marleneray20
@marleneray20
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Posted by marleneray20Does he live with you, or you and your kids moved into his place?
Arieslove,
Wow you hit the nail on the head. Smh. The fact that he lied about a theme park does say a whole lot and he can not blame me for any thing I decide to do because of his action.

Posted by marleneray20I agree
We need to separate

Posted by Arielle83And Pisces avoid conflict so it was probably easier to tell the op a lie about where and why he was spending the weekend instead of getting into it with her.
Pisces men compartmentalize their lives.
If someone isn't intentionally hurt, they see no reason for you to be mad.
Plus your title says you're disappointed and you have trust issues, so that's why he takes breathers from you.
Maybe you're making too many demands and he just wanted a place to sleep.

Posted by LadyNeptuneYessss, 100% this^^^Posted by Arielle83And Pisces avoid conflict so it was probably easier to tell the op a lie about where and why he was spending the weekend instead of getting into it with her.
Pisces men compartmentalize their lives.
If someone isn't intentionally hurt, they see no reason for you to be mad.
Plus your title says you're disappointed and you have trust issues, so that's why he takes breathers from you.
Maybe you're making too many demands and he just wanted a place to sleep.click to expand



Posted by marleneray20I'm pretty sure Arielle agrees with you, she is just speaking from your guy's perspective🤓
Arielle,
I'm not trying to school you all I'm saying is telling a lie causes conflict especially when is found out and causes a bigger issue.
And I have told him that. I appreciate your opinion.

Posted by marleneray20Well I'm pretty sure a babysitter would do all that to an extent. Here is a test for him have him choose between your kids and what he wants. Next time he wants to go out with the guys back him in a corner and make him choose between himself and your kids. Love is about sacrifice, so what is he sacrificing?
Arielle,
Some ways I can think of off my head, when he cuts my sons hair, when he cooks and fixes meals for the kids when I'm unable to or just as a normal task, when he takes his own deodorant and gives it to my son puts it on him and jokes about how a man should take care of himself. When he talks to my daughter and ask her about school and encourages her to be open about her feelings and her curiosity as she is getting older regarding issues that young kids face, when he takes her out to dinner for one on one time because she passed got an Honor Roll, when he sits and help with homework when asked and listens to my daughter read..

Posted by marleneray20That's what being a parent is all about though...fulfilling demands. If he can't do that then it won't work. I say out him on the spot and see if his actions match his words... Make him decide. Force is good, go with the force 😉
Your right and that's how I see it. But how do you that without coming across as if your forcing a situation or coming across as demanding

Posted by AriesLoveExcuse you, but where in what I said projected "helpless and needy?" Take your crab hate elsewhere. i was joking about the forcing(obviously) but she really does need to see where his loyalty and intentions lie so, yes actions need to be seen from him. Less talking, more actions at this point.Posted by MoonbutterNo this is not good.Posted by marleneray20Well I'm pretty sure a babysitter would do all that to an extent. Here is a test for him have him choose between your kids and what he wants. Next time he wants to go out with the guys back him in a corner and make him choose between himself and your kids. Love is about sacrifice, so what is he sacrificing?
Arielle,
Some ways I can think of off my head, when he cuts my sons hair, when he cooks and fixes meals for the kids when I'm unable to or just as a normal task, when he takes his own deodorant and gives it to my son puts it on him and jokes about how a man should take care of himself. When he talks to my daughter and ask her about school and encourages her to be open about her feelings and her curiosity as she is getting older regarding issues that young kids face, when he takes her out to dinner for one on one time because she passed got an Honor Roll, when he sits and help with homework when asked and listens to my daughter read..
OP you need to stop listening to these Cancer women they will make you look helpless and needy.
These are your kids, they are your responsibility. Don't look at anyone else to do your job. It's not a requirement for a good relationship. These things come through bonding and time. I would hate for anyone I'm in a relationship to force me to do something for their kids. I'd run like crazy.
The fact that this man is doing these things hopefully on his own without being told is good. Let him develop a good relationship with your kids on his own. You can ask for help every now and then but don't be demanding.
The real problem is the lying and sneaking around. Find out why? How he feels about the family. Then from his responses you should decide if this guy is right for you and your family.click to expand

Posted by marleneray20Good luck!
Arieslove,
Yes he does those things on his own. I have never pushed or forced him to do anything he doesn't want to or that I want him to do. I have told him in the past though that there needs to be a balance between work life and family life and also friends. You can't neglect any but even it out. He just lost me with the lie like you said. When I asked why he made the story that it was not planned it was a last minute idea because they realized it was someone's birthday. You don't just leave home Friday night them end up at a theme park the next day.
Its hard to narrow down the why when he doesnt own the why. I hear everything that you are saying and now and in the future I'm going to focus on a better communication between us so that no feels they will be scorned at or in conflict over the truth. And have conversations about the important things in various ways about various things to see his intentions

Posted by tizianiIn this situation thought the guy lives with the OP and her kids so maybe he is just sticking around for the free ride or because it's a hassle to find another place. It's all about intentions and she needs to find what his intentions are for being with them when his actions speak otherwise of wanting to truly be part of her family. Yes, relationships you sacrifice and vice versa to find common ground.
Different ideals is what it looks like. He does seem fatherly and that could easily be a sore spot for him. People are selfish like that and turn to making themselves feel inadequate.
Try not to use that against him. Also, relationships are not built by focusing on sacrifice, otherwise you'll just find meaning in screwing up each other's day. If anything, you've both sacrificed enough and you want to know where you can build from here.

Posted by tizianiPosted by MoonbutterSacrifice is a part of love, it's not a foundation for commitment.Posted by tizianiIn this situation thought the guy lives with the OP and her kids so maybe he is just sticking around for the free ride or because it's a hassle to find another place. It's all about intentions and she needs to find what his intentions are for being with them when his actions speak otherwise of wanting to truly be part of her family. Yes, relationships you sacrifice and vice versa to find common ground.
Different ideals is what it looks like. He does seem fatherly and that could easily be a sore spot for him. People are selfish like that and turn to making themselves feel inadequate.
Try not to use that against him. Also, relationships are not built by focusing on sacrifice, otherwise you'll just find meaning in screwing up each other's day. If anything, you've both sacrificed enough and you want to know where you can build from here.
You are never going to find out someone's original intentions by forcing them to choose between one value or another. You will change the intent of your relationship entirely by doing so and you've lost the other person. I'm surprised at your views.click to expand

Posted by AriesLoveThose who boast are full of shit the most 😉Posted by Arielle83I'm an Aries woman....you only wish I was those things. My confidence is out of this world and my life will always be amazing. If you read any of my comments I'm all about self satisfaction. I love myself just that much and it is always all about me. I don't need your pitiful homemaking, needy, sheltered life. You are Cancer woman just the thought of that makes puke!Posted by AriesLoveSince you've been on here, alli see is your bitter self putting down other women.Posted by marleneray20Arielle is the biggest NUTcase on here. She's bored...will pop up say anything just to have something to do.
Arielle,
I'm not trying to school you all I'm saying is telling a lie causes conflict especially when is found out and causes a bigger issue.
And I have told him that. I appreciate your opinion.
Excuse her
Look at yourself and you will see the unstable one.
Your arrogance is so sad that I hope you work on yourself because that insecure child is struggling.
I was giving the woman the cancer man reasoning, but you, once again need a reason to put down another woman to make yourself feel grand.
I pity you hunclick to expand

Posted by AriesLoveYou just said you soooo confident and shit that's boasting...we Cancer don't do that. If you have to say it, then you ain't got it, full of hot air you are. Nothing to do Bout Astrology.Posted by MoonbutterYes with Cancer...No with Aries. We are two different women. Obviously you don't know too much about Astrology.Posted by AriesLoveThose who boast are full of shit the most 😉Posted by Arielle83I'm an Aries woman....you only wish I was those things. My confidence is out of this world and my life will always be amazing. If you read any of my comments I'm all about self satisfaction. I love myself just that much and it is always all about me. I don't need your pitiful homemaking, needy, sheltered life. You are Cancer woman just the thought of that makes puke!Posted by AriesLoveSince you've been on here, alli see is your bitter self putting down other women.Posted by marleneray20Arielle is the biggest NUTcase on here. She's bored...will pop up say anything just to have something to do.
Arielle,
I'm not trying to school you all I'm saying is telling a lie causes conflict especially when is found out and causes a bigger issue.
And I have told him that. I appreciate your opinion.
Excuse her
Look at yourself and you will see the unstable one.
Your arrogance is so sad that I hope you work on yourself because that insecure child is struggling.
I was giving the woman the cancer man reasoning, but you, once again need a reason to put down another woman to make yourself feel grand.
I pity you hunclick to expand

Posted by AriesLoveYou obviously don't get it... He already does and it has already failed.Posted by tizianiI agree. They will only resent you in the end and the relationship is sure to fail.Posted by MoonbutterSacrifice is a part of love, it's not a foundation for commitment.Posted by tizianiIn this situation thought the guy lives with the OP and her kids so maybe he is just sticking around for the free ride or because it's a hassle to find another place. It's all about intentions and she needs to find what his intentions are for being with them when his actions speak otherwise of wanting to truly be part of her family. Yes, relationships you sacrifice and vice versa to find common ground.
Different ideals is what it looks like. He does seem fatherly and that could easily be a sore spot for him. People are selfish like that and turn to making themselves feel inadequate.
Try not to use that against him. Also, relationships are not built by focusing on sacrifice, otherwise you'll just find meaning in screwing up each other's day. If anything, you've both sacrificed enough and you want to know where you can build from here.
You are never going to find out someone's original intentions by forcing them to choose between one value or another. You will change the intent of your relationship entirely by doing so and you've lost the other person. I'm surprised at your views.click to expand

Posted by tizianiForget it if you don't get it then I can't help you see from another Pov.Posted by MoonbutterOk by who's values? It's not ok to me, no. It's negligent, and equally so is putting your partner through emotional tests. Basically wishing they were someone else.Posted by tizianiPosted by MoonbutterSacrifice is a part of love, it's not a foundation for commitment.Posted by tizianiIn this situation thought the guy lives with the OP and her kids so maybe he is just sticking around for the free ride or because it's a hassle to find another place. It's all about intentions and she needs to find what his intentions are for being with them when his actions speak otherwise of wanting to truly be part of her family. Yes, relationships you sacrifice and vice versa to find common ground.
Different ideals is what it looks like. He does seem fatherly and that could easily be a sore spot for him. People are selfish like that and turn to making themselves feel inadequate.
Try not to use that against him. Also, relationships are not built by focusing on sacrifice, otherwise you'll just find meaning in screwing up each other's day. If anything, you've both sacrificed enough and you want to know where you can build from here.
You are never going to find out someone's original intentions by forcing them to choose between one value or another. You will change the intent of your relationship entirely by doing so and you've lost the other person. I'm surprised at your views.
Ok so if he chooses to go out with his guys and ignores the needs of his family that he values his friends more that's ok?click to expand

Posted by AriesLovePosted by MoonbutterExactly you aren't me. I'm all about self and don't mind talking about myself. I can talk about me all day long. And yes I can back it up. I'm not about to give motherly advice. I'm going to tell her to do it herself or find another. You are weak, and I'm aggressive. Everyone does not have low self esteem and low self worth. Get out your small little world.Posted by AriesLoveYou just said you soooo confident and shit that's boasting...we Cancer don't do that. If you have to say it, then you ain't got it, full of hot air you are. Nothing to do Bout Astrology.Posted by MoonbutterYes with Cancer...No with Aries. We are two different women. Obviously you don't know too much about Astrology.Posted by AriesLoveThose who boast are full of shit the most 😉Posted by Arielle83I'm an Aries woman....you only wish I was those things. My confidence is out of this world and my life will always be amazing. If you read any of my comments I'm all about self satisfaction. I love myself just that much and it is always all about me. I don't need your pitiful homemaking, needy, sheltered life. You are Cancer woman just the thought of that makes puke!Posted by AriesLoveSince you've been on here, alli see is your bitter self putting down other women.Posted by marleneray20Arielle is the biggest NUTcase on here. She's bored...will pop up say anything just to have something to do.
Arielle,
I'm not trying to school you all I'm saying is telling a lie causes conflict especially when is found out and causes a bigger issue.
And I have told him that. I appreciate your opinion.
Excuse her
Look at yourself and you will see the unstable one.
Your arrogance is so sad that I hope you work on yourself because that insecure child is struggling.
I was giving the woman the cancer man reasoning, but you, once again need a reason to put down another woman to make yourself feel grand.
I pity you hunclick to expand

Posted by AriesLoveOk so enjoy being a selfish bitch 😄
@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.
I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.
Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.

Posted by tizianiYou have taken what I said in a whole other direction. Do you even know what the OP situation. Is?Posted by ImTheRamExactly, your partner isn't some hamster you just throw into the treadmill. That road is just going to leave them both in denial and buy another 5 years of emotional damage.Posted by tizianiAgreed Tiz.Posted by MoonbutterSacrifice is a part of love, it's not a foundation for commitment.Posted by tizianiIn this situation thought the guy lives with the OP and her kids so maybe he is just sticking around for the free ride or because it's a hassle to find another place. It's all about intentions and she needs to find what his intentions are for being with them when his actions speak otherwise of wanting to truly be part of her family. Yes, relationships you sacrifice and vice versa to find common ground.
Different ideals is what it looks like. He does seem fatherly and that could easily be a sore spot for him. People are selfish like that and turn to making themselves feel inadequate.
Try not to use that against him. Also, relationships are not built by focusing on sacrifice, otherwise you'll just find meaning in screwing up each other's day. If anything, you've both sacrificed enough and you want to know where you can build from here.
You are never going to find out someone's original intentions by forcing them to choose between one value or another. You will change the intent of your relationship entirely by doing so and you've lost the other person. I'm surprised at your views.
Sacrifice is a part of love...
Wich means that BOTH have to Sacrifice....
Making someone choose between this or that, as a part of a rule for commitment....is not even a Sacrifice from the partner pov....
Wich means that you (someone) want him to sacrifice...but you (someone) don't want to sacrifice yourself either...
In the end..it's all about finding that spot wich leads to......Respect...for both...
(btw i don't know what this thread is all about..i just read your comment on the last page)
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Posted by Arielle83She is no ignorant, everyone knows water is the STRONGEST element 🙂Posted by AriesLoveMaybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....
@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.
I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.
Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Like yourself.
Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.click to expand

Posted by AriesLoveNot nice to speak of your self in that manner... But whatever hahaPosted by Arielle83That's right you know me. That's why I said Cancer women are small minded. A person's life is only phucked up if they allow it to be. I guess you are implying OP life is a phuck up because she has 2 kids whose father is not around and now she is begging some man to be her kids father?!?Posted by AriesLoveMaybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....
@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.
I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.
Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Like yourself.
Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.
I don't know why I take the time to explain to a low self worth sheltered woman who admitted herself that her life is boring.click to expand

Posted by AriesLoveTypical Aries just wanna run your mouth and argue. Go burn some leaves and enroll yourself into anger management while you are at it.Posted by MoonbutterWater is good for washing clothes, making tea and growing house plants.Posted by Arielle83She is no ignorant, everyone knows water is the STRONGEST element 🙂Posted by AriesLoveMaybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....
@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.
I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.
Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Like yourself.
Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.click to expand

Posted by AriesLovePosted by MoonbutterLet me know when you hear me tell a woman to corner a man and make him choose between her kids and his life.Posted by AriesLoveNot nice to speak of your self in that manner... But whatever hahaPosted by Arielle83That's right you know me. That's why I said Cancer women are small minded. A person's life is only phucked up if they allow it to be. I guess you are implying OP life is a phuck up because she has 2 kids whose father is not around and now she is begging some man to be her kids father?!?Posted by AriesLoveMaybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....
@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.
I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.
Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Like yourself.
Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.
I don't know why I take the time to explain to a low self worth sheltered woman who admitted herself that her life is boring.click to expand

Posted by AriesLoveThat doesn't even make sense, but anyway yes she even calls him her spouse and they talked about marriage.Posted by MoonbutterWhat family? Am I missing something. He is nothing but a live in boyfriend at best. OP stated its her house, her kids and they aren't married. Typical low self esteem thinking.Posted by AriesLovePosted by MoonbutterLet me know when you hear me tell a woman to corner a man and make him choose between her kids and his life.Posted by AriesLoveNot nice to speak of your self in that manner... But whatever hahaPosted by Arielle83That's right you know me. That's why I said Cancer women are small minded. A person's life is only phucked up if they allow it to be. I guess you are implying OP life is a phuck up because she has 2 kids whose father is not around and now she is begging some man to be her kids father?!?Posted by AriesLoveMaybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....
@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.
I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.
Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Like yourself.
Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.
I don't know why I take the time to explain to a low self worth sheltered woman who admitted herself that her life is boring.
He does have to choose, that is the point. He can't be selfish and be part of a family. I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand though so whatever. End of discussion.click to expand

Posted by AriesLovePosted by MoonbutterListen to yourself "calls him spouse" "talks about marriage".Posted by AriesLoveThat doesn't even make sense, but anyway yes she even calls him her spouse and they talked about marriage.Posted by MoonbutterWhat family? Am I missing something. He is nothing but a live in boyfriend at best. OP stated its her house, her kids and they aren't married. Typical low self esteem thinking.Posted by AriesLovePosted by MoonbutterLet me know when you hear me tell a woman to corner a man and make him choose between her kids and his life.Posted by AriesLoveNot nice to speak of your self in that manner... But whatever hahaPosted by Arielle83That's right you know me. That's why I said Cancer women are small minded. A person's life is only phucked up if they allow it to be. I guess you are implying OP life is a phuck up because she has 2 kids whose father is not around and now she is begging some man to be her kids father?!?Posted by AriesLoveMaybe you should quit hating on people who aren't fuck ups....
@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.
I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.
Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
Like yourself.
Your energy is draining. Go bite on something cuz you're clenching too much.
I don't know why I take the time to explain to a low self worth sheltered woman who admitted herself that her life is boring.
He does have to choose, that is the point. He can't be selfish and be part of a family. I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand though so whatever. End of discussion.click to expand
Yeah end of discussion with this backwards way thinking. This man probably not taking none of this seriously.


Posted by febyI know, right? I'm not good at either but I can style a bitch, do her hair, makeup and redesign her living room 😄Posted by AriesLoveOnly good for cooking and cleaning LOL that's crazy
@moonbutter and you make women look weak, needy, helpless and undervalued.
I say what I choose. I don't follow your "bite my tongue, worried about what anyone else thinks" standards. Who says people can't value and give credit to themselves?!? You sound like you have self doubt written all over you. Unfortunate you can't speak highly of yourself.
Cancer women are so sheltered and small-minded. Only good for cooking and cleaning.
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Posted by MoonbutterThis is a horrible horrible idea.Posted by marleneray20That's what being a parent is all about though...fulfilling demands. If he can't do that then it won't work. I say out him on the spot and see if his actions match his words... Make him decide. Force is good, go with the force 😉
Your right and that's how I see it. But how do you that without coming across as if your forcing a situation or coming across as demandingclick to expand


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Wow you hit the nail on the head. Smh. The fact that he lied about a theme park does say a whole lot and he can not blame me for any thing I decide to do because of his action.