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i have a question. is he still with this other woman? you both said no sex before marriage but he is sleeping with her?

sorry, that's two questions.

oh, one more; how did you find out about his std if he didn't tell you?
Okay so no, she disappeared right away. She was pissed that he wouldn't have her over and honestly I think it was easier for him to avoid her than me. She was an easy flirtatious and a distraction from life. After he said he wouldn't have her over he quit even talking to her within a week. He never slept with her. And I know because one of his family members told me.

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but he was in love with her?

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i have a question. is he still with this other woman? you both said no sex before marriage but he is sleeping with her?

sorry, that's two questions.

oh, one more; how did you find out about his std if he didn't tell you?
Okay so no, she disappeared right away. She was pissed that he wouldn't have her over and honestly I think it was easier for him to avoid her than me. She was an easy flirtatious and a distraction from life. After he said he wouldn't have her over he quit even talking to her within a week. He never slept with her. And I know because one of his family members told me.


Have you considered the possibility that he might have asked his family member to tell you he has an std. Perhaps in the hope that you will stop sexually manipulating him...?



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Haha that's funny! No that isn't the case. You are way off point with this sexual manipulation theory. Neither of us is great at communicating we both avoid confrontation in favor of peace but we are both honest and we are both direct when we actually talk.
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i have a question. is he still with this other woman? you both said no sex before marriage but he is sleeping with her?

sorry, that's two questions.

oh, one more; how did you find out about his std if he didn't tell you?
Okay so no, she disappeared right away. She was pissed that he wouldn't have her over and honestly I think it was easier for him to avoid her than me. She was an easy flirtatious and a distraction from life. After he said he wouldn't have her over he quit even talking to her within a week. He never slept with her. And I know because one of his family members told me.


Have you considered the possibility that he might have asked his family member to tell you he has an std. Perhaps in the hope that you will stop sexually manipulating him...?




Haha that's funny! No that isn't the case. You are way off point with this sexual manipulation theory. Neither of us is great at communicating we both avoid confrontation in favor of peace but we are both honest and we are both direct when we actually talk.
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i think if you are both honest and direct when you talk, you should ask him and then that should clear up any confusion you currently have.
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Does he pay rent?
Yeah no. I guess I should have said that right away. He has, but he has been without a job for two months now. When he was working he was paying half of everything. Pretty much giving me all his money. Even his last paycheck when he knew he was fired he gave almost the whole thing to me for bills and buying house stuff. But since he got fired he has been really depressed. He should have a job this week though. He has been interviewing. I know that puts a spin on things! But he has family and friends he could easily live with and has all his comforts. I have asked him if he is using me and he has said no that he feels guilty staying and not contributing, he hates where he is in life right now but he doesn't want to run away like he always does.
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So he doesn't pay rent.

Meaning when you make demands of his person (the hand jobs) he feels like he can't say no.

When you tell him you love him he can't be open with you about how he really feels for fear of your reaction.

When you demanded he cut ties with his gf or you would move him out he crumbled under your threats.

Just because he has friends and family doesn't mean he wants or can live with them. Just because he is kind to your children doesn't mean he wants to be with you romantically. How you are manipulating him is scary and just straight out creepy.

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Does he pay rent?
Yeah no. I guess I should have said that right away. He has, but he has been without a job for two months now. When he was working he was paying half of everything. Pretty much giving me all his money. Even his last paycheck when he knew he was fired he gave almost the whole thing to me for bills and buying house stuff. But since he got fired he has been really depressed. He should have a job this week though. He has been interviewing. I know that puts a spin on things! But he has family and friends he could easily live with and has all his comforts. I have asked him if he is using me and he has said no that he feels guilty staying and not contributing, he hates where he is in life right now but he doesn't want to run away like he always does.
So he doesn't pay rent.

Meaning when you make demands of his person (the hand jobs) he feels like he can't say no.

When you tell him you love him he can't be open with you about how he really feels for fear of your reaction.

When you demanded he cut ties with his gf or you would move him out he crumbled under your threats.

Just because he has friends and family doesn't mean he wants or can live with them. Just because he is kind to your children doesn't mean he wants to be with you romantically. How you are manipulating him is scary and just straight out creepy.

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couldn't have said it better.
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i have a question. is he still with this other woman? you both said no sex before marriage but he is sleeping with her?

sorry, that's two questions.

oh, one more; how did you find out about his std if he didn't tell you?
Okay so no, she disappeared right away. She was pissed that he wouldn't have her over and honestly I think it was easier for him to avoid her than me. She was an easy flirtatious and a distraction from life. After he said he wouldn't have her over he quit even talking to her within a week. He never slept with her. And I know because one of his family members told me.


but he was in love with her?

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"In love" yes. He can fall in love in five minutes but its not the same as loving someone. It's surface. The high of attraction and possibilities. I'm a cancer and my home is important. I wasn't okay with feeling inadequate in my own home and I told him that honestly. I asked him to go to her home instead, I told him how I felt. He apologized and I got the feeling my emotions kind of shocked him out of his idiot state in regards to her considering he seemed okay with her disappearance. I'm not sure exactly what happened because I never asked but I didn't see her again.

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Does he pay rent?


Yeah no. I guess I should have said that right away. He has, but he has been without a job for two months now. When he was working he was paying half of everything. Pretty much giving me all his money. Even his last paycheck when he knew he was fired he gave almost the whole thing to me for bills and buying house stuff. But since he got fired he has been really depressed. He should have a job this week though. He has been interviewing. I know that puts a spin on things! But he has family and friends he could easily live with and has all his comforts. I have asked him if he is using me and he has said no that he feels guilty staying and not contributing, he hates where he is in life right now but he doesn't want to run away like he always does.
So he doesn't pay rent.

Meaning when you make demands of his person (the hand jobs) he feels like he can't say no.

When you tell him you love him he can't be open with you about how he really feels for fear of your reaction.

When you demanded he cut ties with his gf or you would move him out he crumbled under your threats.

Just because he has friends and family doesn't mean he wants or can live with them. Just because he is kind to your children doesn't mean he wants to be with you romantically. How you are manipulating him is scary and just straight out creepy.


couldn't have said it better.

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Oh my gosh people. First of all even just with massages he aways asks first. Then I always try to be done and he asks me for more. Multiple times.

Also, I am just as nice when he is distant there is no pressure of any kind. He can not talk to me for however long and he knows that it's okay.

Also believe me, if he wanted me to not touch him he'd tell me. He is very blunt and he will say he wants space when he needs it. And I'll say okay and do my own thing. He comes to me when he wants to interact with me. That's why I always ask him if I should be done during massages because when he wants me to be done he will tell me and we will just play games or both go to sleep or whatever. It's not a big deal.

I know for a fact he can live with his family and he can very happily and comfortably live with them they would love it. He has friends asking him to move in with them or live with them rent free. He is making the choice not to go anywhere.
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i have a question. is he still with this other woman? you both said no sex before marriage but he is sleeping with her?

sorry, that's two questions.

oh, one more; how did you find out about his std if he didn't tell you?
Okay so no, she disappeared right away. She was pissed that he wouldn't have her over and honestly I think it was easier for him to avoid her than me. She was an easy flirtatious and a distraction from life. After he said he wouldn't have her over he quit even talking to her within a week. He never slept with her. And I know because one of his family members told me.


but he was in love with her?


"In love" yes. He can fall in love in five minutes but its not the same as loving someone. It's surface. The high of attraction and possibilities. I'm a cancer and my home is important. I wasn't okay with feeling inadequate in my own home and I told him that honestly. I asked him to go to her home instead, I told him how I felt. He apologized and I got the feeling my emotions kind of shocked him out of his idiot state in regards to her considering he seemed okay with her disappearance. I'm not sure exactly what happened because I never asked but I didn't see her again.

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Just because you never saw her again in and around your home does not mean she disapeared from his life.

It's far more likely that he said whatever he needed to say to your face to not be kicked out by you, all the while continuing to see and sex her.
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Stop being a predator before it bites you back in a big way. This is how you do permanent emotional and mental damage to someone's life, taking advantage of them in this way.
I still don't agree that I'm being a predator in any way. I'm not even trying to get him to date me. I was purposefully distancing myself but he didn't like that. I'm just trying to understand what he is thinking. Then I can decide to keep being here for him or if I should move to my own place. Honestly I was ready to hold that conversation with him when he started asking for the more intimate massages.

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i have a question. is he still with this other woman? you both said no sex before marriage but he is sleeping with her?

sorry, that's two questions.

oh, one more; how did you find out about his std if he didn't tell you?
Okay so no, she disappeared right away. She was pissed that he wouldn't have her over and honestly I think it was easier for him to avoid her than me. She was an easy flirtatious and a distraction from life. After he said he wouldn't have her over he quit even talking to her within a week. He never slept with her. And I know because one of his family members told me.


but he was in love with her?


"In love" yes. He can fall in love in five minutes but its not the same as loving someone. It's surface. The high of attraction and possibilities. I'm a cancer and my home is important. I wasn't okay with feeling inadequate in my own home and I told him that honestly. I asked him to go to her home instead, I told him how I felt. He apologized and I got the feeling my emotions kind of shocked him out of his idiot state in regards to her considering he seemed okay with her disappearance. I'm not sure exactly what happened because I never asked but I didn't see her again.


Just because you never saw her again in and around your home does not mean she disapeared from his life.

It's far more likely that he said whatever he needed to say to your face to not be kicked out by you, all the while continuing to see and sex her.

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But see I live with him and he never left home. He was hanging out watching movies with me every night and not even using his phone. Also I know people who know her so I can very assuredly tell you he stopped seeing her.
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i have a question. is he still with this other woman? you both said no sex before marriage but he is sleeping with her?

sorry, that's two questions.

oh, one more; how did you find out about his std if he didn't tell you?
Okay so no, she disappeared right away. She was pissed that he wouldn't have her over and honestly I think it was easier for him to avoid her than me. She was an easy flirtatious and a distraction from life. After he said he wouldn't have her over he quit even talking to her within a week. He never slept with her. And I know because one of his family members told me.


Have you considered the possibility that he might have asked his family member to tell you he has an std. Perhaps in the hope that you will stop sexually manipulating him...?




Haha that's funny! No that isn't the case. You are way off point with this sexual manipulation theory. Neither of us is great at communicating we both avoid confrontation in favor of peace but we are both honest and we are both direct when we actually talk.
i think if you are both honest and direct when you talk, you should ask him and then that should clear up any confusion you currently have.

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The problem is starting the talk. We both avoid difficult topics. Which on one hand means that we have a very peaceful home life. But on the other hand I'm in limbo and don't know what to do for my living situation. I'm trying to bring myself to initiate a conversation because I know it would fix everything.

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i have a question. is he still with this other woman? you both said no sex before marriage but he is sleeping with her?

sorry, that's two questions.

oh, one more; how did you find out about his std if he didn't tell you?
Okay so no, she disappeared right away. She was pissed that he wouldn't have her over and honestly I think it was easier for him to avoid her than me. She was an easy flirtatious and a distraction from life. After he said he wouldn't have her over he quit even talking to her within a week. He never slept with her. And I know because one of his family members told me.

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The same family member who told you about his std? Who is this family member and why do they have so much Intel on him if he never leaves your couch...?
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I know for a fact he can live with his family and he can very happily and comfortably live with them they would love it. He has friends asking him to move in with them or live with them rent free. He is making the choice not to go anywhere.


would they give him hand jobs?

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No. But I thought I was forcing those on him and manipulating him, and he'd be happy to be free of me ;-p

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i have a question. is he still with this other woman? you both said no sex before marriage but he is sleeping with her?

sorry, that's two questions.

oh, one more; how did you find out about his std if he didn't tell you?
Okay so no, she disappeared right away. She was pissed that he wouldn't have her over and honestly I think it was easier for him to avoid her than me. She was an easy flirtatious and a distraction from life. After he said he wouldn't have her over he quit even talking to her within a week. He never slept with her. And I know because one of his family members told me.


but he was in love with her?


"In love" yes. He can fall in love in five minutes but its not the same as loving someone. It's surface. The high of attraction and possibilities. I'm a cancer and my home is important. I wasn't okay with feeling inadequate in my own home and I told him that honestly. I asked him to go to her home instead, I told him how I felt. He apologized and I got the feeling my emotions kind of shocked him out of his idiot state in regards to her considering he seemed okay with her disappearance. I'm not sure exactly what happened because I never asked but I didn't see her again.


Just because you never saw her again in and around your home does not mean she disapeared from his life.

It's far more likely that he said whatever he needed to say to your face to not be kicked out by you, all the while continuing to see and sex her.


But see I live with him and he never left home. He was hanging out watching movies with me every night and not even using his phone. Also I know people who know her so I can very assuredly tell you he stopped seeing her.


You don't know anything for sure...

It's much more likely that they both told your mutual acquaintances the situation, that he will be homeless if you get wind that they are still together.

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He said he would move out if he couldn't have her over - I told him I'd help him pack.

He then backpedaled and said that actually he didn't want to move out he was 'bluffing' and he wouldn't have her over until I was okay with it.
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The problem is starting the talk. We both avoid difficult topics. Which on one hand means that we have a very peaceful home life. But on the other hand I'm in limbo and don't know what to do for my living situation. I'm trying to bring myself to initiate a conversation because I know it would fix everything.


sounds like you know the solution. i don't know what we can tell you about his feelings that he wouldn't be better at doing.

you've had conversations about your wants and needs before. this is no different.
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i have a question. is he still with this other woman? you both said no sex before marriage but he is sleeping with her?

sorry, that's two questions.

oh, one more; how did you find out about his std if he didn't tell you?
Okay so no, she disappeared right away. She was pissed that he wouldn't have her over and honestly I think it was easier for him to avoid her than me. She was an easy flirtatious and a distraction from life. After he said he wouldn't have her over he quit even talking to her within a week. He never slept with her. And I know because one of his family members told me.





The same family member who told you about his std? Who is this family member and why do they have so much Intel on him if he never leaves your couch...?

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No those were separate sentences. I know that he didn't sleep with her because he told me he didn't and i believe him. (People are honest sometimes. They really are.)
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I know for a fact he can live with his family and he can very happily and comfortably live with them they would love it. He has friends asking him to move in with them or live with them rent free. He is making the choice not to go anywhere.


would they give him hand jobs?


No. But I thought I was forcing those on him and manipulating him, and he'd be happy to be free of me ;-p

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i agree with everyone here. there are clear boundary issues being crossed. you're taking advantage of the situation and so is he.

he is enjoying living rent free with the free hand jobs thrown in. you are in the powerful position of hanging eviction over his head if he doesn't behave a certain way. you seem to have an awful lot of intimate information about him - who is seeing, what conversations he is having and his sexual health.

one thing is clear, it's fucked up.
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i have a question. is he still with this other woman? you both said no sex before marriage but he is sleeping with her?

sorry, that's two questions.

oh, one more; how did you find out about his std if he didn't tell you?
Okay so no, she disappeared right away. She was pissed that he wouldn't have her over and honestly I think it was easier for him to avoid her than me. She was an easy flirtatious and a distraction from life. After he said he wouldn't have her over he quit even talking to her within a week. He never slept with her. And I know because one of his family members told me.


but he was in love with her?


"In love" yes. He can fall in love in five minutes but its not the same as loving someone. It's surface. The high of attraction and possibilities. I'm a cancer and my home is important. I wasn't okay with feeling inadequate in my own home and I told him that honestly. I asked him to go to her home instead, I told him how I felt. He apologized and I got the feeling my emotions kind of shocked him out of his idiot state in regards to her considering he seemed okay with her disappearance. I'm not sure exactly what happened because I never asked but I didn't see her again.


Just because you never saw her again in and around your home does not mean she disapeared from his life.

It's far more likely that he said whatever he needed to say to your face to not be kicked out by you, all the while continuing to see and sex her.


But see I live with him and he never left home. He was hanging out watching movies with me every night and not even using his phone. Also I know people who know her so I can very assuredly tell you he stopped seeing her.

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Unless you never leave home yourself then you can't make that claim.

Do you work? Do you drive your kids to school?

There are moments during the day when you are not at home and monitoring his whereabouts and who he is communicating with on his phone.
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You don't know anything for sure...

It's much more likely that they both told your mutual acquaintances the situation, that he will be homeless if you get wind that they are still together.


I promise I know. And I never said he had to leave if he dated. I just said I wasn't ready for her to be at my house. I told him if he really loved her I'd be very nice to her and that I was happy if he was happy. I told him that I would adjust and be okay eventfully. I'm the nicest most peaceful person you'll ever meet. I wasn't even mad at him I was in tears and couldn't breathe. But I was still trying to see past my emotions. And I meant what I said. I wasn't okay with her being in my home but if he loved her for real I'd be okay eventually for him because are friends, before any of the confusing stuff. He knew I was being honest and he didn't and doesn't feel manipulated. That's the last thing I am. I'm a huge bundle of emotions but other people's feelings come first.
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You don't know anything for sure...

It's much more likely that they both told your mutual acquaintances the situation, that he will be homeless if you get wind that they are still together.


I promise I know. And I never said he had to leave if he dated. I just said I wasn't ready for her to be at my house. I told him if he really loved her I'd be very nice to her and that I was happy if he was happy. I told him that I would adjust and be okay eventfully. I'm the nicest most peaceful person you'll ever meet. I wasn't even mad at him I was in tears and couldn't breathe. But I was still trying to see past my emotions. And I meant what I said. I wasn't okay with her being in my home but if he loved her for real I'd be okay eventually for him because are friends, before any of the confusing stuff. He knew I was being honest and he didn't and doesn't feel manipulated. That's the last thing I am. I'm a huge bundle of emotions but other people's feelings come first.
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You also said you would move him out of your house if he continued to bring her around. Your controlling how a grown ass man lives his life by threatening the roof over his head.

You also delude yourself by thinking you know what he feels. If that was true you wouldn't be here searching for clues for how he feels about you...
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I know for a fact he can live with his family and he can very happily and comfortably live with them they would love it. He has friends asking him to move in with them or live with them rent free. He is making the choice not to go anywhere.


would they give him hand jobs?


No. But I thought I was forcing those on him and manipulating him, and he'd be happy to be free of me ;-p


i agree with everyone here. there are clear boundary issues being crossed. you're taking advantage of the situation and so is he.

he is enjoying living rent free with the free hand jobs thrown in. you are in the powerful position of hanging eviction over his head if he doesn't behave a certain way. you seem to have an awful lot of intimate information about him - who is seeing, what conversations he is having and his sexual health.

one thing is clear, it's fucked up.
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I never push into his life or question him. He questions me more than I do him. He usually talks about who he is talking to when he's using his phone of his own volition. I've never ever questioned. But if I use my phone he wants to know who I'm talking to and he'll straight up ask.

And I have never ever held eviction over his head. That one time he brought it up first and I just agreed. I never would have suggested that I'm not an ultimatum type of person.

I can promise he's not worried about me kicking him out. He talks like we will be living together for years.

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You don't know anything for sure...

It's much more likely that they both told your mutual acquaintances the situation, that he will be homeless if you get wind that they are still together.


I promise I know. And I never said he had to leave if he dated. I just said I wasn't ready for her to be at my house. I told him if he really loved her I'd be very nice to her and that I was happy if he was happy. I told him that I would adjust and be okay eventfully. I'm the nicest most peaceful person you'll ever meet. I wasn't even mad at him I was in tears and couldn't breathe. But I was still trying to see past my emotions. And I meant what I said. I wasn't okay with her being in my home but if he loved her for real I'd be okay eventually for him because are friends, before any of the confusing stuff. He knew I was being honest and he didn't and doesn't feel manipulated. That's the last thing I am. I'm a huge bundle of emotions but other people's feelings come first.
You also said you would move him out of your house if he continued to bring her around. Your controlling how a grown ass man lives his life by threatening the roof over his head.

You also delude yourself by thinking you know what he feels. If that was true you wouldn't be here searching for clues for how he feels about you...
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You really feel strongly about this don't you? I think we will just have to agree to disagree. I'm open-minded to being in the wrong but in this case I trust what I do know. I have some questions but my understanding of this part of the situation I trust.

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I know for a fact he can live with his family and he can very happily and comfortably live with them they would love it. He has friends asking him to move in with them or live with them rent free. He is making the choice not to go anywhere.


would they give him hand jobs?


No. But I thought I was forcing those on him and manipulating him, and he'd be happy to be free of me ;-p


i agree with everyone here. there are clear boundary issues being crossed. you're taking advantage of the situation and so is he.

he is enjoying living rent free with the free hand jobs thrown in. you are in the powerful position of hanging eviction over his head if he doesn't behave a certain way. you seem to have an awful lot of intimate information about him - who is seeing, what conversations he is having and his sexual health.

one thing is clear, it's fucked up.
I never push into his life or question him. He questions me more than I do him. He usually talks about who he is talking to when he's using his phone of his own volition. I've never ever questioned. But if I use my phone he wants to know who I'm talking to and he'll straight up ask.

And I have never ever held eviction over his head. That one time he brought it up first and I just agreed. I never would have suggested that I'm not an ultimatum type of person.

I can promise he's not worried about me kicking him out. He talks like we will be living together for years.

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you gossip with his family about him though?

you cry and can't breathe when he brings a woman over. he then says he will move out if he cant have her over. you agree. it was a poor calculation on his part because you were fast to control the shots.

the thing is, you can't see your own behaviour. it doesn't seem like you are able to have introspection into the effects of your own choices. there is no point asking our opinion.

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You don't know anything for sure...

It's much more likely that they both told your mutual acquaintances the situation, that he will be homeless if you get wind that they are still together.


I promise I know. And I never said he had to leave if he dated. I just said I wasn't ready for her to be at my house. I told him if he really loved her I'd be very nice to her and that I was happy if he was happy. I told him that I would adjust and be okay eventfully. I'm the nicest most peaceful person you'll ever meet. I wasn't even mad at him I was in tears and couldn't breathe. But I was still trying to see past my emotions. And I meant what I said. I wasn't okay with her being in my home but if he loved her for real I'd be okay eventually for him because are friends, before any of the confusing stuff. He knew I was being honest and he didn't and doesn't feel manipulated. That's the last thing I am. I'm a huge bundle of emotions but other people's feelings come first.
You also said you would move him out of your house if he continued to bring her around. Your controlling how a grown ass man lives his life by threatening the roof over his head.

You also delude yourself by thinking you know what he feels. If that was true you wouldn't be here searching for clues for how he feels about you...
You really feel strongly about this don't you? I think we will just have to agree to disagree. I'm open-minded to being in the wrong but in this case I trust what I do know. I have some questions but my understanding of this part of the situation I trust.

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Very strongly. As strongly as one can when it comes to being entertained by a story an Internet stranger is telling.

At the end of the day your going to proceed about things in the same way you always were. But ask yourself why every stranger here who has only heard YOUR side of things has gotten the same impression and has given the same advice to you...
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I feel like there are some things being taken wrong. I don't moniter him or who he talks to. He volunteers a lot of info but I have never pried. And the conversation about him moving out didn't go in the way you described. Yes I cried but it was after the fact. First we were supposed to have a talk. Then we were talking over text and he said he'd move out if he couldn't have whoever he wanted over. I said I'd try to be nice and okay with it. They got to the house and I couldn't handle it emotionally so I told him that I could help him pack and I was really sorry. He could have gone with her at that point. But he responded with a very quiet, 'no, I was bluffing I don't want to leave' and at that she walked out. Then I was crying because it was too much for me. Not to manipulate him. The week before he'd been spending all night with me every night and it hurt to basically be replaced. Mostly I think I'm his filler because he doesn't want to be alone. I do have a good grasp on the situation in some aspects. I've lost almost all my friends because they think he is using me and they are pissed I'm still letting him live with me. And all our mutual friends are no longer friends with him because they think he's using me. And they don't think this because of me. I just got messages after the fact telling me to run away. And these are people that have known him for half a decade vs the one year that I have known him.

So what I'm coming here for isn't really to find out anything earth shattering. I just need to sort through the emotions and find the logic and move on with my life.

Honestly the logical part of me figures I should move to my own place, and explain to him why I am moving. Then he will either go find someone else to live with or he will try to come live with me again. But that'll be his choice. And if he wants to sign another lease with me he will have to have a job.