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He doesn't want to own anything and I'm completely opposite and not ashamed to admit my wrong. It took everything for me to not call him a little boy I had to walk out and leave the house. I feel that the next few words to come out my mouth is that he needs to move on with his life because trust and honesty is crucial and I don't care how small or big you should never need to lie when you say you want a loving relationship. I told him to stop calling me his spouse and his baby I'm not here to play house with him and it's disrespectful to me when you look me in the face and lie.
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Posted by Arielle83
Pisces men compartmentalize their lives.

If someone isn't intentionally hurt, they see no reason for you to be mad.

Plus your title says you're disappointed and you have trust issues, so that's why he takes breathers from you.

Maybe you're making too many demands and he just wanted a place to sleep.
And Pisces avoid conflict so it was probably easier to tell the op a lie about where and why he was spending the weekend instead of getting into it with her.
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Pisces men compartmentalize their lives.

If someone isn't intentionally hurt, they see no reason for you to be mad.

Plus your title says you're disappointed and you have trust issues, so that's why he takes breathers from you.

Maybe you're making too many demands and he just wanted a place to sleep.
And Pisces avoid conflict so it was probably easier to tell the op a lie about where and why he was spending the weekend instead of getting into it with her.
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Dump his ass, Aquarians and Pisces don't go well together, we are too logical and they are too in tune with emotions neither can see the others intentions, thoughts or feelings clearly...

Piscean men are users and abusers especially if you're a single mother with kids you have no business being with boy, if you want a man in your kids lives make sure he is a true man and not a boy...

don't trust him, he has one leg out the door....you need to start emotionally preparing yourself for a break up and save your money
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@impulsv,

Nov his daughter is in another state in which he has no relation with because of conflict with the mother but he pays support. We live together with my children who are not his children. My whole thing is as a grown man that you wanted to accept me and my children and call us your family who you spend your life with everyday why he would go off to a theme park with a totally different family and lie about and not even tell the family you have.
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@the eleventh sign,

Yeah I believe he has one foot out the door also and like yesterday he blew my phone up at work and then came to my job waiting on me to talk. During the whole conversation he asked me if I believe he loved me I said no. And I told him is about his actions and how he does things. You can't be selfish in a relationship and you can't be a liar either. But he could not see my views and kept justifying what happened as if it was a lastminute idea to go. He doesn't want to admit his wrong. I told him also he kept pressing me to have a conversation with him after I told him to give me space so that I could think but he provoked me to explode and he saw nothing wrong with that and because he was gone the whole weekend he wanted to talk to me. Yet when he is upset and tells me to leave it gives him space till he is ready.

I believe that when you are in a relationship and you know how your spouse is or their weakness or triggers you should be supportive and help them to be a better person. You are not going to find a perfect human being. One of My weakness is that I can and will go off when I hear Bs. I told him that he keep pressing me instead of leaving me alone so that I could come to him when I was more relaxed and able to communicate better and effectively. We can not and shouldn't take when either person is upset. He still did not see my point.

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@Plagued,

It is selfish. He said to me that he had got tickets for us to go in the future( haven't seen the tickets). Going to a theme park is not something you just pick up last minute and do. For the average family it takes planning and the cost can be cheaper when you go in a group. It's a shared memorable experience. That's why I said he had his Intentions. You weren't going to paint a house and help move your friend and his family then all of a sudden you just ended up to go to a theme park. If he didn't not want me and the kids to go with him then just say so. It wasn't a situation when he wanted to get away and have his time with the boys because he has had plenty of those and some more it was an act of selfishness. Maybe he did not want to deal with the cost but we both have an income to plan like a family or maybe he does not really feel or want to own us as his family but why get tickets for the future when you could have done it now.
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Arielle,

Some ways I can think of off my head, when he cuts my sons hair, when he cooks and fixes meals for the kids when I'm unable to or just as a normal task, when he takes his own deodorant and gives it to my son puts it on him and jokes about how a man should take care of himself. When he talks to my daughter and ask her about school and encourages her to be open about her feelings and her curiosity as she is getting older regarding issues that young kids face, when he takes her out to dinner for one on one time because she passed got an Honor Roll, when he sits and help with homework when asked and listens to my daughter read..

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Arielle,

Some ways I can think of off my head, when he cuts my sons hair, when he cooks and fixes meals for the kids when I'm unable to or just as a normal task, when he takes his own deodorant and gives it to my son puts it on him and jokes about how a man should take care of himself. When he talks to my daughter and ask her about school and encourages her to be open about her feelings and her curiosity as she is getting older regarding issues that young kids face, when he takes her out to dinner for one on one time because she passed got an Honor Roll, when he sits and help with homework when asked and listens to my daughter read..
Well I'm pretty sure a babysitter would do all that to an extent. Here is a test for him have him choose between your kids and what he wants. Next time he wants to go out with the guys back him in a corner and make him choose between himself and your kids. Love is about sacrifice, so what is he sacrificing?
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Your right and that's how I see it. But how do you that without coming across as if your forcing a situation or coming across as demanding
That's what being a parent is all about though...fulfilling demands. If he can't do that then it won't work. I say out him on the spot and see if his actions match his words... Make him decide. Force is good, go with the force 😉
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Arielle,

Some ways I can think of off my head, when he cuts my sons hair, when he cooks and fixes meals for the kids when I'm unable to or just as a normal task, when he takes his own deodorant and gives it to my son puts it on him and jokes about how a man should take care of himself. When he talks to my daughter and ask her about school and encourages her to be open about her feelings and her curiosity as she is getting older regarding issues that young kids face, when he takes her out to dinner for one on one time because she passed got an Honor Roll, when he sits and help with homework when asked and listens to my daughter read..
Well I'm pretty sure a babysitter would do all that to an extent. Here is a test for him have him choose between your kids and what he wants. Next time he wants to go out with the guys back him in a corner and make him choose between himself and your kids. Love is about sacrifice, so what is he sacrificing?
No this is not good.

OP you need to stop listening to these Cancer women they will make you look helpless and needy.

These are your kids, they are your responsibility. Don't look at anyone else to do your job. It's not a requirement for a good relationship. These things come through bonding and time. I would hate for anyone I'm in a relationship to force me to do something for their kids. I'd run like crazy.

The fact that this man is doing these things hopefully on his own without being told is good. Let him develop a good relationship with your kids on his own. You can ask for help every now and then but don't be demanding.

The real problem is the lying and sneaking around. Find out why? How he feels about the family. Then from his responses you should decide if this guy is right for you and your family.
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Excuse you, but where in what I said projected "helpless and needy?" Take your crab hate elsewhere. i was joking about the forcing(obviously) but she really does need to see where his loyalty and intentions lie so, yes actions need to be seen from him. Less talking, more actions at this point.
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Arieslove,

Yes he does those things on his own. I have never pushed or forced him to do anything he doesn't want to or that I want him to do. I have told him in the past though that there needs to be a balance between work life and family life and also friends. You can't neglect any but even it out. He just lost me with the lie like you said. When I asked why he made the story that it was not planned it was a last minute idea because they realized it was someone's birthday. You don't just leave home Friday night them end up at a theme park the next day.

Its hard to narrow down the why when he doesnt own the why. I hear everything that you are saying and now and in the future I'm going to focus on a better communication between us so that no feels they will be scorned at or in conflict over the truth. And have conversations about the important things in various ways about various things to see his intentions
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Arieslove,

Yes he does those things on his own. I have never pushed or forced him to do anything he doesn't want to or that I want him to do. I have told him in the past though that there needs to be a balance between work life and family life and also friends. You can't neglect any but even it out. He just lost me with the lie like you said. When I asked why he made the story that it was not planned it was a last minute idea because they realized it was someone's birthday. You don't just leave home Friday night them end up at a theme park the next day.

Its hard to narrow down the why when he doesnt own the why. I hear everything that you are saying and now and in the future I'm going to focus on a better communication between us so that no feels they will be scorned at or in conflict over the truth. And have conversations about the important things in various ways about various things to see his intentions
Good luck!
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Different ideals is what it looks like. He does seem fatherly and that could easily be a sore spot for him. People are selfish like that and turn to making themselves feel inadequate.

Try not to use that against him. Also, relationships are not built by focusing on sacrifice, otherwise you'll just find meaning in screwing up each other's day. If anything, you've both sacrificed enough and you want to know where you can build from here.
In this situation thought the guy lives with the OP and her kids so maybe he is just sticking around for the free ride or because it's a hassle to find another place. It's all about intentions and she needs to find what his intentions are for being with them when his actions speak otherwise of wanting to truly be part of her family. Yes, relationships you sacrifice and vice versa to find common ground.
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Different ideals is what it looks like. He does seem fatherly and that could easily be a sore spot for him. People are selfish like that and turn to making themselves feel inadequate.

Try not to use that against him. Also, relationships are not built by focusing on sacrifice, otherwise you'll just find meaning in screwing up each other's day. If anything, you've both sacrificed enough and you want to know where you can build from here.
In this situation thought the guy lives with the OP and her kids so maybe he is just sticking around for the free ride or because it's a hassle to find another place. It's all about intentions and she needs to find what his intentions are for being with them when his actions speak otherwise of wanting to truly be part of her family. Yes, relationships you sacrifice and vice versa to find common ground.
Sacrifice is a part of love, it's not a foundation for commitment.

You are never going to find out someone's original intentions by forcing them to choose between one value or another. You will change the intent of your relationship entirely by doing so and you've lost the other person. I'm surprised at your views.
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Ok so if he chooses to go out with his guys and ignores the needs of his family that he values his friends more that's ok?
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Arielle,

I'm not trying to school you all I'm saying is telling a lie causes conflict especially when is found out and causes a bigger issue.

And I have told him that. I appreciate your opinion.
Arielle is the biggest NUTcase on here. She's bored...will pop up say anything just to have something to do.

Excuse her
Since you've been on here, alli see is your bitter self putting down other women.

Look at yourself and you will see the unstable one.

Your arrogance is so sad that I hope you work on yourself because that insecure child is struggling.

I was giving the woman the cancer man reasoning, but you, once again need a reason to put down another woman to make yourself feel grand.

I pity you hun
I'm an Aries woman....you only wish I was those things. My confidence is out of this world and my life will always be amazing. If you read any of my comments I'm all about self satisfaction. I love myself just that much and it is always all about me. I don't need your pitiful homemaking, needy, sheltered life. You are Cancer woman just the thought of that makes puke!
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Those who boast are full of shit the most 😉
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Arielle,

I'm not trying to school you all I'm saying is telling a lie causes conflict especially when is found out and causes a bigger issue.

And I have told him that. I appreciate your opinion.
Arielle is the biggest NUTcase on here. She's bored...will pop up say anything just to have something to do.

Excuse her
Since you've been on here, alli see is your bitter self putting down other women.

Look at yourself and you will see the unstable one.

Your arrogance is so sad that I hope you work on yourself because that insecure child is struggling.

I was giving the woman the cancer man reasoning, but you, once again need a reason to put down another woman to make yourself feel grand.

I pity you hun
I'm an Aries woman....you only wish I was those things. My confidence is out of this world and my life will always be amazing. If you read any of my comments I'm all about self satisfaction. I love myself just that much and it is always all about me. I don't need your pitiful homemaking, needy, sheltered life. You are Cancer woman just the thought of that makes puke!
Those who boast are full of shit the most 😉
Yes with Cancer...No with Aries. We are two different women. Obviously you don't know too much about Astrology.
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You just said you soooo confident and shit that's boasting...we Cancer don't do that. If you have to say it, then you ain't got it, full of hot air you are. Nothing to do Bout Astrology.
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Different ideals is what it looks like. He does seem fatherly and that could easily be a sore spot for him. People are selfish like that and turn to making themselves feel inadequate.

Try not to use that against him. Also, relationships are not built by focusing on sacrifice, otherwise you'll just find meaning in screwing up each other's day. If anything, you've both sacrificed enough and you want to know where you can build from here.
In this situation thought the guy lives with the OP and her kids so maybe he is just sticking around for the free ride or because it's a hassle to find another place. It's all about intentions and she needs to find what his intentions are for being with them when his actions speak otherwise of wanting to truly be part of her family. Yes, relationships you sacrifice and vice versa to find common ground.
Sacrifice is a part of love, it's not a foundation for commitment.

You are never going to find out someone's original intentions by forcing them to choose between one value or another. You will change the intent of your relationship entirely by doing so and you've lost the other person. I'm surprised at your views.
I agree. They will only resent you in the end and the relationship is sure to fail.
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You obviously don't get it... He already does and it has already failed.
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Different ideals is what it looks like. He does seem fatherly and that could easily be a sore spot for him. People are selfish like that and turn to making themselves feel inadequate.

Try not to use that against him. Also, relationships are not built by focusing on sacrifice, otherwise you'll just find meaning in screwing up each other's day. If anything, you've both sacrificed enough and you want to know where you can build from here.
In this situation thought the guy lives with the OP and her kids so maybe he is just sticking around for the free ride or because it's a hassle to find another place. It's all about intentions and she needs to find what his intentions are for being with them when his actions speak otherwise of wanting to truly be part of her family. Yes, relationships you sacrifice and vice versa to find common ground.
Sacrifice is a part of love, it's not a foundation for commitment.

You are never going to find out someone's original intentions by forcing them to choose between one value or another. You will change the intent of your relationship entirely by doing so and you've lost the other person. I'm surprised at your views.


Ok so if he chooses to go out with his guys and ignores the needs of his family that he values his friends more that's ok?
Ok by who's values? It's not ok to me, no. It's negligent, and equally so is putting your partner through emotional tests. Basically wishing they were someone else.
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Forget it if you don't get it then I can't help you see from another Pov.
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Arielle,

I'm not trying to school you all I'm saying is telling a lie causes conflict especially when is found out and causes a bigger issue.

And I have told him that. I appreciate your opinion.
Arielle is the biggest NUTcase on here. She's bored...will pop up say anything just to have something to do.

Excuse her
Since you've been on here, alli see is your bitter self putting down other women.

Look at yourself and you will see the unstable one.

Your arrogance is so sad that I hope you work on yourself because that insecure child is struggling.

I was giving the woman the cancer man reasoning, but you, once again need a reason to put down another woman to make yourself feel grand.

I pity you hun
I'm an Aries woman....you only wish I was those things. My confidence is out of this world and my life will always be amazing. If you read any of my comments I'm all about self satisfaction. I love myself just that much and it is always all about me. I don't need your pitiful homemaking, needy, sheltered life. You are Cancer woman just the thought of that makes puke!
Those who boast are full of shit the most 😉
Yes with Cancer...No with Aries. We are two different women. Obviously you don't know too much about Astrology.
You just said you soooo confident and shit that's boasting...we Cancer don't do that. If you have to say it, then you ain't got it, full of hot air you are. Nothing to do Bout Astrology.
Exactly you aren't me. I'm all about self and don't mind talking about myself. I can talk about me all day long. And yes I can back it up. I'm not about to give motherly advice. I'm going to tell her to do it herself or find another. You are weak, and I'm aggressive. Everyone does not have low self esteem and low self worth. Get out your small little world.
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Wow, you really make women look hopeless smh. If you are so strong you wouldn't have to say it, you would just be. You are like a guy with no bal
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@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.

I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.

Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Ok so enjoy being a selfish bitch 😄
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Different ideals is what it looks like. He does seem fatherly and that could easily be a sore spot for him. People are selfish like that and turn to making themselves feel inadequate.

Try not to use that against him. Also, relationships are not built by focusing on sacrifice, otherwise you'll just find meaning in screwing up each other's day. If anything, you've both sacrificed enough and you want to know where you can build from here.
In this situation thought the guy lives with the OP and her kids so maybe he is just sticking around for the free ride or because it's a hassle to find another place. It's all about intentions and she needs to find what his intentions are for being with them when his actions speak otherwise of wanting to truly be part of her family. Yes, relationships you sacrifice and vice versa to find common ground.
Sacrifice is a part of love, it's not a foundation for commitment.

You are never going to find out someone's original intentions by forcing them to choose between one value or another. You will change the intent of your relationship entirely by doing so and you've lost the other person. I'm surprised at your views.
Agreed Tiz.

Sacrifice is a part of love...

Wich means that BOTH have to Sacrifice....

Making someone choose between this or that, as a part of a rule for commitment....is not even a Sacrifice from the partner pov....

Wich means that you (someone) want him to sacrifice...but you (someone) don't want to sacrifice yourself either...

In the end..it's all about finding that spot wich leads to......Respect...for both...

(btw i don't know what this thread is all about..i just read your comment on the last page)

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Exactly, your partner isn't some hamster you just throw into the treadmill. That road is just going to leave them both in denial and buy another 5 years of emotional damage.
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You have taken what I said in a whole other direction. Do you even know what the OP situation. Is?
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@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.

I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.

Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Maybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....

Like yourself.

Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.
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She is no ignorant, everyone knows water is the STRONGEST element 🙂
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@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.

I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.

Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Maybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....

Like yourself.

Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.
That's right you know me. That's why I said Cancer women are small minded. A person's life is only phucked up if they allow it to be. I guess you are implying OP life is a phuck up because she has 2 kids whose father is not around and now she is begging some man to be her kids father?!?

I don't know why I take the time to explain to a low self worth sheltered woman who admitted herself that her life is boring.
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Not nice to speak of your self in that manner... But whatever haha
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@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.

I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.

Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Maybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....

Like yourself.

Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.
She is no ignorant, everyone knows water is the STRONGEST element 🙂
Water is good for washing clothes, making tea and growing house plants.
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Typical Aries just wanna run your mouth and argue. Go burn some leaves and enroll yourself into anger management while you are at it.
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@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.

I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.

Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Maybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....

Like yourself.

Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.
That's right you know me. That's why I said Cancer women are small minded. A person's life is only phucked up if they allow it to be. I guess you are implying OP life is a phuck up because she has 2 kids whose father is not around and now she is begging some man to be her kids father?!?

I don't know why I take the time to explain to a low self worth sheltered woman who admitted herself that her life is boring.
Not nice to speak of your self in that manner... But whatever haha
Let me know when you hear me tell a woman to corner a man and make him choose between her kids and his life.
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He does have to choose, that is the point. He can't be selfish and be part of a family. I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand though so whatever. End of discussion.
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@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.

I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.

Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Maybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....

Like yourself.

Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.
That's right you know me. That's why I said Cancer women are small minded. A person's life is only phucked up if they allow it to be. I guess you are implying OP life is a phuck up because she has 2 kids whose father is not around and now she is begging some man to be her kids father?!?

I don't know why I take the time to explain to a low self worth sheltered woman who admitted herself that her life is boring.
Not nice to speak of your self in that manner... But whatever haha
Let me know when you hear me tell a woman to corner a man and make him choose between her kids and his life.


He does have to choose, that is the point. He can't be selfish and be part of a family. I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand though so whatever. End of discussion.
What family? Am I missing something. He is nothing but a live in boyfriend at best. OP stated its her house, her kids and they aren't married. Typical low self esteem thinking.
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That doesn't even make sense, but anyway yes she even calls him her spouse and they talked about marriage.
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@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.

I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.

Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Maybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....

Like yourself.

Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.
That's right you know me. That's why I said Cancer women are small minded. A person's life is only phucked up if they allow it to be. I guess you are implying OP life is a phuck up because she has 2 kids whose father is not around and now she is begging some man to be her kids father?!?

I don't know why I take the time to explain to a low self worth sheltered woman who admitted herself that her life is boring.
Not nice to speak of your self in that manner... But whatever haha
Let me know when you hear me tell a woman to corner a man and make him choose between her kids and his life.


He does have to choose, that is the point. He can't be selfish and be part of a family. I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand though so whatever. End of discussion.
What family? Am I missing something. He is nothing but a live in boyfriend at best. OP stated its her house, her kids and they aren't married. Typical low self esteem thinking.
That doesn't even make sense, but anyway yes she even calls him her spouse and they talked about marriage.
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Listen to yourself "calls him spouse" "talks about marriage".

Yeah end of discussion with this backwards way thinking. This man probably not taking none of this seriously.
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@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.

I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.

Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Only good for cooking and cleaning LOL that's crazy
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I know, right? I'm not good at either but I can style a bitch, do her hair, makeup and redesign her living room 😄
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Your right and that's how I see it. But how do you that without coming across as if your forcing a situation or coming across as demanding
That's what being a parent is all about though...fulfilling demands. If he can't do that then it won't work. I say out him on the spot and see if his actions match his words... Make him decide. Force is good, go with the force 😉
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This is a horrible horrible idea.
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Look the guy is a Pisces. If you don't know about Pisces men float over to our boards.

I just have to laugh when people state he is with her for a free ride. That is the most pain in the ass free ride I ever heard of.

Pisces isn't made that way, in general. We put others way above ourselves even to the point of being martyrs. If he lied, there is a reason. Maybe he just needed a break. We can't break away if you're living together. Yeah, we lie because he probably thought it would hurt worse than saying I just need a break. Doesn't mean he is childish, means he handled the situation poorly.

If he didn't care about you or you kids, he wouldn't be active with them
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To have him choose or as I see it blackmail him to be like you have to choose to go out with your friends of stay with the family... Damn man. Dude is trapped. Either he gets his breathing room or he is a trapped fish. He may tolerate this for a bit for the cause but I guarentee you that ywither he will leave or you will witness first hand the self destruction of a Pisces... Liquor and all.

Tell him to tell you the truth regardless of how he thinks you will take it and you have to be willing to listen understand and accept those needs to back the fuck away.

I mean I read this entire page and I felt like just swimming away and I'm a single mom of two kids. Good lord. Let the man breathe.