krysrenee7
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it's pretty high... it's just being masked a lot more than ever before.
interested to see how long before this thread blows up... You are brave for even asking this krysrenee7 😉
interested to see how long before this thread blows up... You are brave for even asking this krysrenee7 😉
By nature, most humans are going to love and by biased towards their own. As for racism I'd say it's about a 7.
6 or 7, but I do agree that it is much more hidden or masked now. It is not accepted as much,so i think people keep their racist views to themselves more so except when in the company of others that they know share the same views.
I'd say it's at about a 7 or 8. Def. agree that it's just masked a lot more
I think interracial dating being more acceptable & desired has really helped. Maybe not liked by the families of those in the relationship lol but nonetheless at least those couples represent 2 more individuals who finally put the race thing to bed
I think interracial dating being more acceptable & desired has really helped. Maybe not liked by the families of those in the relationship lol but nonetheless at least those couples represent 2 more individuals who finally put the race thing to bed
Posted by fishinamaize
Honestly I'd say it's probably LOWER than what most people imagine. At least TRUE racism (i.e. the belief of racial superiority/segregation/etc.)
I'd say the majority of people in the world have racist TENDENCIES and/or views, and I DON'T think its innate, but I think that its a natural development unless a person is surrounded by people of all cultural and racial backgrounds. I think xenophobia is a naturally developed trait, and it makes sense from an evolutionary view as well.
That being said...
When I moved to a predominantly white high school, first day of school I had more than one teacher after asking me if I spoke English (a valid question) ask me if I knew how to READ. Totally racist notion on their end. But that didn't make them racists. I think there are fewer true, old-school racists. Ex. I've seen a lot of people make assumptions based on race (racists tendencies) yet they have utter contempt for the KKK, and would never dream of lynching anyone.
This might piss people off, but the entire Zimmerman case/media shit storm was a blatant example of the racist views a great many people have. But I don't think that's on the same level as someone actively attempting for racial superiority.
As a mixed race individual, race is often an issue that people bring up when they first meet me, so I've seen a lot of people's ignorance towards such matters. BUT I've only ever had to deal with maybe a handful of TRUE racists.
I got in a fight with a neo-nazi type mofo once, cause I looked in his direction and he wasn't letting me get away with that shit lmao. But for nearly every person I ever met who referred to me as a spick, nigger, chink, or cracker (MANY people) there's a person who pretty much forgot about my race once they got to know me. No true racists would take the time to get to know me.
Then again, I DO enjoy the benefits of white-guilt. Racism is rampant!
Damn-- I like your candor. lol
🙂
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I'm not helping you write your book.
I'm not helping you write your book.
Also, I think people confuse race and culture. They're tied together in many instances, and I hear more bitching and complaining about cultural differences than actual race.
oh if only people could "see" into people's souls. sigh. but it's one of the many challenges for many people on their short time on earth.
Posted by geminicandIe
We are all racists on some level. Or ethnocentric. It doesn't mean it's bad. It depends what you use it for.
That's not true for me at all. I don't & never have had a racist bone in my body
Growing up, I made a vow to never be like those who were racist towards me. How silly is it to rally for equality & abolishing ignorance/stereotyping when you face racism, but then go & pull the same ignorant speech/thoughts towards someone else?
Not once have I ever thought any race was more inferior or superior than the other. I am aware of all the stereotypes & typical racist rants, but I've never joined in on one. Never.
Not a racist bone in my body. Racism is silly, ignorant & baseless. For example, there are over 44+ million African Americans in the United States. Anyone who assumes that we're ALL the same all b/c of some actions/rumors about a few is the highest form of ignorant possible.
Not once have I ever saw a black man commit a crime & think, "Ugh black men." lol No amount of brainwashing or media will convince me that the actions of a few represent the entire race as a whole.
I can't say that "all" black/white/hispanic, etc. are most likely *blank* unless I've tried them all. And no person on earth has ever met every single person on earth, hence the reason racism (especially towards your own race) is baseless & ignorant. Always has been, always will be
Posted by DonAmanMarat
If you tellin you ain't racist, you a fuckin liar! You won't do anything racist in physical or verbal manner, but racist thoughts go through your mind ALL the time! Next time you see a black dude, TRY not to tense up a lil, its an automatic reaction for ANYONE waitin at the subway.
Exactly!
Posted by fishinamaizePosted by DonAmanMarat
If you tellin you ain't racist, you a fuckin liar! You won't do anything racist in physical or verbal manner, but racist thoughts go through your mind ALL the time! Next time you see a black dude, TRY not to tense up a lil, its an automatic reaction for ANYONE waitin at the subway.
I honestly don't believe that most people would tense if they were waitin at the subway and a black man dressed like this: showed up. I do think most people would tense if they saw a white dude dress like one of these dudes: walk up.click to expand
I was just thinking about that..
I would naturally be tense if I am passing thru a crime infested neighborhood with gangsters and thugs. I would be scared regardless of what race lives in those neighborhoods. Nothing to do with race
Posted by DonAmanMarat
If you tellin you ain't racist, you a fuckin liar! You won't do anything racist in physical or verbal manner, but racist thoughts go through your mind ALL the time! Next time you see a black dude, TRY not to tense up a lil, its an automatic reaction for ANYONE waitin at the subway.
No, that is how YOU think. Not me.
Don't speak for me.
I'm aware that many people have racism in their bones to some extent, but NOT all people. Assuming that "all people" believe/think/are the same way to some extent is the exact same flawed way of thinking that racist people use in the 1st place.
By the way, I am black. Black men don't scare me or intimidate me. The only time I'll be tense near anybody (regardless of race) is when they give me a reason to be tense. I watch their demeanor & allow my gut and instinct to dictate how I feel in the presence of another person, NOT their skin color.
And trust me, I've felt that "suspicious" feeling with ALL races near a subway. Unlike you, I don't use convenient memory & only remember when I felt suspicious around a black person, while leaving out that I've had that same feeling towards many people of ALL races, not just 1 or 2.
Just b/c it's impossible for you to break out of narrow-minded thinking does not mean that the same is true for everybody else. There's a lot of interracial mix in my family & I love it. Not to mention, I am mixed with a few things myself.
I was raised not to consider skin color or skin tone when making decisions about who I love or who I should be afraid of.
Racist people don't realize that there's always gonna be someone who comes along & proves their "stereotype" wrong. I am a perfect example. I hear the stereotype all the time that black women are loud, uneducated, on welfare & can't keep a man. Hmmm that's odd. I'm not loud, I've got 2 degrees (probably more education than the person stereotyping me), & I've been married for a long time. For that person to see me & yet still continue to have that stereotype even though millions of us prove that it's inaccurate means shows me that they're not only ignorant, but also have alzheimers
Posted by krysrenee7Posted by DonAmanMarat
If you tellin you ain't racist, you a fuckin liar! You won't do anything racist in physical or verbal manner, but racist thoughts go through your mind ALL the time! Next time you see a black dude, TRY not to tense up a lil, its an automatic reaction for ANYONE waitin at the subway.
No, that is how YOU think. Not me.
Don't speak for me.
I'm aware that many people have racism in their bones to some extent, but NOT all people. Assuming that "all people" believe/think/are the same way to some extent is the exact same flawed way of thinking that racist people use in the 1st place.
By the way, I am black. Black men don't scare me or intimidate me. The only time I'll be tense near anybody (regardless of race) is when they give me a reason to be tense. I watch their demeanor & allow my gut and instinct to dictate how I feel in the presence of another person, NOT their skin color.
And trust me, I've felt that "suspicious" feeling with ALL races near a subway. Unlike you, I don't use convenient memory & only remember when I felt suspicious around a black person, while leaving out that I've had that same feeling towards many people of ALL races, not just 1 or 2.
Just b/c it's impossible for you to break out of narrow-minded thinking does not mean that the same is true for everybody else. There's a lot of interracial mix in my family & I love it. Not to mention, I am mixed with a few things myself.
I was raised not to consider skin color or skin tone when making decisions about who I love or who I should be afraid of.
Racist people don't realize that there's always gonna be someone who comes along & proves their "stereotype" wrong. I am a perfect example. I hear the stereotype all the time that black women are loud, uneducated, on welfare & can't keep a man. Hmmm that's odd. I'm not loud, I've got 2 degrees (probably more education than the person stereotyping me), & I've been married for a long time. For that person to see me & yet still continue to have that stereotype even though millions of us prove that it's inaccurate means shows me that they're not only ignorant, but also have alzheimers
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Interesting.
Posted by geminicandIe
I experienced racism from all races on my own skin.
My conclusion is, most people (if not all), are racist to some degree.
First off, racism is a system. Second off, of course most people are bigots.
ALL races commit crimes
ALL races have folks that are both educated & uneducated
ALL races say/do ignorant things
ALL races have folks that are both successful & not successful
ALL races have folks that make babies & don't take care of them
ALL races have have folks who have embarrassed themselves in some way via reality tv or via media
ALL races have folks that are both narrow-minded & open-minded
ALL races have folks that make you feel tense when you're standing next to them
ALL races have folks who can't keep a man/woman and can keep a man/woman
ALL races have people who constantly prove YOUR stereotypes wrong every single day.
^^^^^ Those are the facts!
If 5 black people pissed you off or scared you, fine, but be mad at THOSE particular 5 black people, NOT all 44 million of us. It's no different with gender. Just because 5 guys/girls F'd you over doesn't mean that all the other BILLIONS of men/women are the same or would do you the same way
Given that, there is no logical or rational excuse for being racist. There is also no logical or rational excuse for using "ALL" in your vocabulary towards a specific race unless you can prove that your "ALL" theory is correct. Impossible task.
ALL races have folks that are both educated & uneducated
ALL races say/do ignorant things
ALL races have folks that are both successful & not successful
ALL races have folks that make babies & don't take care of them
ALL races have have folks who have embarrassed themselves in some way via reality tv or via media
ALL races have folks that are both narrow-minded & open-minded
ALL races have folks that make you feel tense when you're standing next to them
ALL races have folks who can't keep a man/woman and can keep a man/woman
ALL races have people who constantly prove YOUR stereotypes wrong every single day.
^^^^^ Those are the facts!
If 5 black people pissed you off or scared you, fine, but be mad at THOSE particular 5 black people, NOT all 44 million of us. It's no different with gender. Just because 5 guys/girls F'd you over doesn't mean that all the other BILLIONS of men/women are the same or would do you the same way
Given that, there is no logical or rational excuse for being racist. There is also no logical or rational excuse for using "ALL" in your vocabulary towards a specific race unless you can prove that your "ALL" theory is correct. Impossible task.
Everyone is racist. Harvard created a test to show such a thing
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Study?tid=-1<BR>
That link will take you to a test that will determine how racist you are. They have a result for 0% , I believe, but I would be surprised if anyone got that score.
I'd give racism today a 5 on the scale.
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Study?tid=-1<BR>
That link will take you to a test that will determine how racist you are. They have a result for 0% , I believe, but I would be surprised if anyone got that score.
I'd give racism today a 5 on the scale.
Posted by Scenic
Everyone is racist. Harvard created a test to show such a thing
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Study?tid=-1<BR>
That link will take you to a test that will determine how racist you are. They have a result for 0% , I believe, but I would be surprised if anyone got that score.
I'd give racism today a 5 on the scale.
Note the description, however: This IAT requires the ability to distinguish faces of European and African origin. It indicates that most Americans have an automatic preference for white over black.
If you're not American, this test does not say the expected or statistically likely result you will obtain
Posted by geminicandIe
You are getting defensive and angry.
I said my opinions, which again, are just my own.
You keep on thinking whatever you want.
Good night.
Who?
Posted by ScenicPosted by Scenic
Everyone is racist. Harvard created a test to show such a thing
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Study?tid=-1<BR>
That link will take you to a test that will determine how racist you are. They have a result for 0% , I believe, but I would be surprised if anyone got that score.
I'd give racism today a 5 on the scale.
Note the description, however: This IAT requires the ability to distinguish faces of European and African origin. It indicates that most Americans have an automatic preference for white over black.
If you're not American, this test does not say the expected or statistically likely result you will obtainclick to expand
Thank you for stating the obvious.
Posted by geminicandIe
I experienced racism from all races on my own skin.
My conclusion is, most people (if not all), are racist to some degree.
I've experienced racism from ALL races. I've also experienced LOVE, good vibes & good memories from ALL races too. This keeps me from stereotyping. I'm not just saying that I don't have a racist bone in my body b/c it sounds good or to make myself seem like an angel. I'm dead serious. Plus, I don't let people speak for me or tell me that I'm included in the "all," especially if I'm really not.
The 1 thing racist people have in common is they have this self-righteous mentality that "ALL" of a specific race or people period are the same way, not b/c there's any evidence of the such, but b/c they have moments when they feel like being ignorant. They can't think outside of their own thinking.
I don't believe that people are "ALL" of anything. There's a difference b/w "most" & "all." And even then, a person can't say that "most" people are anything unless they've got facts/statistics to back it up. In a world full of billions of people, I am not arrogant enough to believe that MY little experiences are the same experiences for everybody. I'm just 1 person in a pond of a billion fish. I wish others were humble enough to understand that too.
I understand the concept that my perception of someone/someone may not even be accurate or true of others in the like. Perception & reality can be and are def. 2 different things. Again, this reminds me not to stereotype
The same people saying it's impossible for someone to not be racist to some degree are using the same 1-sided thinking racist people use when they conclude that ALL people of a specific race must be a certain way. They just can't possibly imagine things being any other way than what they themselves are/believe. I'm hoping people notice the similarities in that specific way of thinking.
Posted by krysrenee7
ALL races commit crimes
ALL races have folks that are both educated & uneducated
ALL races say/do ignorant things
ALL races have folks that are both successful & not successful
ALL races have folks that make babies & don't take care of them
ALL races have have folks who have embarrassed themselves in some way via reality tv or via media
ALL races have folks that are both narrow-minded & open-minded
ALL races have folks that make you feel tense when you're standing next to them
ALL races have folks who can't keep a man/woman and can keep a man/woman
ALL races have people who constantly prove YOUR stereotypes wrong every single day.
^^^^^ Those are the facts!
If 5 black people pissed you off or scared you, fine, but be mad at THOSE particular 5 black people, NOT all 44 million of us. It's no different with gender. Just because 5 guys/girls F'd you over doesn't mean that all the other BILLIONS of men/women are the same or would do you the same way
Given that, there is no logical or rational excuse for being racist. There is also no logical or rational excuse for using "ALL" in your vocabulary towards a specific race unless you can prove that your "ALL" theory is correct. Impossible task.
oh! This was all a way to build you a soap box huh? Well fuck you and what you think, nobody asked you!
Posted by aime7Posted by ScenicPosted by Scenic
Everyone is racist. Harvard created a test to show such a thing
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Study?tid=-1<BR>
That link will take you to a test that will determine how racist you are. They have a result for 0% , I believe, but I would be surprised if anyone got that score.
I'd give racism today a 5 on the scale.
Note the description, however: This IAT requires the ability to distinguish faces of European and African origin. It indicates that most Americans have an automatic preference for white over black.
If you're not American, this test does not say the expected or statistically likely result you will obtain
Thank you for stating the obvious.click to expand
: ) Your kindness makes me warm on the inside
Posted by iwin32
It depends on the area. For example, if you take a look at Northern (East) and Western states, then you'll see less and less racism, but on the other hand, the South, also known as the Bible Belt, then, you'll see more racism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc.
in the North it is more covert.
Posted by ScenicPosted by aime7Posted by ScenicPosted by Scenic
Everyone is racist. Harvard created a test to show such a thing
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Study?tid=-1<BR>
That link will take you to a test that will determine how racist you are. They have a result for 0% , I believe, but I would be surprised if anyone got that score.
I'd give racism today a 5 on the scale.
Note the description, however: This IAT requires the ability to distinguish faces of European and African origin. It indicates that most Americans have an automatic preference for white over black.
If you're not American, this test does not say the expected or statistically likely result you will obtain
Thank you for stating the obvious.
: ) Your kindness makes me warm on the insideclick to expand
Sweet sarcasm.
@Gemini: I tend to get defensive when someone speaks for me, especially regarding something that I consider highly offensive. If you haven't noticed, racism has always been a tense subject. I think it's fair to say that you should've expected that in a thread like this.
I'm not angry, nor do I have any personal beef with you as a person. I responded to only some of the things you said, which is why I quoted you sometimes. For the most part, my defensiveness was more towards the others who are being highly ignorant & spewing their racism on this thread. That level of defensiveness wasn't for you.
The only thing I disagree with you about is when you said that it's impossible for anybody in this world to not be racist to some extent. I was pointing out that although there may not be a lot of people like me, I just so happen to be the 1 person who actually ISN'T racist to any degree at all, thus I felt it was fair for me to show you how even your own assumptions of "all" people can be wrong.
Relax.
I'm not angry, nor do I have any personal beef with you as a person. I responded to only some of the things you said, which is why I quoted you sometimes. For the most part, my defensiveness was more towards the others who are being highly ignorant & spewing their racism on this thread. That level of defensiveness wasn't for you.
The only thing I disagree with you about is when you said that it's impossible for anybody in this world to not be racist to some extent. I was pointing out that although there may not be a lot of people like me, I just so happen to be the 1 person who actually ISN'T racist to any degree at all, thus I felt it was fair for me to show you how even your own assumptions of "all" people can be wrong.
Relax.
Posted by aime7Posted by ScenicPosted by aime7Posted by ScenicPosted by Scenic
Everyone is racist. Harvard created a test to show such a thing
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Study?tid=-1<BR>
That link will take you to a test that will determine how racist you are. They have a result for 0% , I believe, but I would be surprised if anyone got that score.
I'd give racism today a 5 on the scale.
Note the description, however: This IAT requires the ability to distinguish faces of European and African origin. It indicates that most Americans have an automatic preference for white over black.
If you're not American, this test does not say the expected or statistically likely result you will obtain
Thank you for stating the obvious.
: ) Your kindness makes me warm on the inside
Sweet sarcasm.click to expand
Hmm, you or I? ; )
Posted by krysrenee7Posted by geminicandIe
I experienced racism from all races on my own skin.
My conclusion is, most people (if not all), are racist to some degree.
I've experienced racism from ALL races. I've also experienced LOVE, good vibes & good memories from ALL races too. This keeps me from stereotyping. I'm not just saying that I don't have a racist bone in my body b/c it sounds good or to make myself seem like an angel. I'm dead serious. Plus, I don't let people speak for me or tell me that I'm included in the "all," especially if I'm really not.
The 1 thing racist people have in common is they have this self-righteous mentality that "ALL" of a specific race or people period are the same way, not b/c there's any evidence of the such, but b/c they have moments when they feel like being ignorant. They can't think outside of their own thinking.
I don't believe that people are "ALL" of anything. There's a difference b/w "most" & "all." And even then, a person can't say that "most" people are anything unless they've got facts/statistics to back it up. In a world full of billions of people, I am not arrogant enough to believe that MY little experiences are the same experiences for everybody. I'm just 1 person in a pond of a billion fish. I wish others were humble enough to understand that too.
I understand the concept that my perception of someone/someone may not even be accurate or true of others in the like. Perception & reality can be and are def. 2 different things. Again, this reminds me not to stereotype
The same people saying it's impossible for someone to not be racist to some degree are using the same 1-sided thinking racist people use when they conclude that ALL people of a specific race must be a certain way. They just can't possibly imagine things being any other way than what they themselves are/believe. I'm hoping people notice the similarities in that specific way of thinking.click to expand
Do you honestly think we are all one big happy human race?
Posted by AstrobynPosted by krysrenee7
ALL races commit crimes
ALL races have folks that are both educated & uneducated
ALL races say/do ignorant things
ALL races have folks that are both successful & not successful
ALL races have folks that make babies & don't take care of them
ALL races have have folks who have embarrassed themselves in some way via reality tv or via media
ALL races have folks that are both narrow-minded & open-minded
ALL races have folks that make you feel tense when you're standing next to them
ALL races have folks who can't keep a man/woman and can keep a man/woman
ALL races have people who constantly prove YOUR stereotypes wrong every single day.
^^^^^ Those are the facts!
If 5 black people pissed you off or scared you, fine, but be mad at THOSE particular 5 black people, NOT all 44 million of us. It's no different with gender. Just because 5 guys/girls F'd you over doesn't mean that all the other BILLIONS of men/women are the same or would do you the same way
Given that, there is no logical or rational excuse for being racist. There is also no logical or rational excuse for using "ALL" in your vocabulary towards a specific race unless you can prove that your "ALL" theory is correct. Impossible task.
oh! This was all a way to build you a soap box huh? Well fuck you and what you think, nobody asked you!click to expand
That's an interesting response considering this is MY thread. Idiot
Posted by ScenicPosted by aime7Posted by ScenicPosted by aime7Posted by ScenicPosted by Scenic
Everyone is racist. Harvard created a test to show such a thing
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Study?tid=-1<BR>
That link will take you to a test that will determine how racist you are. They have a result for 0% , I believe, but I would be surprised if anyone got that score.
I'd give racism today a 5 on the scale.
Note the description, however: This IAT requires the ability to distinguish faces of European and African origin. It indicates that most Americans have an automatic preference for white over black.
If you're not American, this test does not say the expected or statistically likely result you will obtain
Thank you for stating the obvious.
: ) Your kindness makes me warm on the inside
Sweet sarcasm.
Hmm, you or I? ; )click to expand
Me. Of course I'm talking about you. Silly goofball.
@Aime:
No lol. I stated that my opinion on the prevalence of racism in this country was about a 7.
I am highly aware that racism still exist. My only argument went out to the people who assumed that just b/c they can't rid themselves of the few racist bones in their body doesn't mean that me or others didn't. THAT was my point.
I don't let people speak for me & then continue trying to put me in a box with everybody else even though I've said I didn't belong in that box. Not only do I know allow people to put me in a racial box, but I don't allow them to tell me how I think or what I believe in either. THAT was all.
No lol. I stated that my opinion on the prevalence of racism in this country was about a 7.
I am highly aware that racism still exist. My only argument went out to the people who assumed that just b/c they can't rid themselves of the few racist bones in their body doesn't mean that me or others didn't. THAT was my point.
I don't let people speak for me & then continue trying to put me in a box with everybody else even though I've said I didn't belong in that box. Not only do I know allow people to put me in a racial box, but I don't allow them to tell me how I think or what I believe in either. THAT was all.
Posted by aime7
Me. Of course I'm talking about you. Silly goofball.
Oh, but it appears you are as good or even better at sarcasm than I. Is it really my own sarcasm you should be mentioning?
Posted by krysrenee7
@Aime:
No lol. I stated that my opinion on the prevalence of racism in this country was about a 7.
I am highly aware that racism still exist. My only argument went out to the people who assumed that just b/c they can't rid themselves of the few racist bones in their body doesn't mean that me or others didn't. THAT was my point.
I don't let people speak for me & then continue trying to put me in a box with everybody else even though I've said I didn't belong in that box. Not only do I know allow people to put me in a racial box, but I don't allow them to tell me how I think or what I believe in either. THAT was all.
If you think things will change, then you are too naive.
Posted by ScenicPosted by aime7
Me. Of course I'm talking about you. Silly goofball.
Oh, but it appears you are as good or even better at sarcasm than I. Is it really my own sarcasm you should be mentioning?click to expand
Snickerdoodle.
Posted by krysrenee7
ALL races commit crimes
ALL races have folks that are both educated & uneducated
ALL races say/do ignorant things
ALL races have folks that are both successful & not successful
ALL races have folks that make babies & don't take care of them
ALL races have have folks who have embarrassed themselves in some way via reality tv or via media
ALL races have folks that are both narrow-minded & open-minded
ALL races have folks that make you feel tense when you're standing next to them
ALL races have folks who can't keep a man/woman and can keep a man/woman
ALL races have people who constantly prove YOUR stereotypes wrong every single day.
^^^^^ Those are the facts!
If 5 black people pissed you off or scared you, fine, but be mad at THOSE particular 5 black people, NOT all 44 million of us. It's no different with gender. Just because 5 guys/girls F'd you over doesn't mean that all the other BILLIONS of men/women are the same or would do you the same way
Given that, there is no logical or rational excuse for being racist. There is also no logical or rational excuse for using "ALL" in your vocabulary towards a specific race unless you can prove that your "ALL" theory is correct. Impossible task.
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Posted by krysrenee7Posted by Astrobyn
oh! This was all a way to build you a soap box huh? Well fuck you and what you think, nobody asked you!
That's an interesting response considering this is MY thread. Idiotclick to expand
You asked this forum to discuss, and the second it escalated, you jumped in, shoving your "facts" (again, with NO sources) down everyone's throats as if it's the gospel truth. Just sayin'.
Carry on with your "discussion."
Also,
...have you ever worked in a restaurant as a server?
Posted by rockyroadicecreamPosted by krysrenee7
ALL races commit crimes
ALL races have folks that are both educated & uneducated
ALL races say/do ignorant things
ALL races have folks that are both successful & not successful
ALL races have folks that make babies & don't take care of them
ALL races have have folks who have embarrassed themselves in some way via reality tv or via media
ALL races have folks that are both narrow-minded & open-minded
ALL races have folks that make you feel tense when you're standing next to them
ALL races have folks who can't keep a man/woman and can keep a man/woman
ALL races have people who constantly prove YOUR stereotypes wrong every single day.
^^^^^ Those are the facts!
If 5 black people pissed you off or scared you, fine, but be mad at THOSE particular 5 black people, NOT all 44 million of us. It's no different with gender. Just because 5 guys/girls F'd you over doesn't mean that all the other BILLIONS of men/women are the same or would do you the same way
Given that, there is no logical or rational excuse for being racist. There is also no logical or rational excuse for using "ALL" in your vocabulary towards a specific race unless you can prove that your "ALL" theory is correct. Impossible task.
——
Posted by krysrenee7Posted by Astrobyn
oh! This was all a way to build you a soap box huh? Well fuck you and what you think, nobody asked you!
That's an interesting response considering this is MY thread. Idiot
You asked this forum to discuss, and the second it escalated, you jumped in, shoving your "facts" (again, with NO sources) down everyone's throats as if it's the gospel truth. Just sayin'.
Carry on with your "discussion."
Also,
...have you ever worked in a restaurant as a server?click to expand
My point has been proven.
Posted by krysrenee7Posted by AstrobynPosted by krysrenee7
oh! This was all a way to build you a soap box huh? Well fuck you and what you think, nobody asked you!
That's an interesting response considering this is MY thread. Idiotclick to expand
Oh shit, did i just log into krysrenee7net.com? FUCK NO!
Fuckin' "MY thread" you people are funny. Facts just don't support that statement. So who's the idiot? Not I.
Posted by LilyTreePosted by Scenic
Everyone is racist. Harvard created a test to show such a thing
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Study?tid=-1<BR>
That link will take you to a test that will determine how racist you are. They have a result for 0% , I believe, but I would be surprised if anyone got that score.
I'd give racism today a 5 on the scale.
I took the test and the result said: "Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for European American children compared to African American children."
It makes me wonder: in the media, we are far more exposed to white people than blacks. In ads and billboards, white kids and adults are most frequently used, in the news, white anchors are hired, in entertainment, in mainstream TV shows are dominated by white actors, and so on and so forth. Perhaps this played a role with my results. I wonder if the same would apply to gender bias? I wonder if my results would show a slight bias towards men.click to expand
Yet that LIB person was bitching about how whites don't get to have their own awards.
Posted by LilyTreePosted by Scenic
Everyone is racist. Harvard created a test to show such a thing
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Study?tid=-1<BR>
That link will take you to a test that will determine how racist you are. They have a result for 0% , I believe, but I would be surprised if anyone got that score.
I'd give racism today a 5 on the scale.
I took the test and the result said: "Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for European American children compared to African American children."
It makes me wonder: in the media, we are far more exposed to white people than blacks. In ads and billboards, white kids and adults are most frequently used, in the news, white anchors are hired, in entertainment, in mainstream TV shows are dominated by white actors, and so on and so forth. Perhaps this played a role with my results. I wonder if the same would apply to gender bias? I wonder if my results would show a slight bias towards men.click to expand
That's a good point and I think perhaps it might. I don't think I can form a certain opinion on that as I'm not a racial minority, however. That site also has a test for gender bias and other biases if you were genuinely interested. I may take that one just to test this theory.
I actually remember watching a documentary that was about power. The speaker was a black African woman who talked about how all the books she read as a kid involved white people. She grew up thinking that white people were the standard and beautiful because of this and wanted to be light skinned, herself. It makes me believes that it really does have to do with what you're exposed to.
Blame the fucking British for instilling this mindset all over the world.
"Ew, anything darker than us is below us!" *nose in the air*
"Ew, anything darker than us is below us!" *nose in the air*
Posted by aime7Posted by krysrenee7
@Aime:
No lol. I stated that my opinion on the prevalence of racism in this country was about a 7.
I am highly aware that racism still exist. My only argument went out to the people who assumed that just b/c they can't rid themselves of the few racist bones in their body doesn't mean that me or others didn't. THAT was my point.
I don't let people speak for me & then continue trying to put me in a box with everybody else even though I've said I didn't belong in that box. Not only do I know allow people to put me in a racial box, but I don't allow them to tell me how I think or what I believe in either. THAT was all.
If you think things will change, then you are too naive.click to expand
You don't listen that well lol I believe racism is still very prevalent. I stated that already. TWICE. I don't believe it will change & if it does, it won't be in my lifetime. Given that, where is your "naive" comment coming from??
If you're insinuating that me not judging by race makes me "too naive" then trust me, I'd rather take the title of "naive" than "ignorant." What is the world coming to when someone is actually criticized for NOT discriminating against other people? LOL so so sad
Posted by fishinamaizePosted by LilyTree
It's very much alive and kicking and screaming. Anyone who claims otherwise needs to remove their rose-tinted Ray bans.
Don't think anyone would claim otherwise.
The only question is prevalence. Some people have said that everyone is a racist. That is not true. Only a racist would actually believe that, though. A racist or just an idiot. Seriously, that's some Hitleresque logic. Anyone who argues that needs to educate themselves.
The thing about actual racists, is that they aren't afraid to admit it. That's the reality of it, and if you notice- people who claim that 'EVERYONE IS A RACIST' never seem to have a problem admitting to it. No, they proudly OWN it, and then try and justify it, and then and try and paint EVERYONE else the same color (pun intended) as themselves. That's the thing about bigots, is they think everyone else thinks like them, and if not they try and convince people that they do. That is how brainwashing works- you don't just tell someone a lie, you don't just give reasons why it's true, you tell them that if they look inside, they'll know its true. That they'll have to accept something as fact at some point. Bullshit that only works on weak-minded individuals.
Pretty twisted shit, imo.
A racist is someone who thinks that a persons value is linked to their race. That is it, that is the definition.click to expand
+1,000
Couldn't have said it better. Racist people are so wrapped up in their own inability to abolish their own close-mindedness that they assume all others are battling the same demon. Bigot thinking is when you can't possibly stomach that others don't think/act like you. Are there lots of bigots? Of course. But is everyone a bigot? NO. But hey, it's common for a bigot to sub-consciously refuse to acknowledge that "everybody is/thinks this way" is ONLY limited to THEIR thinking.
Racism is a LEARNED behavior. When it comes to nature vs. nurture, racism is NURTURE. And there is no statistical evidence or cognitive psychological conclusion to conclude otherwise.
Children are NOT born racist or prejudice
Everybody is not victim to racial brainwashing, just like everybody isn't victim to religious brainwashing. There is no such thing as "everybody is..." when it comes to NURTURE. Even when it comes to "nature"...even then some people "lack" or "don't have the desire for" something they've been told everybody naturally is or has.
5 billion people having racial bones in their body doesn't mean that I do.
2 billion people being muslim won't change the fact that I'm not
4 billion people feeding into the media's version of beauty doesn't mean that I do
There are different types of brainwashing or LEARNED cognitive behaviors. And racial brainwashing is just ONE in a pond of many. There is a huge difference between "most" & "all." Everybody doesn't fall victim to the same brainwashing ponds.
Children are NOT born racist or prejudice
Everybody is not victim to racial brainwashing, just like everybody isn't victim to religious brainwashing. There is no such thing as "everybody is..." when it comes to NURTURE. Even when it comes to "nature"...even then some people "lack" or "don't have the desire for" something they've been told everybody naturally is or has.
5 billion people having racial bones in their body doesn't mean that I do.
2 billion people being muslim won't change the fact that I'm not
4 billion people feeding into the media's version of beauty doesn't mean that I do
There are different types of brainwashing or LEARNED cognitive behaviors. And racial brainwashing is just ONE in a pond of many. There is a huge difference between "most" & "all." Everybody doesn't fall victim to the same brainwashing ponds.
Posted by krysrenee7Posted by aime7Posted by krysrenee7
@Aime:
No lol. I stated that my opinion on the prevalence of racism in this country was about a 7.
I am highly aware that racism still exist. My only argument went out to the people who assumed that just b/c they can't rid themselves of the few racist bones in their body doesn't mean that me or others didn't. THAT was my point.
I don't let people speak for me & then continue trying to put me in a box with everybody else even though I've said I didn't belong in that box. Not only do I know allow people to put me in a racial box, but I don't allow them to tell me how I think or what I believe in either. THAT was all.
If you think things will change, then you are too naive.
You don't listen that well lol I believe racism is still very prevalent. I stated that already. TWICE. I don't believe it will change & if it does, it won't be in my lifetime. Given that, where is your "naive" comment coming from??
If you're insinuating that me not judging by race makes me "too naive" then trust me, I'd rather take the title of "naive" than "ignorant." What is the world coming to when someone is actually criticized for NOT discriminating against other people? LOL so so sadclick to expand
I can safely assume that you're not cut from the same cloth as Shahrazad Ali.
Posted by DonAmanMarat
You watch comedians whose gigs are NOTHING but racist, listen to music with racist lyrics, watch movies and television with racist connotation and you're NOT racist? Lol! Your WHOLE source of entertainment is racism. You are what you eat, right, except add 2 more: you ARE what you see and hear, in which case only way you're NOT racist is if you packed ALL media and moved out of society's reach to become a hermit...again, you not do that cuz you don't like hermits either.
The brainwashing tools are there
But not everybody feeds into that toxic thinking
I can watch a movie or listen to a song about blowing people up with machine guns. Doesn't mean I believe it's right, nor does it mean that I'm gullible enough to go buy some machine guns & shoot people up. Not once has Snooki inspired me to be a club rat, or Bruce Lee inspired me to go around kicking everybody's azz, or Tupac inspired me to condone violence.
Hell, I have to hear about religion in almost every aspect of media/entertainment too, but not once have I ever wavered in my faith towards what I've believed in from the beginning.
No matter how much the media tries to convince me that "all" or "most" muslims are terrorists who should make us all uncomfortable on an elevator or airplane, I will never & have never fed into that.
No matter how much the media/family/entertainment brainwashes women into believing that they must be married & have children in order to be considered a real "woman," doesn't change the fact that some women never fed into that & could give a hot F what the media/society says
Society might control YOUR mind, but not mine. Speak only for yourself
There's religion, sexuality, violence, discrimination, terrorism to self and others, drugs, etc. in almost every aspect of media & society but NOT ONCE have I:
-Wanted to become Catholic or Muslim just bc the masses are (or bc I'm exposed to it)
-Wanted to sleep around, go nude & use my body to make others think I'm beautiful (just b/c millions of other women got brainwashed into doing that)
-Wanted to kill or harm someone just b/c most movies, video games, reality tv shows & politicians expose me to it
-Wanted to try drugs b/c I see lots of others swearing it's a great high & way of escaping from reality (their beliefs BEFORE rehab becomes necessary)
NOT ONCE!
You can't accuse someone of being brainwashed towards a specific thing unless you've seen proof of that. So far, I and those who truly know me have seen no proof of such.
I'm not 1 of these people who don't believe in the power of brainwashing. I get it. Some people start believing & feeding into stuff if they see the mass/majority doing so. NOT EVERYBODY DOES THOUGH
-Wanted to become Catholic or Muslim just bc the masses are (or bc I'm exposed to it)
-Wanted to sleep around, go nude & use my body to make others think I'm beautiful (just b/c millions of other women got brainwashed into doing that)
-Wanted to kill or harm someone just b/c most movies, video games, reality tv shows & politicians expose me to it
-Wanted to try drugs b/c I see lots of others swearing it's a great high & way of escaping from reality (their beliefs BEFORE rehab becomes necessary)
NOT ONCE!
You can't accuse someone of being brainwashed towards a specific thing unless you've seen proof of that. So far, I and those who truly know me have seen no proof of such.
I'm not 1 of these people who don't believe in the power of brainwashing. I get it. Some people start believing & feeding into stuff if they see the mass/majority doing so. NOT EVERYBODY DOES THOUGH
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