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thelibran..

Did you check out the thingy LS sent for us to watch?? It is deeply understandable and somewhat inspiring. You should check it out. It helps point people in a direction.. We can't always go around doing things aimlessly. We have to have some way to channel our passions. I believe this may be one way that works for some.

It is just hard for me at this point to believe God would allow all this bad stuff to happen to even good people... I know we all have a free will and all but with all the do's and don'ts in the Bible followed and you still get clobbered by life... I just don't get it.. Where is the good karma that comes around? We always hear about bad Karma (I have had my share)... If this phenomenon is true, then the inverse must be equally true.. but it is not!!
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Yea I saw those videos in youtube. Quite nice. Theory running parallell to what I deducted on God factor. What they failed to understand or may be communicate is that not everyone can do that. Its not easy to teach another person how to feel and generate such an energy. Thats the same point where most religions fail to serve it purpose. People tend to take the literal meaning in Bible, Quran and Gita. and we know the output - Violence and insecurity and depression. Lemme try to explain a bit on my own way. can be boring though. 😉

Years back I was a firm believer of Christianity and I went through a phase where I started questioning the practices vs outcome and started wondering why things dont work that way. I peeled off my cultural coating and started travelling inside a bit. I started reasoning my own thoughts. Deduct every single behaviour of mine and go dig deep inside my brain and started figuring out the innermost reason for such a behaviour or even a thought process. It was amazing that many of these thoughts originated on irrational foundation. Some was developed out of Christian teachings bcoz I was brought up as a catholic. Some rooted back to cultural superstitions. Some to my childhood incidents and stuffs. Some related to culture. Then I could clearly see a pattern in which my thoughts originated and developed and calculated which resulted in the outcome what I was facing in this world. That pattern matched perfectly with Libran Traits in Linda Goodmans Book. And even more accurately with my birth Chart explanations.

So I deducted that my zodiac traits form the very foundation of all my brain work and rest of the stuffs like childhood, education, partner, finance, culture ect was piled on top of it. Then i started observing others and found out similar patterns. It started becoming more clearer to me that most conflicts occur on other levels like education or culture between a libra and supposed to be natural lovers - Gemini, Aqua, Libra and Aries. Deep inside things match well but our cultural or educational or religious outlook creates a mismatch of expectations.

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Once I reached those findings, I started wondering if I can bypass this system using prayers. But found out its impossible. So I stopped astrology for time being and started focussing on Religion. Easily deducted that religion is purely man made from various factors. Older generation were unaware of reasons for which things were happening out of their control and they assumed a God factor and started worshipping. Issues were illness, natural factors such as wind, rain, thunder ect ect. Few found out ways to get close to the system and tried their best to enlighten others. But its a fact one person cannot convey his ideas completely to another person unless its a zodiac match. So whatever was explained was recieved in a slightly different way. This is what I guess did happened everywhere. They started writing these stuffs and common man always low on intellect started taking everything in its literal meaning. Its quite silly to consider 12 fishermen understanding every single thing what Jesus happened to mention suppose if its a fact that he once lived on earth. Also Mr. Jesus or Mr. Muhammad would have never told anything if he or God almighty knew that some pricks will later use his name and teachings to start a religion and politically dominate a group of human beings and create so much of troubles on earth.

When we fail to understand our own parents or lovers completely, how can we consider our own understanding of God to be accurate— and the very reason for an incomplete communication lies in astrology. So I concluded that the system that exists is a perfect design in all means. I dont care if God created or it was evolution. But my vote goes to evolution. Now thats the point where I started doubting If what we call God is the same system what we understand to be running on the basis of astrology? When a human being understands astrology and the system, he find a meaning to totality and thats the same thing every religion is focussing on but without any rational basis. I am still deducting on this situation.

Also its quite important to notice that Catholic Church has murdered many astrologers and philosophers long long time ago who may have tried to establish the link. Religion survives on the very fact that it caters "hope" to its followers. And astrology fills that need for hope with a logic and a reason. So what you all think?

Thanks for reading. I badly wanted to tell these to some people who has the capacity to understand. 🙂
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thelibran..
NOT BORING AT ALL. I am going to have to think about that for a while... You can't hit an aqua with something like that and expect us to process it all at once... but I am at this very place in my life....

"Years back I was a firm believer of Christianity and I went through a phase where I started questioning the practices vs outcome and started wondering why things don't work that way. I peeled off my cultural coating and started traveling inside a bit. I started reasoning my own thoughts. Deduct every single behavior of mine and go dig deep inside my brain and started figuring out the innermost reason for such a behavior or even a thought process. "

I am reading a lot, writing a lot, talking to different people and chatting with you all.. thinking a lot.. trying to piece everything together.. and slowly a lot more things are starting to make sense. Why I do certain things, why I respond to people in a certain way.. why I think the way I do about love and sex... Some of it is clearer than ever, but a lot is unclear. Your "message" was well received and you gave me a lot to think about. Life is too short not to be able to enjoy it fully and I have not enjoyed my life for many years now. I am just beginning to understand why. I see some people and they are so happy all the time and it kind of makes me mad because I think, what do they have that I don't.. I am the one who is supposed to be happy.. I am the Christian doing everything by the Bible, and they are not, yet they are rich, beautiful, successful, happy, energetic.. and I embody some of those things on the outside too, but inside I struggle all the time. And it shows in my unpredictability, and quiet nature. I'd rather NOT talk to people, because I am never sure, completely how I will be received.. It wasn't until about 8 years ago, I started talking to people. Before that I was very very quiet. I knew only a few people and that was okay with me. I would never talk to someone who did not talk to me first, and if they did talk to me I never knew what to say....I was always sad inside. Then I just decided one day not to live like that anymore. Ever since then life has been one experiment after another. Everyday I try to explore new things and do things in different ways to get better results, but still in the context of being perfect, and the "good Christian girl" if you will. My marriage ended about 6 months ago and it knocked me on my BUTT.
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I did everything perfectly and I never expected it to happen to someone who did everything perfectly... how could that happen. If God (my father) was watching out for me.. then how could he allow such bad things?? I would never let my child be harmed by anyone.. and he has all power.. but he did allow it, so now I have no answers... after living one way for most of my life.. (I had a few wild years after undergrad)... Now NOTHING makes sense... so I just spend my time learning about everything.. and I take one day at a time. Whatever comes my way that day, is pretty much what I do. This is not how I used to live at all. My whole life was planned out. But now all that time I spent planning is waisted, because I don't have that life anymore.. I never expected to date again or even thought I would have to... I HATE DATING! I think that is one of the main reasons I got married.

oh well... enough of boring you all with my story... But thanks.. thelibran.. At least I know someone else out there has been tortured by the same questions I am..🙂
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Interesting, very interesting! Maybe because I'm an air sign.

I, too, have struggled with my beliefs in religion, God and astrology. I've come to the conclusion, similar to you, that religion does not always serve people the way it's meant to. Maybe there was always good intentions behind it, but power and control and money came into the picture. In my belief, when people start to get involved with power and control and money, they are no longer worshipping God, but worshipping false idols. Thus, relgion gets messy.

On the other hand, my Libra is a Muslim and he has what I believe to be a very good understanding of sprituality - believing in the idea that everything is energy and we get what we give, and what we ask for. However, he does conform to some passages of the Quran in a literal way that I don't agree with. Homosexuality being a sin, for one.

All this to say, I don't necessarily believe astrology to be separate from spirituality, although it may be considered a sin (in terms again, of the false idol aspect) in some religions. I believe that we are all energy, all of the world is energy, and that the energy of the stars and planets under which we are born affects the type of energy we are made of. Maybe similar to how the moon placement affects the tide of the ocean.

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And to continue...I also agree that culture and socialization can get in the way of how we get along with others.

For instance, I have some childhood experiences that have caused me to have doubt and insecurities in relationships that have definately negatively affected some of my relationships. I've spent a lot of time working through those issues, and I now feel like I have a hold on it, yet some of my earlier relationships in life didn't work mostly because of that factor.

Also, I am now dating a man from another culture and it has been interesting getting to know one another in that way. For instance, when we were first together, he admitted to me that he "gets crazy inside" when he is alone. I thought "there must be something wrong with this guy - he doesn't like himself". Of course, being a Libra, I understand that aspect, but also, being from a culture where everyone lives with their family until they get married themselves, he is not used to living alone or spending much time at all with himself. So, yes, there have been some misunderstandings based on culture - on his end and on mine. At the same time, we're able to openly talk about it and we both have a great deal of patience. So, we'll see.
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ammorocks..."For instance, I have some childhood experiences that have caused me to have doubt and insecurities in relationships that have definately negatively affected some of my relationships."

You know thelibran said the same thing and I do not know what you all are talking about... maybe a bully at school or a parent leaving?? What type of childhood experiences would leave you insecure for years.. I am sorry if I am ignorant to this. I did not have a great childhood but it does not affect my relationships. So I am not sure what you mean..

Is your cross cultural relationship hard? Why did you choose to date someone from a different culture than yourself? Does he want you to become a Muslim?
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My childhood experiences involve some physical trauma - of a personal nature that doesn't feel appropriate going into on a message board. So I was f $ $ cked up for years because of it...but I am now truly a stronger person because of it.

Actually, I didn't necessarily "decide" to date a guy from another culture. It was pretty serendipitous in fact. Last winter I remember talking to my friend about how I'd like to have a partner, but I wasn't ready right then. She responded, "maybe with the change of seasons".

So, on the first day of spring, I was at work and bored and decided I wanted to take a little break and get some candy. My friend wanted coffee, so we went to the grocery store that had a Starbucks inside. I went to the Starbucks checkout to buy my candy and this guy was working there, we locked eyes, he asked me what I did for a living, what I like to do for fun, and then, if I'd like to go out sometime. I knew the minute I saw him that he was going to ask me out. The other funny thing, and all of this goes along with LS's energy give and take, is that a few days earlier, I had said to one of my friends, "I want my life to be like Sex and the City. I want to go to a coffee shop or my gym and get asked out by guys." Well, I did. Over the next few months I got asked out a LOT at random places.

Anyways, the Starbucks guy and I had a coffee date at 11 am, went to lunch at 1, walked and talked all afternoon, went to dinner at 7 and then talked ALL night long (till 7 am) at his place. Our first date lasted 24 hours. There is some kind of crazy connection there, maybe simply the Libra/Gemini thing - who knows? But I certainly wasn't looking for a relationship at the time and neither was he. Probably the most fun thing of all is that we both talked about how we felt when we met at Starbucks on our first date, and we've talked about the whole "I wasn't looking for this" too.
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uh! yeah!! I used to date a gem it was nice but he was too young for me. I keep attracting young guys.. I am not sure why..

Anyway. Yeah. Libra and aqua's do well together.. my ex best-friend was a libra, still love her to death 'til this day. Have not met many libra women though.. I guess in my old age women aren't really looking for friends, but that's okay the guys are 😉

You know what.. I am feeling the "sex and the city" thing too.. And I am completely in love with the re-runs. I have to watch everyone that comes on. I don't live anywhere near New York or any city like New York.. But I would love to. That is one of my life dreams.. to live in NY for a time. Right down town.. Lower eastside.. (kidding) I don't even know what a lower eastside is.. I just hear them saying something like that on the show..🙂 Gotta love TV. Takes you places you've never been.. 'til you can actually get there.
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(((how could that happen. If God (my father) was watching out for me.. then how could he allow such bad things?? I would never let my child be harmed by anyone.. and he has all power.. but he did allow it, so now I have no answers...)))

Thats what I mean by "This world is a perfect design". If I design a small world, I would rather do some extra work to see things working automatically at any given point of time than me becoming a servent where my job is to answer queries and do favours.

Thats where a human brain plays the role. We are born with that and its meant to serve us for everything. If we fail to use it efficiently and start depending on our prejudice and societies terms, we will soon find ourselfs in troubles.

Everything we see, experience, go through is stored well inside our brain (in its own way - bits and bytes and extracts and thumbnails) and it does this wild pattern matching everytime we come close to such an instance in the future. When we see something new, we have nothing to match back a pattern and our brain stops for a fraction of second which helps us stay away from our wild running brain. Thats when we forget all our worries and actually feel the beauty of it. am pretty sure that everyone has faced that feelings of beauty.

So in our childhood, our brain is way empty without much patterns and most things we see is new to us and we have less worries(tats why a grownup has nostalgia). and as and when we grow up, these patterns gets more and more and we worry more. Now if you cross check yourself, you can find that most times when our brain match back a pattern, it doesnt reach the bottom level purity of thoughts and instead gets stuck on its way to the core. Some of ur childhood traumas, something what you learned in highschool, something your mom told you, something you happened to extract from society will be blocking these thoughts and matching a wrong pattern.

Say you meet a stranger in a fishy surroundings and immediately your brain sense some cause to fear. You want to run away. The thing is that your brain matched the pattern from some old experience or some movie that you have seen. It failed to calculate the situation you are in as a very new situation where things could be pretty simple - he may want to ask you direction. In this similar fashion, we do gets lost and live a life in fear and prejudice.

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This is common issue with 99% human beings. Everyone face this and goes through this. To remove this issue with our brainpatterns is never easy. People depend on religion, yoga, meditation, prayers, rituals ect which according to me are temporary forms of relaxation. But it was well told in bible that unless you are born again, you wont walk the kingdom of heaven. All took it in its literal meaning and started doing utter nonsense. One has to unlearn everything he has learned to go back to that childhood stage of our brain and start all over again. This time when you walk on this earth for the second time, your brainpatterns are empty, but you already have knowledge and information about this world. and a library of patterns which you have been living on for years for cross chking. This new life turns out to be most exciting bcoz you start observing everthing at a grownup age. Everything you see is new. You will notice more than you have noticed in your real childhood since now you have the necessary information to study in detail.

Now the real advantage of going back to childhood is different. You start to feel more when you dont think(match back patterns). And thats where you gets connected into the supersource in the fastest way. One has to remember that the animal instincts of a child is far far better than any grownup. also his brian is most wonderful since it calculates all possible options. Try giving a problem to a small kid and observe him/her. They do it no matter how many obstacles they have to face. They find alternate solutions to every single problem that comes across. and they develop their own immune system as long as we let them handle it. Thats the stage we are trying to achieve. By maintaining the knowledge we have acquired from science and mathematics, with a clean and pure brain, we solve things faster than ever. We see beauty in even the pen we used to write everday. You will start observing the beauty and details of the monitor which is in front of you. That brings in happiness.

So we do so much of things to find the real happiness which developes a lot of positive enegery in us. We are connected to supersource since we stopped thinking and started feeling. Then life is like a ride. All you have to do is to sit and enjoy it. Thats heaven. You are not worried of afraid of anything anymore.

ok am gonna rest for the day. hope i hvnt typed much nonsense today... 😉
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I agree its hard to do. But its not impossible. It may be pretty stupid for me to suggest any method since there is no method in which you can take yourself back. You will have to find it yourself.

Ask yourself whats the best way to bypass your brains current settings. I guess its easy if you can start tracing back to the core of your patterns. Sort of engineer yourself insideout. Only you can find a way to do it. All I can do is to suggest methods but am quite sure its not gonna work in that fashion.

Remember that you have a wonderful brain which is capable of doing anything and everything. Almost like a computer. Just that you need to lean how to programm it to bypass your current settings. Yours is no different than mine except for its input/output/processing patterns. And technically an aquabrain is more well designed than a libra getting them the name "genius". So you can find a better solution. I have no doubt about it.
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thelibran... WOW.. that must be a libra thing bc it's definitely not an aqua thing.. this will take some time for me to figure out, we are not detailed at all, but I am up for the challenge. I will have to let you all know how it goes.. Where to start...? Mind is fill with so much stuff, I can't even remember my childhood.. I have very few memories.. anyway.. back to it....

You're strangly amazing.
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thelibran.."and ask yourself why you want to learn from me when you already know the answer".

Ok, see there you're doing it again, being like Morphus...elusive. What do you mean by this? It could take me forever just to figure out what you mean my this sentense. I already know the answer to what? I haven't even started the 10-year process (which I am sure will take every bit of 10-years) so how can I already have the answer..
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not really. I cannot tell much bcoz I dont know you. May be if it was my close friend whom i know in real life, i could have helped better. and its quite important that you are well equipped with all necessary capacities inside you brain on how to tune it and tweak it. No one else can get inside your brain and work on it. Only you can do it to yourself. You have to learn yourself first. Learn how you think, how you react, watch youself from another persons shoes all the time. Keep observing yourself. At the same time you need to try to find reasons for your behaviour. When i started i didn know about the astrology base. You know how you are suppose to behave and think and understand and react. See if its true. Cross check if there is something cultural blocking your thoughts. keep figuring this out as and when you get time. You dont have to take this as your main job and stay away from everything. Do you know how you will normally react when you see a dog around your neighbourhood? How does ur face changes? Why does your face changes so. What were you thinking? nothing? no you were thinking something. what was it? was it about the dog you met at your friends place? or were you just staring at the dog? keep going and see where it will take you.

I once went through a phase where i locked myself up in my bedroom for 3 months. almost around first 10 days i never spoke a single word to anyone. then i stayed away from people and was not watching tv or reading newspapers. Used to eat very limited. well that wasnt bcoz i wanted to do so or i knew wat to do. I was brokenheart. 😉 But that period of time started something unusual in me. made me think a lot.

gotta go out. goin to be busy for another 24 hrs. guests. cya later
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Okay. Thank you for the example about the dog.. I can completely understand now. Light bulb went off, and I am not slow but I tend to make things more complex at times than they need to be, so I rather ask for clarification up front to make it easier on myself later.. Oft times in undergrad I would write papers that were graded mediocre because I put too much information in them.. or I exceeded the required number of pages and would be marked off because of it. I thought I was doing the topic a disservice if I did not hit all the points, even though the assignment may have required only one. Maybe this is an aqua thing.. I don't know.

So, I am terrified of dogs, but I DO NOT know why. Cannot remember a single childhood memory with a dog in it, yet every time I see one I clam up and freeze, like I know it is going to bite me.. even the smallest of dogs is torturous for me to be around.. This is a good starting point for me.

...I ...would ...LOVE to lock myself in my bedroom for the next three months and do nothing all day but read and think.. that would be sooo therapeutic for me right now.. but it is an impossibility.. So I guess I will just have to chat with you all for my therapy instead. I am pretty much inside my head all the time, though anyway which is almost like being in a secluded room.. Even though others are talking to me, I am just watching their mouth move.. I am ALWAYS in there. I can't stop it, although I want to. I want to live in the present moment.. that's why I think it would be beneficial to just get it over with in three months.. then I could go back to being normal again. I have no people in my life that stimulate me or challenge me in anyway right now. My libra use to, but we haven't spoken much lately, plus I feel that is slowly dying now that he knows how I feel. Probably like what you said about knowing a woman likes you.. then you realizing you like the girl you met at the corner.. thing..

Thanks for your patience and time...
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Hi guys. I logged in once today and haven't been back. I had a company party to go to tonight (the one that the Libra said he didn't want to commit to). I had a good time. I'm about to head out to go clubbing-haven't done that in a long time. Anyway, I left my cell phone in the car tonight while at the company function; was there from 6:30 until 9. I had a missed call at 8:30 from the Libra, but no voicemail.

I called him back, but SURPRISE, he didn't answer. I wonder why he called? I wonder if he forgot about this function I invited him to but he turned down and just called to talk? I also wonder if he dialed my number by mistake because it's not like him to not leave a message.

Anyway, I called him back almost 40 minutes ago and still no callback. I also wonder if he realized "Oh crap...I should not have called her tonight since I turned down her company thingy. By me calling her tonight tells her that I didn't have any plans after all".

Oh I just remembered why he didn't pick up this time - apparently his brother and family are flying in from Florida and he was going to the airport to pick them up. So I guess he did forget about this company function and tried calling when he had a moment.

I think it might bug him a little that I haven't made attempts to call him. Could this be the beginning of the chase all over again? Bah, I don't know...I'm rambling. That's what happens when you put a bottle wine in front of me.
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thelibran.."Used to eat very limited. well that wasnt bcoz i wanted to do so..."

Love that... I like to feel in complete control of myself.. and controlling my food intake was one way of saying to my physical being.. you are subject to me.. mentally. I fasted once for a while, several days and it was a very enlightening experience. I felt so empowered and proud of myself for being able to do it. For me it was a great reward to be able to control something that is required to sustain life.. I am sure some people are able to do it for longer.. but not me, 4 days was long enough.. too many smell and temptations around me to last any longer.