Horror films and grief

This topic was created in the Movies forum by Ram416 on Monday, April 8, 2019 and has 48 replies.

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So an acquaintance brought this up today after watching the film Hereditary, and I thought I'd bring it here to see if anyone knows of any other horror films that are dedicated to grief and trauma.

I've been a fan of horror films for a very long, but until recently I never really saw them as a method of dealing with grief and loss. Thoughts?

Also, an interesting article that touches on how horror films translate grief and loss for the viewing masses.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jun/07/hereditary-toni-collette-horror-grief

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Posted by LittleStar

Heriditary should have received an Oscar nod. Was excellent.

The Orphanage (Spanish)

Devils Backbone

The Babadook

Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance

The Changeling

Pans Labyrinth

Don’t Look Now

Mother (Korean)

Stand by Me (light horror/more drama)

AntiChrist (couldn’t watch)

Oldboy

Eraserhead

Pan's Labyrinth is one of my favourites from Guillermo del Toro.

I think I need to watch AntiChrist again.

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I read an explanation like that once somewhere. I'll have to read this article today when I can, oddly horror films don't do it for me even if grief and loss affect everyone.

I've always been attracted to the Pathos of soap operas, I don't know if any paralells can be made at all.

I think horror films help me in terms of traumas, loss-related or not. But as for the part about grief and loss, the effects aren't very obvious and I usually don't come away from a horror film thinking that I've learned something about grief.

Music is usually my go-to when it comes to loss.

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do you think someone's fave horror movie's a clue to their deepest grief/trauma?

of all the tropes in horror, the most unnatural to me is the resurrection of any deceased being/re-animation of a corpse.

when i thought about it, must be coz change always gave me anxiety. some kind of deep fear in me.

there's comfort in knowing that some things in life are permanent, even if it is death.

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Posted by virgoOPPP

do you think someone's fave horror movie's a clue to their deepest grief/trauma?

That's possible. It could be a kind of coping mechanism for their grief. E.g. the clip I posted from Hereditary.

It's one of my favourite horror films, and that particular scene is familiar to me, I could identify with it.

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Aries is def the horror movie buff of the zodiac!

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I reckon Aries are the best with horror movies! One of my best friends is Aries sun moon mercury and she loves them too... sorry not what the thread is about haha lol, just thought maybe it is a trend, what do you think?

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I don't know.

I have a friend who makes B-grade horror films for a living, but he's a Leo sun/Pisces moon.

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Posted by ClairDeLune

Hereditary

The Witch

Insidious 1&2

The Conjuring 1&2

The Exorcism of Emily Rose

The Omen

Anabelle

Sinister

Get Out

The Exorcist

Rosemary's Baby

The Blair Witch Project

The Shining

Which one of those aren't demon possessed movies?

I think I'm going to give hereditary and American psycho a try today.

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Posted by ClairDeLune

Hereditary

The Witch

Insidious 1&2

The Conjuring 1&2

The Exorcism of Emily Rose

The Omen

Anabelle

Sinister

Get Out

The Exorcist

Rosemary's Baby

The Blair Witch Project

The Shining

Which one of those aren't demon possessed movies?

I think I'm going to give hereditary and American psycho a try today.

Are you trying to avoid demon possession movies? 'Cause I don't wanna spoil anything, but...

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Lol I googled the movie hereditary after posting this 😅 my moon can be impatient sometimes lol.

And yes.. I avoid subjecting myself to movies like that. But once or twice a year won't hurt. So I'm still going to give it a try.

Should I burn some sage while watching tho?

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Posted by Phantom_Limbo

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Posted by ClairDeLune

Hereditary

The Witch

Insidious 1&2

The Conjuring 1&2

The Exorcism of Emily Rose

The Omen

Anabelle

Sinister

Get Out

The Exorcist

Rosemary's Baby

The Blair Witch Project

The Shining

Which one of those aren't demon possessed movies?

I think I'm going to give hereditary and American psycho a try today.

Are you trying to avoid demon possession movies? 'Cause I don't wanna spoil anything, but...

Lol I googled the movie hereditary after posting this 😅 my moon can be impatient sometimes lol.

And yes.. I avoid subjecting myself to movies like that. But once or twice a year won't hurt. So I'm still going to give it a try.

Should I burn some sage while watching tho?

Yes, girl. Yes! It made all the hairs on my body stand up and scream!

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Fux.. now I'm reconsidering 😅

if I'm up late tonight posting music you know why lol

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Posted by Phantom_Limbo

Posted by Notmyrealname

Aries is def the horror movie buff of the zodiac!

I always thought that was Scorpio's domain. The biggest horror buffs I've known were a Scorpio and a Virgo.

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Yes so true......most of the writers and actors in the League of Gentlemen are Virgos, i saw their live show in Edinburgh.....couldn't get darker than that lol

A Virgo domainant Scorpio film maker i know .... all his films are very dark 😈😳

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The latest horror/ thrillers I've seen is "the meg" and "Escape room"

If you'd like to hear my expert opinion.. just let me know 😌

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Posted by ClairDeLune

Hereditary

The Witch

Insidious 1&2

The Conjuring 1&2

The Exorcism of Emily Rose

The Omen

Anabelle

Sinister

Get Out

The Exorcist

Rosemary's Baby

The Blair Witch Project

The Shining

Which one of those aren't demon possessed movies?

I think I'm going to give hereditary and American psycho a try today.

Are you trying to avoid demon possession movies? 'Cause I don't wanna spoil anything, but...

Lol I googled the movie hereditary after posting this 😅 my moon can be impatient sometimes lol.

And yes.. I avoid subjecting myself to movies like that. But once or twice a year won't hurt. So I'm still going to give it a try.

Should I burn some sage while watching tho?

Yes, girl. Yes! It made all the hairs on my body stand up and scream!

Fux.. now I'm reconsidering 😅

if I'm up late tonight posting music you know why lol

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lol!

It's a good movie. I'm glad I saw it, but you're probably going to need a lot of uplifting, booty-shaking music to cleanse yourself afterward.

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Hahaha yess! I'm going to need a distraction. I'll watch it in a few since the sun is up 😫

I'll tell what I think when it's done.

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Posted by Phantom_Limbo

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Aries is def the horror movie buff of the zodiac!

I always thought that was Scorpio's domain. The biggest horror buffs I've known were a Scorpio and a Virgo.

Yes so true......most of the writers and actors in the League of Gentlemen are Virgos, i saw their live show in Edinburgh.....couldn't get darker than that lol

A Virgo domainant Scorpio film maker i know .... all his films are very dark 😈😳

Oh my God, I love them. "This is a local shop for _local_ people!"

It seems to me that Virgo men, in particular, can be quite dark and interested in macabre things. Look at Nick Cave. I wonder if you'd find different sign dominance grouping around different types of horror. I can see Mars-influenced people liking slashers, for example, but that's a guess, not something I've really seen.

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Haha, they're mad 😈

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Posted by ClairDeLune

Hereditary

The Witch

Insidious 1&2

The Conjuring 1&2

The Exorcism of Emily Rose

The Omen

Anabelle

Sinister

Get Out

The Exorcist

Rosemary's Baby

The Blair Witch Project

The Shining

Shining, Rosenary's Baby, Get Out, Exorcist, Blair Witch, The Vvitch...... none of them strike me as being thematically about grief.

Unless sobbing characters and/or having a history = grief. In which case essentially all horror movies are about grief.

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Posted by ClairDeLune

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Hereditary

The Witch

Insidious 1&2

The Conjuring 1&2

The Exorcism of Emily Rose

The Omen

Anabelle

Sinister

Get Out

The Exorcist

Rosemary's Baby

The Blair Witch Project

The Shining

Shining, Rosenary's Baby, Get Out, Exorcist, Blair Witch, The Vvitch...... none of them strike me as being thematically about grief.

Unless sobbing characters and/or having a history = grief. In which case essentially all horror movies are about grief.

I actually felt a sense of despair for The Witch, *SPOILER ALERT* When the dad broke down by the realization of his pride costing his family's sanity, stability and their place in civilization kind of hurt my soul

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Yeah but I was thinking more like a movie that has grief as a theme (Hereditary, Don't Look Now) as oppose to just a movie that has grief in it

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Posted by ClairDeLune

Hereditary

The Witch

Insidious 1&2

The Conjuring 1&2

The Exorcism of Emily Rose

The Omen

Anabelle

Sinister

Get Out

The Exorcist

Rosemary's Baby

The Blair Witch Project

The Shining

Shining, Rosenary's Baby, Get Out, Exorcist, Blair Witch, The Vvitch...... none of them strike me as being thematically about grief.

Unless sobbing characters and/or having a history = grief. In which case essentially all horror movies are about grief.

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Actually I think The Witch does have some representation of grief.

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Posted by ClairDeLune

Hereditary

The Witch

Insidious 1&2

The Conjuring 1&2

The Exorcism of Emily Rose

The Omen

Anabelle

Sinister

Get Out

The Exorcist

Rosemary's Baby

The Blair Witch Project

The Shining

Which one of those aren't demon possessed movies?

I think I'm going to give hereditary and American psycho a try today.

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I just got done rewatching American Psycho...the closing narration never fails to make my skin crawl.

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Posted by Notmyrealname

Aries is def the horror movie buff of the zodiac!

I always thought that was Scorpio's domain. The biggest horror buffs I've known were a Scorpio and a Virgo.

Yes so true......most of the writers and actors in the League of Gentlemen are Virgos, i saw their live show in Edinburgh.....couldn't get darker than that lol

A Virgo domainant Scorpio film maker i know .... all his films are very dark 😈😳

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I think when it comes to being a film buff and being a filmmaker, the requirements are different.

Alfred Hitchcock was a Leo sun/Scorpio moon, but Sun dominant - however he had Mercury Virgo and a few others in Virgo. He set the bar very high for future psychological horror films.

David Lynch is Cap sun/Virgo moon but moon dominant. Same dark and twisted approach to horror and psychology in film.

Neil Marshall is Sun Gemini/Aquarius moon.

I can go on and on but I've noticed a pattern with mercurial placements, so definitely Virgo or at least some Mercury aspects (3rd house or either Gemini or Virgo).

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Posted by ClairDeLune

Hereditary

The Witch

Insidious 1&2

The Conjuring 1&2

The Exorcism of Emily Rose

The Omen

Anabelle

Sinister

Get Out

The Exorcist

Rosemary's Baby

The Blair Witch Project

The Shining

Shining, Rosenary's Baby, Get Out, Exorcist, Blair Witch, The Vvitch...... none of them strike me as being thematically about grief.

Unless sobbing characters and/or having a history = grief. In which case essentially all horror movies are about grief.

Actually I think The Witch does have some representation of grief.

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Actually y'all right.. i had forgotten about that infant disappearing in the opening which sort of sets off the events and psychology of the film.

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Posted by Ram416

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Posted by Phantom_Limbo

Posted by Notmyrealname

Aries is def the horror movie buff of the zodiac!

I always thought that was Scorpio's domain. The biggest horror buffs I've known were a Scorpio and a Virgo.

Yes so true......most of the writers and actors in the League of Gentlemen are Virgos, i saw their live show in Edinburgh.....couldn't get darker than that lol

A Virgo domainant Scorpio film maker i know .... all his films are very dark 😈😳

I think when it comes to being a film buff and being a filmmaker, the requirements are different.

Alfred Hitchcock was a Leo sun/Scorpio moon, but Sun dominant - however he had Mercury Virgo and a few others in Virgo. He set the bar very high for future psychological horror films.

David Lynch is Cap sun/Virgo moon but moon dominant. Same dark and twisted approach to horror and psychology in film.

Neil Marshall is Sun Gemini/Aquarius moon.

I can go on and on but I've noticed a pattern with mercurial placements, so definitely Virgo or at least some Mercury aspects (3rd house or either Gemini or Virgo).

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Interesting!

I watched a documentary on David Lynch last night, unusual man and quite quirky for a Cap.

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The latest horror/ thrillers I've seen is "the meg" and "Escape room"

If you'd like to hear my expert opinion.. just let me know 😌

What is Escape Room about?

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It's pretty much the same concept as SAW except the victim willingly entered the "game" (room).

The movie was okay. I'm not mad at it at all lol.

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Hereditary

The Witch

Insidious 1&2

The Conjuring 1&2

The Exorcism of Emily Rose

The Omen

Anabelle

Sinister

Get Out

The Exorcist

Rosemary's Baby

The Blair Witch Project

The Shining

Which one of those aren't demon possessed movies?

I think I'm going to give hereditary and American psycho a try today.

I think only Get out and the shining. I was disappointed with hereditary's ending

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Dude.. I psyched myself out. Hereditary was not scary at all. I did take a long blink when the lil girl cut the birds head off 😂😂 other then that It wasn't too devil-ly 😌

The ending made sense lol

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Posted by Ram416

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Hereditary

The Witch

Insidious 1&2

The Conjuring 1&2

The Exorcism of Emily Rose

The Omen

Anabelle

Sinister

Get Out

The Exorcist

Rosemary's Baby

The Blair Witch Project

The Shining

Which one of those aren't demon possessed movies?

I think I'm going to give hereditary and American psycho a try today.

I just got done rewatching American Psycho...the closing narration never fails to make my skin crawl.

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Lol I'm watching now..

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Posted by LittleStar

Heriditary should have received an Oscar nod. Was excellent.

The Orphanage (Spanish)

Devils Backbone

The Babadook

Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance

The Changeling

Pans Labyrinth

Don’t Look Now

Mother (Korean)

Stand by Me (light horror/more drama)

AntiChrist (couldn’t watch)

Oldboy

Eraserhead

OMG, I been looking for the movie forever... couldn't remember the title. This is the most excellent on the subject matter. You really feel the hopelessness and anger.

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The Others

Pet Cemetery

Salem's Lot

Come to mind at the moment. Salem's Lot the book was more profound in grief. But, with the movie, when his childhood friend floats to the window begging to be let in... in that moment, the grief is fastforwarded at such a spead to cause nausea.

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@LittleStar The orphanage absolutely devastated me, I was in tears..

@Ram416 You should try Haunting of hill house - Netflix. I loved it, good psychological horror

It was good in terms of storyline. But in general it was ok. I've watched the original as well, which was cheesy but I liked it better because of the hitchcock influence.

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"You're out of time, Mr. Dandridge. Look over your shoulder...."

I love how Peter Vincent goes from being an absolute skeptic and coward, and transforms into a true vampire fighter that Van Helsing himself would be proud of.

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Looks like this thread went off topic. I hate when that happens to my threads... makes me think really snobby condescending thoughts.

I usually ignore derailers.

Sometimes people don't understand the basis of a thought process behind a thread ( in this case it's representation of grief in horror films) and just post whatever. I stop bothering to give directions.

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I loveeeee scary movies! Love rob zombie movies, the Michael Myers movies.

House of 1000 corpses

Evil dead

Halloween (alllll of them)

Texas chainsaw

Exorcism of Emily rose

The conjuring (highly recommend)

Even the kid scary movies like ;

Monster house

Caroline