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All I'm saying, is think about the words you are saying to another person. Think about the possible consequences of those words. What those words can do.
Our world would be a much happier place if words were chosen more correctly.
Our choice of language shows our character and breeding.
Our world would be a much happier place if words were chosen more correctly.
Our choice of language shows our character and breeding.
Nemesis I agree with your approach.
Posted by SanchoElMejor
I have to disagree with you all. A better idea would be to learn how to control your emotions. The person saying 'go kill yourself' has control over you because you let them. Low emotional intelligence is probably the biggest weakness you can have in a civilized world from an evolution stand point.
I'm not against emotions. I'm just saying that if you're really on the verge of killing yourself because of what someone said over the internet, then you're the one with a problem, and you need to seek help. And I also think people should be able to say whatever they want.
That aside, websites like this just don't work that way.
If they did, they wouldn't get the traffic needed to stay around.
Posted by NemesisPosted by SanchoElMejor
I have to disagree with you all. A better idea would be to learn how to control your emotions. The person saying 'go kill yourself' has control over you because you let them. Low emotional intelligence is probably the biggest weakness you can have in a civilized world from an evolution stand point.
I'm not against emotions. I'm just saying that if you're really on the verge of killing yourself because of what someone said over the internet, then you're the one with a problem, and you need to seek help. And I also think people should be able to say whatever they want.
that is not the whole point though. there are people on here who are mentally unstable, who are already in deep depression or for whatever other reasons have hit rock bottom and they don't need much to tilt them off. telling somebody you have no clue about to go "kill yourself" can make the already existing problems bigger.
now, i know dxp is not a place to seek help from in regards of depression or other mental problems; it's clearly not a therapy session - but it does not have to be a place to make you feel shittier about yourself either.
i??ve seen four people use this frequently
clueless cancer
carlos (mainly in response to CC)
scorchedearth
and purrrhisss (mainly in response to attacks from scorchedearth)
those are the ones i know about, because twice i was told to go and kill myself by two different individuals from that list (CC and scorchedearth) - i am sure there are others express that phrase on here too.
i will report such behaviour from now on.
click to expand
So will I.
Posted by duchessedenemours
I think it's kind of hilarious how some people expect people to be very considerate to them and that they should be gentle and sweet and polite, when they trample over other people at the same time and don't care beyond anything except their own frustration or anger.
I don't think anyone expects that; I don't.
I think people object to posters suggesting that one should kill himself, as the title says.
Posted by duchessedenemours
I see it all the time. People continuously behave in the same manner that they criticize. It only bothers them when they are the target.
For the most part, I have no problem with most behavior on this forum, except for people telling someone to kill themselves. It hasn't been said to me.
I wasn't sure if you meant that as a statement in general or to the creater of the thread.
Posted by feby16aquaPosted by Layna
DXP ~can~ adopt the karma system. 😛
yeah I belonged to a website years back that had a karma system. It was my libra moon's erotic dream.click to expand
How does the karma system work?
Posted by duchessedenemoursPosted by truecapPosted by duchessedenemours
I see it all the time. People continuously behave in the same manner that they criticize. It only bothers them when they are the target.
For the most part, I have no problem with most behavior on this forum, except for people telling someone to kill themselves. It hasn't been said to me.
I wasn't sure if you meant that as a statement in general or to the creater of the thread.
Well it's my commentary on what's going on. If I direct anything to anyone specific I'll use their name.click to expand
It's all good.
Posted by truecapPosted by duchessedenemours
I see it all the time. People continuously behave in the same manner that they criticize. It only bothers them when they are the target.
For the most part, I have no problem with most behavior on this forum, except for people telling someone to kill themselves. It hasn't been said to me.
I wasn't sure if you meant that as a statement in general or to the creater of the thread.click to expand
There are many other things said here that are just as bad as that phrase??_
Posted by Layna
On Reddit, though, you can get a lot of karma just by posting nudes. *laughs*
No No NO fucking no fuck that off completely!!!!??_??_
no one on DXP has ever fucking committed suicide because someone told them to go fuck themselves off, If you wanted someone dead there are way worse things you could say we already have a moderator if someone has a problem with being told to go kill themselves then they should take it up with the moderator??_..we are all relatively stable intelligent people because we are on an astrology forum??_..nothing needs to change??_.what needs to happen is everyone stop complaining about shit and making a fuss over nothing??_..
Its just annoying when something simple gets complicated by politics and bullshit??_.
Posted by truecap
I am offended by this behavior. I read people posting this to other users a lot lately and not only is it unecessary, but it is also crass and rude, making the one who posts it look like an illiterate, boorish ass who doesn't know how to communicate their thoughts in a presentable, logical way.
Yall need to think before you post something like that. What if the person you said it to was depressed and that just pushed them over the edge and they actually did it? How would you feel then?
Yes, this is the internet, and you may or may not be serious when you write this statement. You may be making a ill conceived "joke", however you have NO IDEA the mental state of the person you are talking to.
So, please refrain from saying this statement.
Thank you for your consideration.
+ 1 gazillion!!!
Posted by duchessedenemoursPosted by feby16aquaPosted by duchessedenemours
I see it all the time. People continuously behave in the same manner that they criticize. It only bothers them when they are the target.
I don't see that here at all...but don't mind me I'm lost in space today lol.
The whole reason it escalated was because people couldn't handle being the recipient of something they were doing themselves.click to expand
That is false... as I was one of those that was on the receiving end of the behavior being discussed in this thread. I am polite, do not cuss at others, threaten them.. I could go one. My positing history speaks for itself. It was uncalled for to be attacked for supporting someone who was expressing this exact thing being discussed. I did leave the thread thanks to Xcake...and did what is being suggested... and not a thing was done. so really what's the point? It has continue even since that day..
Posted by xcake
Let Duncan decide what breaks the Terms & Conditions.
PM him the thread or PM that needs his/her attention. Duncan decides.
The best thing to protect yourself is to not engage with people who will not do you good. For your own sanity, don't get involved with people who you can't tolerate. It stops the cycle and there's no back and forth.
Yes ma'am... don't feed the trolls is my favorite saying lately.
Posted by truecap
For the most part, I have no problem with most behavior on this forum, except for people telling someone to kill themselves. It hasn't been said to me.
I wasn't sure if you meant that as a statement in general or to the creater of the thread.
FFS!! This thread is turning out to be one of the infamous seraph "sacred trust liberal b.s. antics. How many posts of whines later and I'm suppose to worry about what particular behaviors YOU have a problem with? I've seen you chant on some pretty nasty behavior... Give it a rest. smh
Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11
Its just annoying when something simple gets complicated by politics and bullshit??_.
Liberal, thought police bullshit is what it is.
This is a good, serious topic to address, and thank you TC for having the class to do so without having to name & shame and turn it into another hate parade.
http://www.stopbullying.gov/laws/<BR>
^^^Here's a website that could possibly help steer some of the US victims of such harassment in the right direction.
http://www.stopbullying.gov/laws/<BR>
^^^Here's a website that could possibly help steer some of the US victims of such harassment in the right direction.
Example :: If you want a bully to stop bullying, do you address the whole school or do you address the bully?
Raising awareness goes only so far imo.
Raising awareness goes only so far imo.
Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11
I have to admit I've said it before and really meant it??_..And I'm sorry ??_.but James Tate your still a dick hole for whatever reason I can't remember its been so long??_
Hey, hey, that's not nice.
Posted by LetltBPosted by truecap
For the most part, I have no problem with most behavior on this forum, except for people telling someone to kill themselves. It hasn't been said to me.
I wasn't sure if you meant that as a statement in general or to the creater of the thread.
FFS!! This thread is turning out to be one of the infamous seraph "sacred trust liberal b.s. antics. How many posts of whines later and I'm suppose to worry about what particular behaviors YOU have a problem with? I've seen you chant on some pretty nasty behavior... Give it a rest. smhclick to expand
You're more than welcome to toss in your opinions, but I thought you were leaving the thread. ??
Posted by TMV
This is a good, serious topic to address, and thank you TC for having the class to do so without having to name & shame and turn it into another hate parade.
http://www.stopbullying.gov/laws/<BR>
^^^Here's a website that could possibly help steer some of the US victims of such harassment in the right direction.
Thank you TMV.
Posted by SanchoElMejor
The only serious cyber bullying I've seen on this site is directed at CluelessCancer, and she takes it on the chin like a champ. The rest of you need to walk it off.
Now, now, lets be fair, she starts a lot of it.
Posted by duchessedenemoursPosted by MontgomeryPosted by duchessedenemours
I think it's kind of hilarious how some people expect people to be very considerate to them and that they should be gentle and sweet and polite, when they trample over other people at the same time and don't care beyond anything except their own frustration or anger.
I don't think anyone expects that; I don't.
I think people object to posters suggesting that one should kill himself, as the title says.
Well I think they do. 🙂click to expand
Suit yourself.
It isn't against the rules for you to be wrong. 🙂
And hypocrisy *does* abound--
But the ones who expect to be treated better than they treat others are typically the same ones that suggest others kill themselves.
Posted by feby16aqua
Yeah but at the same time, wouldn't we want the anti-thought police to be universal? Is by doing nothing about it and not addressing it just allowing it to be ok?
This is how she feels. And it looks like other people feel the same way.
...and some don't give a rats ass. Especially the people who are infamous for chanting on the elle/seraph bullying in these forums of someone who claimed to be raped. ..LIKE YOU. Remember that?
See how easy that was? Give it a rest.
Posted by SanchoElMejor
The only serious cyber bullying I've seen on this site is directed at CluelessCancer, and she takes it on the chin like a champ. The rest of you need to walk it off.
You're new.
Or you're cc's new sock puppet account.
Either way, you aren't qualified to comment.
Posted by seraphPosted by truecap
I am offended by this behavior. I read people posting this to other users a lot lately and not only is it unecessary, but it is also crass and rude, making the one who posts it look like an illiterate, boorish ass who doesn't know how to communicate their thoughts in a presentable, logical way.
Yall need to think before you post something like that. What if the person you said it to was depressed and that just pushed them over the edge and they actually did it? How would you feel then?
Yes, this is the internet, and you may or may not be serious when you write this statement. You may be making a illconceived "joke", however you have NO IDEA the mental state of the person you are talking to.
So, please refrain from saying this statement.
Thank you for your consideration.
Great post.
I couldn't imagine why someone *wouldn't* respond to this with resounding agreement. Well, actually
I could, but I'm hoping that the usual DXP clientele is more sophisticated and in possession of enough discernment and good taste to *just know*.
Some things just need to be said, and you've posted a good reminder. It's unfortunate that not everyone can or is willing to draw the line somewhere, because "it's just the internet." This excuse - to use the internet as a thoughtless form of escapism where all is permitted without regard to consequences, might have been acceptable in 1998 or whatnot, but today it's as real and meaningful as any other means of daily communication, and *living space* that we share with others.click to expand
Come closer, lets share some space darlin. lol
oh and hey "Cap"..been onto you for a long time. 😉
Posted by duchessedenemoursPosted by MontgomeryPosted by duchessedenemoursPosted by MontgomeryPosted by duchessedenemours
I think it's kind of hilarious how some people expect people to be very considerate to them and that they should be gentle and sweet and polite, when they trample over other people at the same time and don't care beyond anything except their own frustration or anger.
I don't think anyone expects that; I don't.
I think people object to posters suggesting that one should kill himself, as the title says.
Well I think they do. 🙂
Suit yourself.
It isn't against the rules for you to be wrong. 🙂
And hypocrisy *does* abound--
But the ones who expect to be treated better than they treat others are typically the same ones that suggest others kill themselves.
Well, that was kind of my original point.click to expand
I seriously doubt it-- you would have (or should have) clarified in your previous response.
My perception of your meaning was obvious.
Posted by SanchoElMejorPosted by MontgomeryPosted by SanchoElMejor
I have to disagree with you all. A better idea would be to learn how to control your emotions. The person saying 'go kill yourself' has control over you because you let them. Low emotional intelligence is probably the biggest weakness you can have in a civilized world from an evolution stand point.
I'm not against emotions. I'm just saying that if you're really on the verge of killing yourself because of what someone said over the internet, then you're the one with a problem, and you need to seek help. And I also think people should be able to say whatever they want.
That aside, websites like this just don't work that way.
If they did, they wouldn't get the traffic needed to stay around.
That's not how this works....When people post threads and comments, it takes up bandwidth. I think every website created gets a certain amount of free bandwidth, but when more people start visiting, more bandwidth is being used. When that happens, the site creator has to pay for more bandwidth. That's why he put ads up. It's so people on here click on them so the ad companies will pay him, and he can then put that money into the bandwidth charge. He's keeping this site alive for you guys not the other way around.click to expand
lol
That's great, but I meant people don't get to say whatever they want; there are terms and conditions that we all have to abide by.
You may think people should be able to say whatever they want, but that just doesn't matter.
He's already banned her from the front page once for her behavior, so she isn't immune.
And the same people won't stick around to be verbally abused; only those who can't think of anything better to say than "go kill yourself" at the slightest offense.
And what a cesspool that would be.
Posted by aquapiscescusp
Example :: If you want a bully to stop bullying, do you address the whole school or do you address the bully?
Raising awareness goes only so far imo.
Raising general awareness is a great start IMO. Hopefully others will be more likely to speak out when they notice cyber bullying going on around here.
Posted by SpiceNSugarPosted by aquapiscescusp
Example :: If you want a bully to stop bullying, do you address the whole school or do you address the bully?
Raising awareness goes only so far imo.
Raising general awareness is a great start IMO. Hopefully others will be more likely to speak out when they notice cyber bullying going on around here.click to expand
Yes, cuz we all need to be told that GO KILL YOURSELF is a bad thing??_ sure 😉
I'm a little preoccupied at the moment, so I had a chance to read through the thread. So I just wanted to interject my thoughts into the discussion. While I am against censoring free speech, many of these comments from different posters can serve their interests of derailing a thread, because the thread will be deleted instead of dealing with the individual who said the comments in the first place. So instead of the individual who made the remarks being held accountable. The creator of the thread is punished, as well as all the posters on the thread. So a open and honest discussion can go for naught, because of the actions of one individual.
Posted by mrdesperado
I'm a little preoccupied at the moment, so I haven't had a chance to read through the thread. So I just wanted to interject my thoughts into the discussion. While I am against censoring free speech, many of these comments from different posters can serve their interests of derailing a thread, because the thread will be deleted instead of dealing with the individual who said the comments in the first place. So instead of the individual who made the remarks being held accountable. The creator of the thread is punished, as well as all the posters on the thread. So a open and honest discussion can go for naught, because of the actions of one individual.
Posted by duchessedenemours
Or my opinions are my own and I don't need anyone's stamp of approval.
Opinions are subjective, y'all.
lol okay
But I don't think this thread or its participants are hypocrites-- you're making it sound like they (we) are.
This issue is not black & white.
For example: You can tell me to get fucked, you can tell me I'm wrong, you can call me anything you like--
I really, really like to argue.
(And if you get to that point, you've already lost, anyway.)
But I draw the line at people telling other people to kill themselves--
Or that you hope they are stabbed to death-- or that they are going to kill you themselves, if you continue to respond.
Third post down: LINK
Ninth post down: LINK
That ^ is something entirely different.
Posted by aquapiscescuspPosted by SpiceNSugarPosted by aquapiscescusp
Example :: If you want a bully to stop bullying, do you address the whole school or do you address the bully?
Raising awareness goes only so far imo.
Raising general awareness is a great start IMO. Hopefully others will be more likely to speak out when they notice cyber bullying going on around here.
Yes, cuz we all need to be told that GO KILL YOURSELF is a bad thing??_ sure 😉click to expand
Listen Toots, maybe you and I don't need to be reminded of this fact but unfortunately there are plenty of people 'round these parts that need reminding 😛
Posted by SpiceNSugarPosted by aquapiscescuspPosted by SpiceNSugarPosted by aquapiscescusp
Example :: If you want a bully to stop bullying, do you address the whole school or do you address the bully?
Raising awareness goes only so far imo.
Raising general awareness is a great start IMO. Hopefully others will be more likely to speak out when they notice cyber bullying going on around here.
Yes, cuz we all need to be told that GO KILL YOURSELF is a bad thing??_ sure 😉
Listen Toots, maybe you and I don't need to be reminded of this fact but unfortunately there are plenty of people 'round these parts that need reminding 😛click to expand
TOOTS—
Is that anyway to address someone??
BAN HER
I spit out the water I was drinking when I read that??_
LOL
HA HA HA!!! OMG I've just cyber bullied you into spitting up! You're right! I deserve to be banned for that 😄
(P.S. Good thing you weren't drinking a Coke 'cause then it would've gone up your nose and that's really unpleasant ....just sayin')
(P.S. Good thing you weren't drinking a Coke 'cause then it would've gone up your nose and that's really unpleasant ....just sayin')
It made me laugh when she called you that. I thought it was cute. Haven't heard that word since my grandmother was alive.
Sorry, sugarnspice, not making fun of you.
Sorry, sugarnspice, not making fun of you.
Posted by SpiceNSugar
HA HA HA!!! OMG I've just cyber bullied you into spitting up! You're right! I deserve to be banned for that 😄
(P.S. Good thing you weren't drinking a Coke 'cause then it would've gone up your nose and that's really unpleasant ....just sayin')
Yes, good thing!!
Posted by truecap
It made me laugh when she called you that. I thought it was cute. Haven't heard that word since my grandmother was alive.
Sorry, sugarnspice, not making fun of you.
BAN HER for equating me to a grandma!!!!
😉
Posted by truecap
It made me laugh when she called you that. I thought it was cute. Haven't heard that word since my grandmother was alive.
Sorry, sugarnspice, not making fun of you.
It was unexpected LOL that's for sure.
Posted by SpiceNSugarPosted by truecap
It made me laugh when she called you that. I thought it was cute. Haven't heard that word since my grandmother was alive.
Sorry, sugarnspice, not making fun of you.
BAN HER for equating me to a grandma!!!!
😉click to expand
If you said Go kill yourself Toots??_ it has a different feel to it. Not as tragic.
Posted by aquapiscescuspPosted by truecap
It made me laugh when she called you that. I thought it was cute. Haven't heard that word since my grandmother was alive.
Sorry, sugarnspice, not making fun of you.
It was unexpected LOL that's for sure.click to expand
It's nice we got a laugh out of it 🙂
Posted by SpiceNSugarPosted by truecap
It made me laugh when she called you that. I thought it was cute. Haven't heard that word since my grandmother was alive.
Sorry, sugarnspice, not making fun of you.
BAN HER for equating me to a grandma!!!!
😉click to expand
lol!!
Posted by SpiceNSugarPosted by aquapiscescuspPosted by truecap
It made me laugh when she called you that. I thought it was cute. Haven't heard that word since my grandmother was alive.
Sorry, sugarnspice, not making fun of you.
It was unexpected LOL that's for sure.
It's nice we got a laugh out of it 🙂click to expand
TOOTS
Term of endearment roughly equivalent to baby.
Note: Only applicable if you live in a black and white movie.
Him: Hiya, toots, whaddya say we blow this joint and head over to the speakeasy?
Her: And how!
Wut?
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by duchessedenemours
Or my opinions are my own and I don't need anyone's stamp of approval.
Opinions are subjective, y'all.
lol okay
But I don't think this thread or its participants are hypocrites-- you're making it sound like they (we) are.
This issue is not black & white.
For example: You can tell me to get fucked, you can tell me I'm wrong, you can call me anything you like--
I really, really like to argue.
(And if you get to that point, you've already lost, anyway.)
But I draw the line at people telling other people to kill themselves--
Or that you hope they are stabbed to death-- or that they are going to kill you themselves, if you continue to respond.
Third post down: LINK
Ninth post down: LINK
That ^ is something entirely different.
click to expand
I'm useless as the quote function so I'm just gonna say in reference to the two links....wow.
As far as I'm concerned it's incredibly poor taste and speaks volumes about the person uttering it.
I didn't read the whole thread but if that's the case then that's deplorable also.
I just don't see any need for that sort of talk regardless of dispute. Conduct yourself with class.
I just don't see any need for that sort of talk regardless of dispute. Conduct yourself with class.
Posted by SanchoElMejor
Didn't that gemini constantly berate her and call her the n word over and over?
I smell a sock puppet.
Whatever.
Posted by SanchoElMejorPosted by MissPiratePosted by MontgomeryPosted by duchessedenemours
Or my opinions are my own and I don't need anyone's stamp of approval.
Opinions are subjective, y'all.
lol okay
But I don't think this thread or its participants are hypocrites-- you're making it sound like they (we) are.
This issue is not black & white.
For example: You can tell me to get fucked, you can tell me I'm wrong, you can call me anything you like--
I really, really like to argue.
(And if you get to that point, you've already lost, anyway.)
But I draw the line at people telling other people to kill themselves--
Or that you hope they are stabbed to death-- or that they are going to kill you themselves, if you continue to respond.
Third post down: LINK
Ninth post down: LINK
That ^ is something entirely different.
I'm useless as the quote function so I'm just gonna say in reference to the two links....wow.
As far as I'm concerned it's incredibly poor taste and speaks volumes about the person uttering it.
The way she said it isn't threatening in the least. That gemini girl was definitely instigating it as was desperado and canceronthecusp.click to expand
Yet you joined after the thread was deleted, you sure do have some facts.. truth and some not truth... I think we All know who you really are. She was out of line.. so where others, however only one person threatened anyone.
I think I have some stuff saved if you want me to post it.. but this thread isn't about cc, and I really do not want to derail, like you are attempting too. It's about how people should conduct themselves in an appropriate manner whilst on this site. Threatening violence on anyone, joking or otherwise is something to not be taken lightly.
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