he called me over. Many times I've been a bit of a mother figure to him. He had told his other friend that day too. But it was cause he trust him as he is more open minded. Alot of his friends back home ( in the south ) and family he is afraid to tell them this because of reactions.


That makes sense as we mooners tend to take on the supportive roll in the dynamic. It's really interesting...the sun/moon deal.

I'm so sorry though that you had to deal with all of that but I'm glad the Pisces has been supportive. I love Pisces anyway but also for that reason.
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Right? It's so real lol and thanks
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Posted by Sag898

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Posted by Arielle83

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Posted by FireStarter

Posted by littyblunts

Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag898 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

@Sag898

As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.


Aww thanks fire! You are so sweet. Yeah I guess I've just been busy and really emotional drained. I wanna keep posting though. I always get something out of reading on here haha

Yeah I'm trying to find boundaries with the Leo. I hope we can be friends but sometimes we lean on eachother too much.

The pisces has def complained but he has own stuff too. You know, no one is perfect but overall it's been going good.

Hope all is well with you!


Sorry to hear you're so emotionally tired, but yes definitely keep posting if it helps!😊 I apologize if any of my comments have taken the focus off your original post. And I hope it doesn't make you hesitate to update in the future.

I don't know about the Leo. I'd say just keep supporting him, talking and such. But I'm not sure what else you can do. It's not really in your control.

As for the Pisces, I can see why he'd complain. Is he pretty understanding overall? I feel like Pisces guys can be really calm even though they're sensitive.
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Thanks! Haha it's all good, classic dx always like 50 different things going on in one thread all good. Yeah I hope the Leo figures his own life out. I believe everyone can if they just try.

The pisces is supportive, I hope we make it
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Who tf even cares about the tranny tho??! This isn’t about the tranny. She’s just turning tricks to pay her bills like every other pro.

This is about the Leo and the fact he lied and cheated on the op. Don’t gaf if he slept with a woman, a man, an animal. Doesn’t matter. He betrayed her and put her health at risk.

Stop looking out for someone who doesn’t have your best interests at heart OP. Cut liars and cheaters out of your life.

Your gonna ruin a good thing with the Pisces because your trying to ‘mother’ an ex who didn’t gaf about you when you were together. Twisted.
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Who tf even cares about the tranny tho??! This isn’t about the tranny. She’s just turning tricks to pay her bills like every other pro.

This is about the Leo and the fact he lied and cheated on the op. Don’t gaf if he slept with a woman, a man, an animal. Doesn’t matter. He betrayed her and put her health at risk.

Stop looking out for someone who doesn’t have your best interests at heart OP. Cut liars and cheaters out of your life.

Your gonna ruin a good thing with the Pisces because your trying to ‘mother’ an ex who didn’t gaf about you when you were together. Twisted.


He did not cheat on me. The last time I slept with him was before he met her. Also we were never together.

We are distancing ourselves from each other. Or relationship is not a sexual one though.

Yes I'm working on stuff with the Pisces and we are mostly okay.
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Ugh I was messing around with an aries guy. I went on his Instagram and noticed a lot of trans women liking his pics (more than actual women.) It made me a little uncomfortable. He lied about being into that stuff after asking I just figured it was a fetish. Nah I went through an old phone of his. It was full of homosexual content & most of the women he was talking to were trans. Nope nope nope. Now I'm super scared to date anymore because alot of men are into that crap now a days. I'm not transphobic but people should be honest with themselves and the people they decide to "date." I also have a child with him so it really broke my spirit over time.

Please don't waste your time with the Leo, it's nice to be kind to him but he needs to get his life before adding other people to it. Clearly he has some issues within that he needs to address


Look there are unfortunately men out there who fetishize trans individuals and that's a problem.

However that doesn't mean it's ok to dehumanize or invalidate trans people. A trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.


No. Sorry. That's not how this works.




It’s not “teaching moment” time.


If you learned the lesson it wouldn't have to be taught. Just because Sag898 is sharing her story which is fair to comment on, doesn't give anyone the right to spout that transphobic shit. I will call you and anyone else on it.

And for the people who like to start shit indirectly, what are you in highschool still? Don't think by me calling someone out on their asshatery means I don't care about the original post. This predicament is new but I'm glad Sag989 is still doing well with the Pisces. I have congratulated her and wished her well many times before.

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As for advice on the Leo.. idk. He's got a lot going on apparently, and if you can manage being a good friend w/o hurting your current relationship that would be ideal. How has your 2019 been anyway? Feel like I don't see you post as much anymore.


Aww thanks fire! You are so sweet. Yeah I guess I've just been busy and really emotional drained. I wanna keep posting though. I always get something out of reading on here haha

Yeah I'm trying to find boundaries with the Leo. I hope we can be friends but sometimes we lean on eachother too much.

The pisces has def complained but he has own stuff too. You know, no one is perfect but overall it's been going good.

Hope all is well with you!


Sorry to hear you're so emotionally tired, but yes definitely keep posting if it helps!😊 I apologize if any of my comments have taken the focus off your original post. And I hope it doesn't make you hesitate to update in the future.

I don't know about the Leo. I'd say just keep supporting him, talking and such. But I'm not sure what else you can do. It's not really in your control.

As for the Pisces, I can see why he'd complain. Is he pretty understanding overall? I feel like Pisces guys can be really calm even though they're sensitive.


Thanks! Haha it's all good, classic dx always like 50 different things going on in one thread all good. Yeah I hope the Leo figures his own life out. I believe everyone can if they just try.

The pisces is supportive, I hope we make it
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If you guys work at it and the relationship gets better and better, I'm sure you will. Wishing you the best!😊😄
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Who tf even cares about the tranny tho??! This isn’t about the tranny. She’s just turning tricks to pay her bills like every other pro.

This is about the Leo and the fact he lied and cheated on the op. Don’t gaf if he slept with a woman, a man, an animal. Doesn’t matter. He betrayed her and put her health at risk.

Stop looking out for someone who doesn’t have your best interests at heart OP. Cut liars and cheaters out of your life.

Your gonna ruin a good thing with the Pisces because your trying to ‘mother’ an ex who didn’t gaf about you when you were together. Twisted.


He did not cheat on me. The last time I slept with him was before he met her. Also we were never together.

We are distancing ourselves from each other. Or relationship is not a sexual one though.

Yes I'm working on stuff with the Pisces and we are mostly okay.
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How would you feel if the Pisces spent platonic sleep overs at some woman’s he used to fuck?

There’s a disrespect factor here imo.
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Who tf even cares about the tranny tho??! This isn’t about the tranny. She’s just turning tricks to pay her bills like every other pro.

This is about the Leo and the fact he lied and cheated on the op. Don’t gaf if he slept with a woman, a man, an animal. Doesn’t matter. He betrayed her and put her health at risk.

Stop looking out for someone who doesn’t have your best interests at heart OP. Cut liars and cheaters out of your life.

Your gonna ruin a good thing with the Pisces because your trying to ‘mother’ an ex who didn’t gaf about you when you were together. Twisted.


He did not cheat on me. The last time I slept with him was before he met her. Also we were never together.

We are distancing ourselves from each other. Or relationship is not a sexual one though.

Yes I'm working on stuff with the Pisces and we are mostly okay.


How would you feel if the Pisces spent platonic sleep overs at some woman’s he used to fuck?

There’s a disrespect factor here imo.
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If she was a lesbian and sucidal I would understand it.

It wasn’t an ideal situation and I wouldn’t do it again