@Soul
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I want Bernie back so badly but he’s not coming back sadly this election, maybe ever. If I had to choose the lesser of two evils, which it always seems to come down to nowadays, I won’t vote for Trump I know that for a fucking fact. His comments alone about the recent fires over here solidify that for me considering over half of CA’s forests are federal land. I hate that these are our choices but somehow, that’s what it is. If we could get a real movement together to vote someone else in besides the big two running right now, I’d be all over it. But as it stands, every vote for someone else besides them is a vote that get Trump back in and that can’t happen.... just please no.... no more Trump. America is a fucking laugh stock enough.
I will be voting for Joe Biden 100%
Posted by AbbyNormalI want Bernie back so badly but he’s not coming back sadly this election, maybe ever. If I had to choose the lesser of two evils, which it always seems to come down to nowadays, I won’t vote for Trump I know that for a fucking fact. His comments alone about the recent fires over here solidify that for me considering over half of CA’s forests are federal land. I hate that these are our choices but somehow, that’s what it is. If we could get a real movement together to vote someone else in besides the big two running right now, I’d be all over it. But as it stands, every vote for someone else besides them is a vote that get Trump back in and that can’t happen.... just please no.... no more Trump. America is a fucking laugh stock enough.
I mean, there is the 3rd party which people laugh at but its still real.
I'm honestly going to vote libertarian this election. Fuck both these parties at this point.
Yes we should. And Hillary.
Posted by DMVI will be voting for Joe Biden 100%
You know there is a 3rd party right? You also know Biden stands for nothing you as a human stands for as well? Yet you would still vote for the creepy white man that would gladly sniff a child? What are your reasons to justify this?
I find that extremely weird, and off the wall especially for someone like you. I'm sure you have your own personal reasons though.
Biden will become the next Corbin or Shorten.
People aren't stupid.
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Posted by Pesto101Biden will become the next Corbin or Shorten.
People aren't stupid.
I actually agree with this 100%
People aren't stupid.
Yet people are still fully controlled by their media and government. Its like they know the truth, yet know there is nothing they can do about it. So what is the long term solution?
Both are racist and creepy
B O T H
All Trump supporters should be subjected to the president’s self-admitted method of pussy grabbing on their daughters and all Biden supporters be subjected to his hair sniffing and hair petting on their daughters
Both clearly should not have ever had any chance of becoming president for multitude of reasons but they did so now you gotta pick your poison
Posted by SoulPosted by Pesto101Biden will become the next Corbin or Shorten.
People aren't stupid.
I actually agree with this 100%
People aren't stupid.
Yet people are still fully controlled by their media and government. Its like they know the truth, yet know there is nothing they can do about it. So what is the long term solution?
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Posted by VictoriousHe really is a paedophile too.
You’d have to be blind to see he’s not dodgy, he acts so inappropriately and has no boundaries.
@Soul, who are you voting for?
Luckily I’m exempt as I don’t live there...
Posted by MaraiPosted by VictoriousHe really is a paedophile too.
This is VERY disturbing. 🤢
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Gross 😐
I'm originally a Sanders supporter. But Biden I think would make a better president than this yellow clown we got as a president.
Meh what are our choices ?
Let the cards fall where they may
We give the president more credit than they’re due anyway imo. Presidents aren’t leaders anymore, they’re illusions. They don’t make many decisions anyway...they’re more like the fall guy.
There are other things worth your vote on the ballot
This thread just goes to show how truly blind people are and the shit they believe even the people that don't live in the United States. It really is truly mind boggling to me.
I highly recommend everyone step away from tv, social media, the news etc for a year....hell, even 6 months...maybe then you'll be able to see things and form truly your own opinions... majority of you just regurgitate what's being feed to you...it's like robots. Shits weird asf.
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by MaraiPosted by VictoriousHe really is a paedophile too.
This is VERY disturbing. 🤢
Gross 😐
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Oh come on. Trump has done worse than that. I just see this as him being affectionate. What's suppose to be wrong with a man being affectionate with kids?
Like LIMM just said y'all need to step away from the tube for a year or so. These media's is feeding y'all a bunch of garbage.
I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers. Why we let them get away with raising their salaries and while majority of us can't feed their families etc. Why are they exempt from everything they push on the American people.
Nothing will ever change no matter who is in "charge" ....yet we continue to fight with each other over bs with out actually trying to change anything at all. Majority think things will be better with the next person then after 4 to 8 yrs...it's oh things will be better with the next one. It'll never happen because nothing has changed except the "face". 🤦🏼♀️
Hahah
OP, at least some of the responses (especially the ones directed at you personally in response to you posting your question) here gave you your answer.
This is an obscure, marginally astrology oriented site on the internet, which would not exactly constitute a cross section of the population in general --so you have to take that into consideration.
Its also social media, where anonymity allows for conduct you probably not normally get in an actual social setting.
I'm sure they way you posed your question was to provoke a response, which you got.
But I suspect even if you posed the question in more of an academic manner you would still get a similar set of responses.
Posted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers🤦🏼♀️
That alone won't fix it.
Even then, while the faces of the elected officials change, you have the bureaucracy below that which doesn't necessarily change.
Posted by GemiAwesomeAssPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MaraiPosted by VictoriousHe really is a paedophile too.
This is VERY disturbing. 🤢
Gross 😐
Oh come on. Trump has done worse than that. I just see this as him being affectionate. What's suppose to be wrong with a man being affectionate with kids?
Like LIMM just said y'all need to step away from the tube for a year or so. These media's is feeding y'all a bunch of garbage.
If man has the same feelings for children as Biden - you can’t fix that man...it’s that or women beating...sick on any level...
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Maaan get lost with that women beating shit with me. I ain't tryna hear that. You tryin to rage war against me. Go harass lady Neptune, dazed and bluestar.
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MaraiPosted by VictoriousHe really is a paedophile too.
This is VERY disturbing. 🤢
Gross 😐
Oh come on. Trump has done worse than that. I just see this as him being affectionate. What's suppose to be wrong with a man being affectionate with kids?
Like LIMM just said y'all need to step away from the tube for a year or so. These media's is feeding y'all a bunch of garbage.
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This thread is about Joe. I’m sure Donald has been dodgy too. Those videos show how inappropriate his “touching” game is
At least Covid hopefully will ensure he keeps his hands to himself
Why do people feel the need to defend a politician just because they support the political party they belong to?
Loves himself some hildog too
Posted by BlueStarNo one supports Biden. They just support a democratic United States.
Who are you voting for, Blue?
Posted by CancerOnTheCuspOP, at least some of the responses (especially the ones directed at you personally in response to you posting your question) here gave you your answer.
This is an obscure, marginally astrology oriented site on the internet, which would not exactly constitute a cross section of the population in general --so you have to take that into consideration.
Its also social media, where anonymity allows for conduct you probably not normally get in an actual social setting.
I'm sure they way you posed your question was to provoke a response, which you got.
But I suspect even if you posed the question in more of an academic manner you would still get a similar set of responses.
Very true. The content of the subject in general is very predictable, but also necessary imo. Even if it does nothing more then vent pent up opinions people have little to no control over. It's like that for me at least. Dxpnet is somewhat a safe place for that.
Posted by Sith_RogenOur government is overrun with pedos, rapists, and probably worse. The lure of wealth and power is like candy to a child (LOL).
If you don't like it, then fucking vote. Plenty of people love to piss, bitch, and moan about our politicans but only vote in presidential election years or know nothing about their state politicians.
Get the fuck out and vote in the primaries, vote in midterms, research your local and state pols and do something more than bitch about it.
And if you're so god damn torn up about who's running for office, then you run for office. Be the change, not a whining cunt.
I'd show up shit faced and explain in full detail how I hate everyone how we are doomed. Then close on how much I love everyone and pass out at the stand.
Posted by Arielle83Posted by LostinmyMind11This thread just goes to show how truly blind people are and the shit they believe even the people that don't live in the United States. It really is truly mind boggling to me.
I highly recommend everyone step away from tv, social media, the news etc for a year....hell, even 6 months...maybe then you'll be able to see things and form truly your own opinions... majority of you just regurgitate what's being feed to you...it's like robots. Shits weird asf.
What should we see that you have seen?
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You can see whatever you want but until you can make unbias opinions for both sides of the coin...it's just all regurgitated bs.
Majority can't see past their fueled hatred to make those unbias opinions. Majority don't even know why they are mad but because everyone else is...they just go along with it because they want to belong to something so badly...they don't care wtf it is or if it's wrong or right. This is what I see...everyday...for years now.
I'm curious to know what you're seeing tho. How are we truly being portrayed in other countries. What your media is telling you. I think it would be a fascinating experiment tbh.
Out in the real world...I don't see half the shit going on like it's being pumped out from the medias. Granted I'm not everywhere in the world to witness it but where I live...it just ain't happening ..at least not in plain sight like they say...online, well, that's a different story.
Example....you think the "hatred" in America started with Trump...that's not true. When Bush was in office and after 911...we became, imo, united more so than ever before...minus some bs here and there. Things began going down hill during the Obama administration...I would say around the last 4yrs of it...I watched a once united US (again minus some hatred ...can't eliminate it all) slowly begin it's division and it has trickled down especially after Hilary didn't win...people went bat shit crazy. Que the media influence even more and well...you get what you have today.
Posted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarNo one supports Biden. They just support a democratic United States.
Who are you voting for, Blue?
If I lived in a red/swing state I’d vote Biden.
Since I don’t I’m voting Green Party Howie Hawkins.
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Trade Unionist?
Posted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarNo one supports Biden. They just support a democratic United States.
Who are you voting for, Blue?
If I lived in a red/swing state I’d vote Biden.
Since I don’t I’m voting Green Party Howie Hawkins.
Trade Unionist?
Yea
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He would prob be my choice if i lived there
Why are people saying voting for a third party is like voting for Donald?
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers. Why we let them get away with raising their salaries and while majority of us can't feed their families etc. Why are they exempt from everything they push on the American people.
Nothing will ever change no matter who is in "charge" ....yet we continue to fight with each other over bs with out actually trying to change anything at all. Majority think things will be better with the next person then after 4 to 8 yrs...it's oh things will be better with the next one. It'll never happen because nothing has changed except the "face". 🤦🏼♀️
So protest?
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I think it'll have to be a little more aggressive than a simple protest but I guess it couldn't hurt but tbh...I dont think people truly want change...we became comfortable and complacent and would rather go along with the show.
Posted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers🤦🏼♀️
That alone won't fix it.
Even then, while the faces of the elected officials change, you have the bureaucracy below that which doesn't necessarily change.
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That's true but it's a start at least.
They keep throwing these shiny balls in every direction to keep the focus off the shitty job they've been doing for decades and they've trained us to keep chasing those balls around just to bring them back so they can toss em again. Repeat the process.
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers. Why we let them get away with raising their salaries and while majority of us can't feed their families etc. Why are they exempt from everything they push on the American people.
Nothing will ever change no matter who is in "charge" ....yet we continue to fight with each other over bs with out actually trying to change anything at all. Majority think things will be better with the next person then after 4 to 8 yrs...it's oh things will be better with the next one. It'll never happen because nothing has changed except the "face". 🤦🏼♀️
So protest?
I think it'll have to be a little more aggressive than a simple protest but I guess it couldn't hurt but tbh...I dont think people truly want change...we became comfortable and complacent and would rather go along with the show.
Are you willing to sacrifice your life for it?
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For true change... absolutely
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers. Why we let them get away with raising their salaries and while majority of us can't feed their families etc. Why are they exempt from everything they push on the American people.
Nothing will ever change no matter who is in "charge" ....yet we continue to fight with each other over bs with out actually trying to change anything at all. Majority think things will be better with the next person then after 4 to 8 yrs...it's oh things will be better with the next one. It'll never happen because nothing has changed except the "face". 🤦🏼♀️
So protest?
I think it'll have to be a little more aggressive than a simple protest but I guess it couldn't hurt but tbh...I dont think people truly want change...we became comfortable and complacent and would rather go along with the show.
Are you willing to sacrifice your life for it?
For true change... absolutely
So why don’t you start something then?
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Because I'll be ignored. Like I said, no one truly wants that change.
Posted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarNo one supports Biden. They just support a democratic United States.
Who are you voting for, Blue?
If I lived in a red/swing state I’d vote Biden.
Since I don’t I’m voting Green Party Howie Hawkins.
Trade Unionist?
Yea
He would prob be my choice if i lived there
Why are people saying voting for a third party is like voting for Donald?
If you live in a place that isn’t going to end up Biden then you are essentially splitting the vote.
Republicans typically vote for whichever Republican candidate it is whether they like them or not.
So say 45% of the country votes Trump then if Biden gets 47% he would win.
However if you live somewhere I’m a Red state and you don’t like Trump then if you vote for a third party candidate that will only get 1-3% of the vote then let’s say Jo Jorgensen gets 6% of the vote and Kanye West 1% - now that 47% for Biden becomes 40% and those “anti-Trump” votes just got him elected again.
That’s why our voting system sucks. We don’t have ranked choice or another option but to vote for someone we don’t necessarily like.
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Thanks Blue and Rabbit
It sounds crazy
So “third parties” are Libertarian, Green etc?
The USPS has been a joke for years. They've been talking about "defunding" them way before now because it's been losing money. Hell, I can't even get the correct mail anymore. I watch my mailman talking on their phones, looking at their phones etc more than I see them delivering mail. Plus the amount of bs behind closed doors that I've heard about...it's no wonder.
-signed
Someone who has majority of their family that works for them and have retired from them. Take that for what it is.
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers. Why we let them get away with raising their salaries and while majority of us can't feed their families etc. Why are they exempt from everything they push on the American people.
Nothing will ever change no matter who is in "charge" ....yet we continue to fight with each other over bs with out actually trying to change anything at all. Majority think things will be better with the next person then after 4 to 8 yrs...it's oh things will be better with the next one. It'll never happen because nothing has changed except the "face". 🤦🏼♀️
So protest?
I think it'll have to be a little more aggressive than a simple protest but I guess it couldn't hurt but tbh...I dont think people truly want change...we became comfortable and complacent and would rather go along with the show.
Are you willing to sacrifice your life for it?
For true change... absolutely
So why don’t you start something then?
Because I'll be ignored. Like I said, no one truly wants that change.
That’s a load of bullshit. History suggests differently. BLM proves it, Stone wall proves it, the suffragettes (even though they were racist) proves it, the French Revolutions prove this. So many examples of people willing to sacrifice their lives or put themselves at risk for a better society. You’re just like the people who don’t care. Even though your life could be better it’s still pretty fucken good. You won’t risk that.click to expand
Whoever has the most money and ground to invest into their cause wins in the end.
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers. Why we let them get away with raising their salaries and while majority of us can't feed their families etc. Why are they exempt from everything they push on the American people.
Nothing will ever change no matter who is in "charge" ....yet we continue to fight with each other over bs with out actually trying to change anything at all. Majority think things will be better with the next person then after 4 to 8 yrs...it's oh things will be better with the next one. It'll never happen because nothing has changed except the "face". 🤦🏼♀️
So protest?
I think it'll have to be a little more aggressive than a simple protest but I guess it couldn't hurt but tbh...I dont think people truly want change...we became comfortable and complacent and would rather go along with the show.
Are you willing to sacrifice your life for it?
For true change... absolutely
So why don’t you start something then?
Because I'll be ignored. Like I said, no one truly wants that change.
That’s a load of bullshit. History suggests differently. BLM proves it, Stone wall proves it, the suffragettes (even though they were racist) proves it, the French Revolutions prove this. So many examples of people willing to sacrifice their lives or put themselves at risk for a better society. You’re just like the people who don’t care. Even though your life could be better it’s still pretty fucken good. You won’t risk that.click to expand
Pandering is not change. 🤷🏼♀️
Posted by BlueStarPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers. Why we let them get away with raising their salaries and while majority of us can't feed their families etc. Why are they exempt from everything they push on the American people.
Nothing will ever change no matter who is in "charge" ....yet we continue to fight with each other over bs with out actually trying to change anything at all. Majority think things will be better with the next person then after 4 to 8 yrs...it's oh things will be better with the next one. It'll never happen because nothing has changed except the "face". 🤦🏼♀️
So protest?
I think it'll have to be a little more aggressive than a simple protest but I guess it couldn't hurt but tbh...I dont think people truly want change...we became comfortable and complacent and would rather go along with the show.
Are you willing to sacrifice your life for it?
For true change... absolutely
So why don’t you start something then?
Because I'll be ignored. Like I said, no one truly wants that change.
Locally we’ve put 3 people from our protest groups on city/county commissions/councils and two are running write in candidacies.
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Well, we shall see what happens. It usually becomes a different story once in there tho.
Posted by LostinmyMind11Posted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers🤦🏼♀️
That alone won't fix it.
Even then, while the faces of the elected officials change, you have the bureaucracy below that which doesn't necessarily change.
That's true but it's a start at least.
They keep throwing these shiny balls in every direction to keep the focus off the shitty job they've been doing for decades and they've trained us to keep chasing those balls around just to bring them back so they can toss em again. Repeat the process.
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IMHO, one mistake Trump made, if he meant what he said about draining the swamp, was not immediately cleaning out holdovers from the previous administration in DOJ, the State Department, and potentially CIA and NSA.
On that theory, bureaucrats in those organizations would potentially not "play ball", although ideally they should be professionals who either got with the program or would resign--in other words, think of it as an IT staff in a fortune 500 company, loyal to the previous CEO, who decide to stay on and sabotage the company's systems because they disagree with the new CEO.
That has happened in private industry (I know of a few instances where similar things have happened), and results in firing and potential criminal charges being brought.
Thats what I was getting at. And I think Trump entered into office with the mindset that career people would be the professionals as I have noted.
Obviously (and I'm certain certain quarters here would disagree) that wasn't the case, given the bullshit we've seen the past 4 years.
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers. Why we let them get away with raising their salaries and while majority of us can't feed their families etc. Why are they exempt from everything they push on the American people.
Nothing will ever change no matter who is in "charge" ....yet we continue to fight with each other over bs with out actually trying to change anything at all. Majority think things will be better with the next person then after 4 to 8 yrs...it's oh things will be better with the next one. It'll never happen because nothing has changed except the "face". 🤦🏼♀️
So protest?
I think it'll have to be a little more aggressive than a simple protest but I guess it couldn't hurt but tbh...I dont think people truly want change...we became comfortable and complacent and would rather go along with the show.
Are you willing to sacrifice your life for it?
For true change... absolutely
So why don’t you start something then?
Because I'll be ignored. Like I said, no one truly wants that change.
That’s a load of bullshit. History suggests differently. BLM proves it, Stone wall proves it, the suffragettes (even though they were racist) proves it, the French Revolutions prove this. So many examples of people willing to sacrifice their lives or put themselves at risk for a better society. You’re just like the people who don’t care. Even though your life could be better it’s still pretty fucken good. You won’t risk that.
Pandering is not change. 🤷🏼♀️
So revolutions are pandering now?
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I was fixing my quote. I'm talking more here and now...I can't speak for what's happened in the past...I wasn't there.
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by SoulPosted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers. Why we let them get away with raising their salaries and while majority of us can't feed their families etc. Why are they exempt from everything they push on the American people.
Nothing will ever change no matter who is in "charge" ....yet we continue to fight with each other over bs with out actually trying to change anything at all. Majority think things will be better with the next person then after 4 to 8 yrs...it's oh things will be better with the next one. It'll never happen because nothing has changed except the "face". 🤦🏼♀️
So protest?
I think it'll have to be a little more aggressive than a simple protest but I guess it couldn't hurt but tbh...I dont think people truly want change...we became comfortable and complacent and would rather go along with the show.
Are you willing to sacrifice your life for it?
For true change... absolutely
So why don’t you start something then?
Because I'll be ignored. Like I said, no one truly wants that change.
That’s a load of bullshit. History suggests differently. BLM proves it, Stone wall proves it, the suffragettes (even though they were racist) proves it, the French Revolutions prove this. So many examples of people willing to sacrifice their lives or put themselves at risk for a better society. You’re just like the people who don’t care. Even though your life could be better it’s still pretty fucken good. You won’t risk that.
Whoever has the most money and ground to invest into their cause wins in the end.
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True.
Posted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarNo one supports Biden. They just support a democratic United States.
Who are you voting for, Blue?
If I lived in a red/swing state I’d vote Biden.
Since I don’t I’m voting Green Party Howie Hawkins.
Trade Unionist?
Yea
He would prob be my choice if i lived there
Why are people saying voting for a third party is like voting for Donald?
If you live in a place that isn’t going to end up Biden then you are essentially splitting the vote.
Republicans typically vote for whichever Republican candidate it is whether they like them or not.
So say 45% of the country votes Trump then if Biden gets 47% he would win.
However if you live somewhere I’m a Red state and you don’t like Trump then if you vote for a third party candidate that will only get 1-3% of the vote then let’s say Jo Jorgensen gets 6% of the vote and Kanye West 1% - now that 47% for Biden becomes 40% and those “anti-Trump” votes just got him elected again.
That’s why our voting system sucks. We don’t have ranked choice or another option but to vote for someone we don’t necessarily like.
Thanks Blue and Rabbit
It sounds crazy
So “third parties” are Libertarian, Green etc?
Yeah those are the major ones thought the Democratic Socialist Party is growing.
There is also progressive and workers parties. There are a ton of them.
I just read my pamphlet and look at records of people and align with who is on a similar page as me.
The presidential election is more strategic because it’s not a popular vote. Which it should be.
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I was just wondering if The Libertarian Party was the biggest?
Strategy of course
Posted by BlueStarPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by BlueStarPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers. Why we let them get away with raising their salaries and while majority of us can't feed their families etc. Why are they exempt from everything they push on the American people.
Nothing will ever change no matter who is in "charge" ....yet we continue to fight with each other over bs with out actually trying to change anything at all. Majority think things will be better with the next person then after 4 to 8 yrs...it's oh things will be better with the next one. It'll never happen because nothing has changed except the "face". 🤦🏼♀️
So protest?
I think it'll have to be a little more aggressive than a simple protest but I guess it couldn't hurt but tbh...I dont think people truly want change...we became comfortable and complacent and would rather go along with the show.
Are you willing to sacrifice your life for it?
For true change... absolutely
So why don’t you start something then?
Because I'll be ignored. Like I said, no one truly wants that change.
Locally we’ve put 3 people from our protest groups on city/county commissions/councils and two are running write in candidacies.
Well, we shall see what happens. It usually becomes a different story once in there tho.
Maybe. But we can hold them accountable because we have personal relationships with them. And they don’t fall asleep on zoom meetings with the public watching like the boomers that are on there now.
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I think majority who have went into local offices truly had that mindset to change things but money and power can easily influence things. Lets hope that's changed.
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by LostinmyMind11I also don't understand why we continue with the dog and pony show of "elections". Why we don't demand terms limits for Congress...why we let them get away with their high ass salaries for literally doing nothing but fight like middle schoolers. Why we let them get away with raising their salaries and while majority of us can't feed their families etc. Why are they exempt from everything they push on the American people.
Nothing will ever change no matter who is in "charge" ....yet we continue to fight with each other over bs with out actually trying to change anything at all. Majority think things will be better with the next person then after 4 to 8 yrs...it's oh things will be better with the next one. It'll never happen because nothing has changed except the "face". 🤦🏼♀️
So protest?
I think it'll have to be a little more aggressive than a simple protest but I guess it couldn't hurt but tbh...I dont think people truly want change...we became comfortable and complacent and would rather go along with the show.
Are you willing to sacrifice your life for it?
For true change... absolutely
So why don’t you start something then?
Because I'll be ignored. Like I said, no one truly wants that change.
That’s a load of bullshit. History suggests differently. BLM proves it, Stone wall proves it, the suffragettes (even though they were racist) proves it, the French Revolutions prove this. So many examples of people willing to sacrifice their lives or put themselves at risk for a better society. You’re just like the people who don’t care. Even though your life could be better it’s still pretty fucken good. You won’t risk that.
Pandering is not change. 🤷🏼♀️
So revolutions are pandering now?
I was fixing my quote. I'm talking more here and now...I can't speak for what's happened in the past...I wasn't there.
No worries
You not being there has no relevance.
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Kinda does... if everything we've been told has been a lie or "whitewashed" Or are we cherry picking history now to make things fit? I wish people would stick to one narrative.
Posted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarNo one supports Biden. They just support a democratic United States.
Who are you voting for, Blue?
If I lived in a red/swing state I’d vote Biden.
Since I don’t I’m voting Green Party Howie Hawkins.
Trade Unionist?
Yea
He would prob be my choice if i lived there
Why are people saying voting for a third party is like voting for Donald?
If you live in a place that isn’t going to end up Biden then you are essentially splitting the vote.
Republicans typically vote for whichever Republican candidate it is whether they like them or not.
So say 45% of the country votes Trump then if Biden gets 47% he would win.
However if you live somewhere I’m a Red state and you don’t like Trump then if you vote for a third party candidate that will only get 1-3% of the vote then let’s say Jo Jorgensen gets 6% of the vote and Kanye West 1% - now that 47% for Biden becomes 40% and those “anti-Trump” votes just got him elected again.
That’s why our voting system sucks. We don’t have ranked choice or another option but to vote for someone we don’t necessarily like.
Thanks Blue and Rabbit
It sounds crazy
So “third parties” are Libertarian, Green etc?
Yeah those are the major ones thought the Democratic Socialist Party is growing.
There is also progressive and workers parties. There are a ton of them.
I just read my pamphlet and look at records of people and align with who is on a similar page as me.
The presidential election is more strategic because it’s not a popular vote. Which it should be.
I was just wondering if The Libertarian Party was the biggest?
Strategy of course
Probably they tend to lean right though.
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Right as in Republican and Conservative/Tory party in the U.K.?
Posted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BlueStarNo one supports Biden. They just support a democratic United States.
Who are you voting for, Blue?
If I lived in a red/swing state I’d vote Biden.
Since I don’t I’m voting Green Party Howie Hawkins.
Trade Unionist?
Yea
He would prob be my choice if i lived there
Why are people saying voting for a third party is like voting for Donald?
If you live in a place that isn’t going to end up Biden then you are essentially splitting the vote.
Republicans typically vote for whichever Republican candidate it is whether they like them or not.
So say 45% of the country votes Trump then if Biden gets 47% he would win.
However if you live somewhere I’m a Red state and you don’t like Trump then if you vote for a third party candidate that will only get 1-3% of the vote then let’s say Jo Jorgensen gets 6% of the vote and Kanye West 1% - now that 47% for Biden becomes 40% and those “anti-Trump” votes just got him elected again.
That’s why our voting system sucks. We don’t have ranked choice or another option but to vote for someone we don’t necessarily like.
Thanks Blue and Rabbit
It sounds crazy
So “third parties” are Libertarian, Green etc?
Yeah those are the major ones thought the Democratic Socialist Party is growing.
There is also progressive and workers parties. There are a ton of them.
I just read my pamphlet and look at records of people and align with who is on a similar page as me.
The presidential election is more strategic because it’s not a popular vote. Which it should be.
I was just wondering if The Libertarian Party was the biggest?
Strategy of course
Probably they tend to lean right though.
Right as in Republican and Conservative/Tory party in the U.K.?
Correct
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Thanks
Sorry about all the questions....it's just a little (well a lot) mystifying when you're looking from the outisde...
Who do you predict will win?
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MaraiPosted by VictoriousHe really is a paedophile too.
This is VERY disturbing. 🤢
Gross 😐
Oh come on. Trump has done worse than that. I just see this as him being affectionate. What's suppose to be wrong with a man being affectionate with kids?
Like LIMM just said y'all need to step away from the tube for a year or so. These media's is feeding y'all a bunch of garbage.
This thread is about Joe. I’m sure Donald has been dodgy too. Those videos show how inappropriate his “touching” game is
At least Covid hopefully will ensure he keeps his hands to himself
Why do people feel the need to defend a politician just because they support the political party they belong to?
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Yeah let's hope he can keep his hands to himself with this covid thing going around.
If Biden was to be like trump going around inappropately touching young girls in their crotch and actually rape women I would feel the same way about Biden as I do to trump. As a fair and just Libra rising I call a spade a spade. No two sides with me.
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I'm wondering this because I've seen a few dumb fuckers on dxpnet and on Facebook in general who actually support Biden. At the same time I've never seen so many democrats shift away from their candidate in my life. Is it acceptable to support a pedo that sniffs children and other adults? Do biden supporters admit its ok to support someone who has more then enough footage of himself admitting he is attracted to children? Basically anyone who supports biden is supporting child trafficking and want to normalize pedos into the lgbt community. You biden supporters know this right? Like I don't even need to post anything to prove Biden is the most creepy old white guy to ever walk the earth. At least Trump can make a sentence, even if it's on a 3rd grade level. I just feel people who support Biden are truly mental. If you happen to be autistic and support biden I understand though. Can we have Bern back?