@Enfant-Terrible-II
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What kind of fucking times do we live in
Right even taco bell canceled their best menu items. Crazy times man.
Meanwhile the world is busy fretting about a bunch of clowns on the far right as the greatest threat we face today. Srsly 😂
Does she have daddy issues?
these people have a very malleable morality, they'll pretend lolita or anything even more controversial must be considered "a work of art" and totally acceptable when it suits their agendas, but they'll weaponize it against anybody they don't like and want to smear.
Plus the fact that everything nowadays has to follow america's two-way politics and america is retarded beyond belief
Later in the Live, a fan said, "Please tell me you don't romanticize Lolita," to which Madison responded, "I definitely do, but we're not going to talk about that."
This is the controversial statement and I'm sure neither person involved even has an idea what"romanticizing" means
It's just a moment in time, one that's not much different then the older generations. Specifically the one before boomers. Back when speaking out and being loud was outrageous, yet the times were still fucked in every way nonetheless. Eventually we will be used to cancel culture and censorship. Once we are old af being outrageous and rebellious will be the cool thing again, and we will think that the world is ending because of it. Simply put its just generations doing the complete opposite things their elders did because to most kids the beliefs their elders have are lame and uncool.
So glad my life is more than half way over. Shit gets real boring after awhile. I mean nothing's new.
I've read worse. Anne Rice has a similar novel and I read it. We grew up reading "Flowers In the Attic." Read Stephen King's "Library Policeman.."
Eh, but these aren't my favorite reads... Seems kinda dumb that's her favorite. Does she read much...
Think of the positive sides to this: at one point the Twilight movies have to be cancelled.
Its a enpowered good-for-nothing girl who have 2 boyfriends
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Lol
You’re reading SEVENTEEN articles and offended about Lolita pedophilia not being allowed to be romanticized?
No surprises there.
It’s based on a true story. The story of Sally Horner. She was kidnapped and raped and Vladimir Nabokov used it to base Lolita off it.
Just because that Seventeen bimbo wants to be groomed and raped, in her fantasy, it doesn’t mean the real Lolita knew what was really going on.
You’re reading SEVENTEEN articles and offended about Lolita pedophilia not being allowed to be romanticized?
No surprises there.
It’s based on a true story. The story of Sally Horner. She was kidnapped and raped and Vladimir Nabokov used it to base Lolita off it.
Just because that Seventeen bimbo wants to be groomed and raped, in her fantasy, it doesn’t mean the real Lolita knew what was really going on.
How do you feel about Thomas Harris' Silence of the Lambs?
So glad my life is more than half way over. Shit gets real boring after awhile. I mean nothing's new.
I've read worse. Anne Rice has a similar novel and I read it. We grew up reading "Flowers In the Attic." Read Stephen King's "Library Policeman.."
Eh, but these aren't my favorite reads... Seems kinda dumb that's her favorite. Does she read much...
Are you the taste police?
You’re reading SEVENTEEN articles and offended about Lolita pedophilia not being allowed to be romanticized?
No surprises there.
No, I read google.
Nice stretch linking me coming across a Seventeen article to pedophilia lol.
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You’re reading SEVENTEEN articles and offended about Lolita pedophilia not being allowed to be romanticized?
No surprises there.
No, I read google.
Nice stretch linking me coming across a Seventeen article to pedophilia lol.
But that’s exactly what you’re doing.
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No I'm scrolling through google. I don't have a subscription to Seventeen. It was probably posted in several other publications online but this was among the first results or the headline was maybe more eyecatching that the other results, I don't recall. I had no idea what publication it was before that dude(-ette?) pointed it out.
Do you comprehend the difference?
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When you downplay the romanticising of a pedophile and the increase of alt right/white supremacy at the same time...........
When u don't understand difference between romantacizing and " unreliable narrator" -narrative.
Seems kinda dumb that's her favorite. Does she read much...
Yup, that's probably the only book she read, so that's "her favorite".
they're trying to cancel JK Rowling these days.
This one's gonna be fun to watch
You're just now getting upset? This shit all started with the democrats wanting anyone to be able to use whatever bathroom they wanted. Now they're just grasping at straws.
Cancel culture at it’s finest.
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When you downplay the romanticising of a pedophile and the increase of alt right/white supremacy at the same time...........
When u don't understand difference between romantacizing " unreliable narrator" -narrative.
I’m not talking about the narrator but go off.
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Then what do you mean by it "romanticizing a pedophile"? You seem to be unable to make distinction between the actual writer, whatever his intent with the book was and the unreliable narrator character whose thoughts and feelings he's depicting.
That's like saying Anthony Burgess was romanticizing rape and violence bc it happened to be the favorite pass time of the unreliable narrator of Clockwork Orange.
So what's it gonna be? What are u trying to say?
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You question my comprehension yet you can’t read the word ‘seventeen’ in the link.
Ok bro 👌🏻
'No eye for details' is something completely different from "comprehension" skills. Like what you are doing now is not comprehending that difference.
For me, it is more important whether or not Nabokov himself condemned Humbert Humbert. He did.
Posted by VenusAquarius Seems kinda dumb that's her favorite. Does she read much...
Yup, that's probably the only book she read, so that's "her favorite".
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LOL
She's being criticized by her fans. Many of which are underaged and find her romanticizing a fictional pedophile as abhorrent.
The reason she CHOSE to apologize is because its bad for her brand. She wants to keep her fans and the money and life style they provide her.
No one is forcing her to apologize. So no, she doesn't HAVE to apologize. She chose to.
She's being criticized by her fans. Many of which are underaged and find her romanticizing a fictional pedophile as abhorrent.
The reason she CHOSE to apologize is because its bad for her brand. She wants to keep her fans and the money and life style they provide her.
No one is forcing her to apologize. So no, she doesn't HAVE to apologize. She chose to.
She does though, you're just playing with words as usual. If she wishes to keep her fans, her brand, she has to play ball. So another happy day in court for cancel culture 👍
She's being criticized by her fans. Many of which are underaged and find her romanticizing a fictional pedophile as abhorrent.
The reason she CHOSE to apologize is because its bad for her brand. She wants to keep her fans and the money and life style they provide her.
No one is forcing her to apologize. So no, she doesn't HAVE to apologize. She chose to.
She does though, you're just playing with words as usual. If she wishes to keep her fans, her brand, she has to play ball. So another happy day in court for cancel culture 👍
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Good ole capitalism.
The virtual world (social media) has given fans power to make celebs dance like puppets...
I mean like it's gonna get to the point where they will choose song titles and outfits etc... Like an interactive movie.
Gotta dance bo diddly for your coins.
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When you downplay the romanticising of a pedophile and the increase of alt right/white supremacy at the same time...........
When u don't understand difference between romantacizing " unreliable narrator" -narrative.
I’m not talking about the narrator but go off.
Then what do you mean by it "romanticizing a pedophile"? You seem to be unable to make distinction between the actual writer, whatever his intent with the book was and the unreliable narrator character whose thoughts and feelings he's depicting.
That's like saying Anthony Burgess was romanticizing rape and violence bc it happened to be the favorite pass time of the unreliable narrator of Clockwork Orange.
So what's it gonna be? What are u trying to say?
I’m talking about Madison Beer............LOLZ
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Only she wasn't romanticizing pedophilia but the book, whatever that means to her.
Fact #2
The book has no pedophilia in it.
You’re reading SEVENTEEN articles and offended about Lolita pedophilia not being allowed to be romanticized?
No surprises there.
It’s based on a true story. The story of Sally Horner. She was kidnapped and raped and Vladimir Nabokov used it to base Lolita off it.
Just because that Seventeen bimbo wants to be groomed and raped, in her fantasy, it doesn’t mean the real Lolita knew what was really going on.
How do you feel about Thomas Harris' Silence of the Lambs?
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Good book. I’m interested in what human flesh tastes like.
I’m not into grooming and raping preteen girls and disguising it as a projection of a crush I had on a girl as an adolescent.
You may say it has no pedophilia in it, but the fantasy is pedophilic and inspired by an actual pedophilic crime.
It's just a moment in time, one that's not much different then the older generations. Specifically the one before boomers. Back when speaking out and being loud was outrageous, yet the times were still fucked in every way nonetheless. Eventually we will be used to cancel culture and censorship. Once we are old af being outrageous and rebellious will be the cool thing again, and we will think that the world is ending because of it. Simply put its just generations doing the complete opposite things their elders did because to most kids the beliefs their elders have are lame and uncool.
how do we escape the cycle man!!!—😣
Does she have daddy issues?
I don't care who's Daddy he is but he's cute.
His body is HOT and he's a great dancer.
I'm sure most people talking here havent even read the book. I personally found it absolutely disgusting. Especially as a victim of child rape and grooming it's just gross.
You’re reading SEVENTEEN articles and offended about Lolita pedophilia not being allowed to be romanticized?
No surprises there.
It’s based on a true story. The story of Sally Horner. She was kidnapped and raped and Vladimir Nabokov used it to base Lolita off it.
Just because that Seventeen bimbo wants to be groomed and raped, in her fantasy, it doesn’t mean the real Lolita knew what was really going on.
How do you feel about Thomas Harris' Silence of the Lambs?
Good book. I’m interested in what human flesh tastes like.
I’m not into grooming and raping preteen girls and disguising it as a projection of a crush I had on a girl as an adolescent.
You may say it has no pedophilia in it, but the fantasy is pedophilic and inspired by an actual pedophilic crime.
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It's pedophilic fantasy let's not pretend here. I find the book horrible.. it's also a book that my abuser used as an example of how "love between two people of different ages" was possible when in fact he was just grooming me to rape me afterwards and masquerade it as love.
So Lolita defenders can f themselves imo. They know EXACTLY what the book is about. This isn't a ladida teen romance AT ALL.
You’re reading SEVENTEEN articles and offended about Lolita pedophilia not being allowed to be romanticized?
No surprises there.
It’s based on a true story. The story of Sally Horner. She was kidnapped and raped and Vladimir Nabokov used it to base Lolita off it.
Just because that Seventeen bimbo wants to be groomed and raped, in her fantasy, it doesn’t mean the real Lolita knew what was really going on.
How do you feel about Thomas Harris' Silence of the Lambs?
Good book. I’m interested in what human flesh tastes like.
I’m not into grooming and raping preteen girls and disguising it as a projection of a crush I had on a girl as an adolescent.
You may say it has no pedophilia in it, but the fantasy is pedophilic and inspired by an actual pedophilic crime.
💯💯💯👏👏👏
It's pedophilic fantasy let's not pretend here. I find the book horrible.. it's also a book that my abuser used as an example of how "love between two people of different ages" was possible when in fact he was just grooming me to rape me afterwards and masquerade it as love.
So Lolita defenders can f themselves imo. They know EXACTLY what the book is about. This isn't a ladida teen romance AT ALL.
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It is. I read it in my early 20s, and as a young man, I felt repulsed.
Vladimir must of got off on the Sally Horner case to make an extended pedophilic fantasy novel. A lot of women in their 20s seem to find it romantic in a sense that they might have older man fantasies, but they’re usually of age.
I’m sorry about what happened to you. I can see how it can be used to groom.
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It's pedophilic fantasy let's not pretend here. I find the book horrible.. it's also a book that my abuser used as an example of how "love between two people of different ages" was possible when in fact he was just grooming me to rape me afterwards and masquerade it as love.
So Lolita defenders can f themselves imo. They know EXACTLY what the book is about. This isn't a ladida teen romance AT ALL.
So your misfortune is Nabokov's fault?? Are you fucking insane?
Also, I have no idea why uneducated/simpleminded ppl keep mislabelling the book as "intended romance" or "pedo fantasy". It's like u never read a single fucking book in your life. Do u comprehend how storytelling works?
Do you comprehend what "unreliable narrator" means? It means for the duration of the book, you will see things through the perspective of the narrator. In this case ,the pervert. We have front seats to the mind of a delusional man's fantasies/world view.
Like Dostoyevsky's "Notes from Underground" you see the story unfold through the skewed perspective of the narrator!
Or like Clockwork Orange, similary told through the perspective of an amoral narrator.
Should we ban this type of storytelling, is what you are proposing?
when a 22 year old has to apologize for reading classic litterature and liking it?
Are you for fucking real?
Let's take a step back. We don't know why she likes this novel. The way you worded the first sentence can be interpreted as if she liked the novel simply because it's classic literature. Even though she alluded to something of that like in her apology, it is common knowledge that public apologies are highly unreliable sources of information. This can potentially make people assume you're either biased or being deliberately deceptive, making people distrust you from the get go. And bad impressions are hard to shake.
We can't rely on the masses to be objective and give someone the benefit of the doubt when their sense of morality and personal feelings about anything are involved. This should be common sense to any celebrity or public figure. And cancel culture is nothing more than a byproduct of social media (which isn't going anywhere).
Voicing unpopular views that are generally considered controversial or perceived as offensive will make people crucify you. It's always been that way. This hasn't changed and never will. That's just the way the world works. Wise up, adapt, learn the game and its rules or pay the price.
The sad reality is that pondering, discussing or complaining about this won't change anything in the long run. It's an uphill and fruitless battle. Still interesting to discuss nonetheless.
The sad reality is that pondering, discussing or complaining about this won't change anything in the long run. It's an uphill and fruitless battle. Still interesting to discuss nonetheless.
So basically no one should bother addressing anything bc it's "pointless and an uphill and fruitless battle".
Are you in a phase when you're reading up on the French philosophers or something, cuz you suck .
The idiots waging the witch hunt clearly show their efforts aren't fruitless, so why would the efforts of the opposite side be fruitless? Why would one not address something they feel is wrong in the hopes of changing it or promoting awareness, regardless of which side you are on?
Like, are you high?
The sad reality is that pondering, discussing or complaining about this won't change anything in the long run. It's an uphill and fruitless battle. Still interesting to discuss nonetheless.
So basically no one should bother addressing anything bc it's "pointless and an uphill and fruitless battle".
Are you in a phase when you're reading up on the French philosophers or something, cuz you suck .
The idiots waging the witch hunt clearly show their efforts aren't fruitless, so why would the efforts of the opposite side be fruitless? Why would one not address something they feel is wrong in the hopes of changing it or promoting awareness, regardless of which side you are on?
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Where did I stated or even implied that "anything" is not worth addressing? You pulled the "anything" out of your ass to reframe what I said cause you lacked a decent rebuttal. And did you even stop to consider that I wasn't even referring to cancel culture but public backlash in general based on what I was mostly addressing? I could call you stupid for being such a sloppy thinker it would apply since you assumed like an idiot. But I'm not going to.
French philosophers? Random... and irrelevant. I see insults are the pork or fillers in your responses. My point is still intact, though. Voicing unpopular views is bound to generate some type of backlash. I wish I could say that you stand corrected but you failed to even make a relevant point here. All you had was an insult and your feelings.
Just because some people mention the word cancel in relation to what someone did or said does not mean that person is actually getting cancelled. The girl got backlash from her fans, just like any other celebrity that has angered their fans and is still around. They were all supposedly getting "cancelled" (allegedly) at some point yet they're still around. If your intention was to raise awareness about cancel culture this girl was a terrible example to use. She wasn't getting cancelled, just like Trisha Paytas or Jeffree Star who were "cancelled" probably over 50 times and are still around. You know who got cancelled? Paula Deen, Morgan Wallen, Shane Dawson. Besides, anyone who uses social media or participates in cancelling celebrities is familiar with the term "cancel culture." So who are you hoping to educate about this important and pressing matter, hmm? Morgan Wallen was cancelled just recently and the internet was well aware of cancel culture and the criticisms cancel culture has received by the media. In the case your intention for creating this post was not to raise awareness, then what was the purpose of making this thread? Cause what you said isn't adding up.
People thinking a girl romanticizes a story about Lolita/pedo stuff or has some weird fantasy or fetish where she is not the perpetrator is not enough to get her cancelled. "Like," use your brain. She sure has hell will get backlash, even lose a few fans, and people and news outlets will dramatize and sensationalized things by using the word "cancelled," but that is still not getting cancelled. Even if she didn't apologize she would most definitely still have a career.
So to address your erroneous assertion that idiots are waging a witch hunt and that their efforts aren't fruitless. Most of the time their efforts are fruitless. And again, this story or little incident about Madison Beer was such a stupidly unfitting example for you to use if you were hoping to highlight and bring awareness about internet witch hunts and cancelling since this girl suffered no real consequences. Just another day another drama in the social media world of young celebrities...
I mean, wasn't she also getting cancelled for lying to her fans about not having plastic surgery and being a hypocrite, promoting unrealistic beauty standards? Guess that didn't cancel her either. Oh, but what would you know? You're out of touch with the times and meddling into areas where you're completely tone deaf. Stuff that for younger generations is considered common sense. Like, how cancelling actually works. Yet here you are making deductions left and right and out of your ass, acting as if your opinions are the absolute truth and coming to ridiculously laughable conclusions. But most importantly, "raising awareness."
You could have made a more compelling argument if you would had use a celebrity like Paula Deen as an example. Someone that was cancelled for admitting to making a racist statement decades ago in the heat of a moment. Back when overt racism was more prevalent and acceptable than it is today. But Madison Beer? Lol, you never even had a case to begin with. You can rest assured that you would starve as an attorney.
Like, am I high? You ask. Except you really shot yourself in the foot there. Considering your posts and replies read like you're always on edge and to top it off you have Joe Rogan as your avi. Lawl..
Stay in your lane. Debating, being a pompous know-it-all and pondering about current issues isn't for you. Stick to taking semi-faceless pictures pleasuring yourself in the bathroom.
Lol. She must be a Lana Del Rey fan cause she’s got a few songs off of romanticizing Lolita. Lana also has teens and kittens part of her fan base. It’s called being artsy and aesthetic tho.
Also in Twilight Bella and Edward’s relationship started when they were 17 and 104 respectively.
Some people don’t find the context much different from plenty of songs out there about killing, drugs, sex and objectifying women.
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when a 22 year old has to apologize for reading classic litterature and liking it?
Are you for fucking real?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seventeen.com/celebrity/amp32884502/madison-beer-apologizes-after-romanticizing-controversial-book-lolita/