Do you believe

that romanticism poisoned people minds about genuine love and care? Enshrined the lovers' ego above all else and made properties out of human beings.

In a genuine friendship, people have a higher degree of patience, kindness and tolerance for each other that don't get stripped away little by little due to some injury to the ego. People are genuinely looking out for each other's best interests instead of just the self in connection to the other person.

Where is your venus housed?

Yes.

No. My Venus is in my 2nd house of possession, money and greediness.

Romance where?

I can romanticize myself and my bank account better than I can a man 😆

The Second House is related to our personal finances, material possessions, and the concept of value. While it does rule money, it also covers our emotions, which live inside of us (and often affect us even more than money does). Natal planets in the Second House tend to seek security through their material world.

Here’s my take on romanticism. It wasn’t fed to us. It’s a vision or proclivity that’s innate in some personalities that commercialism and religion exploited to make money and disillusion people further. The further disillusionment in these personalities translated somehow to tolerate evidently bad behaviour in the name of romanticism. Waiting for someone to get their act together, babysitting them, raising them somehow equated with being “kind, tolerable and caring.”

For example, I read some star’s obituary lionized as “a true love story” wherein this man 40 some year old man married a 21 year old naive actress and then went onto have a 7 yr extramarital affair with another actress which the wife knew about and stayed by him. Then, he died and his wife was crying. It was deemed a true love story.

It made me ask: women who leave a cheating partner loves their partner less or less devoted to them? It’s care and love if you turn a blind eye to

Someone’s bad behaviour? Commercialism and religion just basically preyed on romantic personalities and told them this was the definition of true love.

Yes. I couldn't stand how bad my ex required romance, or a romantic partner. She is a Leo sun Aries moon, so I guess it made sense. I'm not really romantic. I like to do fun things with people I love and care about, and enjoy a good time. I also enjoy sex, but that is as romantic as I get. I'm not the type to plain a beautiful V day, anniversary, or birthday. Not saying I wouldn't want to go out and have a nice meal and a fun time, but I'm not the type to hide little letters everywhere or a rose petal trail to the bedroom. I just find that type of stuff cringy. I feel this is likely more genetic then chart related, since my father and grandfather are the same way. We all tend to show love through security and loyalty over romance.

Cancer Venus 1st house.

Posted by Gobbie

Shouldn't this be in The Powder Room?

am too lazy to look for it

The type you read about in romance novels, the type they sing about or the usual theme of some movie... Yes, that's usually pretty far fetched (from reality and what's feasible - long term). After all - most of that stuff is made up (a work of the mind). Not to mention, it's quite common for people to fall in love with stories and symbols. On the other hand... a romantic gesture here and there, even some poetry... that can work. If you write it yourself. Or even a painting - if you're gifted in that regard. Share a song you like - just don't make it your own (expression). That's the issue i have with songs... with someone else's work. You can fall for the words - might even relate to some extent - but i wouldn't call that an accurate expression of one's soul. More like - borrowed... romance.

Same can be said about poetry recitals. Some people have what it takes - to charm others with their voice - even tho, it's not a genuine expression. More like - being gifted at diction - at the way the words are balanced on one's tongue (a speech acrobat - if you will). Tom Hiddleston, Michael Caine or Anthony Hopkins (to name a few) - are true masters at the art of speech. Thus, their book readings can be quite phenomenal or charming - if you will... but it's just acting (entertainment for the masses). Then again, we're talking about the ocean or some lake where the moon glides for the night... in imagery. Nothing is set in stone, as they put it... to each their own.

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Shouldn't this be in The Powder Room?

first romance writers were men. so, no. 😛

Ermmm... but they were catering towards a lucrative market audience: women.

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Romance was created by Libra and Pisces men. History is littered with men like Rumi and Shah Jahan of India.

Romanticism with a capital R? yes.

the best analysis i've heard

The greatest romance is the one you have with yourself. In the immortal words of Ru Paul, if you can’t love yourself how in the hell are you gonna love somebody else?

doesn't poison anything and there's nothing wrong with romanticism.

But it's true that the literary ideal of romantic relationships create expectations, and everybody ends up disappointed

No

Porn does especially to young males

Posted by hydorah

doesn't poison anything and there's nothing wrong with romanticism.

But it's true that the literary ideal of romantic relationships create expectations, and everybody ends up disappointed

i just feel like friendship is much more ideal/appealing than the romantic notion which is often inclined to chaos.

I very much doubt that. It must have been radical in the 18th century, promoting the concept of marrying out of love and enjoying passionate sex. But we grew up with many other ideologies to choose from.

I guess the way it influenced my understanding of love was that commitment means acceptance of a person as a whole, qualities and defects. Was it romanticism though, or a consequence of my upbringing, because I rarely felt accepted as a child? I believe we let ourselves be influenced by whatever suits our personality and needs.

I see romanticism in a relationship as a bonus, not a sacrifice. A sprinkle of magic, not a poison.

2nd house Venus

No it has not. I consider myself a hopeless romantic (was quite closeted about this for the longest time with my cold demeanor). I do agree with @aquarius09 on commercialism and religion exploiting our kind. Like diamonds and Valentine’s Day are so fraudulent. I think I read somewhere statistically most breakups happen around then (even one of mine happened a day or two before V-day 🤣). Often living in my own bubble, I believe romanticism to be very abstract. It is what you make it to be. For me it’s a combination of manifestation and possibly fate. While I can’t easily be bought off with materialistic things I also personally would not be able to stand someone very poetic cause they’d most likely also be water dominant and that’s just a whole can of worms I’d not be able to handle with my singleton water placement. I appreciate being adored, spoiled and swept off my feet to the best of my SO’s ability in whatever way their love language is. An amusing example of modern romanticism to me is men who spell out full sentences instead of using lots of texting slang. It is the sexiest thing ever. It truly swoons my core. You’d be amazed at how uncommon it is becoming. I just love a man who clearly articulates themselves textually when it’s not exactly necessary to. Could possibly even be a form of modern poetry 🥰

I don’t think it’s comparable to friendships at all. It’s just not. The needs can be completely different.

Venus in 2nd house.

True love/romanticism comes from admiring a person. Admiration requires you to humanize a person, which hypersexualized individuals (both men and women) will never know because they objectify the person and can do so for years on end.

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True love/romanticism comes from admiring a person. Admiration requires you to humanize a person, which hypersexualized individuals (both men and women) will never know because they objectify the person and can do so for years on end.

that's what i think too!

must be my 11th house venus

Posted by Undine

I very much doubt that. It must have been radical in the 18th century, promoting the concept of marrying out of love and enjoying passionate sex. But we grew up with many other ideologies to choose from.

I guess the way it influenced my understanding of love was that commitment means acceptance of a person as a whole, qualities and defects. Was it romanticism though, or a consequence of my upbringing, because I rarely felt accepted as a child? I believe we let ourselves be influenced by whatever suits our personality and needs.

I see romanticism in a relationship as a bonus, not a sacrifice. A sprinkle of magic, not a poison.

2nd house Venus

i don't doubt it was radical.

those arranged, reasonable marriages must've been unreasonable. very hard to be with someone you don't feel much for.

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Posted by aquarius09

True love/romanticism comes from admiring a person. Admiration requires you to humanize a person, which hypersexualized individuals (both men and women) will never know because they objectify the person and can do so for years on end.

that's what i think too!

must be my 11th house venus

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The 11th house venus knows what’s good. 😂

Posted by IMNOTEVENREAL

Ive been romantic but if a woman criticze my romantic attention i tell her to die and that she'll finish alone, this is my sag stellium way

No lol. Where is the Sagittarius optimism? 😅😅😅

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Ive been romantic but if a woman criticze my romantic attention i tell her to die and that she'll finish alone, this is my sag stellium way

No lol. Where is the Sagittarius optimism? 😅😅😅

idk ppl look so fake

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There’s a filter for that 🤪