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Posted by Scenic
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Take it easy, Scenic


I sounded harsh I suppose but not out of ill feelings towards anyone I've responded to. My opinions on some things are unnecessarily forward some times.

Honestly, most of the logic behind the whole double standard thing lacks reason. In the end, it's just letting society win, not the individual. There's just no logical reason that guys can say 'if I do it it's okay but not for girls' besides using society's view, which is illogical as a reason.



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Posted by Synapse
For Rocky, I hold the same view of guys as girls.

Like I said before though, not everyone who puts out on the 1st date or whatever is incapable of holding a relationship, in my opinion.
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I do too in a sense, but only in regard to the risk of STDs. I'm all for one wanting to experience their sexuality to its fullest, but sometimes when you hear what all a person does, it's like wow, I hope you're being careful and your nether bits aren't all diseased. :/

However, I do gotta say, those who choose to sleep with multiple partners within weeks or months or whatever, ugh. Male or female, that's just nasty. I wouldn't blame the opposite gender (or same, depending on one's preference) for being turned off.

As far as this first date shit, wtf ever. If guys wanna be that fickle, then I'm kicking him to the curb for any penis issues or the fact he willingly took it so quickly on the first date. Why not? Nobody is using much logic here when it comes to the concept.
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Posted by size zero superhero
Posted by rockyroadicecream
How about we twist it around? What about men who put out asap? What about the ones who sleep with women at the drop of a hat? What exactly is thought of those individuals?

Double standards in this area are bullshit.



Pretty much.
Unzipping on the first date would not be an option for these women in question, if not for the countless men that similarly view slapping skin on date #1 as being an ideal outcome, and actively pursuing said goal.
Clearly it comes down to a mutual objective of hopping in the sack right away. Both parties are presumably eager, otherwise this effort wouldn't get off the ground.

Either way, I don't care how far other people are comfortable taking first dates.

Suppose your forefathers & foremothers did just that? For all we know, some of our grand/parents' relationships began with spontaneous hookups/flings and they later relied on telling alternate truths about how they met, out of fear that their offspring would act similarly reckless on 1st dates.
Hell, some of y'all wouldn't exist if your forefathers weren't shameless horndogs back in the day. LMAO.




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Look at Thomas Jefferson.
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
Posted by size zero superhero
Posted by rockyroadicecream
How about we twist it around? What about men who put out asap? What about the ones who sleep with women at the drop of a hat? What exactly is thought of those individuals?

Double standards in this area are bullshit.



Pretty much.
Unzipping on the first date would not be an option for these women in question, if not for the countless men that similarly view slapping skin on date #1 as being an ideal outcome, and actively pursuing said goal.
Clearly it comes down to a mutual objective of hopping in the sack right away. Both parties are presumably eager, otherwise this effort wouldn't get off the ground.

Either way, I don't care how far other people are comfortable taking first dates.

Suppose your forefathers & foremothers did just that? For all we know, some of our grand/parents' relationships began with spontaneous hookups/flings and they later relied on telling alternate truths about how they met, out of fear that their offspring would act similarly reckless on 1st dates.
Hell, some of y'all wouldn't exist if your forefathers weren't shameless horndogs back in the day. LMAO.






Look at Thomas Jefferson.
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yeah I dont remember him going on any dates with his slaves.



nope, none
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
How about we twist it around? What about men who put out asap? What about the ones who sleep with women at the drop of a hat? What exactly is thought of those individuals?

Double standards in this area are bullshit.



I agree.


For me, I don't understand why people try to box sexuality. It's so more complex than that. We don't just have sex to populate and I know people well argue that, well if we did we would be animals. We aren't. He have developed brains, feelings and emotions for a reason.
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Posted by krysrenee7
A woman losing a guy's respect b/c she gave it up too soon is outdated thinking?!

HA! Tell that to the 1,000 girls in the world who didn't get a call back this morning!



For someone who claims to be oh so educated, you sure as hell don't know much about society and why it is the way it is.

Yes honey bunny. It's outdated thinking. Remember, a majority of our population is still very male oriented and biased.

But you knew that, right? Right?
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It would have been nice for this question to specify whether the man answering this question also had sex on the first date or if they would be judging someone they don't know.

I don't see how men can claim that 'she's no good' when they also had sex on the first date. Well in that opinion, neither of you are good! So all those men who talk about a girl giving it up on the first date being sluts and not good women...well I hope they themselves don't have sex on the first date!



Oh, it's a double standard we're just going to have to deal with.


Is that your opinion on this? This is a typical response from a women who has been socialized to be passive. Nothing will change if you just 'deal' with everything you think you can't change. To hell if I'm going to deal with it. I'm going to call every man out for his bs and make him argue his point in a way that makes him prove it's fairness. If he can't, then he's just another sexist man the changing world will soon slim out.
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Not necessarily in all cases.

I am not saying all girls should be virgins until they get married, but at the same time, if a chick has had sex with 50 guys, it's NOT like a decent man with some self-respect and dignity is going to give her a 5,000 dollar engagement ring and 300,000 dollar house to live in.



damn right, a girl who knows how to handle a dick needs a $ 1,000,000 ring. $ 5k is for novices.


Seriously speaking, 50 guys 100 who cares. If he cant handle it, thats his insecurity speaking. We all are worth something to someone.

how can you determine another persons worth to someone else?
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preach!! and all becuz of sex....how can you determine someones worth in life just based off their sexual preferences?
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I see the sluts have taken over the thread. Carry on sperm dumpsters.



how can you make a list of people you blocked for name calling and disrespect and then turn around and do the same shit? and unwarrented name calling at that....whats that about CC

your being a hypocrite big time
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Lol I know the answer to that question!

It's b/c some people who have messy lives get off on coming to these threads anonymously as internet bullies. They themselves don't have a constructive argument or advice to bring to the table so instead they just go attacking others who actually came to this thread to debate about the TOPIC, & not the anonymous people openly sharing their viewpoint on the topic!

Her name is CLUELESS Cancer. That speaks volumes. And the threads she creates where she's admitting that there's a lot of turmoil in her life speak volumes too. So take it with a grain of salt.
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A woman losing a guy's respect b/c she gave it up too soon is outdated thinking?!

HA! Tell that to the 1,000 girls in the world who didn't get a call back this morning!



For someone who claims to be oh so educated, you sure as hell don't know much about society and why it is the way it is.

Yes honey bunny. It's outdated thinking. Remember, a majority of our population is still very male oriented and biased.

But you knew that, right? Right?
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You're right. The world is only as YOU see it. PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT: Unless RockyRoad has seen it, it does not exist! There isn't 1 guy in this whole world who would be turned off by a woman throwing her panties at him on the 1st date. There's not 1 girl in the world crying at home right now b/c some guy she gave the cookie up to didn't call her back! Apparently you conveniently "skipped over" the responses from the guys on THIS very thread who said they aren't too fond of women who are willing to give it up on the 1st night. There goes that damn perfect-timing blindness again smh lol

See how silly that sounds? lol

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I see the sluts have taken over the thread. Carry on sperm dumpsters.



how can you make a list of people you blocked for name calling and disrespect and then turn around and do the same shit? and unwarrented name calling at that....whats that about CC

your being a hypocrite big time



Ya'll can block me if you're offended. I stick to my statement! I'm not trying to understand or have a conversation about it.

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I believe the correct term is Cum Dumpsters.
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Posted by soultalk
I think the point is not how soon or how late you give it up. The point is what works for you. For some, no most women, it is all about connection. And connection takes time to build. With time if you feel close to the person then it is your choice what you do with it. It is always your own choice.



+1

And if a man feels this exact way, it's understandable that he'd be turned off by a woman who wanted to sleep with him the 1st night, no different than some women are offended when a man pushes up on her too soon.

1 of my best male friends always says that he's leery of women who want to sleep with him on the 1st night b/c he always wonders if they "do this" with every other guy. He's a man so I'm sure the thought of sexing her crossed his mind lol but thinking it is different than doing it

If some women feel turned off when a man tries to have sex with her on the 1st date & feel justified in being turned off by that, then it's just as understandable/justifiable for a man to be turned off too. Some men give in to the temptation, some don't.
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I doubt all of them wanted a call back, though.



touch?



If the sex was good, I would call back, but make it clear my intentions. If it wasn't I wouldn't want anyone calling me. I don't care who calls who first. Only people with time to to repress their desires would wait for a call back.

"Poor is the man whose pleasures depend on the permission of another." ~ Madonna
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love that quote!
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I see the sluts have taken over the thread. Carry on sperm dumpsters.



how can you make a list of people you blocked for name calling and disrespect and then turn around and do the same shit? and unwarrented name calling at that....whats that about CC

your being a hypocrite big time



Ya'll can block me if you're offended. I stick to my statement! I'm not trying to understand or have a conversation about it.

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Your full of shit. You have no answer there is no answer for what I asked besides you being a hypocrite. You stand by calling people whores and cum dumpsters? Seriously?

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Funny thing is I googled "Women who sleep with men on the 1st date" & it brought me to several youtube videos where men are talking about how they feel. Of course there was the usual "I wouldn't care" type guys. But like I figured, a lot of men were saying they'd be leery or not want to date her seriously if she gave it up too soon

You can watch the videos yourself.

I know, I know, those few guys on those videos don't represent alllll men, but my point was that clearly there ARE still some guys who would be completely turned off and/or even treat a girl differently if she gave it up! And whichever girl slept with those particular guys on the 1st date probably didn't get a call back like she wanted him to. Oops!
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This thread is about what men think, not how women want them to think.


+1

Then again, there is probably an abundance of women on here. And women are usually extremely judgemental about other women.
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Women are judgmental period because we are taught to have a moral code.
They can be judgmental but what does that have to do with what is in the hearts and minds of men? ๐Ÿ™‚


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This thread is about what men think, not how women want them to think.




Agreed. But if you've been told a man's perspective on this topic FROM a man, I don't think I'd need to suddenly grow a penis to share his perspective.



You are a woman, not a man.
Difference.



Thank you, someone who gets it.

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You are welcome. I love martini's. Make mine an apple please. ๐Ÿ˜‰
These types of threads tend to frustrate me because when guys are honest, women freak out!
Then guys stop sharing.
I find it better to lurk on men's forums when this type of question comes up.
It get's really harsh, this is light weight.
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Posted by ScorpioFish
As much as I appreciate the ladies here who landed a good husband after sex on the first date, I must say that you are the exception and not the rule.

It's a delicate thing to do on the first date, so unless you are certain he is husband quality, I would tread lightly if I were you ladies.

Good men are about as common as Leprechauns are these days.



they are it seems.

There's still plenty out there, but many of them are taken, or sadly for the heterosexual women, gay. But at least the great gay men are with good partners too.

or the good men are still too young (babies) so be careful out there for the women predators. Or you'll end up like Rod Stewart, singing Maggie May songs:

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This thread is about what men think, not how women want them to think.




Agreed. But if you've been told a man's perspective on this topic FROM a man, I don't think I'd need to suddenly grow a penis to share his perspective.
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And early on, several of the men stated they'd only consider a girl who gave it up on the first date as a future friend with benefits. Of course there are some that said they didn't care, but REALLYโ€” I bet they subconsciously form more of an opinion that they admit.
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Hey I think it's pretty fair that women waited until guys had their say. You think on a forum you're really gunna be able to regulate who replies? I think this thread turned out about as fair as it could in that respect. And guy or girl, if one gender is talking about the other, then that other side is going to want to pitch in or defend. It's not just a girl thing.



That is true. They held off in the beginning and let the men speak. I do appreciate that. ๐Ÿ™‚
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Posted by ScorpioFish
As much as I appreciate the ladies here who landed a good husband after sex on the first date, I must say that you are the exception and not the rule.

It's a delicate thing to do on the first date, so unless you are certain he is husband quality, I would tread lightly if I were you ladies.

Good men are about as common as Leprechauns are these days.



+1

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Posted by truecap
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As much as I appreciate the ladies here who landed a good husband after sex on the first date, I must say that you are the exception and not the rule.

It's a delicate thing to do on the first date, so unless you are certain he is husband quality, I would tread lightly if I were you ladies.

Good men are about as common as Leprechauns are these days.



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+1000!!!

So many women are trying to be the exception to the rules! They want to be that rare 1% ! Cool. But unfortunately everybody can't be that 1%

And never ask the guy you're on the 1st date with if he'd feel differently about you if you gave it up lol

And some women may never know (b/c the guy didn't/won't tell them) that he never called back or wanted to be with her b/c he got the cookie too soon. Some women convince themselves that there must be some other grand reason for why the guy up & disappeared.
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Posted by truecap
For the guys only: What do you think of girls who have sex on the first date?

Be honest, please. I'm asking this seriously.

Please state your sun, mars and venus as well as your age. I want to see if there are any correlations to your answers.



I'd be taken aback to be honest.

Probably not what I'm looking for in a girl, because my values are rather conservative when it comes to sex. Also I worry about STDs and all that stuff, y'know? But on the other hand I'd be intrigued as to why she'd want to have sex so quickly and maybe take it from there.

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