Effortless
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Bums and Homeless People
Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
Someone will try high benefits or universal basic income once more jobs are automated otherwise there will be a lot of homeless people.
Good observation.
Do you think that there are more bums as the result of increasingly automated and digital technology taking over employment and production opportunities?
Posted by DrinkWater
Lol the girl in that photo looks allot like @Smidge
That's no stock photo, it's from a news report.
Is Smidge a bum too?
People get homeless for different reasons so you gotta ask different questions.
What can we do about
People with mental illness
Plain unemployed
Too high rents
etc
Posted by DreamyboyPosted by DiannaPosted by Dreamyboy
My most memorable recent experience that really ticked me off
My sister and I pull up to a wingstop and we both drive nice sport coupes that sound modified and we both dress very classy. This panhandler literally runs to us as we get out asking for money. We offered to buy him dinner and he gave us the run around backing up a bit and really trying to have us give him money. We ended up giving him nothing. Like, really dude? Are you even homeless or just looking for free shit to take to your house.
There are a lot of panhandlers near my work. My boss sometimes offers them odd jobs. Only one guy has ever taken him up on the offer. I give him money when I see him, but not the others.
Relatable. I’ve offered jobs to a lot of panhandlers before when I was a contractor, but they’ve all said no-_- it’s almost like the only way to find if one is genuine is to offer him work and if he takes it, then he’s clearly in need of a helping hand.click to expand
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/do-panhandlers-make-50-an-hour/
Probably why there's been an increase in panhandling.
Posted by Ellygant
Homeless in LA are different than homeless other places. LA in particular is bad about them.
A lot of homeless in my city is because of drugs in some way shape or form. They’re either active users or decades long on/off have just worn away their mental health, soul and any helpful relationship they had left. Homeless in LA can actually be very well spoken, intelligent and cohesive individuals who normally got hit with shit circumstances and had no support network. That’s why so many documentaries and news bites about changing homelessness are filmed in LA.
It’s up to cities to approach that problem since each economic structure is so different. My city is one of the fastest growing for affordable and immersed low income housing. It sucks for those at the higher end of lower class or the lower end of middle class. But the homing retention rates are good. Not dumps either. I lived on the same street as one and their townhouses were nicer than my rental. Lol.
I remember watching a documentary where this homeless guy said he lost everything during the 2008-2010 financial crisis.
What he does now is help shelters and soup kitchens distribute blankets and food to those homeless people who aren't able to go to those places for help. He himself does odd jobs here and there for pocket money, and claims that he never begs.
Posted by BathHouseCulture
And it’s homelessness not bums. I swear people are so mentally ill on this thing.
Hahaha, got your panties in a bunch over the use of politically incorrect language?
Some people call them bums, some people call them homeless.
Taking out your SJW insecurities on others is pathetic.
Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturnsPosted by EffortlessPosted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
Someone will try high benefits or universal basic income once more jobs are automated otherwise there will be a lot of homeless people.
Good observation.
Do you think that there are more bums as the result of increasingly automated and digital technology taking over employment and production opportunities?
I’m not sure there are yet but there will be. We already have automatic machines for paying money into a bank, taking your McDonald’s order and scanning your groceries so jobs have been lost. I think the main impact will be in 5 to 15 years.click to expand
Yes, automation is indeed making blue collar employment less tangible with each passing year.
Posted by Dreamyboy
My most memorable recent experience that really ticked me off
My sister and I pull up to a wingstop and we both drive nice sport coupes that sound modified and we both dress very classy. This panhandler literally runs to us as we get out asking for money. We offered to buy him dinner and he gave us the run around backing up a bit and really trying to have us give him money. We ended up giving him nothing. Like, really dude? Are you even homeless or just looking for free shit to take to your house.
A lot of bums use the money to buy drugs and alcohol.
The problem is that they hate the idea of eating food or seeking behavioral health treatment for substance addictions.
It's frustrating to deal with because you are trying to do the right thing, and they hate that.
Posted by HeartofTopazz
“Mecca of bums” lmfaooooo
No shit, I am serious!
I was in LA last year, and they are everywhere.
Didn't make it to San Francisco, but it's really bad there as well.
The problem is that they shit and piss in the streets and sidewalks, so you have to be careful about where you step if you need to walk somewhere in the downtown area.
Posted by Dreamyboy
@smidge you have some splaining to do
Hahahaha, I don't think that is Smidgey in the photo.
...At least, I hope it's not her!
Posted by DiannaPosted by Dreamyboy
My most memorable recent experience that really ticked me off
My sister and I pull up to a wingstop and we both drive nice sport coupes that sound modified and we both dress very classy. This panhandler literally runs to us as we get out asking for money. We offered to buy him dinner and he gave us the run around backing up a bit and really trying to have us give him money. We ended up giving him nothing. Like, really dude? Are you even homeless or just looking for free shit to take to your house.
There are a lot of panhandlers near my work. My boss sometimes offers them odd jobs. Only one guy has ever taken him up on the offer. I give him money when I see him, but not the others.click to expand
Just be careful in your interactions with them.
Never know what else they might have in mind.
Posted by vivi4656
It's all about incentives. When taxes are high, people will lose the incentive to work. Also, with inflation, retired individuals are finding it hard to live. They are running out of money. The government gives people so much money, they do not see the need to work. Why would you work when you're getting free money monthly? A plethora of veterans are homeless and the housing prices in LA are extremely high! Everything in LA is expensive. However, there are many reasons for homelessness (drugs, disabilities, etc.). It's sad and I think we as citizens need to do a better job at volunteering or doing what we can without the help of the government.
Well said, and I appreciate your support here.
I would add that the VA has failed many Veterans, and the entire administrative system is corrupt AF.
Did you hear about the Los Angeles VA Hospital that selected letters from homeless Veterans for the shredder?
It was a huge scandal, and thank God there is much-needed reform coming to the VA because of this corruption.
Source:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/va-caught-sending-veterans-mail-to-the-shredder
Posted by LaMadrina
ive tried to teach them to fish by offering them jobs as well as a bit of financial help. no one took the opportunity. i saw this one homeless man begging for money for food. a lady just bought a meal, didnt touch it. it was hot and fresh, wrapped up. he went through the bag and threw it down. he said he didn't want that shit, he wanted money.
also many ppl get over by pretending to be beggars. meanwhile after a day of panhandling, they go off and hop in their fancy cars and drive to their fancy homes. a real homeless person will do whatever they need to get on their feet. too many con artists in this world.
He probably didn't give two shits about pursuing a new life.
It's the drugs and booze that he was probably keen to get.
Messed up situation for many.
Posted by BathHouseCulturePosted by EffortlessPosted by BathHouseCulture
And it’s homelessness not bums. I swear people are so mentally ill on this thing.
Hahaha, got your panties in a bunch over the use of politically incorrect language?
Some people call them bums, some people call them homeless.
Taking out your SJW insecurities on others is pathetic.
You’re a loser it’s evident.click to expand
I would like to cite the United States Supreme Court case of Pot V. Kettle.
You came here to attack me rather than discuss things like everyone else.
That makes you a pussy, not an adult.
PS... With a DXP codename referencing gay sex, you need to take a very close look in the mirror if you want to see a loser.
Posted by DiannaPosted by EffortlessPosted by DiannaPosted by Dreamyboy
My most memorable recent experience that really ticked me off
My sister and I pull up to a wingstop and we both drive nice sport coupes that sound modified and we both dress very classy. This panhandler literally runs to us as we get out asking for money. We offered to buy him dinner and he gave us the run around backing up a bit and really trying to have us give him money. We ended up giving him nothing. Like, really dude? Are you even homeless or just looking for free shit to take to your house.
There are a lot of panhandlers near my work. My boss sometimes offers them odd jobs. Only one guy has ever taken him up on the offer. I give him money when I see him, but not the others.
Just be careful in your interactions with them.
Never know what else they might have in mind.
This happens alot. I keep "bear spray" in my car, just in case.click to expand
Yeah, it's getting to the point where I run red lights at night sometimes.
Depends on where I am, of course.
Posted by Ram416Posted by Ellygant
Homeless in LA are different than homeless other places. LA in particular is bad about them.
A lot of homeless in my city is because of drugs in some way shape or form. They’re either active users or decades long on/off have just worn away their mental health, soul and any helpful relationship they had left. Homeless in LA can actually be very well spoken, intelligent and cohesive individuals who normally got hit with shit circumstances and had no support network. That’s why so many documentaries and news bites about changing homelessness are filmed in LA.
It’s up to cities to approach that problem since each economic structure is so different. My city is one of the fastest growing for affordable and immersed low income housing. It sucks for those at the higher end of lower class or the lower end of middle class. But the homing retention rates are good. Not dumps either. I lived on the same street as one and their townhouses were nicer than my rental. Lol.
I remember watching a documentary where this homeless guy said he lost everything during the 2008-2010 financial crisis.
What he does now is help shelters and soup kitchens distribute blankets and food to those homeless people who aren't able to go to those places for help. He himself does odd jobs here and there for pocket money, and claims that he never begs.
click to expand
At one point in my original video, one of the younger guys acknowledged the need to establish more shelters. So he is using his skills to request grant money to set up a homeless shelter for young men on the street.
Looks like his dedication is for a worthwhile cause.
Posted by maiden
Don't care to watch those documentaries..never seen any
Give them a shot sometime when you are ready.
However, given your harrowing story, it may not be the best thing given the flashbacks which may inevitably come.
Posted by BathHouseCulturePosted by EffortlessPosted by BathHouseCulturePosted by EffortlessPosted by BathHouseCulture
And it’s homelessness not bums. I swear people are so mentally ill on this thing.
Hahaha, got your panties in a bunch over the use of politically incorrect language?
Some people call them bums, some people call them homeless.
Taking out your SJW insecurities on others is pathetic.
You’re a loser it’s evident.
I would like to cite the United States Supreme Court case of Pot V. Kettle.
You came here to attack me rather than discuss things like everyone else.
That makes you a pussy, not an adult.
PS... With a DXP codename referencing gay sex, you need to take a very close look in the mirror if you want to see a loser.
I can see your penis introverting from here. Waaaaclick to expand
You fucking queer troll.
No one needs to read about your gay shit here.
Posted by DiannaPosted by EffortlessPosted by DiannaPosted by EffortlessPosted by DiannaPosted by Dreamyboy
My most memorable recent experience that really ticked me off
My sister and I pull up to a wingstop and we both drive nice sport coupes that sound modified and we both dress very classy. This panhandler literally runs to us as we get out asking for money. We offered to buy him dinner and he gave us the run around backing up a bit and really trying to have us give him money. We ended up giving him nothing. Like, really dude? Are you even homeless or just looking for free shit to take to your house.
There are a lot of panhandlers near my work. My boss sometimes offers them odd jobs. Only one guy has ever taken him up on the offer. I give him money when I see him, but not the others.
Just be careful in your interactions with them.
Never know what else they might have in mind.
This happens alot. I keep "bear spray" in my car, just in case.
Yeah, it's getting to the point where I run red lights at night sometimes.
Depends on where I am, of course.
To get home, I have to do a uturn on a one way Blvd. It is the ideal corner for panhandlers because it's a one way and a long light. They actually fight over that corner. I just look straight ahead and have never had a problem but I always get nervous at night and stay alert.
My male coworker had one kicking his car once.click to expand
A lot of the bums forget that Castle Doctrine actually allows (depending on the state) for motorists to shoot them if there is violent contact with the car/driver.
The crackhead in the video risked being shot given that he used a weapon to attack the cars.
Posted by Effortless
PS... With a DXP codename referencing gay sex, you need to take a very close look in the mirror if you want to see a loser.
Nothing says loser like a homophobe.
Take your anti gay prejudice elsewhere.
Take care of them hopefully? Most people are one paycheck away from being homeless. Most homeless would do anything to have a job and a home..but it's very hard to get one without the other. Anyone who judges them has no heart and has no idea what it's like to suffer like that.
My goodness. Can everyone just wear a pair of chanclas and be done with it.
Posted by Arielle83Posted by Aliensusedourbogroll
One of the reasons some homeless people don’t accept food is because they don’t trust that the food hasn’t been messed with. There are people out there that like to put literal and figurative shit in food and give it to the homeless to eat.
Think a few years ago some teen beat up and stabbed a homeless man to death in Fremantle by E shed markets.click to expand
Happened in my home town of fullerton. Some drunk college kids kicked a homeless man to death. He was just sleeping and minding his own business.
Posted by DrinkWaterPosted by EffortlessPosted by DrinkWater
Lol the girl in that photo looks allot like @Smidge
That's no stock photo, it's from a news report.
Is Smidge a bum too?
Maybe...click to expand
Bum wirh Compurer? Wow!
Yea, what brought you into the hard state to begin with?
How long were you in it?
How did you escape?
Good to know you are away from that hardship.
How long were you in it?
How did you escape?
Good to know you are away from that hardship.
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I am watching a few documentaries on YouTube about them, and there are a ton of them in Los Angeles.
It seems like LA is the mecca of bums.
Anyway, what is the solution to the problem here? Will they work? Where will they live?