Making myself better (leo) (Page 2)

This topic was created in the Libra forum by banini on Friday, February 2, 2007 and has 135 replies.

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@alcheme
19 Years1,000+ PostsScorpio

I like the rose idea!! Go with the rose, and that could go to her office without being too much...

From my point of view (i.e. - if I were the girl, though I am not a Libra), the best would be to just let her know her are thinking about her (not the full depth of what you are thinking, yet).

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@Chatz
19 Years1,000+ Posts

yeah good last comment alcheme!!!

Being a Leo I'd love it if it were full on but ya get that LOL....these Librans are confusing creatures - male and female

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@banini
20 Years

Okay, so you guys are saying go for the rose or card or whatever small like that despite the fact that she blocked me on myspace?

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@Chatz
19 Years1,000+ Posts

ummmmm....banini perhaps just leave her be— there are no doubt others out there who are deserving of your attention/love, etc....honestly, she's making it quite clear she's not quite that into you.

By all means send a rose and/or card but you may not receive the response you are hoping for *shrugs*

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@nicodemus
19 Years1,000+ PostsLibra

Well, considering she blocked you on myspace, I think maybe you should just cut your losses on this one. I didn't notice that part, she is trying to eliminate means of communication between you, this is a bit of a clear sign on her part.

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@banini
20 Years

Is it normal to feel like I'm totally over this libra most of the time, and then once in a while I'm not and thats when I write stuff like this topic?

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@Chatz
19 Years1,000+ Posts

banini Im sure its normal to a certain degree and Im sure it comes in waves (we've all been there) but she has made it totally clear she's not interested...hard for a Leo to accept? you are Leo right?? But you have to dust yourself off and move forward, and Cancers? Hmmm yes well I agree...but to be honest, I wouldn't rely too much on starsigns to guide you as far as who to "look" for.

Take your time, enjoy singledom as no doubt you'll soon be fighting for some freedom once you hook up with some lucky lady 😛

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@banini
20 Years

I'm feeling sad and hurt again, so I'm posting it here. It all hurts at once. Both Libras, by Taurus ex best friend who's an alcoholic now, the Leo that disappeared, etc. What am I doing to myself? Is over-thinking really a bad thing to do? If I'm trying to learn from this experience, don't I need to think about it a lot in order to figure out what to learn?

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@nicodemus
19 Years1,000+ PostsLibra

Banini you sound like an artist without a mode to express. Have you ever done anything artisitc? Draw, paint, music, write? If so, I think this is a good reason to do a little, if not, an even better reason to start. You know all that hurting that is comming at once, express it somehow.

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@little_sparrow
20 Years5,000+ Posts

* then once in a while I'm not and thats when I write stuff like this topic?

It ususally comes in waves. I find obsessing about relationships a good way to procrastinate and ensure nothing productive gets done. This is probably your default thought mode. When you are bored, you automatically default to thinking about relationship failures, I do this as well, but it can be changed by thinking about other things. This is what I am learning to do now.

Cheer up Champ!

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@Atom
19 Years1,000+ Posts

Dog-gone-it, nic' has good advice AGAIN!

little sparrow is right on as usual also. Go DO something and make it something nice for you. ACTION usually helps to cure this sorta thing, even if it seems slow at first.

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@banini
20 Years

Yeah, because all day when I'm at work, or doing comedy (which is artistic!) I don't think about it at all and I feel great. In fact if it does pop into my head, I feel like I'm totally over it and I stop thinking about it.

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@alcheme
19 Years1,000+ PostsScorpio

Banini,

As others have said, you seem to just need to find an outlet for your fire and something to keep you preoccupied. It will allow you to pull yourself out of the situation to eventually gain the ability to permanently take a step back and see the situation objectively. Unfortunately, only time (or a really bad situation) will allow that, which is why you need to put some time between this situation and you.

Work a lot or find a hobby and throw everything you have into it until your fires return to normal, then spend the time to reflect on the situation. It is nearly impossible to see the big picture when you are still in the middle of it. To try to reflect, understand, and think about it now could merely pull you deeper and deeper in, as you have seen with your pool scenario...

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@little_sparrow
20 Years5,000+ Posts

Well you can't keep busy ALL the time. 🙂

When you realize it is happening, just go oh yeah ... I must be bored. I am going to think about this happy thing instead or go do something to change your thoughts.

Knowing this is what is going on is the first step to fixing it. 🙂

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@banini
20 Years

Okay, check this out. A while ago I had messaged one of this girl's friends on myspace, asking her if she thought I should get help to try and figure out what was going on with me. It said she forwarded it, and I can only imagine to whom. So today this popped into my head and I couldn't resist sending it to her friend as well:

My therapist says that I got hurt by possibly having unrealistic hopes and expectations, or by mismatching my hopes and expectations not just with (the Libra) but with pretty much everyone. They also said that I shouldn't be so hard on myself for behaving the way I have because it was really just me reacting to being hurt when the reality turned out not to be as good as I had hoped or expected it to be. I don't think that excuses my behavior at all, but I do think it helps explain it. I guess I just couldn't admit to myself that I had been hurt because I didn't expect it, and couldn't believe that it was really happening.

Okay, so the therapist is me, and you guys, but they don't need to know that. The rest of it is true. Hopefully they think it's as funny as I do. She also forwarded this one BTW. Somehow having sent that makes me feel a lot better, and I think I may actually be able to let go of all of it more easily now.

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@nicodemus
19 Years1,000+ PostsLibra

Some may not understand your reasoning in sending that but I do. You articulated the way you feel, which you weren't able to do because she cut the communication. Now it is off of you and on her, and you can clear your head of it. Closure rocks.

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@banini
20 Years

I'm done. I don't want to send them any more messages. I think I'm going to stick to other comedians for friends from now on. Normal people just don't get me. Well you guys do I guess.

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@banini
20 Years

Well, I don't know if this is a good thing or not, but I think that somehow, as I've been emotionally injured at various times through life, I've been stripped to basically just my sense of humor, and so over time, my whole sense of self and who I am, has become based around my sense of humor. I think that because of this, it's very difficult for me to show or talk about serious things or feelings without it somehow being funny to other people, whether they're laughing with me or against me. A lot of times I even think it's funny, which usually makes me feel better, but not always. So, thats how I think I happened.

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@little_sparrow
20 Years5,000+ Posts

Yeah but everyone gets hurt through out their lives. It doesn't make you special, it just makes you human.

You will find someone who appreciates your sense of humour and your sense of self. Don't try to win the approval of those who are unable to give it to you. Whatever they see in you that they dislike, is what they dislike in themselves.

You'll be fine!

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@banini
20 Years

Ahhh, so perhaps I liked what she saw in me that she didn't like in herself, and she didn't want that to be something that someone liked in her because she didn't like it in herself. Haha.

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@banini
20 Years

Yeah well I know I can't really have the cookie, which just makes me feel worse...

j/k 🙂

Are they spelt cookies?

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@banini
20 Years

Further thoughts from today:

In some Libra and Leo message somewhere I read something about it being important for the two individuals to have a high level of mutual respect. Obviously, true in any relationship. I think it was saying that Librans and Leos tend to have more respect for each than other couplings or something. I dunno. Anyway, I think that was one of the main problems is that neither of us respected the other hardly at all, and I can't think of how I could have respected her. I think maybe I thought that I did at the time or something, but clearly I didn't, or else I wouldn't have behaved the way I did towards her. It's not like I disrespect all women, like for example, that other Libra that I knew, I never treated badly at all that I know of. So I guess it's just that it's impossible for me to respect this one, and for her to respect me. Or is it? But clearly there is no point in trying to if it is possible, because she isn't interested in building any kind of mutual respect. But at least now I know what I would say to her if I ever run into her and she tries to say hello or anything, which is that, if it's impossible for us to respect each, it would be best if we didn't interact at all.

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@banini
20 Years

Okay here's a question. If someone doesn't respect you, and they continue to disrespect you, are you being disrespectful to yourself by demanding that they do respect you and by trying to earn their respect?

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@little_sparrow
20 Years5,000+ Posts

You can't earn the respect or admiration of those who are unwilling to give it to you. There is nothing you can do about this situation sweetie. You need to let it go. The more you try, the more she will disrespect you because her respect is worth more than your own. Know what I mean?

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@little_sparrow
20 Years5,000+ Posts

** The more you try, the more she will disrespect you because her respect is worth more than your own.

Ooops it should have said, the more you try, the more she will deisrespec you because you value her respect more than you value your own.

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@nicodemus
19 Years1,000+ PostsLibra

"What if I just value her respect a lot, but not quite as much as my own?"

Thats fine but it doesn't seem like the case this far. You have put her up on a pedestal and she isn't even looking down at you, she is looking away.