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Today's workplace has become the No. 1 spot for married individuals to meet affair partners. More men and women are breaking their marriage vows by engaging in office friendships that slowly become romantic relationships — relationships that would have been socially impossible just 30 years ago.

Today's careers offer more opportunity for extramarital affairs. Group interaction in coed workplaces, frequent travel and long hours create more opportunity and temptation than ever. The old idea of workplace romance between a powerful company executive and his single young secretary no longer reflects today's office relationship.

The new infidelity occurs between peers who first become emotionally attached, having no thought of physical involvement. Men and women who work closely together under stressful conditions can quickly become attracted to each other. They often share interests and think nothing of spending time over coffee or lunch getting to know one another.

One researcher calls this new kind of affair the "cup of coffee" syndrome. Men and women begin with safe marriages at home and friendships at work. As they regularly meet for coffee breaks and lunch, these relationships develop into deep friendships. Coworkers come to depend on these coffee rendezvous, and soon they have emotional work friendships and crumbling marriages.

Oddly, men and women in these workplace romances believe it is wrong to have an affair. Affair partners are usually happy in their marriages and have no plans to leave their spouses. Because of the gradual slide toward infidelity, partners do not pay attention to their behavior until they have already damaged their marriages, and sex is often the last sign that the marriage partner has been betrayed.







*...edit: this is a quote from the article I read...I'm not that eloquent...*
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Is it true?

Did you have an affair with a coworker? Know anyone who did?
I hate to say this but at my work place, married men are crapheads. Sleazy little foockers.

And to answer your question, no I haven't had an affair and won'tt. I don't believe in office friendships that involve the opposite sex. It screws up reputation and my work would never get the appreciation that it deserves.... I tried to be friends before, it never worked.
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Do you know if any of those married guys are having a work affair? or are they just creep'n in general.
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just LMAO @ corporate women.



srs



Just few months ago, I was in vegas working with some people... oh my God the married women are so out in the open. winking at me and chit. The one that really went over the top was this 50 something married woman... Kissed my face on the side... ok maybe it was cus i'm cute and i remind her of her son. but wait, i'm a chinaman just LOL



Then I get an e-mail from her the night I return at around midnight. My girl was like Who msged you at this hour? I be like it's a co-worker from Nevada. She grabs my phone and reads the e-mail...... it read

"blah blah.... email ends with I miss you already."



My girl was losing her mind thinking I had an affair. I didn't doe. but fuark i could've smashed that old rickety criticity bish if i wanted. 100%


Wow that's kinda forward of her. Over the top. Do you have a flirty personality?

Your going to have to be one of those people who has to bring up your relationship in every convo to signal that your not interested/its not gonna happen.
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Is it true?

Did you have an affair with a coworker? Know anyone who did?
I hate to say this but at my work place, married men are crapheads. Sleazy little foockers.

And to answer your question, no I haven't had an affair and won'tt. I don't believe in office friendships that involve the opposite sex. It screws up reputation and my work would never get the appreciation that it deserves.... I tried to be friends before, it never worked.
Do you know if any of those married guys are having a work affair? or are they just creep'n in general.

They are not getting any from our team, I know this for sure. But do they try? HeLL yes.

And apartment elevators. This is also a place where married men try to strike up a conversation by being sweet and gentlemanly.

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That elevator bit is giving me rapey vibes. Sexual harassment in a confined space, nightmare scenario.
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That's why I'm planning on being self-employed huehuehuehue
Because you fear the temptation of office romance?
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Actually, I don't think so.

If we are going by astrology, I have 2 placements (Pisces Venus, Aries Moon) which are supposedly red flags in terms of faithfulness. However, I find cheating unacceptable and would never cheat in a two-sided relationship.

Personally speaking, I'm still quite a few years away from getting a well-paid job, I wouldn't mind settling for a position in office if that meant stable income. As far as my options go, I'm still trying to figure out what I like doing.

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That's why I'm planning on being self-employed huehuehuehue
Because you fear the temptation of office romance?
Actually, I don't think so.

If we are going by astrology, I have 2 placements (Pisces Venus, Aries Moon) which are supposedly red flags in terms of faithfulness. However, I find cheating unacceptable and would never cheat in a two-sided relationship.

Personally speaking, I'm still quite a few years away from getting a well-paid job, I wouldn't mind settling for a position in office if that meant stable income. As far as my options go, I'm still trying to figure out what I like doing.



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That's why I found this article so interesting. Their saying that these individuals don't condone cheating and didn't go into the friendship with the intention of cheating.
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That's why I'm planning on being self-employed huehuehuehue
Because you fear the temptation of office romance?
Actually, I don't think so.

If we are going by astrology, I have 2 placements (Pisces Venus, Aries Moon) which are supposedly red flags in terms of faithfulness. However, I find cheating unacceptable and would never cheat in a two-sided relationship.

Personally speaking, I'm still quite a few years away from getting a well-paid job, I wouldn't mind settling for a position in office if that meant stable income. As far as my options go, I'm still trying to figure out what I like doing.




That's why I found this article so interesting. Their saying that these individuals don't condone cheating and didn't go into the friendship with the intention of cheating.


There are one or two surveys out there where most people who answered said they do not condone cheating but, if given the opportunity, say they would cheat on their relationship. More women said this than men, when asked.

I also read the work stat is going down (because there is less of an office work culture in recent years).

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That's definitely true of my work environment. I met with my boss on Wednesday for a recap on the week lunch and I'm meeting my irrigation drafter tonight for dinner meeting. Rest of the time I've been by my lonesome.

Just communicating by emails/text is enough.

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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
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the corporatre environment is actually very erotic: people wearing business dressing, hierarchical relationships, competition, etc...

plus it's a real contingent of people who spend most of their waking lives with each other, doing activities together.


I think those business trips can be compromising too. You meet for drinks at the hotel bar after the conference/whatever and 6 tequila shots later your stumbling into bed together.
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Happens all the time.

My ex-husband had an affair with a co-worker that was also married with children.
Wow so gross. Is that why he's now an ex? Or was it just the straw that broke the camels back...
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It was the start of it. The months leading up to me finding out, he was doing weird stuff with his cellphone. Changing his PW, angling the phone away from me, that kind of stuff. After a few months of this behavior, on Christmas Eve, I checked our cell phone records and saw the same number pop up over and over, and the nights he was "working late" he was on the phone with her for hours. Only time the calls/texts stopped was when he was out of town for work, and they were actually physically together since they worked on the same project. I confronted him on Christmas Eve, and he let it all out. I made him call her in front of me and tell her it was over, then I found her husband on facebook and let him know. After about a year of trying to make it work, and heavy fighting, we decided to part ways.

Edit: He is a Corporate Executive. So I would say that environment seems conducive to illicit affairs amongst co-workers.
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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
Your really think white collar males cheat more then blue collar? Interesting.
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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
Your really think white collar males cheat more then blue collar? Interesting.
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I have no idea....I do know men work with women far more than they did years ago and worked in manual labour



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Happens all the time.

My ex-husband had an affair with a co-worker that was also married with children.
Wow so gross. Is that why he's now an ex? Or was it just the straw that broke the camels back...
It was the start of it. The months leading up to me finding out, he was doing weird stuff with his cellphone. Changing his PW, angling the phone away from me, that kind of stuff. After a few months of this behavior, on Christmas Eve, I checked our cell phone records and saw the same number pop up over and over, and the nights he was "working late" he was on the phone with her for hours. Only time the calls/texts stopped was when he was out of town for work, and they were actually physically together since they worked on the same project. I confronted him on Christmas Eve, and he let it all out. I made him call her in front of me and tell her it was over, then I found her husband on facebook and let him know. After about a year of trying to make it work, and heavy fighting, we decided to part ways.

Edit: He is a Corporate Executive. So I would say that environment seems conducive to illicit affairs amongst co-workers.
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Damn, your strong as hell to stay and try to make it work.

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the corporatre environment is actually very erotic: people wearing business dressing, hierarchical relationships, competition, etc...

plus it's a real contingent of people who spend most of their waking lives with each other, doing activities together.


I think those business trips can be compromising too. You meet for drinks at the hotel bar after the conference/whatever and 6 tequila shots later your stumbling into bed together.
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you don't need tequila or business trips.

There's nothing as erotic as a slow burning sexual tension at the office daily
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the corporatre environment is actually very erotic: people wearing business dressing, hierarchical relationships, competition, etc...

plus it's a real contingent of people who spend most of their waking lives with each other, doing activities together.


I think those business trips can be compromising too. You meet for drinks at the hotel bar after the conference/whatever and 6 tequila shots later your stumbling into bed together.
you don't need tequila or business trips.

There's nothing as erotic as a slow burning sexual tension at the office daily
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True. But people need something to blame their actions on so they can feel good about themselves. "I would've never...but the alcohol made me..."
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Happens all the time.

My ex-husband had an affair with a co-worker that was also married with children.
Wow so gross. Is that why he's now an ex? Or was it just the straw that broke the camels back...
It was the start of it. The months leading up to me finding out, he was doing weird stuff with his cellphone. Changing his PW, angling the phone away from me, that kind of stuff. After a few months of this behavior, on Christmas Eve, I checked our cell phone records and saw the same number pop up over and over, and the nights he was "working late" he was on the phone with her for hours. Only time the calls/texts stopped was when he was out of town for work, and they were actually physically together since they worked on the same project. I confronted him on Christmas Eve, and he let it all out. I made him call her in front of me and tell her it was over, then I found her husband on facebook and let him know. After about a year of trying to make it work, and heavy fighting, we decided to part ways.

Edit: He is a Corporate Executive. So I would say that environment seems conducive to illicit affairs amongst co-workers.
Damn, your strong as hell to stay and try to make it work.

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She sure is one strong Scorpio woman ... Wow

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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
Your really think white collar males cheat more then blue collar? Interesting.
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I think white collar men cheat more. I think of it this way, you have men that are typically in the higher tiers in management. Usually executives, in a place of power. More often than not, they get smoke blown up their ass by all the people under them. They become overly egotistical, Most of these men start from no where, and they married their wives long before they held a power position. However, after they become more ego ridden and successful, they begin to think of themselves are "better" than their wives. Most of the spouses don't hold jobs nearly on the same level, for the sheer fact that most of them end up sacrificing parts of their dreams in order to allow the working hours the men need to reach those pinnacles in their career. It's the same for the women executives as well.
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Happens all the time.

My ex-husband had an affair with a co-worker that was also married with children.
Wow so gross. Is that why he's now an ex? Or was it just the straw that broke the camels back...
It was the start of it. The months leading up to me finding out, he was doing weird stuff with his cellphone. Changing his PW, angling the phone away from me, that kind of stuff. After a few months of this behavior, on Christmas Eve, I checked our cell phone records and saw the same number pop up over and over, and the nights he was "working late" he was on the phone with her for hours. Only time the calls/texts stopped was when he was out of town for work, and they were actually physically together since they worked on the same project. I confronted him on Christmas Eve, and he let it all out. I made him call her in front of me and tell her it was over, then I found her husband on facebook and let him know. After about a year of trying to make it work, and heavy fighting, we decided to part ways.

Edit: He is a Corporate Executive. So I would say that environment seems conducive to illicit affairs amongst co-workers.
Damn, your strong as hell to stay and try to make it work.


She sure is one strong Scorpio woman ... Wow

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I hold my son above anything else. I chose to think of his needs and wants above my own. I wanted him to have what I lacked growing up, a combined household.

Though it still didn't work, he at least got to see his parents together for 10 years before the split.
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Happens all the time.

My ex-husband had an affair with a co-worker that was also married with children.
Wow so gross. Is that why he's now an ex? Or was it just the straw that broke the camels back...
It was the start of it. The months leading up to me finding out, he was doing weird stuff with his cellphone. Changing his PW, angling the phone away from me, that kind of stuff. After a few months of this behavior, on Christmas Eve, I checked our cell phone records and saw the same number pop up over and over, and the nights he was "working late" he was on the phone with her for hours. Only time the calls/texts stopped was when he was out of town for work, and they were actually physically together since they worked on the same project. I confronted him on Christmas Eve, and he let it all out. I made him call her in front of me and tell her it was over, then I found her husband on facebook and let him know. After about a year of trying to make it work, and heavy fighting, we decided to part ways.

Edit: He is a Corporate Executive. So I would say that environment seems conducive to illicit affairs amongst co-workers.
Damn, your strong as hell to stay and try to make it work.


She sure is one strong Scorpio woman ... Wow


I hold my son above anything else. I chose to think of his needs and wants above my own. I wanted him to have what I lacked growing up, a combined household.

Though it still didn't work, he at least got to see his parents together for 10 years before the split.
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Well done

At least you put your son first before anything else. There are some women that put them last....disgusting for sure. You did the right thing
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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
Your really think white collar males cheat more then blue collar? Interesting.
I think white collar men cheat more. I think of it this way, you have men that are typically in the higher tiers in management. Usually executives, in a place of power. More often than not, they get smoke blown up their ass by all the people under them. They become overly egotistical, Most of these men start from no where, and they married their wives long before they held a power position. However, after they become more ego ridden and successful, they begin to think of themselves are "better" than their wives. Most of the spouses don't hold jobs nearly on the same level, for the sheer fact that most of them end up sacrificing parts of their dreams in order to allow the working hours the men need to reach those pinnacles in their career. It's the same for the women executives as well.

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Makes sense. There are certainly more men in blue collar fields then women which skews that men to women ratio.

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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
Your really think white collar males cheat more then blue collar? Interesting.
I think white collar men cheat more. I think of it this way, you have men that are typically in the higher tiers in management. Usually executives, in a place of power. More often than not, they get smoke blown up their ass by all the people under them. They become overly egotistical, Most of these men start from no where, and they married their wives long before they held a power position. However, after they become more ego ridden and successful, they begin to think of themselves are "better" than their wives. Most of the spouses don't hold jobs nearly on the same level, for the sheer fact that most of them end up sacrificing parts of their dreams in order to allow the working hours the men need to reach those pinnacles in their career. It's the same for the women executives as well.

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They have more opportunity .... ' sorry darling, I have to stay late at the office to shuffle some more papers'

My father was a manual worker....he was home at the same time every day to be with his family.

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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
Your really think white collar males cheat more then blue collar? Interesting.
I think white collar men cheat more. I think of it this way, you have men that are typically in the higher tiers in management. Usually executives, in a place of power. More often than not, they get smoke blown up their ass by all the people under them. They become overly egotistical, Most of these men start from no where, and they married their wives long before they held a power position. However, after they become more ego ridden and successful, they begin to think of themselves are "better" than their wives. Most of the spouses don't hold jobs nearly on the same level, for the sheer fact that most of them end up sacrificing parts of their dreams in order to allow the working hours the men need to reach those pinnacles in their career. It's the same for the women executives as well.


They have more opportunity .... ' sorry darling, I have to stay late at the office to shuffle some more papers'

My farther was a manual worker....he was home at the same time every day to be with his family.

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Yup.

For further reference, my ex was a "blue collar" when we first met. Played softball, drank beer, buzzed his hair off with clippers at home, surrounded by his family, and completely down to Earth He hated cheaters the entire time he was what I see as "normal" 6 years into our marriage, he took a promotion that had us move, and he began his rise up the corporate ladder. He now goes to my hair salon twice a month to get his hair style d, uses flat irons and blow dryers on his hair, has more high end hair and beard products than I do (he uses bumble and bumble), and currently uses a monthly clothing subscription service. I often hear him talk about how much better he thinks of himself over his family now.

The straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak, was the Marketing Executive he met on a flight on the way home from a business trip that I found out about. Girl #2

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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
Your really think white collar males cheat more then blue collar? Interesting.
I think white collar men cheat more. I think of it this way, you have men that are typically in the higher tiers in management. Usually executives, in a place of power. More often than not, they get smoke blown up their ass by all the people under them. They become overly egotistical, Most of these men start from no where, and they married their wives long before they held a power position. However, after they become more ego ridden and successful, they begin to think of themselves are "better" than their wives. Most of the spouses don't hold jobs nearly on the same level, for the sheer fact that most of them end up sacrificing parts of their dreams in order to allow the working hours the men need to reach those pinnacles in their career. It's the same for the women executives as well.


They have more opportunity .... ' sorry darling, I have to stay late at the office to shuffle some more papers'

My farther was a manual worker....he was home at the same time every day to be with his family.


Yup.

For further reference, my ex was a "blue collar" when we first met. Played softball, drank beer, buzzed his hair off with clippers at home, surrounded by his family, and completely down to Earth He hated cheaters the entire time he was what I see as "normal" 6 years into our marriage, he took a promotion that had us move, and he began his rise up the corporate ladder. He now goes to my hair salon twice a month to get his hair style d, uses flat irons and blow dryers on his hair, has more high end hair and beard products than I do (he uses bumble and bumble), and currently uses a monthly clothing subscription service. I often hear him talk about how much better he thinks of himself over his family now.

The straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak, was the Marketing Executive he met on a flight on the way home from a business trip that I found out about. Girl #2

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Yep they are the kind of spineless men I was referring to

You are well rid girl, he sounds like a wimp......Jesus Christ, what is up with these kind of men? Lol at flat irons 😐

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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
Your really think white collar males cheat more then blue collar? Interesting.
I think white collar men cheat more. I think of it this way, you have men that are typically in the higher tiers in management. Usually executives, in a place of power. More often than not, they get smoke blown up their ass by all the people under them. They become overly egotistical, Most of these men start from no where, and they married their wives long before they held a power position. However, after they become more ego ridden and successful, they begin to think of themselves are "better" than their wives. Most of the spouses don't hold jobs nearly on the same level, for the sheer fact that most of them end up sacrificing parts of their dreams in order to allow the working hours the men need to reach those pinnacles in their career. It's the same for the women executives as well.


They have more opportunity .... ' sorry darling, I have to stay late at the office to shuffle some more papers'

My farther was a manual worker....he was home at the same time every day to be with his family.


Yup.

For further reference, my ex was a "blue collar" when we first met. Played softball, drank beer, buzzed his hair off with clippers at home, surrounded by his family, and completely down to Earth He hated cheaters the entire time he was what I see as "normal" 6 years into our marriage, he took a promotion that had us move, and he began his rise up the corporate ladder. He now goes to my hair salon twice a month to get his hair style d, uses flat irons and blow dryers on his hair, has more high end hair and beard products than I do (he uses bumble and bumble), and currently uses a monthly clothing subscription service. I often hear him talk about how much better he thinks of himself over his family now.

The straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak, was the Marketing Executive he met on a flight on the way home from a business trip that I found out about. Girl #2




Yep they are the kind of spineless men I was referring to

You are well rid girl, he sounds like a wimp......Jesus Christ, what is up with these kind of men? Lol at flat irons 😐



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I laugh at him every time I see him use it. We are very good friends now, and that has more to do with my son than anything else. I pretty much troll him all the time about how he lost his manhood. lol

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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
Your really think white collar males cheat more then blue collar? Interesting.
I think white collar men cheat more. I think of it this way, you have men that are typically in the higher tiers in management. Usually executives, in a place of power. More often than not, they get smoke blown up their ass by all the people under them. They become overly egotistical, Most of these men start from no where, and they married their wives long before they held a power position. However, after they become more ego ridden and successful, they begin to think of themselves are "better" than their wives. Most of the spouses don't hold jobs nearly on the same level, for the sheer fact that most of them end up sacrificing parts of their dreams in order to allow the working hours the men need to reach those pinnacles in their career. It's the same for the women executives as well.


They have more opportunity .... ' sorry darling, I have to stay late at the office to shuffle some more papers'

My farther was a manual worker....he was home at the same time every day to be with his family.


Yup.

For further reference, my ex was a "blue collar" when we first met. Played softball, drank beer, buzzed his hair off with clippers at home, surrounded by his family, and completely down to Earth He hated cheaters the entire time he was what I see as "normal" 6 years into our marriage, he took a promotion that had us move, and he began his rise up the corporate ladder. He now goes to my hair salon twice a month to get his hair style d, uses flat irons and blow dryers on his hair, has more high end hair and beard products than I do (he uses bumble and bumble), and currently uses a monthly clothing subscription service. I often hear him talk about how much better he thinks of himself over his family now.

The straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak, was the Marketing Executive he met on a flight on the way home from a business trip that I found out about. Girl #2




Yep they are the kind of spineless men I was referring to

You are well rid girl, he sounds like a wimp......Jesus Christ, what is up with these kind of men? Lol at flat irons 😐




I laugh at him every time I see him use it. We are very good friends now, and that has more to do with my son than anything else. I pretty much troll him all the time about how he lost his manhood. lol

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Yes he did....lost it big time, what a turn off

Sad for your son as he would benefit from a father as strong male role model....

What sign is your ex and well done for being friends. You are one hell of a woman.

Take a gold star 🙂

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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
Your really think white collar males cheat more then blue collar? Interesting.
I think white collar men cheat more. I think of it this way, you have men that are typically in the higher tiers in management. Usually executives, in a place of power. More often than not, they get smoke blown up their ass by all the people under them. They become overly egotistical, Most of these men start from no where, and they married their wives long before they held a power position. However, after they become more ego ridden and successful, they begin to think of themselves are "better" than their wives. Most of the spouses don't hold jobs nearly on the same level, for the sheer fact that most of them end up sacrificing parts of their dreams in order to allow the working hours the men need to reach those pinnacles in their career. It's the same for the women executives as well.


They have more opportunity .... ' sorry darling, I have to stay late at the office to shuffle some more papers'

My farther was a manual worker....he was home at the same time every day to be with his family.


Yup.

For further reference, my ex was a "blue collar" when we first met. Played softball, drank beer, buzzed his hair off with clippers at home, surrounded by his family, and completely down to Earth He hated cheaters the entire time he was what I see as "normal" 6 years into our marriage, he took a promotion that had us move, and he began his rise up the corporate ladder. He now goes to my hair salon twice a month to get his hair style d, uses flat irons and blow dryers on his hair, has more high end hair and beard products than I do (he uses bumble and bumble), and currently uses a monthly clothing subscription service. I often hear him talk about how much better he thinks of himself over his family now.

The straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak, was the Marketing Executive he met on a flight on the way home from a business trip that I found out about. Girl #2




Yep they are the kind of spineless men I was referring to

You are well rid girl, he sounds like a wimp......Jesus Christ, what is up with these kind of men? Lol at flat irons 😐




I laugh at him every time I see him use it. We are very good friends now, and that has more to do with my son than anything else. I pretty much troll him all the time about how he lost his manhood. lol




Yes he did....lost it big time, what a turn off

Sad for your son as he would benefit from a father as strong male role model....

What sign is your ex and well done for being friends. You are one hell of a woman.

Take a gold star 🙂



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He was a Gemini.

But with me being a Scorpio, my son will probably end up manlier than his dad. HAHA

Like I always say, you have to love your kids, more than you hate your ex.
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Men aren't doing masculine jobs so much as they would years ago so they have more energy and opportunity to meet women

If they were doing manly physical work, this wouldn't happen so much

Pen pushing has been the demise of some men.....they are doing women's work and not channeling their energy as they should

Shiny shoes and moisturiser have replaced hard work and getting hands dirty

Sad
Your really think white collar males cheat more then blue collar? Interesting.
I think white collar men cheat more. I think of it this way, you have men that are typically in the higher tiers in management. Usually executives, in a place of power. More often than not, they get smoke blown up their ass by all the people under them. They become overly egotistical, Most of these men start from no where, and they married their wives long before they held a power position. However, after they become more ego ridden and successful, they begin to think of themselves are "better" than their wives. Most of the spouses don't hold jobs nearly on the same level, for the sheer fact that most of them end up sacrificing parts of their dreams in order to allow the working hours the men need to reach those pinnacles in their career. It's the same for the women executives as well.


They have more opportunity .... ' sorry darling, I have to stay late at the office to shuffle some more papers'

My farther was a manual worker....he was home at the same time every day to be with his family.


Yup.

For further reference, my ex was a "blue collar" when we first met. Played softball, drank beer, buzzed his hair off with clippers at home, surrounded by his family, and completely down to Earth He hated cheaters the entire time he was what I see as "normal" 6 years into our marriage, he took a promotion that had us move, and he began his rise up the corporate ladder. He now goes to my hair salon twice a month to get his hair style d, uses flat irons and blow dryers on his hair, has more high end hair and beard products than I do (he uses bumble and bumble), and currently uses a monthly clothing subscription service. I often hear him talk about how much better he thinks of himself over his family now.

The straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak, was the Marketing Executive he met on a flight on the way home from a business trip that I found out about. Girl #2




Yep they are the kind of spineless men I was referring to

You are well rid girl, he sounds like a wimp......Jesus Christ, what is up with these kind of men? Lol at flat irons 😐




I laugh at him every time I see him use it. We are very good friends now, and that has more to do with my son than anything else. I pretty much troll him all the time about how he lost his manhood. lol




Yes he did....lost it big time, what a turn off

Sad for your son as he would benefit from a father as strong male role model....

What sign is your ex and well done for being friends. You are one hell of a woman.

Take a gold star 🙂





He was a Gemini.

But with me being a Scorpio, my son will probably end up manlier than his dad. HAHA

Like I always say, you have to love your kids, more than you hate your ex.

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I like your style girl......of course he will be a stronger man, you will show him that. Yes, love for children above any negative feelings for sure
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just LMAO @ corporate women.



srs



Just few months ago, I was in vegas working with some people... oh my God the married women are so out in the open. winking at me and chit. The one that really went over the top was this 50 something married woman... Kissed my face on the side... ok maybe it was cus i'm cute and i remind her of her son. but wait, i'm a chinaman just LOL



Then I get an e-mail from her the night I return at around midnight. My girl was like Who msged you at this hour? I be like it's a co-worker from Nevada. She grabs my phone and reads the e-mail...... it read

"blah blah.... email ends with I miss you already."



My girl was losing her mind thinking I had an affair. I didn't doe. but fuark i could've smashed that old rickety criticity bish if i wanted. 100%


Why did you give her your email?
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Happens all the time.

My ex-husband had an affair with a co-worker that was also married with children.
Wow so gross. Is that why he's now an ex? Or was it just the straw that broke the camels back...
It was the start of it. The months leading up to me finding out, he was doing weird stuff with his cellphone. Changing his PW, angling the phone away from me, that kind of stuff. After a few months of this behavior, on Christmas Eve, I checked our cell phone records and saw the same number pop up over and over, and the nights he was "working late" he was on the phone with her for hours. Only time the calls/texts stopped was when he was out of town for work, and they were actually physically together since they worked on the same project. I confronted him on Christmas Eve, and he let it all out. I made him call her in front of me and tell her it was over, then I found her husband on facebook and let him know. After about a year of trying to make it work, and heavy fighting, we decided to part ways.

Edit: He is a Corporate Executive. So I would say that environment seems conducive to illicit affairs amongst co-workers.
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What have you lacked that he was looking for in other woman?

Hours in the phone doesn't happen in happy marriages.
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Happens all the time.

My ex-husband had an affair with a co-worker that was also married with children.
Wow so gross. Is that why he's now an ex? Or was it just the straw that broke the camels back...
It was the start of it. The months leading up to me finding out, he was doing weird stuff with his cellphone. Changing his PW, angling the phone away from me, that kind of stuff. After a few months of this behavior, on Christmas Eve, I checked our cell phone records and saw the same number pop up over and over, and the nights he was "working late" he was on the phone with her for hours. Only time the calls/texts stopped was when he was out of town for work, and they were actually physically together since they worked on the same project. I confronted him on Christmas Eve, and he let it all out. I made him call her in front of me and tell her it was over, then I found her husband on facebook and let him know. After about a year of trying to make it work, and heavy fighting, we decided to part ways.

Edit: He is a Corporate Executive. So I would say that environment seems conducive to illicit affairs amongst co-workers.
What have you lacked that he was looking for in other woman?

Hours in the phone doesn't happen in happy marriages.
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You are biased because of your current situation. You are actively in an adulterous relationship, which completely jades your perception on this particular subject. You would rather blame the women for not being good enough, then to actually look at it in a neutral way, and instead want to blame me, the wife, as lacking something. It had nothing to do with me, and everything to do with his perception of himself.

He was the one that felt like he was too good for me, because he was the one that thought he contributed more to our family. He was the one that became annoyed, that "his money" was being spent "unwisely", and that he was not able to "spend it the way he wanted" on superficial things. Because he delegated all of our household responsibilities solely to me, since he was out of town 2 weeks out of every month. I was the one left unable to work a full time position in order to take care of our toddler son, pay the bills, clean the home. I was forced to be a stay-at-home mom for years, eventhough my own aspirations were the same as his. We had long agreed not to have our son grow up like we did, shuffled from daycare to daycare, essentially raising ourselves. When he reached his pinnacle, it would then be my turn to reach for my dreams. He was the one that turned that agreement against me, and thought he was "too good" for me. He called me stupid a number of times in front of our son, because HE thought he was better. It had NOTHING to do with me lacking anything.

I reached those goals without him, after our divorce. And he now sees me as the women he fell in love with in the first place. The career minded woman, that is intelligent. He himself, lost sight of me. He himself realized that "his money" was budgeted well, and the bills that it took to maintain everything.

He was the one with the warped sense of worth, not me.
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Happens all the time.

My ex-husband had an affair with a co-worker that was also married with children.
Wow so gross. Is that why he's now an ex? Or was it just the straw that broke the camels back...
It was the start of it. The months leading up to me finding out, he was doing weird stuff with his cellphone. Changing his PW, angling the phone away from me, that kind of stuff. After a few months of this behavior, on Christmas Eve, I checked our cell phone records and saw the same number pop up over and over, and the nights he was "working late" he was on the phone with her for hours. Only time the calls/texts stopped was when he was out of town for work, and they were actually physically together since they worked on the same project. I confronted him on Christmas Eve, and he let it all out. I made him call her in front of me and tell her it was over, then I found her husband on facebook and let him know. After about a year of trying to make it work, and heavy fighting, we decided to part ways.

Edit: He is a Corporate Executive. So I would say that environment seems conducive to illicit affairs amongst co-workers.
What have you lacked that he was looking for in other woman?

Hours in the phone doesn't happen in happy marriages.
You are biased because of your current situation. You are actively in an adulterous relationship, which completely jades your perception on this particular subject. You would rather blame the women for not being good enough, then to actually look at it in a neutral way, and instead want to blame me, the wife, as lacking something. It had nothing to do with me, and everything to do with his perception of himself.

He was the one that felt like he was too good for me, because he was the one that thought he contributed more to our family. He was the one that became annoyed, that "his money" was being spent "unwisely", and that he was not able to "spend it the way he wanted" on superficial things. Because he delegated all of our household responsibilities solely to me, since he was out of town 2 weeks out of every month. I was the one left unable to work a full time position in order to take care of our toddler son, pay the bills, clean the home. I was forced to be a stay-at-home mom for years, eventhough my own aspirations were the same as his. We had long agreed not to have our son grow up like we did, shuffled from daycare to daycare, essentially raising ourselves. When he reached his pinnacle, it would then be my turn to reach for my dreams. He was the one that turned that agreement against me, and thought he was "too good" for me. He called me stupid a number of times in front of our son, because HE thought he was better. It had NOTHING to do with me lacking anything.

I reached those goals without him, after our divorce. And he now sees me as the women he fell in love with in the first place. The career minded woman, that is intelligent. He himself, lost sight of me. He himself realized that "his money" was budgeted well, and the bills that it took to maintain everything.

He was the one with the warped sense of worth, not me.

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YOU agreed to marry him!

I am sure no one is that perfect as you just described yourself. You seem have that attitude 'know it all thus holier than others'.

From thread to thread you are perfect!

Not buying it.
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Happens all the time.

My ex-husband had an affair with a co-worker that was also married with children.
Wow so gross. Is that why he's now an ex? Or was it just the straw that broke the camels back...
It was the start of it. The months leading up to me finding out, he was doing weird stuff with his cellphone. Changing his PW, angling the phone away from me, that kind of stuff. After a few months of this behavior, on Christmas Eve, I checked our cell phone records and saw the same number pop up over and over, and the nights he was "working late" he was on the phone with her for hours. Only time the calls/texts stopped was when he was out of town for work, and they were actually physically together since they worked on the same project. I confronted him on Christmas Eve, and he let it all out. I made him call her in front of me and tell her it was over, then I found her husband on facebook and let him know. After about a year of trying to make it work, and heavy fighting, we decided to part ways.

Edit: He is a Corporate Executive. So I would say that environment seems conducive to illicit affairs amongst co-workers.
What have you lacked that he was looking for in other woman?

Hours in the phone doesn't happen in happy marriages.
You are biased because of your current situation. You are actively in an adulterous relationship, which completely jades your perception on this particular subject. You would rather blame the women for not being good enough, then to actually look at it in a neutral way, and instead want to blame me, the wife, as lacking something. It had nothing to do with me, and everything to do with his perception of himself.

He was the one that felt like he was too good for me, because he was the one that thought he contributed more to our family. He was the one that became annoyed, that "his money" was being spent "unwisely", and that he was not able to "spend it the way he wanted" on superficial things. Because he delegated all of our household responsibilities solely to me, since he was out of town 2 weeks out of every month. I was the one left unable to work a full time position in order to take care of our toddler son, pay the bills, clean the home. I was forced to be a stay-at-home mom for years, eventhough my own aspirations were the same as his. We had long agreed not to have our son grow up like we did, shuffled from daycare to daycare, essentially raising ourselves. When he reached his pinnacle, it would then be my turn to reach for my dreams. He was the one that turned that agreement against me, and thought he was "too good" for me. He called me stupid a number of times in front of our son, because HE thought he was better. It had NOTHING to do with me lacking anything.

I reached those goals without him, after our divorce. And he now sees me as the women he fell in love with in the first place. The career minded woman, that is intelligent. He himself, lost sight of me. He himself realized that "his money" was budgeted well, and the bills that it took to maintain everything.

He was the one with the warped sense of worth, not me.


YOU agreed to marry him!

I am sure no one is that perfect as you just described yourself. You seem have that attitude 'know it all thus holier than others'.

From thread to thread you are perfect!

Not buying it.
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Who said anything about being perfect? Perfection doesn't exist. Humans are fallible. Deflecting and trying to state that I stated I was perfect is just a means for you to try and condone what you are actively doing. What I stated was actual verbiage my ex-husband used directly to me, when we spoke during our AMICABLE divorce. Cause you know, people can have amicable divorces without attorneys.

However, I am black and white when it comes to what I perceive as right and wrong. Sleeping with a married individual is one of those things I find wrong. Period, point blank to me.

If an individual is unhappy in a relationship for their own reasons, then that person has the responsibility to verbalize that to their partner. Or to leave if the relationship is not living up to what they want. You aren't being forced to stay in a marriage. And guess what? He agreed to marry me too. It was a decision BOTH of us agreed to. Not just I.

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Happens all the time.

My ex-husband had an affair with a co-worker that was also married with children.
Wow so gross. Is that why he's now an ex? Or was it just the straw that broke the camels back...
It was the start of it. The months leading up to me finding out, he was doing weird stuff with his cellphone. Changing his PW, angling the phone away from me, that kind of stuff. After a few months of this behavior, on Christmas Eve, I checked our cell phone records and saw the same number pop up over and over, and the nights he was "working late" he was on the phone with her for hours. Only time the calls/texts stopped was when he was out of town for work, and they were actually physically together since they worked on the same project. I confronted him on Christmas Eve, and he let it all out. I made him call her in front of me and tell her it was over, then I found her husband on facebook and let him know. After about a year of trying to make it work, and heavy fighting, we decided to part ways.

Edit: He is a Corporate Executive. So I would say that environment seems conducive to illicit affairs amongst co-workers.
What have you lacked that he was looking for in other woman?

Hours in the phone doesn't happen in happy marriages.
You are biased because of your current situation. You are actively in an adulterous relationship, which completely jades your perception on this particular subject. You would rather blame the women for not being good enough, then to actually look at it in a neutral way, and instead want to blame me, the wife, as lacking something. It had nothing to do with me, and everything to do with his perception of himself.

He was the one that felt like he was too good for me, because he was the one that thought he contributed more to our family. He was the one that became annoyed, that "his money" was being spent "unwisely", and that he was not able to "spend it the way he wanted" on superficial things. Because he delegated all of our household responsibilities solely to me, since he was out of town 2 weeks out of every month. I was the one left unable to work a full time position in order to take care of our toddler son, pay the bills, clean the home. I was forced to be a stay-at-home mom for years, eventhough my own aspirations were the same as his. We had long agreed not to have our son grow up like we did, shuffled from daycare to daycare, essentially raising ourselves. When he reached his pinnacle, it would then be my turn to reach for my dreams. He was the one that turned that agreement against me, and thought he was "too good" for me. He called me stupid a number of times in front of our son, because HE thought he was better. It had NOTHING to do with me lacking anything.

I reached those goals without him, after our divorce. And he now sees me as the women he fell in love with in the first place. The career minded woman, that is intelligent. He himself, lost sight of me. He himself realized that "his money" was budgeted well, and the bills that it took to maintain everything.

He was the one with the warped sense of worth, not me.


YOU agreed to marry him!

I am sure no one is that perfect as you just described yourself. You seem have that attitude 'know it all thus holier than others'.

From thread to thread you are perfect!

Not buying it.
Who said anything about being perfect? Perfection doesn't exist. Humans are fallible. Deflecting and trying to state that I stated I was perfect is just a means for you to try and condone what you are actively doing. What I stated was actual verbiage my ex-husband used directly to me, when we spoke during our AMICABLE divorce. Cause you know, people can have amicable divorces without attorneys.

However, I am black and white when it comes to what I perceive as right and wrong. Sleeping with a married individual is one of those things I find wrong. Period, point blank to me.

If an individual is unhappy in a relationship for their own reasons, then that person has the responsibility to verbalize that to their partner. Or to leave if the relationship is not living up to what they want. You aren't being forced to stay in a marriage. And guess what? He agreed to marry me too. It was a decision BOTH of us agreed to. Not just I.

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I know that he would be happiest man alive if his wife have a shit about him.

All he wants is his family!

And when I told him to try and reconciliate he called me in a whole week to tell me that everything is going to remain as it is!

I've never asked if this is because of me or her being non responsive to the trial of getting back together.

No one gets divorce because everyone is used to be comfortable. And for divorce something drastic must happen.

No one leaves family's of 25 years for unknown...
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I know that he would be happiest man alive if his wife have a shit about him.

All he wants is his family!

And when I told him to try and reconciliate he called me in a whole week to tell me that everything is going to remain as it is!

I've never asked if this is because of me or her being non responsive to the trial of getting back together.

No one gets divorce because everyone is used to be comfortable. And for divorce something drastic must happen.

No one leaves family's of 25 years for unknown...
Hey, that's your life. I do not pay your bills, I do not contribute anything that directly impacts your life. What I think of your current situation is moot, and shouldn't mean anything to you.

If that is the life you wish to lead, go for it.
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Happens all the time.

My ex-husband had an affair with a co-worker that was also married with children.
Wow so gross. Is that why he's now an ex? Or was it just the straw that broke the camels back...
It was the start of it. The months leading up to me finding out, he was doing weird stuff with his cellphone. Changing his PW, angling the phone away from me, that kind of stuff. After a few months of this behavior, on Christmas Eve, I checked our cell phone records and saw the same number pop up over and over, and the nights he was "working late" he was on the phone with her for hours. Only time the calls/texts stopped was when he was out of town for work, and they were actually physically together since they worked on the same project. I confronted him on Christmas Eve, and he let it all out. I made him call her in front of me and tell her it was over, then I found her husband on facebook and let him know. After about a year of trying to make it work, and heavy fighting, we decided to part ways.

Edit: He is a Corporate Executive. So I would say that environment seems conducive to illicit affairs amongst co-workers.
What have you lacked that he was looking for in other woman?

Hours in the phone doesn't happen in happy marriages.
You are biased because of your current situation. You are actively in an adulterous relationship, which completely jades your perception on this particular subject. You would rather blame the women for not being good enough, then to actually look at it in a neutral way, and instead want to blame me, the wife, as lacking something. It had nothing to do with me, and everything to do with his perception of himself.

He was the one that felt like he was too good for me, because he was the one that thought he contributed more to our family. He was the one that became annoyed, that "his money" was being spent "unwisely", and that he was not able to "spend it the way he wanted" on superficial things. Because he delegated all of our household responsibilities solely to me, since he was out of town 2 weeks out of every month. I was the one left unable to work a full time position in order to take care of our toddler son, pay the bills, clean the home. I was forced to be a stay-at-home mom for years, eventhough my own aspirations were the same as his. We had long agreed not to have our son grow up like we did, shuffled from daycare to daycare, essentially raising ourselves. When he reached his pinnacle, it would then be my turn to reach for my dreams. He was the one that turned that agreement against me, and thought he was "too good" for me. He called me stupid a number of times in front of our son, because HE thought he was better. It had NOTHING to do with me lacking anything.

I reached those goals without him, after our divorce. And he now sees me as the women he fell in love with in the first place. The career minded woman, that is intelligent. He himself, lost sight of me. He himself realized that "his money" was budgeted well, and the bills that it took to maintain everything.

He was the one with the warped sense of worth, not me.


YOU agreed to marry him!

I am sure no one is that perfect as you just described yourself. You seem have that attitude 'know it all thus holier than others'.

From thread to thread you are perfect!

Not buying it.
Who said anything about being perfect? Perfection doesn't exist. Humans are fallible. Deflecting and trying to state that I stated I was perfect is just a means for you to try and condone what you are actively doing. What I stated was actual verbiage my ex-husband used directly to me, when we spoke during our AMICABLE divorce. Cause you know, people can have amicable divorces without attorneys.

However, I am black and white when it comes to what I perceive as right and wrong. Sleeping with a married individual is one of those things I find wrong. Period, point blank to me.

If an individual is unhappy in a relationship for their own reasons, then that person has the responsibility to verbalize that to their partner. Or to leave if the relationship is not living up to what they want. You aren't being forced to stay in a marriage. And guess what? He agreed to marry me too. It was a decision BOTH of us agreed to. Not just I.


I know that he would be happiest man alive if his wife have a shit about him.

All he wants is his family!

And when I told him to try and reconciliate he called me in a whole week to tell me that everything is going to remain as it is!

I've never asked if this is because of me or her being non responsive to the trial of getting back together.

No one gets divorce because everyone is used to be comfortable. And for divorce something drastic must happen.

No one leaves family's of 25 years for unknown...
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I read that people don't get divorced for infidelity. #1 reason is finances.

Money talks loudest I guess.
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