Rethinking the GYM

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So Ive been told by several men that I do not need to be working out. Ive been told by men at the gym to leave and never come back. Im not skinny, im not fat. size 10, im thick.

The Sag has mentioned 3 separate times that he does not like the fact that i work out. he hates it. He is not a fan. I have to sneak to go to the gym.

On FB we were discussing this video and how men that i find attractive are attracted to women this size. It makes me rethink the gym and my health.

I want a man but at the cost of my health? i mean its supply and demand. Men including the sag want this body type that i am not. the sag has even suggested dumping me for someone bigger. The men i like are demanding something different.

So what to do? There is a pool of men, with every decision i make, i either widen my pool or shrink my pool. Is working out actually shrinking my pool?

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I have a problem with all the emphasis people put on body types and body sizes and trying to pin down what is the "ideal" beauty or turn on. People do this with color, boob size, you name it. Society as a whole needs to just stop it and consider that everyone at every age has something of beauty to them and the first thing anyone should notice is your soul.

Looks change, sizes change, shapes change, we grow older and get wrinkles and no one stays 18 forever, but there is this gross and shallow obsession with doing this or that to attract this or that, or having to do this or that to keep this or that. I'm not saying don't be healthy and don't take care of oneself, but beauty really is in the eye of the beholder and its a bit subjective, like tastes in art. Everyone has something they look for in a person and find attractive over something else but that doesn't make it good or bad, it's just a personal preference.

Some will have a thing for tall people or short people, skinny people or fat people, blue eyes or brown eyes, or older than them or younger than them, or Asian, Latino, White, Black, redhead, blonde, brunette, straight hair, curly hair, bald, weird, funny, serious, workaholic, punk, badass, traditionalist, etc. and so on.

Every person should focus on their inner light and how that may or may not attract or effect others. DMV, you're not "thick" and you're beautiful. Just love yourself and do what makes YOU feel good and healthy.
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Posted by Andalusia
It could also be partly due to jealously. Gyms are typically male dominated environments. He/They (Whoever you're dating) might not want other guys looking at you.

Tell him you're taking a women only belly dance, pole dancing, or yoga class and see what he says.



he is down with yoga. this is what i first thought when a guy has a problem with a female going to the gym. he scurred someone gonna snatch me up.

he should be.
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Haven't read all the comments yet but I was having the EXACT same argument with myself. After I had my daughter I gained a lot of weight and as someone who was used to being skinny it made me incredibly self conscious, so much that I rarely dated because I didn't think guys would really find me attractive. I eventually buckled down and lost a ton of weight. I now have a small but curvy body which I totally love and am proud of. So I get back out there and start dating and I feel like I'm literally being pushed out of the way for girls my old larger size. HUGE FACE PALM!!! Who knew if I had the right confidence back then I could have had any guy I wanted. Even the guy I'm currently jonesing for, prefers girls my larger size and since he knew me when I was larger he HATES that I won't stop working out and toning up.

But I eventually decided that I didn't lose all this weight to land a guy. I lost it because this is the size I'm comfortable with. If that costs me a few potential guys then so be it. At least I can be happy with myself, by myself...lol
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Posted by LadyOfRebirth
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I mean, why would a man want a women to look a certain way if its unhealthy?



You know what more and more people are becoming convinced being chubby or overweight is not necessarily unhealthy.. Which is bs. I've had arguments with many people about this. My family is a very healthy family, I'm a size 10 too and they all tell me I should lose a few pounds lol.
Anyway you know what's best for your body, do you. If your Sag can't accept you working out that's his problem not yours.
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i think a size 10 is very healthy.

That shit is BS. being overweight is very unhealthy.
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I mean, why would a man want a women to look a certain way if its unhealthy?



Poor self esteem.



hmm do you think it makes them feel more secure to have a woman like this because she has less choices?



Exactly.

I have a friend who loved obese women. He openly admitted it was because they were easy targets and wouldn't leave because they had few options.
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makes sense. but what he doesnt know it, these large ladies have plenty of options.
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Posted by MoonArtist
I have a problem with all the emphasis people put on body types and body sizes and trying to pin down what is the "ideal" beauty or turn on. People do this with color, boob size, you name it. Society as a whole needs to just stop it and consider that everyone at every age has something of beauty to them and the first thing anyone should notice is your soul.

Looks change, sizes change, shapes change, we grow older and get wrinkles and no one stays 18 forever, but there is this gross and shallow obsession with doing this or that to attract this or that, or having to do this or that to keep this or that. I'm not saying don't be healthy and don't take care of oneself, but beauty really is in the eye of the beholder and its a bit subjective, like tastes in art. Everyone has something they look for in a person and find attractive over something else but that doesn't make it good or bad, it's just a personal preference.

Some will have a thing for tall people or short people, skinny people or fat people, blue eyes or brown eyes, or older than them or younger than them, or Asian, Latino, White, Black, redhead, blonde, brunette, straight hair, curly hair, bald, weird, funny, serious, workaholic, punk, badass, traditionalist, etc. and so on.

Every person should focus on their inner light and how that may or may not attract or effect others. DMV, you're not "thick" and you're beautiful. Just love yourself and do what makes YOU feel good and healthy.



thanks. I do love myself and all that. but i dress to attract men. I like my body to look a certain way to attract a certain male type. Its all good when ladies tell me, your perfect this n that, but the reality is, im not trying to attract a woman.

men are so cut in dry with what they like. i like that. clear direction. but now this video has me thinking.
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Haven't read all the comments yet but I was having the EXACT same argument with myself. After I had my daughter I gained a lot of weight and as someone who was used to being skinny it made me incredibly self conscious, so much that I rarely dated because I didn't think guys would really find me attractive. I eventually buckled down and lost a ton of weight. I now have a small but curvy body which I totally love and am proud of. So I get back out there and start dating and I feel like I'm literally being pushed out of the way for girls my old larger size. HUGE FACE PALM!!! Who knew if I had the right confidence back then I could have had any guy I wanted. Even the guy I'm currently jonesing for, prefers girls my larger size and since he knew me when I was larger he HATES that I won't stop working out and toning up.

But I eventually decided that I didn't lose all this weight to land a guy. I lost it because this is the size I'm comfortable with. If that costs me a few potential guys then so be it. At least I can be happy with myself, by myself...lol



yes yes yes. you totally get what im saying. it give you pause right—?

like what the fuck am i busting my ass for in the gym when the biggums are whats being demanded?

is it a fad? skinny girls were in but now thickums are gaining momentum, but who ever thought that even thickums arent enough?

i have been literally looked over for bigger girls; im not even in the running. Im not talking about face beauty either. lets keep that the same. everybodys good looking.
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Posted by xtina
Do it for you girl!

If a man is willing to dump you over something as shallow as your size, regardless of whether you are thick or thin, he is NOT worth your time.

You want a man to love you for you not the way you look.

I mean looks are a plus but it should not be the whole cake, just the icing 😉



i dunno, i cant blame a guy who likes what he likes. i dont think that would make him shallow. I dont like bald men, does that make me shallow?
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Chile you'll run yourself crazy trying to keep up with what these men like on any given day. They like what the media (i.e. music videos) tells them to like. Back in the day it was petite modelesque women properly dressed to look sexy not slutty, now they're naked & they're super thick. Unless I'm willing to go buy a new body, these chicks have some attributes that I just don't have and I'm cool with that! What looks good on them would NOT look good on me. So I stopped looking out and started looking in. I'm working out for ME and if one day I decided to gain weight (which I won't) I'd only do it if it was for ME.

If a man doesn't like this little body that's HIS problem... I love it...I worked HARD for it 😉
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If you worry about what everybody thinks you'll go nuts. What do you want to look like? What makes you feel good about yourself? Make yourself the best you can be both mentally and physically and when the men come a callin you will have the pick of what you want.

Nothing says sexy then a woman with a clear level mind. If the body is slammin thats just icy on a very desirable cake.

Be yourself as you define yourself. But the quickest way to get men to hang around is to be a same level headed woman with real self confidence. Not that fake 'he can't handle all this...' bullcrap you hear nowadays.

Sane is the new sexy.
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Chile you'll run yourself crazy trying to keep up with what these men like on any given day. They like what the media (i.e. music videos) tells them to like. Back in the day it was petite modelesque women properly dressed to look sexy not slutty, now they're naked & they're super thick. Unless I'm willing to go buy a new body, these chicks have some attributes that I just don't have and I'm cool with that! What looks good on them would NOT look good on me. So I stopped looking out and started looking in. I'm working out for ME and if one day I decided to gain weight (which I won't) I'd only do it if it was for ME.

If a man doesn't like this little body that's HIS problem... I love it...I worked HARD for it 😉



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It could also be partly due to jealously. Gyms are typically male dominated environments. He/They (Whoever you're dating) might not want other guys looking at you.

Tell him you're taking a women only belly dance, pole dancing, or yoga class and see what he says.



he is down with yoga. this is what i first thought when a guy has a problem with a female going to the gym. he scurred someone gonna snatch me up.

he should be.



Because you'd leave?...

aaaaaaaaand now there's a reason. Of course, you're going to leave if you want to, gym or not.
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hell yeah he should be. im not his girlfriend.
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A size 10 is considered thick?

*mentally eyeballs ice cream lurking in freezer*

I'll take your gym membership if you're not using it. 😛




No, but seriously, if a guy gets with you I would wager that it's because he finds you attractive as you are and not what he imagines you could be. And if he does try to change you after the fact then he's either a manipulative douche that should be dumped like yesterday's bad news, or he's just using you/doesn't actually care about you for who you are the way you deserve to be cared for.

Men go for ALL types too. If you don't believe that variety is the spice of life try surfing porn sometime. Everybody fills somebody's niche preference.
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Posted by thebiggcarlos12345678910
personally i say the hell with what people say about my or others physical appearance. if they don't like how god mold me, well thats just too damn bad. sorry i know this isn't about me, but i just kinda needed to get that one out.

as for you, i say the hell with trying to dress to impress men. i think someday the right man will seek you for who you are. and if we gonna talk about how men like their women, speaking only on my behalf i DO like thick broads. mines thick too. i see absolutely nothing wrong with thick women. just be yourself. and don't stop working out because of what other people say or think. nine times out of ten their just jealous because they can't get off their fat lazy behind and go to the gym themselves.



i like being my size, its took a long time to get here. women have it tough. we are constantly bombarded with what looks good or not.
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Posted by TMV
A size 10 is considered thick?

*mentally eyeballs ice cream lurking in freezer*

I'll take your gym membership if you're not using it. 😛




No, but seriously, if a guy gets with you I would wager that it's because he finds you attractive as you are and not what he imagines you could be. And if he does try to change you after the fact then he's either a manipulative douche that should be dumped like yesterday's bad news, or he's just using you/doesn't actually care about you for who you are the way you deserve to be cared for.

Men go for ALL types too. If you don't believe that variety is the spice of life try surfing porn sometime. Everybody fills somebody's niche preference.



i agree
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Posted by size zero superhero
LMAO you make it sound like this guy, who is so vehemently against your gym membership, is convinced that the ONLY reason people exercise is to lose mass amounts of weight. (Not like you have to answer to him or anyone else about what you do in your down-time anyway.)

And it's not like going down a size would mean you'd look emaciated, because as you said--you are not skinny nor big as is. You might even put on a few pounds(if you gain muscle)but simultaneously lose inches on your waist.

Furthermore, diet makes a greater impact on weight loss/gain than does exercise, though the latter is also important if you want that "toned" look.



i just lie to him and tell him that i only walk on treadmill. it gets him to shut up lol
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DMV you do know that you are not going to be attractive to every man?

Men have a variety of likes and dislikes and to try and mold yourself around what they like is futile.

I'm a size 6 and I am not going to be IT for a lot of guys, so what, my husband thinks I'm beautiful, the men I've dated had no problem with my weight.

Be yourself and try not to mold your appearance around what men want because men want what they want at any given time of the day and you are not always going to fit into what they want.

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I have a sagi mars and I would go crazy if I didn't work out!
If I am not active enough in the day I can't sleep at night, therefore I get stressed, cranky and the vicious cycle begins... Also, I hate to say it but I'm not getting any younger and being fit definitely helps with getting out of bed in the morning and the old creaking joints 😄

I'm a NZ10- guess that is the same in US sizes, but I was a lot bigger a while ago- and I was not at all happy!
I love having curves as well as muscles!

The best thing is to stop thinking about what men want- we are never going to figure that out!!!
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Posted by LilliLou
I have a sagi mars and I would go crazy if I didn't work out!
If I am not active enough in the day I can't sleep at night, therefore I get stressed, cranky and the vicious cycle begins... Also, I hate to say it but I'm not getting any younger and being fit definitely helps with getting out of bed in the morning and the old creaking joints 😄

I'm a NZ10- guess that is the same in US sizes, but I was a lot bigger a while ago- and I was not at all happy!
I love having curves as well as muscles!

The best thing is to stop thinking about what men want- we are never going to figure that out!!!



+1000 I don't even work out to lose weight anymore. It's my therapy now, where I go to release all of my negativity. If I didn't have that time I'd surely go crazy.

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DMV you do know that you are not going to be attractive to every man?





honestly. yes and no. for example, if i find a certain man attractive and im interested, wouldnt i want to conform myself to meet his standard if i want to attract him?
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HELL NO!!! That's like amending your personality to meet his standard. It's a slippery slope to losing yourself completely and becoming his stepford wife. If you want to change because the change makes you happy with yourself then go for it, but to do it for someone else is risky. Suppose you make the changes and get the guy, but he eventually cheats with an even larger woman. There you are left feeling confused, betrayed and honestly unhappy because YOU never really wanted to be that size.

Just ask yourself, if men didn't exist how would I want to look? Then go with that...
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I think you have to just do what makes you happy and comfortable. It shouldn't be about attracting men, because as others have said, there's something for everyone, no matter what, someone will be attracted to you.

I gained some weight last year. I'm a size 12.
The Scirp is not complaining about it, he likes how I look.

But I don't feel good how I am now, so I have been trying to shed a couple of pounds. I find most people will tell me I'm not fat, I don't need to lose weight. They say that because I'm not huge, and there are many larger than me.
I just know for myself, I feel better a little skinnier.
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Posted by DMV
Just ask yourself, if men didn't exist how would I want to look? Then go with that...

^^ is some food for thought...

i have to admit, im pretty impressionable. If i hear a guy say something he likes, i will go out and become what he likes. If he likes a certain dress, i got 3 of those dresses.

definitely food for thought.



Just remember your looks might gain his interest but your personality is what's going to determine if he sticks around. Figure out who you are or want to be (physically or otherwise) and commit to that. At least that way you know the man you're with is with you for who you are and not who you pretend to be.
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DMV you do know that you are not going to be attractive to every man?





honestly. yes and no. for example, if i find a certain man attractive and im interested, wouldnt i want to conform myself to meet his standard if i want to attract him?



HELL NO!!! That's like amending your personality to meet his standard. It's a slippery slope to losing yourself completely and becoming his stepford wife. If you want to change because the change makes you happy with yourself then go for it, but to do it for someone else is risky. Suppose you make the changes and get the guy, but he eventually cheats with an even larger woman. There you are left feeling confused, betrayed and honestly unhappy because YOU never really wanted to be that size.

Just ask yourself, if men didn't exist how would I want to look? Then go with that...
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THIS!! Yes yes yes and more YES!

I'll say this for every person alive: love yourself first and foremost or you can't love others fully. Love and accept yourself and work on and improve what you don't like FOR YOURSELF. If you do it for others and they change their shallow minds or you change because of health, accident, etc. and are no longer loved because you don't fit the "type" they wanted then you're left feeling resentment and hurt. Shallow people can only give you shallow love and it will never be enough.
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+1 million Fembot

The least attractive think a woman can do is loser herself just to become what he wants.

Do you really think a man wants a woman that will lose the self she created from birth just to mold herself into what he thinks he's attracted to at at any given moment. Being that kind of woman will drive you banana's.

To lose yourself, the self you've been molding, putting hard work and effort into all of your entire life just to get and keep a man smells no reeks of insecurity and can make you look like a doormat and eventually give out that loser energy b/c men deep down want you to be you, they are deeply attracted to a secure in herself confident in herself type of woman.

Your body pulls a man in but it won't keep him around. He has to connect with you mentally and emotionally in order for him to want to stay with you.

I've found thru my own experiences with men that a man that only focuses on his cave man instincts such as how you look will never connect with you mentally nor emotionally b/c he has not developed in those areas, he'll just tire of you and your body and move on to the next body.

So you molding yourself is futile (a complete waste of time), he's not placing any value on you doing that if his main reason for being with you is your body, how you look.
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