Outside Ourselves: Understanding People.

I’ve started to learn it’s getting hard to blame people for what they believe. Some live in a fantasy world where they can’t see the reason for why people do or say what they feel. It’s like living in that fantasy world for so long has taken away their ability to see all sides of something, and taken the ability to show compassion. Which has eventually taken away their own ability to show themselves compassion, and they end up living in negativity and unable to cope with society. I feel the lesson is once you’ve thrown out the idea of forgiveness and mercy to others, it gets replaced with hate, resentment, and anger. I can’t blame people for being like this though. They are a product of what they’ve seen in life. A construct of what society has stated as life, which they fear or disagree with

The second type of people, among many other types, are those who are so deep in the real world, they end up carrying all the weight of what they’ve seen and experienced. Thus making them more likely to become weak and break down over time. They have no defense, other then holding it in or pretending it didn’t happen. Eventually they end up delusional, and in the same type of fantasy world as the above. Only now it’s openly expressed rather then closed off. They want to get the weight off their shoulders, but spent all their effort hiding the reality of things. Because of this they have no strength left to fix themselves. They might have the ability to show compassion and mercy, but lost the ability to see what’s really wrong in life. I feel the lesson is when you always give forgiveness and mercy, you open your life up to manipulation and betrayal by those who are truly wicked.

So I’m trying to formulate a way to become better. I realize people aren’t perfect, though many expect others to be perfectly wired emotionally and mentally. To have no baggage they’ve swept under the rug that secretly haunts them whatsoever. But that idea is a fantasy, and not real. People will always have their own personal problems that others will never understand. There is some kind of emotional idea or even illusion that they truly believe. Maybe it helps them sleep at night, or maybe it’s what they believe in to cope. No matter which, it’s something that’s constructed them over time just like any human in the world. Something they experienced for themselves, and it changed them for the better or worse. Something you or I will never truly understand, only them. What I’ve learned is the importance of a strict balance between forgiveness and mercy, with disbelief and consequence. The main goal to to learn how to tell the difference between someone truly wicked, with someone who is delusional that uses it to cope.

What do you think? Have you learned to see the other side of every story, or even learned to look at it from a distance before you make a solid opinion? If so what has it done for you? Do you feel you can make more logical choices by giving an opinion less, and by listening more? Has this process brought you more peace of mind, and closer to yourself? I notice people are always trying to tell others how to be, but they don’t even know what to be even is. Many are lost inside their own thoughts. Using things like alcohol, drugs, dxpnet, entertainment, and all kinds of other things to keep them constantly thinking, and as far away from themselves as possible. This is where they create the fantasy, and lose connection with reality outside themselves. Do you think this is true?

Posted by s_i_e_r_r_a

you commented on my escort thread

without even reading it first



i'm just saying

I’m try to learn something, which I stated in the post. I understand your point though. The past is irrelevant however, since I’m trying to look ahead.

Some people will argue drugs made them a more open person

Posted by TheRabbit

I can absolutely "blame" people for what they believe and no, not everyone is entitled to an opinion.

You most certainly are entitled to blame people if you want. Which is what life has created in you.

That’s exactly what I’m trying to progress myself and others past. That you can believe anything. It’s your mind, and no one outside of it will ever be able to truly understand it or know what changes/ unchanges it more then you. Because of that, I don’t blame you for thinking the way you do.

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Posted by s_i_e_r_r_a

you commented on my escort thread

without even reading it first



i'm just saying

I’m try to learn something, which I stated in the post. I understand your point though. The past is irrelevant however, since I’m trying to look ahead.

i think people should be allowed their delusions

only if it's going in the positive direction

pessimism annoys me

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I can agree with that completely. People messing with others just to do it is really bad at its core.

What do you expect of them in the long run? Would you accept them if they changed themselves over time?

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Posted by Sag898

Some people will argue drugs made them a more open person

They did for me.

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That’s true, if you can get the message and help from it and move on. If not you’re using it as a bandage, and never truly healing. Like any medicine that just takes the pain away for a bit. That or just using it because you feel it’s better to feel that then to feel life. I’m like that myself. If you truly need it though, that’s just another thing only you would truly understand in your own personal life. Because I’m not you, and will never know what you truly need in life.

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Posted by s_i_e_r_r_a

you commented on my escort thread

without even reading it first



i'm just saying

I’m try to learn something, which I stated in the post. I understand your point though. The past is irrelevant however, since I’m trying to look ahead.

i think people should be allowed their delusions

only if it's going in the positive direction

pessimism annoys me

I can agree with that completely. People messing with others just to do it is really bad at its core.

What do you expect of them in the long run? Would you accept them if they changed themselves over time?

it annoys me coz it saddens me

makes me feel helpless

i always hope they'd lighten up

though i probably wouldn't wanna

be around them for a long time

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I feel the same way about them. The difference is I honestly believe I can help or make them feel better. Truth is I haven’t even changed myself yet, so the advice I give at times is worse then if I would have said nothing at all to them. Then used that moment to reflect on myself rather then openly voicing an opinion.

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Posted by s_i_e_r_r_a

you commented on my escort thread

without even reading it first



i'm just saying

I’m try to learn something, which I stated in the post. I understand your point though. The past is irrelevant however, since I’m trying to look ahead.

i think people should be allowed their delusions

only if it's going in the positive direction

pessimism annoys me

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Pessimism enrages me. I imagine a life or death situation and a pessimist saying, "O, jus giv up." And, with a polite "please" at the end. And then, I'm beyound rage about to go super saiyan.

Posted by tiziani

I'm addicted to the internet but not much else. I could do with more interesting vices, actually.

I can suggest some Netflix shows.

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Posted by tiziani

I'm addicted to the internet but not much else. I could do with more interesting vices, actually.

I can suggest some Netflix shows.

LOL I was thinking more like hard drugs or something, go out with a bang!

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I'm sure I could make contract with that dealer from my last property.. he was making meth, interested?

I will never get people that operate on an emotional basis. Never will, and don't really want to.

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Posted by tiziani

I'm addicted to the internet but not much else. I could do with more interesting vices, actually.

I can suggest some Netflix shows.

LOL I was thinking more like hard drugs or something, go out with a bang!

I'm sure I could make contract with that dealer from my last property.. he was making meth, interested?

I'm gonna need weekends off of the street corner then.

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We can arrange that, after you break in the new guy, need someone to show him the ropes 😛

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Posted by TheRabbit

I can absolutely "blame" people for what they believe and no, not everyone is entitled to an opinion.

What if the person who painted it didn’t paint a 6 or 9 but painted a number that could be interpreted as both. I mean the person who drew that cartoon literally did just that lol. Not everything has a black and white answer

A number is a statement of value. All statements must be true or false. There are no gray areas.

If someone paints something that can be interpreted either as a 6 or a 9, then a statement of value is no longer being made and it becomes the opinion of the person looking at it. Opinions can neither be true nor false.

The cartoon is a perfect representation of the confusion between statements and opinions.

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It’s kind of odd to think the creator used the number 6 and 9. There may be no deep meaning behind it whatsoever other then what is obvious. When I see it, I see something else however. The number 6 and 9 makes a great sex position, but more importantly the infinity symbol. Which I view is deep below the point of this picture. It’s still there though. To me it shows that the scale of statement vs opinion as infinite. Because in any truth you can find something false, and in something false you can find something true. If you want to dig deep enough to find it that is. But that will just lead you to a never ending chain of something else that leads to something else.

Posted by tiziani

I'm addicted to the internet but not much else. I could do with more interesting vices, actually.

I'm addicted to shopping. Sometimes DXP is the backdrop. Sometimes a selection of Turkish rugs.