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Posted by Montgomery
Posted by lisabethur8edit
thinking on this.....war is a "SYMBOLIC" image....the bombing is a symbolism. and conquering.like placing a brand on an animal's skin, "this is mine! territory" and i'll eat the cattle when and where I want.
because symbolisms have nothing to do with feelings and thinking of human lives.
And everything to do with Power.
It requires no translation-- its understood
universally.
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yeah I don't like it.
Posted by blackmoon
Posted by Deedee86
https://www.google.com/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/going-name-son-donald-trump-says-survivor-assad-chemical-attack/amp/You realize this is newspaper article that could have been altered or censored right
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Exactly. I don't trust any of these sources...for or against. I was just trying to show the different slants to the story and that's the first one I posted.
I don't have a strong opinion because I don't have all the facts.
The thought of innocent people being poisoned is sickening. The thought of them being bombed is sickening.
Posted by blackmoon
Posted by Deedee86
Posted by blackmoon
Posted by Deedee86
https://www.google.com/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/going-name-son-donald-trump-says-survivor-assad-chemical-attack/amp/You realize this is newspaper article that could have been altered or censored right
Exactly. I don't trust any of these sources...for or against. I was just trying to show the different slants to the story and that's the first one I posted.
I don't have a strong opinion because I don't have all the facts.
The thought of innocent people being poisoned is sickening. The thought of them being bombed is sickening.
Yeah basically reading off a newspaper article that could have been manipulated, its not a trustworthy source. Newspapers are making trump appear in a good light, but we dont know if thats what really happened or if those were the intentions
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We don't know anything
We never have. For decades, the government and media have been manipulating the people. We can only speculate on the motives.
Posted by sultrykitty
It was a military air base not an aspirin factory (oops! ), no civilians killed. If we wanted to bomb the shit out of Syria, we would have.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/donald-trump-launches-us-air-strikes-against-assad-regime-syria/ "US missile strikes on a Syrian air base have reportedly killed nine civilians - including four children - as Donald Trump launched the first direct American attack on Bashar Assad's regime."
Your statement is slightly arrogant, you think you are better for having a bigger militar capacity?
If governments wanted the end of terrorism they would just stop financiating terrorists instead of banning refugees and bombing their countries. Just saying
Posted by Blackburn
Posted by sultrykitty
It was a military air base not an aspirin factory (oops! ), no civilians killed. If we wanted to bomb the shit out of Syria, we would have.----
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/donald-trump-launches-us-air-strikes-against-assad-regime-syria/ "US missile strikes on a Syrian air base have reportedly killed nine civilians - including four children - as Donald Trump launched the first direct American attack on Bashar Assad's regime."
Your statement is slightly arrogant, you think you are better for having a bigger militar capacity?
If governments wanted the end of terrorism they would just stop financiating terrorists instead of banning refugees and bombing their countries. Just saying
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Yeah... remember when Jordan was banning
refugees?
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
Posted by YasmineMin
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Posted by sultrykitty
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
Posted by rabidtalker
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
You do realize the leader of the world angela merkel is a cancer right.Never heard of a libra leader. Yall too busy getting butt sexed
Putin is a libra.
Oh no wonder he rides horses shirtless like he's vying for single men on Humpr.
What's his moon, that dude is cold
Gemini moon.
Not cold enough but helps with thinking and logic
Does the guy have aqua anywhere or cap
What's his rising
Why does everyone keep saying Aquarius are cold? Aquarius is humanitarian!!!! They are literally the definition of protests, caring for lower class people, and promoting equality. Jesus was an Aquarius moon! The great leaders of history have Aquarius placements. Putin, Hitler, and Trump are cold hearted but no Aquarius
The leader of my country is an Aquarius. He's cold and charming
Killer
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they are cold blooded!! like a reptile.
but if they have water and fire....they are sweet and lovable.
so ....I doubt the leader is a watery person. but I can see scorpio moon!! they can be the worst or the best.
JK Rowling had Voldmort as Capricorn sun/Scorpio moon....cold blooded.
JK Rowling had all the characters down good!!!
Draco Malfoy was a mean bully.....Gemini sun/Aquarius moon.
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
Posted by YasmineMin
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Posted by sultrykitty
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
Posted by rabidtalker
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
You do realize the leader of the world angela merkel is a cancer right.Never heard of a libra leader. Yall too busy getting butt sexed
Putin is a libra.
Oh no wonder he rides horses shirtless like he's vying for single men on Humpr.
What's his moon, that dude is cold
Gemini moon.
Not cold enough but helps with thinking and logic
Does the guy have aqua anywhere or cap
What's his rising
Why does everyone keep saying Aquarius are cold? Aquarius is humanitarian!!!! They are literally the definition of protests, caring for lower class people, and promoting equality. Jesus was an Aquarius moon! The great leaders of history have Aquarius placements. Putin, Hitler, and Trump are cold hearted but no Aquarius
The leader of my country is an Aquarius. He's cold and charming
Killer
they are cold blooded!! like a reptile.
but if they have water and fire....they are sweet and lovable.
so ....I doubt the leader is a watery person. but I can see scorpio moon!! they can be the worst or the best.
JK Rowling had Voldmort as Capricorn sun/Scorpio moon....cold blooded.
I think because of their fixed energy they think what they're doing is right.
I don't know but the leader of my birth country is a piece of sh6t.
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usually strong leaders have CARDINAL in their chart....like Hitler...
who is the aquarius... I wanna see his chart.
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
America would love any excuse to bomb Syria into 1325.Like they did iraq ands Libya
What gets me is how Republicans who are always complaining about the budget allowing this. Talk about hypocrites
Some republicans denounced it and some democrats praised the action. I don't trust any of them. There are always ulterior motives and backdoor deals. As soon as Chuck Schumer came out in support of it, I got suspicious. Mr Sketchy Schumer is the king of bullshit.
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
Posted by ChrisIsKodak
Posted by VivaciousScorpio
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Posted by heliumfiasco
Makes my absolutely self absorbed problems seem laughable. ❤️ To the Syrian people. The human race is disgusting.
They were gassing kids....
The west have been funding the insurgents for years to destabilise the land.
Disgusting really, you guys aren't swooping in to save the day.
Um. Who's base was that?
Russia.
So why should we get total blanket blame is all I'm saying.
Russians are worse. I'm glad we hit them
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Putin sounds really scary.
wow Stellium Libra!! 4 planets in Libra.
moon in Gemini, mars sag, venus scorpio.
Posted by sultrykitty
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
Posted by rabidtalker
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
You do realize the leader of the world angela merkel is a cancer right.Never heard of a libra leader. Yall too busy getting butt sexed
Putin is a libra.
Oh no wonder he rides horses shirtless like he's vying for single men on Humpr.
What's his moon, that dude is cold
Gemini moon.
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with too much air, stellium and a Gemini moon....
even his two scorpio placements act like an extreme scorpio moon!! cruel on the evil side.
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by Blackburn
Posted by sultrykitty
It was a military air base not an aspirin factory (oops! ), no civilians killed. If we wanted to bomb the shit out of Syria, we would have.----
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/donald-trump-launches-us-air-strikes-against-assad-regime-syria/ "US missile strikes on a Syrian air base have reportedly killed nine civilians - including four children - as Donald Trump launched the first direct American attack on Bashar Assad's regime."
Your statement is slightly arrogant, you think you are better for having a bigger militar capacity?
If governments wanted the end of terrorism they would just stop financiating terrorists instead of banning refugees and bombing their countries. Just saying
Yeah... remember when Jordan was banning
refugees?
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What I'm critizising is the hypocrisy behind these military attacks. The US (and Europe etc.) dgaf about Syrians, but still pretend they do.
I am not aware of every political issue, but I think there are more Syrian refugees in Jordan than in the US. If Jordan bans refugees is for the same reason every country does, to protect themselves from possible terrorist attacks, interests etc.
Is this more selfish than what the US does, why? Jordan is a neighbor country, yes, but the US has a lot more capacity to fight back.
Assuming things are as reported (the chemical attack was done by Assad and not a false flag), I can accept this action.
Both Syria and Russia were warned, the strike was a military target from which the chemical munitions were deliverd (Assad has gassed his own people in the past), and the strike was not to "take out" Assad but send a message.
As long as things don't progress into the US being embroiled in another countries civil war (all the bad actors in the US would love to do this ala "take out Assad"), I'm ok with what happened.
ISIS is an Obama/Clinton creation that was being used as a tool to take out Assad for whatever purpose. But that's a whole other topic that no one has wanted to talk about.
This goes beyond republican or democrat. Hilary Clinton called for the strikes as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN179058
Posted by bricklemark
Posted by heliumfiasco
I'm not saying anything about being for, or against going into Syria. I fear for the people from their own government and ours. I feel for anyone living in a war torn country. I'm simply saying that what Syria is experiencing on all levels, beyond political agenda is disgusting. They are in my thoughts. I'm sick of killing people, for killing people. I'm sick of society and human savagery.
Its a freakin false flag....and Bibi uses chemical weapons on Gaza, so none of it even makes sense. It's just evil. And evil will always prevail.
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Nope, sorry. "Good will succumb evil."
Isaiah 5:20 Woes to the Wicked
…19Who say, "Let Him make speed, let Him hasten His work, that we may see it; And let the purpose of the Holy One of Israel draw near And come to pass, that we may know it!" 20Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! 21Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!…
🤗 cyber hugs!
Love,
Eva
Once again, because I feel like people do not listen to what my intent was. Dropping 50 Tomahawk missles on anything is pretty much bombing something the fuck up. I didn't say anyone was dead.
My post was not about the politics of it, but my heart feeling for the people of Syria, and how my first world problems are nothing compared to what is going on with the people of Syria, and other war torn countries.
I don't give a fuck about Trump or Putin or any other assholes, or the politics. My point was humans are savage AF, and the innocent people affected by this are in my thoughts. It puts shit in perspective.
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
Posted by blackmoon
I think it's kind of disrespectful to talk about it so casualIy like innocent lives are been taken away.. to take away the problem, they need to target the real issue and the armed, not the harmless civilians who have done nothing wrong.. should be a meaning behind this, either a political/economic gain
How come America won't take refugees from places they have bombed. Hmmmmmm. They won't take Syrian refugees but they're okay with engaging in war
Syria problem was started by Hillary and Susan rice like they started in Libya, but Obama had to take a step back, but those rebels were funded by the state department, weapons are american
This all goes back to bad american policy.
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I know very little about politics....And I didnt read every single comment in this thread, but this one here, the very first sentence, my exact thoughts when I heard about this this morning..He wanted nothing to do with the refugees, but he dropping bombs on um?
Posted by Impulsv
Just read staff were warned n nothing really damagedEquipment was damaged yet the landing strip still able to service
Political theater
Plus if russians weren't forewarned they would have shot down missiles but didn't happen
Just putting this out there
Media and dems demand investigation into Putin ties to Trump campaign
Then a big public air strike on Syria that "outrages" Russia
Publicly they are not in cahoots anymore.
I don't hide the fact that I voted for Trump but I'm not a blind follower of anyone nor do I trust any politician.
Posted by Blackburn
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by Blackburn
Posted by sultrykitty
It was a military air base not an aspirin factory (oops! ), no civilians killed. If we wanted to bomb the shit out of Syria, we would have.----
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/donald-trump-launches-us-air-strikes-against-assad-regime-syria/ "US missile strikes on a Syrian air base have reportedly killed nine civilians - including four children - as Donald Trump launched the first direct American attack on Bashar Assad's regime."
Your statement is slightly arrogant, you think you are better for having a bigger militar capacity?
If governments wanted the end of terrorism they would just stop financiating terrorists instead of banning refugees and bombing their countries. Just saying
Yeah... remember when Jordan was banning
refugees?
----
What I'm critizising is the hypocrisy behind these military attacks. The US (and Europe etc.) dgaf about Syrians, but still pretend they do.
I am not aware of every political issue, but I think there are more Syrian refugees in Jordan than in the US. If Jordan bans refugees is for the same reason every country does, to protect themselves from possible terrorist attacks, interests etc.
Is this more selfish than what the US does, why? Jordan is a neighbor country, yes, but the US has a lot more capacity to fight back.
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It may have been the Palestinians that were
barred from entering, at that time-- because
they would have had less claim to Israel iirc.
(Never mind that these people had lives and
wives that needed to be taken care of in the
present... )
*More* selfish, in this context, is kind of a silly
question, when they are all quite selfish...
don't you think?
There are no varying degrees of dead.
I pray to God that we go to war so we can send all these trump fanatics and/or their kids off to get blown to bits 🙂
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by Blackburn
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by Blackburn
Posted by sultrykitty
It was a military air base not an aspirin factory (oops! ), no civilians killed. If we wanted to bomb the shit out of Syria, we would have.----
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/donald-trump-launches-us-air-strikes-against-assad-regime-syria/ "US missile strikes on a Syrian air base have reportedly killed nine civilians - including four children - as Donald Trump launched the first direct American attack on Bashar Assad's regime."
Your statement is slightly arrogant, you think you are better for having a bigger militar capacity?
If governments wanted the end of terrorism they would just stop financiating terrorists instead of banning refugees and bombing their countries. Just saying
Yeah... remember when Jordan was banning
refugees?
----
What I'm critizising is the hypocrisy behind these military attacks. The US (and Europe etc.) dgaf about Syrians, but still pretend they do.
I am not aware of every political issue, but I think there are more Syrian refugees in Jordan than in the US. If Jordan bans refugees is for the same reason every country does, to protect themselves from possible terrorist attacks, interests etc.
Is this more selfish than what the US does, why? Jordan is a neighbor country, yes, but the US has a lot more capacity to fight back.
It may have been the Palestinians that were
barred from entering, at that time-- because
they would have had less claim to Israel iirc.
(Never mind that these people had lives and
wives that needed to be taken care of in the
present... )
*More* selfish, in this context, is kind of a silly
question, when they are all quite selfish...
don't you think?
There are no varying degrees of dead.
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It was rhetoric, I didn't saw the point of bringing up Jordan because I was talking about the US.
each tomahawk missile estimated to cost around $ 1million. 59 fired, so ~ $ 60million.
Posted by Distilled
Posted by bricklemark
Posted by ChrisIsKodak
Posted by heliumfiasco
Makes my absolutely self absorbed problems seem laughable. ❤️ To the Syrian people. The human race is disgusting.
They were gassing kids....
Just more lies to use as an excuse to bomb the place and take over...idiot.
Does Syria have a world bank?
Cuz Cuba didn't.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-10/guess-how-many-nations-world-do-not-have-central-bank
This is an interesting article.
It doesn't say anything for Syria, and the data on internet are so messy regarding that, that it's hard to get to the truth.
But this article nicely explains the system.
https://www.neweurope.eu/article/americas-true-role-syria/
Another good article, bit dated, but nevertheless, valid.
Posted by ChrisIsKodak
You know...Syria could have easily turned around and used those illegal chemical torture bombs in the west, and you guys would be singing a different tune.
I don't even care for Trump or politics. It's like religion to me. Everyone gets narrow minded and preachy without looking at the bigger picture.
See this is my fear. Even if the air strike was justified (imo it wasn't but for argument sake...). The fallout whether it happens now or years from now, isn't gonna be pretty. Aggression will always follow aggression.
Give it another 10 years. The young people growing up with memories of the west killing their friends and family. We're gonna have Syrian suicide bombers blowing up our trains and planes and schools.
Posted by rabidtalker
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-how-much-it-will-cost-to-replace-the-tomahawks-used-in-syria-2017-04-07each tomahawk missile estimated to cost around $ 1million. 59 fired, so ~ $ 60million.
But it's okay cause trump donanted his salary and cut off funding to pbs. Right guys? ?
Posted by ChrisIsKodak
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by ChrisIsKodak
You know...Syria could have easily turned around and used those illegal chemical torture bombs in the west, and you guys would be singing a different tune.
I don't even care for Trump or politics. It's like religion to me. Everyone gets narrow minded and preachy without looking at the bigger picture.
See this is my fear. Even if the air strike was justified (imo it wasn't but for argument sake...). The fallout whether it happens now or years from now, isn't gonna be pretty. Aggression will always follow aggression.
Give it another 10 years. The young people growing up with memories of the west killing their friends and family. We're gonna have Syrian suicide bombers blowing up our trains and planes and schools.
Syrian bombers, for attacking the base that blew their family up? That doesn't make sense.
Now if we directly bomb their townsfolk. Ok, understandable.
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Aren't reports now saying that there was casualties on the base, some of them kids? Those people are pissed for sure.
Posted by ChrisIsKodak
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by ChrisIsKodak
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by ChrisIsKodak
You know...Syria could have easily turned around and used those illegal chemical torture bombs in the west, and you guys would be singing a different tune.
I don't even care for Trump or politics. It's like religion to me. Everyone gets narrow minded and preachy without looking at the bigger picture.
See this is my fear. Even if the air strike was justified (imo it wasn't but for argument sake...). The fallout whether it happens now or years from now, isn't gonna be pretty. Aggression will always follow aggression.
Give it another 10 years. The young people growing up with memories of the west killing their friends and family. We're gonna have Syrian suicide bombers blowing up our trains and planes and schools.
Syrian bombers, for attacking the base that blew their family up? That doesn't make sense.
Now if we directly bomb their townsfolk. Ok, understandable.
Aren't reports now saying that there was casualties on the base, some of them kids? Those people are pissed for sure.
I have no idea, maybe.
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Well my point is that in the cycle of violence the victim becomes the abuser.
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
I think this treetrunker Trump is doing anything to keep the conversation off his ties to Russia and they got the bastard JUDGE that works for the corporate world by nuclear option. nobody is talking about sheet that impacts us, Smart move
That's right
Wag the dog
People think they are so slick.
I can't with so many lies.
It definitely adds another layer of disgust to steep so low.
"NO REFUGEES ALLOWED!"
"But...but the poor innocent children!"
*BOMBS them*
"NO REFUGEES!"
U.S. Government hypocrisy at its finest.
Where is the solidarity? Where are the #prayforsyria hashtags or that stupid option to change your social media Avi to the Syrian flag in show of support?
First time i've shed a tear in a long while...I cant stand what they did to the children...I should have been there!!!!
I just read the news this morning...Russia is sending warships to the U.S. 😢
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-sends-warships-toward-u-194923682.html
Posted by Fun4Life
BREAKING.....this could get serious - or it could be a head fake by Putin.A Russian warship entered the eastern Mediterranean Friday and was heading toward the area where two U.S. Navy destroyers launched missile strikes into Syria, Fox News has learned.
The Russian frigate, Admiral Grigorovich RFS-494, crossed through the Bosphorus Strait “a few hours ago” from the Black Sea, according to a U.S. defense official.
The Russian warship is now in the eastern Mediterranean steaming in the direction of the U.S. warships.
The Admiral Grigorovich is armed with advanced Kalibr cruise missiles.
Also Friday, one of the American destroyers that launched the missiles into Syria started heading to an undisclosed location to rearm.
The U.S. struck a Syrian airbase in retaliation for this week's gruesome chemical weapons attack against civilians, including infants and small children, military officials said.
The frigate was bound for the Syrian port of Tartus on a routine voyage, the Russian news agency TASS reported Friday, citing a military-diplomatic source.
"The Russian ship armed with cruise missiles Kalibr will visit the logistics base in Tartus, Syria," the source said, according to TASS.
The ship was currently near the Blact Sea straits, Tass reported. The ship left on a voyage after stopping at Novorossiisk for supplies and taking part in a joint exercise with Turkish ships in the Black Sea.
this was news yesterday?
I think it is a warning.
I really don't understand why they bombed Syria. it doesn't make any sense.
so I looked it up...
that video sent me to tears above. that was really graphic and awful...
this guy seems to make a joke of it...and goes back to the mistakes of what the US did...
and I notice the youtube commenters were easy on him calling him very young and immature...
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Bombasticbuster6 hours ago
Paul, with all due respect you are still young. Yes, smart, creative , informed, but still young. Life sometimes doesnt give many choices and I think that Trump had no choice. He would have been condemned had he done nothing. So, when do we reverse the bs that Obama started? Not war, but at least some stability in the region. I think time will tell that this was the proper action. Still a big fan, keep up the good work.
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And everything to do with Power.
It requires no translation-- its understood
universally.