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I don’t know what your relationship with your mom is exactly like since I haven’t experienced it obviously, but growing up my mom was controlling so I can see how this would be annoying if it’s part of a pattern of her not respecting what you want. And if you asked her not to show him the pic she probably should respect that I guess...it just doesn’t seem like a big deal from my perspective because it’s your husband. At least your mom isn’t showing pictures of you as a kid to a girl you just barely started seeing like my mom did once 🙈😬😬😬😬😬

So yeah I get how it can be annoying. Like people here are acting like you’re making too big a deal out of it which maybe you are a little bit, but on the other hand if you’re mom is so insistent on showing him a pic you asked her not to she’s kind of making things too big a deal too

Thanks, see this is an example of a response that doesn’t shit on me but still expresses a different opinion. Why’s that so fucking hard for everyone else?

That’s what usually happens on page 4. The opposition to the opposition

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I'll probably quote it outside this thread too before some cray cray person closes the thread, won't name names
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What are you, 50? Getting off on quoting people. Go away weirdo.
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Posted by halalbae

In all seriousness, Ive looked into my patients natal chart and concluded that mothers of Gemini Moon people usually are very emotionally distant due to the moon/moms mental space or overall personality. There is no heavy familial signatures that are extreme. Moms were typically more immature or lack nurturing qualities

I've always been interested in people's natal Moons and their mothers because there are a lot of complexities and nuances behind it. Luckily there's a lot of literature on it out there (and in a somewhat similar vein, natal Suns and fathers)...usually you can paint a decent picture of how the mother was, and why the child has certain placements/aspects.

I'd agree about the Gemini Moon, with the exception of my little half-brother. My mom was/is overprotective and smothering towards him -- and he has his Moon opposite Pluto. But I wonder about the Gemini placement, because that part doesn't make sense to me. I'm also curious to how you think the early childhood shapes Venus/Mars placements. Like why do I have an afflicted Venus instead of a Moon (which is well-aspected), when I was the child that had the most problems with my mother growing up, while my siblings both have afflicted Moons.

/endpersonalrant

I do have a theory that the Moon is more related with your early childhood (0-4ish), and thus more an unconscious process associated with comfort/the mother. Whereas the roots of one's Sun are developed in a more amorphous range (5-adolescence).

This would explain why you find more eldest children with Water Moons and younger children with Air Moons. It's obv not always the case, but mom is usually more emotionally involved and sensitive to the first child's emotions early on, while being more hands off and chill with younger children (even if she parents them similarly later on in their childhoods).
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I'm just glad I'm not her husband "lol"


You saw her comment about sending intimate photos to his exes?

And that she admits to breaking all her husband's prized possessions when she's mad too?

Sounds very stable and sane
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Someone’s butthurt about something that happened a month ago. Aren’t you supposed to be with your boyfriend from another country?
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I'm just glad I'm not her husband "lol"


You saw her comment about sending intimate photos to his exes?

And that she admits to breaking all her husband's prized possessions when she's mad too?

Sounds very stable and sane

Someone’s butthurt about something that happened a month ago. Aren’t you supposed to be with your boyfriend from another country?


I just read that on a random thread today. And yes I am, we are having a wonderful time. He's in the kitchen cooking for me right now and we are going to a concert later tonight. Thank you for asking 😊
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I’m so happy for you!
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I'm just glad I'm not her husband "lol"


You saw her comment about sending intimate photos to his exes?

And that she admits to breaking all her husband's prized possessions when she's mad too?

Sounds very stable and sane


Fuck! Seriously— Lmao...🤣🤣🤣

What a phsyco bitch!


Gemitati, you are starting to get just like these Scorpios now. I mean I hate to say that and that's about as low as anybody can get. It seems like every threads I pull up to read you on it talking shhh...and making situations worst by giving aid attacking a user as if nano's attack doesn't add feud to the already flames. You not helping any on this thread. I didn't read the whole thing but since I stumbled on your post I haven't seen any contribution from you. I'm really starting to have my doubts about Gemini. And it ain't a good one.
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You still hope I give a damn about anything you are doing or saying?

How stupid are you really— Just give me number between 1 and 10 where 10 is very stupid...20?
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Posted by Arielle83

Bikini pics are normal down here in Oz.

I don’t understand how being 15 in a bikini is inappropriate to show your husband. It’s you, not someone else.

Your mom doesn’t understand why you’re self conscious, because she’s older and prob would kill to be younger again, like you.

At least your mom isn’t Mary Shieler. That’s a mom you shouldn’t talk to.


Exactly. By that logic he shouldn’t see the new born pics or baby bathtub pics of you.
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I'm just glad I'm not her husband "lol"


You saw her comment about sending intimate photos to his exes?

And that she admits to breaking all her husband's prized possessions when she's mad too?

Sounds very stable and sane


Fuck! Seriously— Lmao...🤣🤣🤣

What a phsyco bitch!


Gemitati, you are starting to get just like these Scorpios now. I mean I hate to say that and that's about as low as anybody can get. It seems like every threads I pull up to read you on it talking shhh...and making situations worst by giving aid attacking a user as if nano's attack doesn't add feud to the already flames. You not helping any on this thread. I didn't read the whole thing but since I stumbled on your post I haven't seen any contribution from you. I'm really starting to have my doubts about Gemini. And it ain't a good one.


You still hope I give a damn about anything you are doing or saying?

How stupid are you really— Just give me number between 1 and 10 where 10 is very stupid...20?




It's quite obvious you do since you're responding back to me instead of ignore this post and pretend you never saw it which I really prefer that you do.

And I already know at least one of those likes you've received came from a bully Scorpio and the other from nano. But it's aight. I ain't sweating it.
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So how about YOU following your own advice and pretending you forgot how to type? And I am glad you know your ‘fans’...and your ‘fan’ club has quite a few members you know...

You do know don’t you?
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sometimes we think our mom is posting ugly pics of ourselves because people tend to not like their own childhood photos, but our moms are actually posting cute pics, it's just us who can't see it.

It's normal to not like to see yourself when you look vulnerable and you are not posing and not showing what you think is your good profile, but that's what the people who love us really like to see.

Maybe the OP's mom likes those pics of her girl in more innocent times before se went full schizo
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My mom is a narcissist. she invited me and my husband for dinner today. She said she found old photos of me when I was maybe 15 on vacation in a bikini. She told me how pretty it was and pointed out details like what color the bikini was so that I would remember. She said she wanted to show my husband.

Your mom is not a narcissist. My mom is/was. She destroyed. You speak of your mom's past insecurities, issues with self-image. Narcissists think they are god.

I immediately gave her a disapproving look, and said “no, you don’t need to show him.” She insisted that it was pretty, then I said it’s inappropriate because I was underage then.

So with that information, was I overreacting? Please take note of your initial reaction to this, then read on.

This is like the baby, infant, picture of my with my legs spread before a diaper was put on. I destroyed it but, it was not inappropriate and I owned my own warped embarrassment. Think about art, paintings, sculptures, photos. No, you in a bikini as a girl is not inappropriate. Just like my infant picture, or a picture of my husband as a country boy swimming at the lake at his family farm, in his jockies. Perverts think inappropriate things at such pictures.

Now, I’ll give more details. The year those photos were taken, my mom had my dad put them up on the karaoke monitor for their family dinner party. I told her to take it down before people showed up, but people were already coming in and she didn’t care. My dad is just oblivious or thinks nothing of my feelings either, so he didn’t do anything. I didn’t know how to work the monitor because my dad had set it up.

Family pictures are often embarrassing.

Aside from that, my mother has always embarrassed me, and whether it’s on purpose or just in her blood, I don’t know. It might be cultural.

Family are prone to embarrass us. My mother does the same, so do my uncles. You gotta own your feelings.

But I do know that she was extremely self conscious of her body as a young woman because I saw photos of her from before she had me, in her bikini, and she looked really bashful, covering up her stomach. She also told me she was bulemic, said it in a way that it’s obvious she has a rudimentary understanding of what bulemia is. She would say she made herself throw up, but never mentioned bulemia. I guess where she’s from(not the USA), it’s not discussed as an eating disorder.

You are not describing a narcissist.

But I can only imagine she knows what it’s like to be self conscious and she should be able to translate those feelings into some understanding of why I wouldn’t want her to show my photos to all her friends who were obviously much older than me. My worst assumption is that she is so effed up in the head that she only knows how to deal with her own feelings by making me feel as small as her.

She is living through you. You were not as self-conscious as she was... to the point of bulimia. She is proud of you as she wishe she could be of herself. Seeing you unabashed in your bikini might be healing to her. You are not receiving her feelings. You seem to lack empathy for your mother as an individual. When we become adults, we must begin to see our parents as people. Shed that one-way child view of them as just parents.

I was initially the one who wanted to wear the bikini and it was sort of like an important step in becoming comfortable with my body, because for a long time she would pick out what I was supposed to wear and control me in such ways.

I detached myself from her a decade ago and I have no issues with self image, but it’s irritating that she’s still the same old idiot.

She rejoices in your "important step in becoming comfortable with my body." She missed that step. She didn't make it through like you. She living vicariously through you in that moment and it's healing. Alot of women have this issue. Your mothee joins millions of "idiots."

She will probably text my husband the photos at some point, but I don’t care. If she does at least I will know she’s a piece of shit. I just can’t help wondering if I’m gona turn out to be as retarded as her, embarrassing my kid without any awareness or control over it. It’s also giving me a new perspective on how/why everyone does that to other people and I’m disgusted by how I have done things like that to my own friends, even if it seemed inconsequential to me. Ughhh too much truth for dxp?

Oh yeah, and since this is the astrology and relationships forum, I’ll add that I have Chiron conjunct the ascendant. So it makes sense.

Absolutely correct! Chiron conjunct the ascendant. Do mom's chart too. It will help you see her as an individual. Maybe garner some empathy.


I wasn’t asking for confirmation that she’s a narcissist. I know she is one from other experiences. That was meant to give some background for this one instance but everyone for some reason wants to assume the best, ignoring the details. I have done the research on narcissism thanks.

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Greetings, Blue Velvet.

A.) If you are seeking quality advice here, I think you are mistaken. This place seldom offers advice worth hearing.

B.) If your mother is a narcissist, then I suggest you stop contact with her. Narcissists are notorious for ruining people's lives, and my suggestion to anyone connected to one? Cut all contact. They are horrible people, and are without a cure for their personality disorders.

C.) If your husband is not comfortable dealing with your mother, then so much more the emphasis on Point B.

D.) What are your father's thoughts on her behavior? Does he just go along with it, or does he tell her to cut that shit out?
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Posted by hydorah

sometimes we think our mom is posting ugly pics of ourselves because people tend to not like their own childhood photos, but our moms are actually posting cute pics, it's just us who can't see it.

It's normal to not like to see yourself when you look vulnerable and you are not posing and not showing what you think is your good profile, but that's what the people who love us really like to see.

Maybe the OP's mom likes those pics of her girl in more innocent times before se went full schizo


I disagree. Blue Velvet is making a point that the photos make her uncomfortable, and her mother is proceeding to push the photo anyway. At minimum, this is a direct sign of disrespect toward her, and I wouldn't tolerate that. I have an Aunt who once embarrassed me in front of my former fiancee. She told a really embarrassing story about my childhood, and I had previously told her that kind of behavior is not okay. Because she did it again, I cut her out of my life completely and she tried to emotionally manipulate me for this decision.

I have completely blocked her out of my life because no one will embarrass or manipulate me after they have been warned.

Funny enough, I get this mentality from Michael Keaton's character in Mr. Mom. There is a scene where his former supervisor is rude to Keaton's son. Keaton fires at his supervisor, "If you ever talk to my kid like that again, I am knocking you out!!" Sure enough, toward the end of the film, the supervisor again speaks to his son disrespectfully. Keaton says, "I warned you, Jinks!" And Keaton punches the guy square in the jaw and knocks him to the floor.

You see, I believe in warning people when they do really messed up stuff to me. But if they disregard my warning, then they get what's coming to them.

If people would simply hold some standards in this world, and take proper action against assholes, the assholes in this world would probably be more careful with their asshole behavior.
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U just hate ur mum in general. Shes not doing anything wrong. Shes just being a typical mum showing u off coz its how she shows she loves u.


Her mom loves her even she is hateful bitch of a daughter as she is...but some people just can’t help hating their parents...

tbh i wont date someone who hates his parents

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What is his parents are monsters?

Some people are better off without family involvement in their lives, especially if the family members are horrible people.
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Posted by VenusRetrogade

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U just hate ur mum in general. Shes not doing anything wrong. Shes just being a typical mum showing u off coz its how she shows she loves u.


Her mom loves her even she is hateful bitch of a daughter as she is...but some people just can’t help hating their parents...

tbh i wont date someone who hates his parents

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Well...she is married! Apparently man just have to deal with her...and as I’ve read she is braking his stuff and going all phsyco on him...lucky dude!

I can’t even laugh...
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Posted by VenusRetrogade

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U just hate ur mum in general. Shes not doing anything wrong. Shes just being a typical mum showing u off coz its how she shows she loves u.


Her mom loves her even she is hateful bitch of a daughter as she is...but some people just can’t help hating their parents...

tbh i wont date someone who hates his parents




What is his parents are monsters?

Some people are better off without family involvement in their lives, especially if the family members are horrible people.

if his parents are monsters then he should remove himself from the situation instead of living in hatred.
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I don't hold it against a person if they cut family members out. This is especially true if the family members do bad things to the person.
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Posted by intergalacticplanetary

Narcissists are fairly predictable and very basic at their core. If she’s used that pic before to shame, then chances are she’s using it again to get a similar reaction. Key word, reaction. Don’t react, and they shuffle off to try again another day.



Yeah that was the reason I went into all the detail about it but no one seems to get it because they read the first paragraph and then “oh shit gotta word vomit now”
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Posted by MissKrabs

Those are your pics so it should be your choice who and when will see it. My coworker keeps a pic of her naked daughter when was 11, she has a swim suit but just the pants and tbh i find it kinda of weird. But the coworker is autistic or something no way that she would ever understand.


I wonder if the kid knows. There are parents on Instagram posting every little detail of their kids lives. There was one that has a photo up of a 4 or 5 year old on the toilet and he was yelling angrily at the camera. But they post it anyway and put smiley face emojis like oh that’s cute, he didn’t want me to show him pooping. Wtf
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I can't find a hint of narcissism of your mother from your post. You just sound like you hate her guts for whatever reason. How old are you btw? Sound also very immature. What's the problem of your husband seeing you as an infant? How the hell is that inappropriate? He's your husband ffs! Are you saying you never saw each other's pics when you were kids? Cause that sounds crazy, everyone shares those and there's no reason not to. It's our memories, our past and or childhood, nothing wrong with sharing it with your SO. And don't say cause it's bikini pics cause that makes no difference. Sorry, but you really sounded mean, I can't see a trace of your mother being mean tho, she's being typical mom, showing off her kid, nothing else.

I gave details on why I didn’t want her to give them to him. A few people seemed to get it without me explaining so maybe you didn’t read the post.
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Yes, I think you are overreacting. You see underage kids in bikini all the time at the beach, do you suggest it's inappropriate for them to be there(?)

Did your mom give all her friends your bikini photos when you were 15? Did she put your photo on display on a karaoke monitor that a bunch of old men stared at all night?
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My mom passed away when I was 7 and no, she has not done any of that. Putting your photo on display is wrong, showing it to your husband - not really. I would laugh if it was me and would recall lots of funny memories
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Asian parent mentality. Normal for a great # of them.

No offense. It is what is observed. Yes i live in a predominant Asian environment. See this type of thing all the time. And i mean ALL of Asia.

I knew a lot of Asian families but none of them were like my mom. I already explained to other people on this thread about the other things she has done. I knew a lot of Asian mothers who were aware of the fact that American values would have to take precedence if they wanted to understand their children who were born in America.
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Yes, I think you are overreacting. You see underage kids in bikini all the time at the beach, do you suggest it's inappropriate for them to be there(?)

Did your mom give all her friends your bikini photos when you were 15? Did she put your photo on display on a karaoke monitor that a bunch of old men stared at all night?


My mom passed away when I was 7 and no, she has not done any of that. Putting your photo on display is wrong, showing it to your husband - not really. I would laugh if it was me and would recall lots of funny memories
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Yeah but she knows that I was angry with her about it in the past. I was yelling at her to take those photos down at the age of 15 and she’s like nope. Never listened to a thing i said. Humiliation is what narcissists do.

No one is getting that point because they have never had to deal with someone who gaslights on a daily basis.
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my mom is an aquarius and so fucking embarassing. A total narcissist, thankfully I'm old enought that I don't care

Good for you. At your age I’m guessing she’s pretty much dead. So it’s a non issue.


Holy fkn cow you’re angry.



Brrrrrrrrrrrrr



Did you know Narc rage is often ignited online when someone posts something incredulous like this thread and then goes way off into the wood when people disagree with the narrative.



“All you retards are now thinking so what, some parents are strict and proud of their kids. treetrunk off, you have no idea of the difference between narcissism and strict parenting. You are the reason narcissists exist - while they are infantilizing their children and abusing their partners, they appear harmless and innocent to the people who don’t know them.”

Hello elephant!

You need to fine tune your diyadic perspective taking skills. Your mother is flawed. Join the line.

My mother did unspeakable things to me and I still refuse to talk her down. People are reacting to themselves constantly, internalizing to the enth degree like you have is strange af.



Ps calling people retards in the 3rd Millenia is passé. Chronic eye roll.
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Um nope, I wasn’t angry. You are reading into things. Sorry I meant mentally challenged. It is some kind of moronic for people to say “I know more about your mother than you do and she is a good person!” after reading one post I made, and then shame me for correcting them. So kindly move along.
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Dude from the little interaction we've had you're the problem not your mother



Why are all the CRAZY married but I'm still struggling to find a mate

Life is unfair


CC pair me with your brother, I'm desperate for cap sun pisces moon people 😄


so you're desperate for someone to crush your soul.

seek the light
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Nah I'm enlightened 😄

I know what I want and I'm getting it no matter what lol

Either I call it quits or there's no quit and I set rules. I started practicing last night, I think it works perfectly, only time will tell
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Asian parent mentality. Normal for a great # of them.

No offense. It is what is observed. Yes i live in a predominant Asian environment. See this type of thing all the time. And i mean ALL of Asia.


i'm surprised at how close-minded people are regarding this thread topic.. i think it's coz culturally, they just don't understand what it's like..

most asian parents live vicariously through their children, very controlling, suffocating and how often do they even tell us they love us?

they like to brag about us like we're some kinda trophy/certificate.. yet in private, this does not always translate to affection.. they will insult/ridicule us for being close to perfect but not quite reaching it completely..

you've expressed your feelings about the photo and yet your mother willfully refuses to understand how you feel about it.. not surprised, my grandma wanted my cousin to take up ballet coz she always dreamt about being a dancer as a kid but she married early so it never happened for her.. my cousin hated dancing but was forced to do it coz of her..

do they have any idea how much these people try to control our lives?

when i told my family the choice of study i've made for university, they were furious with me... threatened to cut me off coz they wanted something specific for me.. something i didn't want and i knew would personally make me ultimately miserable..

i fought for what i wanted and they were forced to accept it at some point.. with asian parents, there are things that you want that you may have to fight for... most others don't understand that struggle.. i who have always been obedient wants this one thing and was willing to fight for it... why can't i be allowed this or that when i rarely want something this much?

most people rarely understand that kind of upbringing
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Thanks for sharing. At least I know someone gets it.
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Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.
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Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...
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Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.


Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...
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More reliable than a bunch of dxpers coming at me like “you know nothing how dare you use that word.” The point is everyone there has actual experiences that are common among children of narcissists, they are all very aware of things most of you are merely speculating about. They look at reliable sources of information.
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Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.


Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...

More reliable than a bunch of dxpers coming at me like “you know nothing how dare you use that word.” The point is everyone there has actual experiences that are common among children of narcissists, they are all very aware of things most of you are merely speculating about. They look at reliable sources of information.
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Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.


Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...

More reliable than a bunch of dxpers coming at me like “you know nothing how dare you use that word.” The point is everyone there has actual experiences that are common among children of narcissists, they are all very aware of things most of you are merely speculating about. They look at reliable sources of information.


Such as...
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I know it’s hard to understand people outside of dxpland try to gain insight into concepts that interest or burden them. There are books on the subject written by phds. Not very hard to find.
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Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.


Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...

More reliable than a bunch of dxpers coming at me like “you know nothing how dare you use that word.” The point is everyone there has actual experiences that are common among children of narcissists, they are all very aware of things most of you are merely speculating about. They look at reliable sources of information.


Such as...



I know it’s hard to understand people outside of dxpland try to gain insight into concepts that interest or burden them. There are books on the subject written by phds. Not very hard to find.
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Obviously.

I’m asking you what other sources besides a reddit thread lead you to believe she’s a narcissist.
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Posted by Aqua__

Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.


Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...

More reliable than a bunch of dxpers coming at me like “you know nothing how dare you use that word.” The point is everyone there has actual experiences that are common among children of narcissists, they are all very aware of things most of you are merely speculating about. They look at reliable sources of information.


Such as...



I know it’s hard to understand people outside of dxpland try to gain insight into concepts that interest or burden them. There are books on the subject written by phds. Not very hard to find.


Obviously.

I’m asking you what other sources besides a reddit thread lead you to believe she’s a narcissist.
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The books. It becomes very obvious after reading. Not easy to explain to people who don’t experience it on a daily basis, but children of narcissists often have symptoms similar to ptsd. The interaction causes a lack of security, creates codependency as a result of the parent having zero boundaries. I don’t know why you want me to tell you the sources when they are out there. You want a reading list?
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Posted by Aqua__

Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.


Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...

More reliable than a bunch of dxpers coming at me like “you know nothing how dare you use that word.” The point is everyone there has actual experiences that are common among children of narcissists, they are all very aware of things most of you are merely speculating about. They look at reliable sources of information.


Such as...



I know it’s hard to understand people outside of dxpland try to gain insight into concepts that interest or burden them. There are books on the subject written by phds. Not very hard to find.


Obviously.

I’m asking you what other sources besides a reddit thread lead you to believe she’s a narcissist.

The books. It becomes very obvious after reading. Not easy to explain to people who don’t experience it on a daily basis, but children of narcissists often have symptoms similar to ptsd. The interaction causes a lack of security, creates codependency as a result of the parent having zero boundaries. I don’t know why you want me to tell you the sources when they are out there. You want a reading list?
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I’d love to get one other source from you than reddit and books.
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Posted by BlueVelvet

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Posted by BlueVelvet

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Posted by Aqua__

Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.


Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...

More reliable than a bunch of dxpers coming at me like “you know nothing how dare you use that word.” The point is everyone there has actual experiences that are common among children of narcissists, they are all very aware of things most of you are merely speculating about. They look at reliable sources of information.


Such as...



I know it’s hard to understand people outside of dxpland try to gain insight into concepts that interest or burden them. There are books on the subject written by phds. Not very hard to find.


Obviously.

I’m asking you what other sources besides a reddit thread lead you to believe she’s a narcissist.

The books. It becomes very obvious after reading. Not easy to explain to people who don’t experience it on a daily basis, but children of narcissists often have symptoms similar to ptsd. The interaction causes a lack of security, creates codependency as a result of the parent having zero boundaries. I don’t know why you want me to tell you the sources when they are out there. You want a reading list?


I’d love to get one other source from you than reddit and books.
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A therapist? Do you know that narcissists are the least likeliest people to ever go to a therapist or a psychiatrist and get diagnosed? It’s pretty much undiagnosable for them because the narcissists will lie through their teeth.
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Posted by Aqua__

Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.


Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...

More reliable than a bunch of dxpers coming at me like “you know nothing how dare you use that word.” The point is everyone there has actual experiences that are common among children of narcissists, they are all very aware of things most of you are merely speculating about. They look at reliable sources of information.


Such as...



I know it’s hard to understand people outside of dxpland try to gain insight into concepts that interest or burden them. There are books on the subject written by phds. Not very hard to find.


Obviously.

I’m asking you what other sources besides a reddit thread lead you to believe she’s a narcissist.

The books. It becomes very obvious after reading. Not easy to explain to people who don’t experience it on a daily basis, but children of narcissists often have symptoms similar to ptsd. The interaction causes a lack of security, creates codependency as a result of the parent having zero boundaries. I don’t know why you want me to tell you the sources when they are out there. You want a reading list?


I’d love to get one other source from you than reddit and books.

A therapist? Do you know that narcissists are the least likeliest people to ever go to a therapist or a psychiatrist and get diagnosed? It’s pretty much undiagnosable for them because the narcissists will lie through their teeth.
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So your therapist labeled your mom a narcissist? Did you guys do a group sesh or was it just based on your perspective on things.
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Posted by Aqua__

Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.


Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...

More reliable than a bunch of dxpers coming at me like “you know nothing how dare you use that word.” The point is everyone there has actual experiences that are common among children of narcissists, they are all very aware of things most of you are merely speculating about. They look at reliable sources of information.


Such as...



I know it’s hard to understand people outside of dxpland try to gain insight into concepts that interest or burden them. There are books on the subject written by phds. Not very hard to find.


Obviously.

I’m asking you what other sources besides a reddit thread lead you to believe she’s a narcissist.

The books. It becomes very obvious after reading. Not easy to explain to people who don’t experience it on a daily basis, but children of narcissists often have symptoms similar to ptsd. The interaction causes a lack of security, creates codependency as a result of the parent having zero boundaries. I don’t know why you want me to tell you the sources when they are out there. You want a reading list?


I’d love to get one other source from you than reddit and books.

A therapist? Do you know that narcissists are the least likeliest people to ever go to a therapist or a psychiatrist and get diagnosed? It’s pretty much undiagnosable for them because the narcissists will lie through their teeth.


So your therapist labeled your mom a narcissist? Did you guys do a group sesh or was it just based on your perspective on things.
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No, I meant that it wouldn’t help as a source. She would never go. So what kinda source are you looking for? The research is out there, so what?

Also, I mentioned to someone else that people who know her have confirmed that they felt she had issues. I have talked to family friends recently and they’d say “it was always about her” or that they recognized me and my father were depressed and they worried about us but didn’t want to disturb the peace. Her own friends that she would invite to my house argued with her and expressed clearly to her that they didn’t trust her. My father would say she’s mentally ill only in mutters, because they don’t believe in mental treatment. I know that doesn’t necessarily mean she’s a narcissist but all the details I have seen add up. I don’t know if you are wanting me to prove it to you because I could go on. I already gave some details to others and they just shut up after that. So i’m just wondering how much I need to share since no one really cares in the end.
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Posted by Aqua__

Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.


Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...

More reliable than a bunch of dxpers coming at me like “you know nothing how dare you use that word.” The point is everyone there has actual experiences that are common among children of narcissists, they are all very aware of things most of you are merely speculating about. They look at reliable sources of information.


Such as...



I know it’s hard to understand people outside of dxpland try to gain insight into concepts that interest or burden them. There are books on the subject written by phds. Not very hard to find.


Obviously.

I’m asking you what other sources besides a reddit thread lead you to believe she’s a narcissist.

The books. It becomes very obvious after reading. Not easy to explain to people who don’t experience it on a daily basis, but children of narcissists often have symptoms similar to ptsd. The interaction causes a lack of security, creates codependency as a result of the parent having zero boundaries. I don’t know why you want me to tell you the sources when they are out there. You want a reading list?


I’d love to get one other source from you than reddit and books.

A therapist? Do you know that narcissists are the least likeliest people to ever go to a therapist or a psychiatrist and get diagnosed? It’s pretty much undiagnosable for them because the narcissists will lie through their teeth.


So your therapist labeled your mom a narcissist? Did you guys do a group sesh or was it just based on your perspective on things.

No, I meant that it wouldn’t help as a source. She would never go. So what kinda source are you looking for? The research is out there, so what?
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I’m asking what other sources, aside from reddit, have led YOU to believe she’s a narcissist
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I only read to page 3 but I get you @OP. My mother was a narcissist and if you read the material you know that children of narcissistic parents can have tendencies as well since their patterns are the ones that shaped and molded us. I have to watch myself and I also see it in my sister. I also saw it in a very close friend of many years and wondered about the fact that in the material it also states that we tend to be drawn toward other narcissistic partners, friends, people, etc. at least initially because their aura is, in a way, familiar. I get you and feel for anyone who has a loved one with this condition. I ended up breaking all contact with my mother. What is sad to me is that I feel like I never had a mother figure ... do you also feel like that ? like there isn't a close bond between you ?
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Posted by Aqua__

Your mum does not sound like a narcissist. If she was, it would not be your photo she would be showing around, but her own.

Narcissists evolve everything around themselves and they do put down others, but not in the ways you described. Narcissistic abuse is actually a real thing and what you’ve written sounds more like a mother who loves her child, but might not be the best at expressing it.

Parents and family members have been known for being embarrassing when it comes to baby photos and I know it’s really annoying, but it’s normal. If you don’t like it, then you’re doing the right thing by expressing your concern.

It’s getting annoying when everyone here claims to know what a narcissist is but doesn’t. I have done the research and narcissistic parents are a totally different realm of narcissism from what people know as typical narcissism. There’s a reddit forum dedicated to children of narcissists. I have spent years learning about it and experiencing it so I don’t know why everyone is sitting on their throne of “you know nothing but I know everything”.


Reddit is not a reliable source of information though...

More reliable than a bunch of dxpers coming at me like “you know nothing how dare you use that word.” The point is everyone there has actual experiences that are common among children of narcissists, they are all very aware of things most of you are merely speculating about. They look at reliable sources of information.


Such as...



I know it’s hard to understand people outside of dxpland try to gain insight into concepts that interest or burden them. There are books on the subject written by phds. Not very hard to find.


Obviously.

I’m asking you what other sources besides a reddit thread lead you to believe she’s a narcissist.

The books. It becomes very obvious after reading. Not easy to explain to people who don’t experience it on a daily basis, but children of narcissists often have symptoms similar to ptsd. The interaction causes a lack of security, creates codependency as a result of the parent having zero boundaries. I don’t know why you want me to tell you the sources when they are out there. You want a reading list?


I’d love to get one other source from you than reddit and books.

A therapist? Do you know that narcissists are the least likeliest people to ever go to a therapist or a psychiatrist and get diagnosed? It’s pretty much undiagnosable for them because the narcissists will lie through their teeth.


So your therapist labeled your mom a narcissist? Did you guys do a group sesh or was it just based on your perspective on things.

No, I meant that it wouldn’t help as a source. She would never go. So what kinda source are you looking for? The research is out there, so what?


I’m asking what other sources, aside from reddit, have led YOU to believe she’s a narcissist
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And i’m Asking what you are expecting to hear? What magical source is there besides psychological research that is presented in the form of text? I have my experiences and the experiences of other people who have dealt with the same thing.