GemiMay
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The love one feels is always unconditional, unless it's not love. Love doesn't depend on your "conditions". If it did, any of us would be able to chose exactly who to love or not to love, when to love, and for how long. We may claim that certain conditions allowed love to happen. Yet another time, with a different person, similar conditions are met, yet no love is felt whatsoever, even if we would "love" to. People don't really know what makes them fall in, or out of, love.
What is highly conditional for many, is when they choose to show love.
One is a feeling. The other one, a transaction.
What is highly conditional for many, is when they choose to show love.
One is a feeling. The other one, a transaction.
Posted by Undine
The love one feels is always unconditional, unless it's not love. Love doesn't depend on your "conditions". If it did, any of us would be able to chose exactly who to love or not to love, when to love, and for how long. We may claim that certain conditions allowed love to happen. Yet another time, with a different person, similar conditions are met, yet no love is felt whatsoever, even if we would "love" to. People don't really know what makes them fall in, or out of, love.
What is highly conditional for many, is when they choose to show love.
One is a feeling. The other one, a transaction.
I think we all bit off on def of ‘unconditional’.
I meant if I love someone - anyone - even my mother - I expect this person not to abuse my love and not to be hurtful intentionally to me.
They might don’t love me back but ME as MYSELF - I can not love ANYBODY who would not meet those ‘conditions’.
I was born this way. I can be dying for you today with a smile on my face BUT if you will commit assholish act toward me - you are dead to me in a heartbeat. I can absolutely NOT love indecent people. Never have. Hope never will.
Posted by Saturn_Returns
It only exists between offspring and their parents. But, like everything in life, nothing's guaranteed.
Anyone who says otherwise needs to stop watching those stupid Hallmark movies and seek out a therapist.
If you found out your offspring raped someone - admitted it so no doubts in their guilt - I say it’s dishonored. Can’t live THAT even if I gave birth to it.
Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by GemiMayPosted by Saturn_Returns
It only exists between offspring and their parents. But, like everything in life, nothing's guaranteed.
Anyone who says otherwise needs to stop watching those stupid Hallmark movies and seek out a therapist.
If you found out your offspring raped someone - admitted it so no doubts in their guilt - I say it’s dishonored. Can’t live THAT even if I gave birth to it.
Please read properly and stop cherry-picking the contents of my post.
As I said before: "But, like everything in life, nothing's guaranteed."click to expand
I like cherry…specially sour cherry…
Nope, not for me!
Posted by GemiMay
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
I call bs. Per your other thread where you laughed at the idea a male child could be a victim of rape and grooming by an adult female, I'm guessing you'd not only continue loving your daughter... you'd praise her.
I can only imagine unconditional love for a very young child.
Posted by Saturn_ReturnsPosted by GemiMayPosted by Saturn_Returns
It only exists between offspring and their parents. But, like everything in life, nothing's guaranteed.
Anyone who says otherwise needs to stop watching those stupid Hallmark movies and seek out a therapist.
If you found out your offspring raped someone - admitted it so no doubts in their guilt - I say it’s dishonored. Can’t live THAT even if I gave birth to it.
Please read properly and stop cherry-picking the contents of my post.
As I said before: "But, like everything in life, nothing's guaranteed."click to expand
Saying that to the OP is like telling ice cream to stop being frozen. She reads what she wants 99% of the time.
The longer your main point/ post is, the less she will understand it. You have to talk to Gemimay like a 3rd grader that accidentally drank some of mommy's wine at the dinner table
Unconditional love for my children definitely. Not everyone is like that in this world as parents though.
In a relationship, it’s tricky but you can have unconditional love for a person. It doesn’t mean that the relationship works out. But I have had a couple I’d say this applies to. I’ll always love them regardless. Of course, usually it means you haven’t done anything awful to each other for the love to survive.
In a relationship, it’s tricky but you can have unconditional love for a person. It doesn’t mean that the relationship works out. But I have had a couple I’d say this applies to. I’ll always love them regardless. Of course, usually it means you haven’t done anything awful to each other for the love to survive.
Having unconditional love does not mean you accept bad behavior from others.
Unconditional love is love you offer freely. You don't base it on what someone does for you in return. You simply love them and want nothing more than their happiness. Very hard to achieve as we have all been conditioned/brainwashed by family, upbringing and society.
Unconditional love is love you offer freely. You don't base it on what someone does for you in return. You simply love them and want nothing more than their happiness. Very hard to achieve as we have all been conditioned/brainwashed by family, upbringing and society.
Posted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
I think it's more about the person you CAN unconditionally love, and not the concept itself.
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally flaws and all, but that's because I know she cannot hurt me no matter what cuz I get her and know where she's coming from. Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person with different personality,character,history, all things that made her her. But science fiction is not what we discussing here..
I dunno, either you've known it or you haven't...
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
I think it's more about the person you CAN unconditionally love, and not the concept itself.
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally flaws and all, but that's because I know she cannot hurt me no matter what cuz I get her and know where she's coming from. Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person with different personality,character,history, all things that made her her. But science fiction is not what we discussing here..
I dunno, either you've known it or you haven't...click to expand
How odd is this;
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally
Posted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
I think it's more about the person you CAN unconditionally love, and not the concept itself.
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally flaws and all, but that's because I know she cannot hurt me no matter what cuz I get her and know where she's coming from. Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person with different personality,character,history, all things that made her her. But science fiction is not what we discussing here..
I dunno, either you've known it or you haven't...
How odd is this;
I definitely have a person I love unconditionallyclick to expand
You don't?
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
I think it's more about the person you CAN unconditionally love, and not the concept itself.
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally flaws and all, but that's because I know she cannot hurt me no matter what cuz I get her and know where she's coming from. Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person with different personality,character,history, all things that made her her. But science fiction is not what we discussing here..
I dunno, either you've known it or you haven't...
How odd is this;
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally
You don't?click to expand
My phone hanged. What I meant is you said
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally…
And you follow by:
Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person…
I could that odd. So what is it?
Posted by FindingbalancePosted by KachiPosted by FindingbalancePosted by Kachi
Life itself is conditional, so anything under that umbrella is bound to follow the same pattern.
I think this belief has religious origins which is manipulative at its core. It's the same as the teachings r/t forgiveness, regardless of the wrongdoing made to you.
I doubt it's religious. I myself am spiritual but absolutely not religious. I have no problem with supporting others religious beliefs as long as they do no harm, but you're not gonna find me in church.
Religious influence in society, regardless if you're religious or not.
We're also inclined to seek pleasure rather than pain ie staying in an unhealthy romantic relationship. I guess it's better to live in blissful daydreams rather than face the facts of reality. It's either we run or be on guard against pain.
A better question is, who do you love unconditionally?
Society didn't influence this for me. On the contrary, it caused me to question it very much.
Perhaps. But several people here are speaking of it in regards to exs. Whom they themselves left. Which implies that while they loved, they also enforced boundaries.
Several people. Relatives, others. Working on applying it to myself 100% of the time. That's difficult, but that's something for me to work on regarding why. Ironically I believe that's the one person everyone SHOULD have it for. Not always easy. But worthy things usually aren't.click to expand
Are you a dreamer? Your post contains a lot of water and not too many cold facts. It seems you are far from being realistic.
Posted by KachiPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
I think it's more about the person you CAN unconditionally love, and not the concept itself.
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally flaws and all, but that's because I know she cannot hurt me no matter what cuz I get her and know where she's coming from. Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person with different personality,character,history, all things that made her her. But science fiction is not what we discussing here..
I dunno, either you've known it or you haven't...
That is conditional.
"but that's because I know she cannot hurt me no matter what cuz I get her and know where she's coming from."
We all have that soft spot for someone. It doesn't mean it's unconditional.click to expand
That’s what I pointed out and he had not replied yet.
He said he does love her unconditionally and then says he WOULD love her unconditionally IF she became an opposite to what she is…odd AF! But it’s him. Always the same. Strange and too ‘complex’ for his own good.
Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by KachiPosted by ImperfectStormPosted by KachiPosted by ImperfectStormPosted by KachiPosted by ImperfectStormPosted by Kachi
Life itself is conditional, so anything under that umbrella is bound to follow the same pattern.
I think this belief has religious origins which is manipulative at its core. It's the same as the teachings r/t forgiveness, regardless of the wrongdoing made to you.
True, life is conditional but you can continue to love someone even after death (if they’ve passed away) love is not confined by the same conditions as life is. I have not seen my mom since she passed away in 2009 but I don’t love her any less than I did back then. So no, love is not limited by the same conditions as life.
Was she a good mom?
Yea she was.. she was a fierce, protective mama bear. She was also an alcoholic and pill addict. Again, multi-faceted like the rest of us.
But she was still a good mom to you. She was a good parent despite her own struggles and even more commendable that she was capable to protect her child.
Other people don't have that. They could be abused or neglected by their own parent in that same circumstances.
There has to be at least one good thing that outweighs everything and that one thing can be a current, most need by the receiver.
There aren't any exceptions where one can love unconditionally while another is incapable of it. It's all based on circumstances.
There was a time when I was a kid that she passed out with a lit cigarette in her hand with spaghetti noodles boiling on the stove, or the time in my 20s when I got home from work and found her passed out in the bathtub and by the time I got to her, the bath water was cold and her teeth were chattering because she had been passed out so long. It was traumatic for me because she could have drowned. Then the time she stole the Vicodin out of my purse that were ordered for me after I had my wisdom teeth pulled.
There were definitely traumatizing moments when people would say that she failed as a mother. But she lost her own mom when she was only 17 so I’ve learned to look at both the bad and the good and love her as a whole person that was doing the best she could. After the bathtub incident I had to put her out (she was staying with me at the time because she was basically homeless). So again, unconditional love doesn’t mean that you have to be anyones doormat. It just means you don’t stop loving that person based on their behavior or performance.
I didn't imply you were a doormat.
Where did I say that? I pointed out that there has to be at least one good thing that outweighs everything.
Your mom was protective of you, despite her own struggles.
Oh no, I wasn’t saying that you said I was a doormat.. but that seems to be the original point of this thread, that to love unconditionally implies self sacrificial doormat type of people. I definitely wasn’t saying that pointedly toward you, I was just summarizing my point so I apologize if it came across that way.click to expand
I don’t think I have ever considered to be a doormat. I loved unconditionally UNTIL I didn’t anymore.
I think I just came out with new concept.
Temporary Unconditional Love.
What is this for me - I WILL love you unconditionally until you will overstep my boundaries and I will forget your name.
However I absolutely loved you unconditionally BEFORE you fucked up.
I think it is the only way.
Posted by FindingbalancePosted by GemiMayPosted by FindingbalancePosted by KachiPosted by FindingbalancePosted by Kachi
Life itself is conditional, so anything under that umbrella is bound to follow the same pattern.
I think this belief has religious origins which is manipulative at its core. It's the same as the teachings r/t forgiveness, regardless of the wrongdoing made to you.
I doubt it's religious. I myself am spiritual but absolutely not religious. I have no problem with supporting others religious beliefs as long as they do no harm, but you're not gonna find me in church.
Religious influence in society, regardless if you're religious or not.
We're also inclined to seek pleasure rather than pain ie staying in an unhealthy romantic relationship. I guess it's better to live in blissful daydreams rather than face the facts of reality. It's either we run or be on guard against pain.
A better question is, who do you love unconditionally?
Society didn't influence this for me. On the contrary, it caused me to question it very much.
Perhaps. But several people here are speaking of it in regards to exs. Whom they themselves left. Which implies that while they loved, they also enforced boundaries.
Several people. Relatives, others. Working on applying it to myself 100% of the time. That's difficult, but that's something for me to work on regarding why. Ironically I believe that's the one person everyone SHOULD have it for. Not always easy. But worthy things usually aren't.
Are you a dreamer? Your post contains a lot of water and not too many cold facts. It seems you are far from being realistic.
I can be. But I'm quite a realist. I'm more air than water in my chart I believe. My only water is Scorpio. I've got all three air signs in my chart though.
I'm just not bitter. Maybe that makes me a dreamer?click to expand
If you consider people who are down to Earth realistic as bitter - I have to say - you need some rethinking to do or you might grow up being dilusional
Posted by FindingbalancePosted by GemiMayPosted by FindingbalancePosted by KachiPosted by FindingbalancePosted by Kachi
Life itself is conditional, so anything under that umbrella is bound to follow the same pattern.
I think this belief has religious origins which is manipulative at its core. It's the same as the teachings r/t forgiveness, regardless of the wrongdoing made to you.
I doubt it's religious. I myself am spiritual but absolutely not religious. I have no problem with supporting others religious beliefs as long as they do no harm, but you're not gonna find me in church.
Religious influence in society, regardless if you're religious or not.
We're also inclined to seek pleasure rather than pain ie staying in an unhealthy romantic relationship. I guess it's better to live in blissful daydreams rather than face the facts of reality. It's either we run or be on guard against pain.
A better question is, who do you love unconditionally?
Society didn't influence this for me. On the contrary, it caused me to question it very much.
Perhaps. But several people here are speaking of it in regards to exs. Whom they themselves left. Which implies that while they loved, they also enforced boundaries.
Several people. Relatives, others. Working on applying it to myself 100% of the time. That's difficult, but that's something for me to work on regarding why. Ironically I believe that's the one person everyone SHOULD have it for. Not always easy. But worthy things usually aren't.
Are you a dreamer? Your post contains a lot of water and not too many cold facts. It seems you are far from being realistic.
I can be. But I'm quite a realist. I'm more air than water in my chart I believe. My only water is Scorpio. I've got all three air signs in my chart though.
I'm just not bitter. Maybe that makes me a dreamer?click to expand
Air dominants are far from being bitter. And we sure as hell are realists. As real as we can be. But the op don't know that cus her being fire dominant she tries and pick the bitter aspects but unfortunately can't find one.
Look aye. Which air sign dominates you?
Posted by FindingbalancePosted by GemiMayPosted by FindingbalancePosted by GemiMayPosted by FindingbalancePosted by KachiPosted by FindingbalancePosted by Kachi
Life itself is conditional, so anything under that umbrella is bound to follow the same pattern.
I think this belief has religious origins which is manipulative at its core. It's the same as the teachings r/t forgiveness, regardless of the wrongdoing made to you.
I doubt it's religious. I myself am spiritual but absolutely not religious. I have no problem with supporting others religious beliefs as long as they do no harm, but you're not gonna find me in church.
Religious influence in society, regardless if you're religious or not.
We're also inclined to seek pleasure rather than pain ie staying in an unhealthy romantic relationship. I guess it's better to live in blissful daydreams rather than face the facts of reality. It's either we run or be on guard against pain.
A better question is, who do you love unconditionally?
Society didn't influence this for me. On the contrary, it caused me to question it very much.
Perhaps. But several people here are speaking of it in regards to exs. Whom they themselves left. Which implies that while they loved, they also enforced boundaries.
Several people. Relatives, others. Working on applying it to myself 100% of the time. That's difficult, but that's something for me to work on regarding why. Ironically I believe that's the one person everyone SHOULD have it for. Not always easy. But worthy things usually aren't.
Are you a dreamer? Your post contains a lot of water and not too many cold facts. It seems you are far from being realistic.
I can be. But I'm quite a realist. I'm more air than water in my chart I believe. My only water is Scorpio. I've got all three air signs in my chart though.
I'm just not bitter. Maybe that makes me a dreamer?
If you consider people who are down to Earth realistic as bitter - I have to say - you need some rethinking to do or you might grow up being dilusional
Reality is a matter of perspective. Yours is different than mine. I refuse to allow life to imbitter me to the point of believing in a reality where love cannot be unconditional. I'm quite happy on my path. It has given me peace I would have never have known without it.click to expand
Are you some kind of religious fanatic or Krishna monk dancing on the streets wrapped in orange sheets?
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by FindingbalancePosted by GemiMayPosted by FindingbalancePosted by KachiPosted by FindingbalancePosted by Kachi
Life itself is conditional, so anything under that umbrella is bound to follow the same pattern.
I think this belief has religious origins which is manipulative at its core. It's the same as the teachings r/t forgiveness, regardless of the wrongdoing made to you.
I doubt it's religious. I myself am spiritual but absolutely not religious. I have no problem with supporting others religious beliefs as long as they do no harm, but you're not gonna find me in church.
Religious influence in society, regardless if you're religious or not.
We're also inclined to seek pleasure rather than pain ie staying in an unhealthy romantic relationship. I guess it's better to live in blissful daydreams rather than face the facts of reality. It's either we run or be on guard against pain.
A better question is, who do you love unconditionally?
Society didn't influence this for me. On the contrary, it caused me to question it very much.
Perhaps. But several people here are speaking of it in regards to exs. Whom they themselves left. Which implies that while they loved, they also enforced boundaries.
Several people. Relatives, others. Working on applying it to myself 100% of the time. That's difficult, but that's something for me to work on regarding why. Ironically I believe that's the one person everyone SHOULD have it for. Not always easy. But worthy things usually aren't.
Are you a dreamer? Your post contains a lot of water and not too many cold facts. It seems you are far from being realistic.
I can be. But I'm quite a realist. I'm more air than water in my chart I believe. My only water is Scorpio. I've got all three air signs in my chart though.
I'm just not bitter. Maybe that makes me a dreamer?
Air dominants are far from being bitter. And we sure as hell are realists. As real as we can be. But the op don't know that cus her being fire dominant she tries and pick the bitter aspects but unfortunately can't find one.
Look aye. Which air sign dominates you?click to expand
Why are you posting shit that is not true?
How am I fire dominant having Leo and Aries and that’s it? Are you seriously in need of attention so you read people charts and study them?..WRONGLY—
This thread is in need of corny music 😄
Posted by GemiMayPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by FindingbalancePosted by GemiMayPosted by FindingbalancePosted by KachiPosted by FindingbalancePosted by Kachi
Life itself is conditional, so anything under that umbrella is bound to follow the same pattern.
I think this belief has religious origins which is manipulative at its core. It's the same as the teachings r/t forgiveness, regardless of the wrongdoing made to you.
I doubt it's religious. I myself am spiritual but absolutely not religious. I have no problem with supporting others religious beliefs as long as they do no harm, but you're not gonna find me in church.
Religious influence in society, regardless if you're religious or not.
We're also inclined to seek pleasure rather than pain ie staying in an unhealthy romantic relationship. I guess it's better to live in blissful daydreams rather than face the facts of reality. It's either we run or be on guard against pain.
A better question is, who do you love unconditionally?
Society didn't influence this for me. On the contrary, it caused me to question it very much.
Perhaps. But several people here are speaking of it in regards to exs. Whom they themselves left. Which implies that while they loved, they also enforced boundaries.
Several people. Relatives, others. Working on applying it to myself 100% of the time. That's difficult, but that's something for me to work on regarding why. Ironically I believe that's the one person everyone SHOULD have it for. Not always easy. But worthy things usually aren't.
Are you a dreamer? Your post contains a lot of water and not too many cold facts. It seems you are far from being realistic.
I can be. But I'm quite a realist. I'm more air than water in my chart I believe. My only water is Scorpio. I've got all three air signs in my chart though.
I'm just not bitter. Maybe that makes me a dreamer?
Air dominants are far from being bitter. And we sure as hell are realists. As real as we can be. But the op don't know that cus her being fire dominant she tries and pick the bitter aspects but unfortunately can't find one.
Look aye. Which air sign dominates you?
Why are you posting shit that is not true?
How am I fire dominant having Leo and Aries and that’s it? Are you seriously in need of attention so you read people charts and study them?..WRONGLY—click to expand
My astrology days are behind me now. I been stop reading charts. I'm far more interesting in something else. Everybody's secret is safe with me posting their charts on the boards cus I'm no longer interesting in reading it unless I'm tagged to read it.
So much fallacy in OP, I can’t even begin. Lol
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by GemiMayPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by FindingbalancePosted by GemiMayPosted by FindingbalancePosted by KachiPosted by FindingbalancePosted by Kachi
Life itself is conditional, so anything under that umbrella is bound to follow the same pattern.
I think this belief has religious origins which is manipulative at its core. It's the same as the teachings r/t forgiveness, regardless of the wrongdoing made to you.
I doubt it's religious. I myself am spiritual but absolutely not religious. I have no problem with supporting others religious beliefs as long as they do no harm, but you're not gonna find me in church.
Religious influence in society, regardless if you're religious or not.
We're also inclined to seek pleasure rather than pain ie staying in an unhealthy romantic relationship. I guess it's better to live in blissful daydreams rather than face the facts of reality. It's either we run or be on guard against pain.
A better question is, who do you love unconditionally?
Society didn't influence this for me. On the contrary, it caused me to question it very much.
Perhaps. But several people here are speaking of it in regards to exs. Whom they themselves left. Which implies that while they loved, they also enforced boundaries.
Several people. Relatives, others. Working on applying it to myself 100% of the time. That's difficult, but that's something for me to work on regarding why. Ironically I believe that's the one person everyone SHOULD have it for. Not always easy. But worthy things usually aren't.
Are you a dreamer? Your post contains a lot of water and not too many cold facts. It seems you are far from being realistic.
I can be. But I'm quite a realist. I'm more air than water in my chart I believe. My only water is Scorpio. I've got all three air signs in my chart though.
I'm just not bitter. Maybe that makes me a dreamer?
Air dominants are far from being bitter. And we sure as hell are realists. As real as we can be. But the op don't know that cus her being fire dominant she tries and pick the bitter aspects but unfortunately can't find one.
Look aye. Which air sign dominates you?
Why are you posting shit that is not true?
How am I fire dominant having Leo and Aries and that’s it? Are you seriously in need of attention so you read people charts and study them?..WRONGLY—
My astrology days are behind me now. I been stop reading charts. I'm far more interesting in something else. Everybody's secret is safe with me posting their charts on the boards cus I'm no longer interesting in reading it unless I'm tagged to read it.click to expand
So why did you say I am fire dominant? Because you just…you?
Posted by GemiMay
My phone hanged. What I meant is you said
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally…
And you follow by:
Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person…
I could that odd. So what is it?
No, you took that too figurably, the part about the person turning into someone else. I meant it literally and was only intended to illustrate my point.. because a person cannot become a completely different person literally. So unless that happened the love is unconditional regardless of what they go through in life I will always be by their side.
Posted by KachiPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
I think it's more about the person you CAN unconditionally love, and not the concept itself.
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally flaws and all, but that's because I know she cannot hurt me no matter what cuz I get her and know where she's coming from. Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person with different personality,character,history, all things that made her her. But science fiction is not what we discussing here..
I dunno, either you've known it or you haven't...
That is conditional.
"but that's because I know she cannot hurt me no matter what cuz I get her and know where she's coming from."
We all have that soft spot for someone. It doesn't mean it's unconditional.click to expand
How so?
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
My phone hanged. What I meant is you said
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally…
And you follow by:
Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person…
I could that odd. So what is it?
No, you took that too figurably, the part about the person turning into someone else. I meant it literally and was only intended to illustrate my point.. because a person cannot become a completely different person literally. So unless that happened the love is unconditional regardless of what they go through in life I will always be by their side.click to expand
Your post was a mess and this reply even bigger mess.
You messed up. Just shut up and it’ll be forgotten soon.
Posted by GemiMayPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by GemiMayPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by FindingbalancePosted by GemiMayPosted by FindingbalancePosted by KachiPosted by FindingbalancePosted by Kachi
Life itself is conditional, so anything under that umbrella is bound to follow the same pattern.
I think this belief has religious origins which is manipulative at its core. It's the same as the teachings r/t forgiveness, regardless of the wrongdoing made to you.
I doubt it's religious. I myself am spiritual but absolutely not religious. I have no problem with supporting others religious beliefs as long as they do no harm, but you're not gonna find me in church.
Religious influence in society, regardless if you're religious or not.
We're also inclined to seek pleasure rather than pain ie staying in an unhealthy romantic relationship. I guess it's better to live in blissful daydreams rather than face the facts of reality. It's either we run or be on guard against pain.
A better question is, who do you love unconditionally?
Society didn't influence this for me. On the contrary, it caused me to question it very much.
Perhaps. But several people here are speaking of it in regards to exs. Whom they themselves left. Which implies that while they loved, they also enforced boundaries.
Several people. Relatives, others. Working on applying it to myself 100% of the time. That's difficult, but that's something for me to work on regarding why. Ironically I believe that's the one person everyone SHOULD have it for. Not always easy. But worthy things usually aren't.
Are you a dreamer? Your post contains a lot of water and not too many cold facts. It seems you are far from being realistic.
I can be. But I'm quite a realist. I'm more air than water in my chart I believe. My only water is Scorpio. I've got all three air signs in my chart though.
I'm just not bitter. Maybe that makes me a dreamer?
Air dominants are far from being bitter. And we sure as hell are realists. As real as we can be. But the op don't know that cus her being fire dominant she tries and pick the bitter aspects but unfortunately can't find one.
Look aye. Which air sign dominates you?
Why are you posting shit that is not true?
How am I fire dominant having Leo and Aries and that’s it? Are you seriously in need of attention so you read people charts and study them?..WRONGLY—
My astrology days are behind me now. I been stop reading charts. I'm far more interesting in something else. Everybody's secret is safe with me posting their charts on the boards cus I'm no longer interesting in reading it unless I'm tagged to read it.
So why did you say I am fire dominant? Because you just…you?click to expand
Because for some apparent reason you come across as one. At least to me. I'm sure not feeling any air and water dominant vibes from you.
Posted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
My phone hanged. What I meant is you said
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally…
And you follow by:
Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person…
I could that odd. So what is it?
No, you took that too figurably, the part about the person turning into someone else. I meant it literally and was only intended to illustrate my point.. because a person cannot become a completely different person literally. So unless that happened the love is unconditional regardless of what they go through in life I will always be by their side.
Your post was a mess and this reply even bigger mess.
You messed up. Just shut up and it’ll be forgotten soon.click to expand
Plz go back and read your own text and try make sense of that first....
"I could that odd. So what is it?"
The only ppl who fuck up typing like that are those with sausage fingers. How fat are you anyway?
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
My phone hanged. What I meant is you said
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally…
And you follow by:
Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person…
I could that odd. So what is it?
No, you took that too figurably, the part about the person turning into someone else. I meant it literally and was only intended to illustrate my point.. because a person cannot become a completely different person literally. So unless that happened the love is unconditional regardless of what they go through in life I will always be by their side.
Your post was a mess and this reply even bigger mess.
You messed up. Just shut up and it’ll be forgotten soon.
Plz go back and read your own text and try make sense of that first....
"I could that odd. So what is it?"
The only ppl who fuck up typing like that are those with sausage fingers. How fat are you anyway?click to expand
You are pitiful creature!
You REPLIED to my post and when I grabbed your tail - you shit on my post in defense?
What kind of man are you? Definitely not the one you trying to pretend to be.
Posted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
1. "Be an asshole- still loved" Yes, if the right conditions are aligned for you with that particular person. No person is exclusively an asshole . Now if this is about you & your loverboy come out with the actual issue at hand instead of beating around the bush,.. like, asshole how? That's a very broad definition
2. There are tons of ppl who've murdered and done all kinds of shit sitting on death row or behind bars for life, who have people (family,friends) that love them and visit them. You can condemn a person's actions without condemning the whole person bc no one act - or even a series of bad choices - can solely define a person.
That's not to say there aren't people who are not loved by anyone bc they have no redeeming qualities.
Posted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
My phone hanged. What I meant is you said
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally…
And you follow by:
Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person…
I could that odd. So what is it?
No, you took that too figurably, the part about the person turning into someone else. I meant it literally and was only intended to illustrate my point.. because a person cannot become a completely different person literally. So unless that happened the love is unconditional regardless of what they go through in life I will always be by their side.
Your post was a mess and this reply even bigger mess.
You messed up. Just shut up and it’ll be forgotten soon.
Plz go back and read your own text and try make sense of that first....
"I could that odd. So what is it?"
The only ppl who fuck up typing like that are those with sausage fingers. How fat are you anyway?
You are pitiful creature!
You REPLIED to my post and when I grabbed your tail - you shit on my post in defense?
What kind of man are you? Definitely not the one you trying to pretend to be.click to expand
Only after you shit on mine cuz you lack in the comprehension department.. I was gonna let it slide, susage fingers are no laughing matter. But then u come in full retard am I'z like 'Wut is this bytch even on about'
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
1. "Be an asshole- still loved" Yes, if the right conditions are aligned for you with that particular person. No person is exclusively an asshole . Now if this is about you & your loverboy come out with the actual issue at hand instead of beating around the bush,.. like, asshole how? That's a very broad definition
2. There are tons of ppl who've murdered and done all kinds of shit sitting on death row or behind bars for life, who have people (family,friends) that love them and visit them. You can condemn a person's actions without condemning the whole person bc no one act - or even a series of bad choices - can solely define a person.
That's not to say there aren't people who are not loved by anyone bc they have no redeeming qualities.click to expand
I thought you a few somewhat smart. Until these inane posts you keep on making and it doesnt show brain cells presence.
I said more than once - I do NOT date assholes so the answer is - to me once is an asshole - unconditional love morphing into very conditional love where being an asshole means termination of love. Understood?
And if many people who raped and murdered people are loved unconditionally by their family still - I am very sorry that people are this stupid. Yes…SERIOUS of bad choices define person as stupid and if those are crimes - fuck that ‘person’.
Got to go.
Posted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
1. "Be an asshole- still loved" Yes, if the right conditions are aligned for you with that particular person. No person is exclusively an asshole . Now if this is about you & your loverboy come out with the actual issue at hand instead of beating around the bush,.. like, asshole how? That's a very broad definition
2. There are tons of ppl who've murdered and done all kinds of shit sitting on death row or behind bars for life, who have people (family,friends) that love them and visit them. You can condemn a person's actions without condemning the whole person bc no one act - or even a series of bad choices - can solely define a person.
That's not to say there aren't people who are not loved by anyone bc they have no redeeming qualities.
I thought you a few somewhat smart. Until these inane posts you keep on making and it doesnt show brain cells presence.
I said more than once - I do NOT date assholes so the answer is - to me once is an asshole - unconditional love morphing into very conditional love where being an asshole means termination of love. Understood?
And if many people who raped and murdered people are loved unconditionally by their family still - I am very sorry that people are this stupid. Yes…SERIOUS of bad choices define person as stupid and if those are crimes - fuck that ‘person’.
Got to go.click to expand
I'm not trying to convince you to do anything, are you mental? You asked, I shared my perspective. Have some fucking wine and chill the fuck out
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
1. "Be an asshole- still loved" Yes, if the right conditions are aligned for you with that particular person. No person is exclusively an asshole . Now if this is about you & your loverboy come out with the actual issue at hand instead of beating around the bush,.. like, asshole how? That's a very broad definition
2. There are tons of ppl who've murdered and done all kinds of shit sitting on death row or behind bars for life, who have people (family,friends) that love them and visit them. You can condemn a person's actions without condemning the whole person bc no one act - or even a series of bad choices - can solely define a person.
That's not to say there aren't people who are not loved by anyone bc they have no redeeming qualities.
I thought you a few somewhat smart. Until these inane posts you keep on making and it doesnt show brain cells presence.
I said more than once - I do NOT date assholes so the answer is - to me once is an asshole - unconditional love morphing into very conditional love where being an asshole means termination of love. Understood?
And if many people who raped and murdered people are loved unconditionally by their family still - I am very sorry that people are this stupid. Yes…SERIOUS of bad choices define person as stupid and if those are crimes - fuck that ‘person’.
Got to go.
I'm not trying to convince you to do anything, are you mental? You asked, I shared my perspective. Have some fucking wine and chill the fuck outclick to expand
You COULD technically just stop replying but you decided to win the 🏆in whatever it is…and you telling ME to fuck out? Why don’t you man up and stop throwing tantrum like a middle age hysterical woman? Try. You might pass for a man.
Posted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
1. "Be an asshole- still loved" Yes, if the right conditions are aligned for you with that particular person. No person is exclusively an asshole . Now if this is about you & your loverboy come out with the actual issue at hand instead of beating around the bush,.. like, asshole how? That's a very broad definition
2. There are tons of ppl who've murdered and done all kinds of shit sitting on death row or behind bars for life, who have people (family,friends) that love them and visit them. You can condemn a person's actions without condemning the whole person bc no one act - or even a series of bad choices - can solely define a person.
That's not to say there aren't people who are not loved by anyone bc they have no redeeming qualities.
I thought you a few somewhat smart. Until these inane posts you keep on making and it doesnt show brain cells presence.
I said more than once - I do NOT date assholes so the answer is - to me once is an asshole - unconditional love morphing into very conditional love where being an asshole means termination of love. Understood?
And if many people who raped and murdered people are loved unconditionally by their family still - I am very sorry that people are this stupid. Yes…SERIOUS of bad choices define person as stupid and if those are crimes - fuck that ‘person’.
Got to go.
I'm not trying to convince you to do anything, are you mental? You asked, I shared my perspective. Have some fucking wine and chill the fuck out
You COULD technically just stop replying but you decided to win the 🏆in whatever it is…and you telling ME to fuck out? Why don’t you man up and stop throwing tantrum like a middle age hysterical woman? Try. You might pass for a man.click to expand
You also could just stop replying.. or attacking ppl for not giving you the replies you expected to hear. Here let me hold your hand
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
People throwing this term around like something real and I say - imagine love without conditions. Isn’t it saddest shit ever?
Nothing is done to person who love is supposed to make love go away.
Be an asshole - still loved— No fucking way!
Loving unconditionally isn’t even true for children. If child is a molester or a piece of shit - I am sorry. Got to draw a line somewhere…
So what is your opinion on this myth?
1. "Be an asshole- still loved" Yes, if the right conditions are aligned for you with that particular person. No person is exclusively an asshole . Now if this is about you & your loverboy come out with the actual issue at hand instead of beating around the bush,.. like, asshole how? That's a very broad definition
2. There are tons of ppl who've murdered and done all kinds of shit sitting on death row or behind bars for life, who have people (family,friends) that love them and visit them. You can condemn a person's actions without condemning the whole person bc no one act - or even a series of bad choices - can solely define a person.
That's not to say there aren't people who are not loved by anyone bc they have no redeeming qualities.
I thought you a few somewhat smart. Until these inane posts you keep on making and it doesnt show brain cells presence.
I said more than once - I do NOT date assholes so the answer is - to me once is an asshole - unconditional love morphing into very conditional love where being an asshole means termination of love. Understood?
And if many people who raped and murdered people are loved unconditionally by their family still - I am very sorry that people are this stupid. Yes…SERIOUS of bad choices define person as stupid and if those are crimes - fuck that ‘person’.
Got to go.
I'm not trying to convince you to do anything, are you mental? You asked, I shared my perspective. Have some fucking wine and chill the fuck out
You COULD technically just stop replying but you decided to win the 🏆in whatever it is…and you telling ME to fuck out? Why don’t you man up and stop throwing tantrum like a middle age hysterical woman? Try. You might pass for a man.
You also could just stop replying.. or attacking ppl for not giving you the replies you expected to hear. Here let me hold your handclick to expand
I am not telling anyone to fuck out. Am I?
You do. It means you are upset. So you need to stop and fuck out.
I am going to stop as soon as my bf will pick me up from work…in few minutes. So far I am available to see how you are acting like a woman…it’s always fun. 😀
Posted by GemiMayPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
My phone hanged. What I meant is you said
I definitely have a person I love unconditionally…
And you follow by:
Only way I wouldn't love her unconditionally is if she literally became a completely different person…
I could that odd. So what is it?
No, you took that too figurably, the part about the person turning into someone else. I meant it literally and was only intended to illustrate my point.. because a person cannot become a completely different person literally. So unless that happened the love is unconditional regardless of what they go through in life I will always be by their side.
Your post was a mess and this reply even bigger mess.
You messed up. Just shut up and it’ll be forgotten soon.click to expand
Case in point 👆
I gave you what I'd consider a polite reply which is a rare occurance when i interact with annoying people. You didn't quite understand and I said you misunderstood me and politely tried to explain what I meant again
Then you went off the rails banging your head against the keyboard like a fucking moron telling me to shut up, bc you are frustrated cuz you cannot understand how I mean still.
I have no problem with you or anyone telling me to fuck off or shut up, but at least have some self-awareness of what you are saying and how you come off, unless you are mentally ill, in which case I understand you don't fully grasp the extent of your malfunction
Posted by GemiMay
I am not telling anyone to fuck out. Am I?
You do. It means you are upset. So you need to stop and fuck out.
I am going to stop as soon as my bf will pick me up from work…in few minutes. So far I am available to see how you are acting like a woman…it’s always fun. 😀
What boyfriend? We all know you don't love him unconditionally and that he's an "asshole" lol. Pour yourself another glass of wine
It's hard for someone like me to even utter the words "I love you" to anyone let alone "I love you unconditionally". I do love my kids and all but is it necessary for me to actually say it? I can love by showing it rather than saying it.
I'm just saying plus I'm trying to get on track with the thread's subject.
I'm just saying plus I'm trying to get on track with the thread's subject.
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by GemiMay
I am not telling anyone to fuck out. Am I?
You do. It means you are upset. So you need to stop and fuck out.
I am going to stop as soon as my bf will pick me up from work…in few minutes. So far I am available to see how you are acting like a woman…it’s always fun. 😀
What boyfriend? We all know you don't love him unconditionally and that he's an "asshole" lol. Pour yourself another glass of wineclick to expand
I do NOT love anybody unconditionally. And thank you - we had a beer. So what did you do with YOUR woman you love unconditionally but not really because she isn’t the person you would love…blah blah blah whatever sentence comes to you next…
one time, i came home pretty late and dinner was ready. clothes perfectly folded 😍😍
even better than my folding 😭😭
even better than my folding 😭😭
Posted by virgoOPPP
one time, i came home pretty late and dinner was ready. clothes perfectly folded 😍😍
even better than my folding 😭😭
Well…don’t tell me you weren’t supposed to suck his dick for his ‘services’…😂😂😂
Yeah! Tell me! Can’t wait…🤷♀️😂
Posted by FindingbalancePosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
It's hard for someone like me to even utter the words "I love you" to anyone let alone "I love you unconditionally". I do love my kids and all but is it necessary for me to actually say it? I can love by showing it rather than saying it.
I'm just saying plus I'm trying to get on track with the thread's subject.
Guess that depends on the other person. Some people absolutely do need to hear it, others are perfectly fine with it being unsaid but shown. As long as the receiver knows and feels loved, then it's probably just fine showing vs saying.click to expand
But me saying "I love you" will sound jokey coming from my mouth. It just won't sound genuine. That's why I prefer to show it rather than say it. Like if someone were to tell me to tell them I love them ill most certainly laugh, ask a lot of questions or whatever I can come up with to get around telling them that. Oh it'll happen eventually but just not right away without a bunch of excuses. It won't sound real.
Posted by FindingbalancePosted by LaLueur
Applause.The beast trolled you again 🥲
Meh, in order to get trolled you have to get annoyed imo. And no one here even remotely annoyed me. I gave opinions, bantered for the sake of my own amusement and ceased when I got bored. I kind of like gemitati, she truly believes herself when she talks and some of the misunderstanding is simple language barrier I think (not this time but sometimes). Some others, eh, pedantic bores.click to expand
Believe it or not even I can say I get annoyed by her even if she's not trolling me. The things that come out her mouth is just stupid crazy. She needs to wash her mouth out with soap. If she communicates with certain users the way she do on this site, nine times out of ten she talks to people in real life the same exact way. I wanna think she's in the learning stage when it comes to speaking English since English is not her native tongue. Living in the US you gotta learn English.
Posted by LaLueur
Applause.The beast trolled you again 🥲
And @Findingbalance
I wasnt sure that LaLuer was addressing me but I am not really (honestly) understanding WHY my sudden wish speaking of BS if unconditional love spiked someone’s troll alarm…I guess that is why some sees me as troll or whatever - and it is not language barrier because I am back to corporate (even government) job so…
I might be speaking better when I actually CARE what people think of me and they PAYING me well for it…
The mixed bunch on here who spewing hate and all they can is to shit over my language skills - whatever! I get paid more than you do with your super skills…as if.
It’s too bad that you do not speak the truth. Your lives are…spectacles.
I do believe that Entertainment Show at our good times emailing each other told me that people hate me because at MY age I have more going on than they do and I wasn’t sure but now I see…he was right.
BTW a lot of you are hated by those who kissing your asses and you have NO idea according to your posts! Did you know?
And for Carlos - I do not undertand how can YOU say ANYTHING unless you are a narcissist and then I understand. I do not consider you as a real man - you are the only one who is my punching bag on purpose. But level of your intelligence - I am not even satisfied by trolling you because it’s like dealing with child or mentally ill so whatever, TinMan. Don’t get wet…
Posted by GemiMayPosted by LaLueur
Applause.The beast trolled you again 🥲
And @Findingbalance
I wasnt sure that LaLuer was addressing me but I am not really (honestly) understanding WHY my sudden wish speaking of BS if unconditional love spiked someone’s troll alarm…I guess that is why some sees me as troll or whatever - and it is not language barrier because I am back to corporate (even government) job so…
I might be speaking better when I actually CARE what people think of me and they PAYING me well for it…
The mixed bunch on here who spewing hate and all they can is to shit over my language skills - whatever! I get paid more than you do with your super skills…as if.
It’s too bad that you do not speak the truth. Your lives are…spectacles.
I do believe that Entertainment Show at our good times emailing each other told me that people hate me because at MY age I have more going on than they do and I wasn’t sure but now I see…he was right.
BTW a lot of you are hated by those who kissing your asses and you have NO idea according to your posts! Did you know?
And for Carlos - I do not undertand how can YOU say ANYTHING unless you are a narcissist and then I understand. I do not consider you as a real man - you are the only one who is my punching bag on purpose. But level of your intelligence - I am not even satisfied by trolling you because it’s like dealing with child or mentally ill so whatever, TinMan. Don’t get wet…click to expand
Gemitati. Look aye. Check this out. I didn't read all this post of yours. I only red the paragraph about HeavyEntertainmentShow and the last paragraph about me. About HES I agree with you. Dude is cool and a good guy. I found it sad how everybody accuses him of being a pedo when nobody knows his sichations and what's going on with him. As for what you say about me, it's cool. I'm not one to lose my temper. I will even go as far to invite you to have a few brews and chill with me. I'm chillin and drinking right now by the way. Seeing that you can use a few cold beers to calm yourself a bit I welcome you to a toast
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