My Daughter Is A Pisces

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Oh how is it to have a pisces daughter? Do tell me please.

My mum is a Scorpio and I grew up thinking she hated and despised me. Quite heartbreaking. She never understood me.But she is always there (on her own way) for me when I need her no matter what. However, when she attempts to be motherly towards me it feels so fake and forced. It is uncomfortable for both of us.
She has a better time with my Cap sister and my Leo brother.
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If she barely even knows you, then it doesn't matter what she thinks.


people voice opinions on things they don't know, or get, all the time .....


I have 3 Scorpio men in my immediate family - father, brother, son .... and they all 3 do have a level of evilness to them.

The way I view things is .... every person has layers of energy. In order for there to be white, black has to exist. In order for there to be light, dark has to exist. The problem with people today is that they ONLY want to recognize positive qualities, and completely ignore the negative. And those people are ignorant fools ... because the dark does actually exist. And if you don't acknowledge this, then you set yourself up to fail repeatedly when evil comes into the scenario.


to me, it's not that Scorpios have evil qualities any more than anyone else ... rather, they just accept that they have low levels. They aren't afraid of the dark side.
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Posted by P-Angel

If she barely even knows you, then it doesn't matter what she thinks.


people voice opinions on things they don't know, or get, all the time .....


I have 3 Scorpio men in my immediate family - father, brother, son .... and they all 3 do have a level of evilness to them.

The way I view things is .... every person has layers of energy. In order for there to be white, black has to exist. In order for there to be light, dark has to exist. The problem with people today is that they ONLY want to recognize positive qualities, and completely ignore the negative. And those people are ignorant fools ... because the dark does actually exist. And if you don't acknowledge this, then you set yourself up to fail repeatedly when evil comes into the scenario.


to me, it's not that Scorpios have evil qualities any more than anyone else ... rather, they just accept that they have low levels. They aren't afraid of the dark side.
If I may use a metaphor.




It may be said if one knew the depths of me as I know my story.... they may wonder whether my life is being played out on the silver screen or in
or minstrel'd in song.


The dual within, ALL my days.

The urge to destroy the world to save the self.



Or to destroy the self to save the world.


A man of war and a man of peace, as they were, one, cast over the falls.


Against self. Against the world.


I don't know...

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Posted by P-Angel

If she barely even knows you, then it doesn't matter what she thinks.


people voice opinions on things they don't know, or get, all the time .....


I have 3 Scorpio men in my immediate family - father, brother, son .... and they all 3 do have a level of evilness to them.

The way I view things is .... every person has layers of energy. In order for there to be white, black has to exist. In order for there to be light, dark has to exist. The problem with people today is that they ONLY want to recognize positive qualities, and completely ignore the negative. And those people are ignorant fools ... because the dark does actually exist. And if you don't acknowledge this, then you set yourself up to fail repeatedly when evil comes into the scenario.


to me, it's not that Scorpios have evil qualities any more than anyone else ... rather, they just accept that they have low levels. They aren't afraid of the dark side.
Refreshing to see this posted on dxp
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They're so old

Were they never taught to judge for themselves

What was their mother?
Sag from a dysfunctional home.
Pretty messed up, she was.

Imagine "honey boo-boo"

The consequences are going to be pretty extreme for all of them.



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It doesn't sound like you were really around for your daughters.

Did the sag keep you out from their lives or did you decide to keep yourself away?
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They're so old

Were they never taught to judge for themselves

What was their mother?
Sag from a dysfunctional home.
Pretty messed up, she was.

Imagine "honey boo-boo"

The consequences are going to be pretty extreme for all of them.


It doesn't sound like you were really around for your daughters.

Did the sag keep you out from their lives or did you decide to keep yourself away?
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First off, I had been through this myself when I was little.
My parents divorced when I was two.


Sag left me for someone with more money. whom she would marry.



I told her not to leave, to think of the kids.



I was a transcontinental truck driver.

Hardly ever in town. Truck's got to roll to make money.



One night, while waiting at an old Santa Fe marshaling yard's freight terminal in Chicago,
I gave them a call. She asked if I would sign I adoption papers "so they all could have the same last name".



When I got off the road, they moved 2000 miles away.
A couple of years, later, in 2001, my heart began to give me trouble.

Then I found out I had diabetes in 2004.

They got look of me, rejected me.






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What are you going to do to fix it? Do you even care to? How do you feel about them?
"Parental Alienation Syndrome" is what this is.
I've been crucified by my parents, by her, and my girls.

So far as love goes, I probably look like a crucifix.

I love em, but I can't make them love me.



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So pretty much youre keeping the cycle going by being a lazy coward. Love is not easy.

I think you should stay away from them until you're willing to truly do what it it takes to make them love you.
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Can u try to build back with ur daughters
I have tried.

They are on FB. I am there too.
I see everything.
I've confronted them about those things.
They don't care.

You know how I've written about Numerology.

IF you knew my full name.
You would find 6, 6, 6 in it.
I shared that with my daughter and she thought
I was proud of it and thought I was the son of the devil or
the devil himself.


I am supposed to have a pacemaker. But I don't have one. No $ $ $ .
Diabetes causes a lot of pain. It doesn't end.
It feels like I am on 1000 mile hike with 100lbs on my back.
Arthritis, pins and needs and knives stabbing me here and there.
Feet burn or freeze. I am cold.





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Posted by SassyKiwi
Your daughters deserve to hear you out. To know how much you would've fought for them if you had the means. You would've never let them go if it wasn't for the fact that other man supposedly would be giving them a better life than you could during the time. I mean if that's how you feel I hope you've shared that with them....
Their mother divorced the man.
He remarried.
I am STILL here.

I still love them and I still love their mother.

I think they think it's my job to take the whole load.

Funny, that's my job.
Maybe when reach my final destination, I can unload all the weight.
And get some lonnnng needed rest.
I haven't slept well in over 25 years.




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I know u didn't but they probably believe it specially if sag spoke badly
So the tell them ur side because all these heard is sag s side
I told them the reason I was not around when they were little growing up, wasn't because of them.
Within a month of my 2nd daughter's birth, I paid a visit.
There was a fat lazy LEO pig sitting in a recliner with a proud arrogant look on his face.
The thought of pulling the knife and decapitating the pig right then and there, on the spot, crossed my mind.
The temptation began to sear my soul. I just about snapped.
Had my eldest not looked up at me with the words in her eyes pleading "Daddy, Don't!".
We would not be having this conversation.

There would be no Mr.Firebird.
Neither would there be 1/2 siblings to follow my girls.

Since that time in 91 I've hauled that pain away.
They are quite complacent about it. Taking it for granted.







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Firebird, you're torturing yourself, and that probably accounts for the majority of the health issues, too. Stress does horrible things to the body, to the soul, to everything! I should know, I've lived it, and I'm unraveling it.

I completely understand your pain, though!! As a mother, watching my children be used and manipulated by my ex and his family is one of the biggest triggers to my darkest side. You need to find a more healing way to deal with this, and you can't blame yourself for something someone else did to your children (alienation).

Hopefully your daughters figure things out and you can all heal from this.
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How can anyone love a woman or man who destroyed their family?

Lol you wanted to kill the Leo pig? I'd kilt the wife! In my head! You still love this woman?

You need therapy
I need therapy?

I went to see a shrink and she asked me how I coped. Many people had either committed murder, suicide or murder suicide, when they have faced
some intense experience such as the disintegration of the home.

She kicked me out of her office.

Of course, I still love her.
I cannot love my kids without loving her.

That's a concept that is beyond my comprehension.
I've tried. No can do.

I am a life path 9.
My Lilith is in Cancer.
My Moon is Pisces.
When I joined this forum, ol' sweetie Ellesque told me that I see dead people.
Tongue in cheek... I've been called cheeky, every dirty word in the book and then some.
Strangest one was Hoary Thunderer.



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Until you take responsibility for the pain you've caused your daughters and yourself you will continue to suffer. Rightfully so.

Being truthful and fair makes everything better. Start with yourself. And work your way to your daughters. As someone that was abandoned by her father and eventually formed a relationship with him before his death, I can tell you that your journey starts when you show yourself as genuine and true.


Feeling sorry for yourself and gathering the pity of people around you might feel nice, but when the computer goes off it is back to reality. You know the truth. Acknowledge it and live in it.
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I know u didn't but they probably believe it specially if sag spoke badly
So the tell them ur side because all these heard is sag s side
I told them the reason I was not around when they were little growing up, wasn't because of them.
Within a month of my 2nd daughter's birth, I paid a visit.
There was a fat lazy LEO pig sitting in a recliner with a proud arrogant look on his face.
The thought of pulling the knife and decapitating the pig right then and there, on the spot, crossed my mind.
The temptation began to sear my soul. I just about snapped.
Had my eldest not looked up at me with the words in her eyes pleading "Daddy, Don't!".
We would not be having this conversation.

There would be no Mr.Firebird.
Neither would there be 1/2 siblings to follow my girls.

Since that time in 91 I've hauled that pain away.
They are quite complacent about it. Taking it for granted.






You should've controlled yourself and still been there for them.

Don't sulk because of the consequences of your absence, that's your fault.

I have no sympathy for absent parents.
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Excuse me but do you know what a transcontinental truck driver is? Do you remotely know how much your life depends on him doing his job?







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Posted by Magenta_Azure
Until you take responsibility for the pain you've caused your daughters and yourself you will continue to suffer. Rightfully so.

Being truthful and fair makes everything better. Start with yourself. And work your way to your daughters. As someone that was abandoned by her father and eventually formed a relationship with him before his death, I can tell you that your journey starts when you show yourself as genuine and true.


Feeling sorry for yourself and gathering the pity of people around you might feel nice, but when the computer goes off it is back to reality. You know the truth. Acknowledge it and live in it.
You still harbor hate for your father.


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If your daughters are old enough to be on fb (I might have missed their ages if you posted them), then I think the only thing that could heal them is time. They have to realize it on their own. And they may never do that. Like someone else said, it's not their responsibility to love you. Kids don't always love the parents they grew up living with. But, I think if I were in their shoes, Id think "Whether the stories are true or not, I've never had a father figure and I don't exactly need one at this stage in my life". My leo has felt the same about his 'father', although the circumstances are a bit different.
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Until you take responsibility for the pain you've caused your daughters and yourself you will continue to suffer. Rightfully so.

Being truthful and fair makes everything better. Start with yourself. And work your way to your daughters. As someone that was abandoned by her father and eventually formed a relationship with him before his death, I can tell you that your journey starts when you show yourself as genuine and true.


Feeling sorry for yourself and gathering the pity of people around you might feel nice, but when the computer goes off it is back to reality. You know the truth. Acknowledge it and live in it.
You still harbor hate for your father.


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I hope that made you feel better!

Now back to the actual point...
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Your past is somewhat similar to my fathers. He's a scorpio sun/moon

My father was raised by his grandparents- Under the guise that they were his parents. His mother had him when she was 15- they never had much of a relationship even when he found out the truth. He never knew his dad.

When my parents divorced, he made every effort to see us. Even tho we moved out of state, he was constantly in court trying to fight to see us more. He always said used to say he didn't want us to feel like he felt growing up. That was his biggest motivator.

Your situation sucks. But we make choices. Your blaming life circumstances as to why you couldn't see them. But as others have mentioned they are just excuses. Your daughter doesn't love you because there isn't any type of bond forged- and tbh- your ex probley bashed your name into the mud- Incredibly common in divorce. My mother did it also- but the difference is that i had my dad around to show me otherwise.

You can make the choice to be involved now, just don't anticipate reciprocation for some time.

Also- any kind of negativity- whether it be about their mom- or ex's- you referred to them as hicks in your earlier posts. I can only hope you don't talk like that in front of your daughter. Be positive, encouraging, and supportive. She will come around in time.