
Moonbutter
@Moonbutter
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Posted by tbirdYup, I had a male Pisces roommate I get it... And I agree you guys do end up being like Martyrs that's why I said this guy most likely backed himself into a situation he's not ready for but feels he's trapped he doesn't want to hurt them or whatever. That's why he needs a bit of push to see the truth which I'm pretty sure he wants out. His actions speak what he will not say.
Look the guy is a Pisces. If you don't know about Pisces men float over to our boards.
I just have to laugh when people state he is with her for a free ride. That is the most pain in the ass free ride I ever heard of.
Pisces isn't made that way, in general. We put others way above ourselves even to the point of being martyrs. If he lied, there is a reason. Maybe he just needed a break. We can't break away if you're living together. Yeah, we lie because he probably thought it would hurt worse than saying I just need a break. Doesn't mean he is childish, means he handled the situation poorly.
If he didn't care about you or you kids, he wouldn't be active with them

Posted by Arielle83Yup, Pisces co-worker was the biggest lieing pussy and my ex roommate manipulative compulsive liar.
I don't trust Pisces dudes.
Compartmentalization overload.


Posted by marleneray20You're a smart cookie, OP I know you will do what is right for you and your family 🙂
So what has happened is that this pasted week he apologized to me and surprised me with roses. He has not flat out said he lied. It was just an sincere I'm sorry. Which I could tell that he felt some what bad. Anytime that we have gotten into a hug fight and he or I has said it's over it never is. He keeps telling me that if he didn't want to be here that he would not be. There are times when tells me that I put up with him so I know that I am not just totally un willing to let him breathe. I ask for balance and not to be neglected but I feel that it is now considered being nagging in the eyes of some to bring your opinion or standards to a man.
Im going to try the route over the next two months of allowing him as much space as possible and I am not going to say No or question why he does anything he does. I am an Aquarius and believe in freedom. I am very inquisitive about a lot of things also. If I ask you to choose strawberry shortcake over upside down pineapple cake and you choose either over the other I will ask you why just because I want to know if we have something in common or just because I want to hear you say it. If something outright does not add up or make sense I will ask you about it and I will expect the truth and nothing less. Sometimes I will ask a question and know the answer or truth but seeing if you will be honest. There have been times when he has told me he going to a game or whatever with a friend and I say OK and just that. Later to find out he is home. I find this as a test to see how I will react. So I don't fully buy the fact that he needs to breathe.
He argued that night he came home I did not give him a chance to tell me about his weekend. When I gave him more the one. I feel more so that if I catch him in a lie he will not admit to it until way after the fact when he feels bad like what happened in this situation or unless I provide evidence and state the truth.When he knows it's real his words will change.
Moonbutter said it best I believe partly that he has gotten into a situation that he did not prepare for and or ready for because taking of for the whole weekend and then lieing about it is the behavior of someone who is single and does not care it's not about forcing to spend time. In a relationship that is not normal.
The biggest thing I'm afraid of is a split and I can see that he is to also. But it's his responsibility as much as it is mines to keep the relationship a float.
I appreciate the comments again. Not so much the cat fights..lol 🙂

Posted by tizianiYou can't be selfish and claim to love someone, since love is about actions. Therefore you can't not be selfish without some sort of sacrifices.Posted by marleneray20I wouldn't say that's automatically the case.
@Tizani,
I can agree that Sacrifice is love like you said.
Is it fair to say then that if there is no sacrifice in a relationship there is no love? No willingness to sacrifice anything?click to expand

Posted by AquaCancerMoonThis^^^
Marleneray20, you already have your answer. He has told you he wished he had met you before you had kids; he will not commit to this relationship because it is not what he wholeheartedly wants --- so it seems. You need to decide if his behavior is something you can put up with or not.
Why continue to act as if you don't see the red flags? You don't need to keep having talks with him; he's not listening. He's already shown you how he feels (it has nothing to do with his astrological sign). He's a grown man and you cannot raise him. Look out for you and your children and tell him to move on.
If this guy really wants to be in his daughter's life, what's stopping him? The child's mother doesn't have the right to deny him the opportunity to be in his daughter's life. He has certain rights as being a father. Has he made any efforts to get visitation rights?


Posted by ElleDuMondeIsn't that 'normal' in most of America?
I got all the way to page 7...I just can't......
People take their kids to gun ranges for their birthday party—

Posted by ElleDuMondeLol at Chuck e cheese. I'll google wtf that is but is sounds proper shit!Posted by AgentP911I live in the states and have never heard of such a thing 😱Posted by ElleDuMondeIsn't that 'normal' in most of America?
I got all the way to page 7...I just can't......
People take their kids to gun ranges for their birthday party—
Here in the UK we live it real low-key and have trampoline or roller skating parties. If we want to ramp up the excitement we ply the kids with cake and fizzy pop!
The most I have seen is parents going all out and renting one of those bouncy castles. It's usually chuck e cheese...with a bunch of video games and ski ball.
Gun range...that's nuts. I am glad I don't have small children anymore because they would be pissed at me..
.they wouldn't go! If I ever hear that my grandkids are going to one....heads will rollclick to expand


Posted by DollyLuxeI was going to read the entire thread, but this response is top notch. He is second guessing the commitment your relationship requires. Better now than after you guys were to get married and all of that. I'm sure he has seen some of his friends and their failed relationships, and he is scared.
As a single mother, I know how tough things are for you. Your man should be supplementing your feelings towards your kids if he really does care about them. I would talk to him because it sounds like he may want/need some space at the moment. All this responsibility and he may be getting cold feet.


Posted by malloryorLive in bf.
Spouse or bf? Which is it?


Posted by LadyNeptune
From what you've written here it seems like you constantly berate him for not spending enough time with you and the kids. Do you nag, whine and bitch when he wants to spend time with his friends?
He probably didn't tell you the truth because he doesn't want to get into the headache of having you all over his balls for wanting to spend time with his boys.
Posted by marleneray20
I'm Aquarius. My spouse is Pisces. Hi everyone,
Im a lil imbarrased to discuss this with any friends and faI'm going to try to make it a Lil short but any details I'm willing to answer. My boyfriend and I have been together for 2 years we live together. I have 2 small kids who are not his and from a previous relationship. He loves the kids but I'm not quite sure if he 100 percent loves them as his own because There have been 1 incident where he has said he wish he met me sooner where we can have our own kids. I told him I still want kids but we need to be married first and we have talked and planned to marry. We know each other's family and friends and we have done things togethers like family such as barbecue ect but we haven't done much like going out together as a family. If i suggest something he like shows not so much interest. I dont know if its because sometimes I talk about budgeting but its not like i dont want tp enjoy life also. I have been noticing that there are times he likes to go out and enjoy himself drink and turn up without me. Or he will go to his friends who have kids also and there wife around and not invite me or kids and there spouse will text me and be like hey you should come but he himself doesn't invite me. There a lot of times Basically he would spend money on himself but if the cable bill is 30 dollars more or whatever he will crab about it. Then he crabs about saving and certain things I see with him when it comes to being responsible. This is not a situation where its just guys only. He has 1 friend who I know but have never really been around or hung out with. I told him that we need to do something with this particular friend. All of his friends are married with kids. This week at the last minute he tells me he is leaving to go and help his friend move. His friend had already moved but the story was he just closed on a house and he is helping to paint the house. The friend moved maybe a 2 hour drive to another town. I said am I going with you he said no. That next time we would go and enjoy the town barbecue and such. He looked me in the face and gave me a whole story about all the work they had to do and everything. This is what turned me off. I said ok. Mind you he had already knew days before because i overheard him talking but not with much details. last night he friend came to pick him up. When he was leaving I walked him to his friends car but he acted like he didn't want me to when I was just being nice and to say hi to his friend. I guess he thought I would find out because his friend doesn't seem like the kind guy who hides things. So I said hi to his friend and his friends son who was in the car. Anyways I found out that he went on a trip to Orlando to a theme park and got there this morning.

Posted by marleneray20This is the best decision.. and I'll tell you dealing with someone like this.. he will not budge so easily.. he is probably completely comfortable with the living situation.. might not be 100 percent satisfied.. but pisces men don't accept change so well. He will probably tell you he's gonna change for the better and it'll happen for 2 weeks then BAM! He will be right back to his usual ways..
We need to separate

Posted by brezbeautiful88Yup, agreed! You will feel a weight lifted once rid of his lazy ass. Make room for a better man for you and your kids🙂Posted by marleneray20This is the best decision.. and I'll tell you dealing with someone like this.. he will not budge so easily.. he is probably completely comfortable with the living situation.. might not be 100 percent satisfied.. but pisces men don't accept change so well. He will probably tell you he's gonna change for the better and it'll happen for 2 weeks then BAM! He will be right back to his usual ways..
We need to separateclick to expand
Posted by tbirdthey are too INCOMPATIBLE.
To have him choose or as I see it blackmail him to be like you have to choose to go out with your friends of stay with the family... Damn man. Dude is trapped. Either he gets his breathing room or he is a trapped fish. He may tolerate this for a bit for the cause but I guarentee you that ywither he will leave or you will witness first hand the self destruction of a Pisces... Liquor and all.
Tell him to tell you the truth regardless of how he thinks you will take it and you have to be willing to listen understand and accept those needs to back the fuck away.
I mean I read this entire page and I felt like just swimming away and I'm a single mom of two kids. Good lord. Let the man breathe.

Posted by BrightLightWhere do you all come up with this shit at —¨ do you go back and read what you wrote ijs..
A). He's not your spouse. That's just a label you have thrown at him.
B) maybe your kids are brats. Just saying. I'm sure if you all were happy families he'd be happy and proud to take you along. I agree with the poster that he needs a break.
C) a Pisces will lie straight to your face if they think the truth will hurt you. What this means is that your fish dude has learned to lie to you to spare conflict. Think about it. Does he tell you truths that you proceed to cookiemonster about? Be honest with yourself. Are you defensive and emotional when this guy is merely being honest?
D). Of course you need to bring this up to him. Of course you do. You need to set a standard (if it's not too late) but can you do this and still accept an honest answer without wanting to throw a plate against the wall? Calm down Cancer. You've thrown yourself into a very negative mindset. This fish will lie to you all day while he plans his escape if you continue this way of behavior. Stop it.

Posted by 2Moon
classic pisces men... hood rats.
most weak sign to be a man. they make awful human beings. horrible husbands, garbage man and life is a nightmare for their kids...
Posted by Arielle83Sounds like you may have discovered the next multi billion dollar industry. Bounce bars with ball pitsPosted by ElleDuMondeAdult ball pits have a built in corona bar.
It's kind of fun...unfortunately, I have outgrown the ball pit.click to expand

Posted by Arielle83If you have OCD you won't enjoy the ball pits anywhere. Ijs.Posted by ElleDuMondeAdult ball pits have a built in corona bar.
It's kind of fun...unfortunately, I have outgrown the ball pit.click to expand

Posted by 2Moon+1000 the men are human garbage dumps
classic pisces men... hood rats.
most weak sign to be a man. they make awful human beings. horrible husbands, garbage man and life is a nightmare for their kids...

Posted by tizianiPosted by MoonbutterSacrifice is a part of love, it's not a foundation for commitment.Posted by tizianiIn this situation thought the guy lives with the OP and her kids so maybe he is just sticking around for the free ride or because it's a hassle to find another place. It's all about intentions and she needs to find what his intentions are for being with them when his actions speak otherwise of wanting to truly be part of her family. Yes, relationships you sacrifice and vice versa to find common ground.
Different ideals is what it looks like. He does seem fatherly and that could easily be a sore spot for him. People are selfish like that and turn to making themselves feel inadequate.
Try not to use that against him. Also, relationships are not built by focusing on sacrifice, otherwise you'll just find meaning in screwing up each other's day. If anything, you've both sacrificed enough and you want to know where you can build from here.
You are never going to find out someone's original intentions by forcing them to choose between one value or another. You will change the intent of your relationship entirely by doing so and you've lost the other person. I'm surprised at your views.click to expand

Posted by AquaCancerMoon
Why continue to act as if you don't see the red flags?

Posted by marleneray20It says that when he tells her things, when he makes comments to her ... she digs so deep on him that he ends up pacifying her and telling her he wants kids and she falls right in line to comment on how she wants marriage from him first.
When he made that comment it was recent like within the last two weeks but when I tried to dig deeper on that he made it out to be nothing that he is happy and fine with the kids he just wished we created our own kids that's when I told him it's not to late for that but marriage should come before

Posted by brezbeautiful88Posted by BrightLightWhere do you all come up with this shit at —¨ do you go back and read what you wrote ijs..
A). He's not your spouse. That's just a label you have thrown at him.
B) maybe your kids are brats. Just saying. I'm sure if you all were happy families he'd be happy and proud to take you along. I agree with the poster that he needs a break.
C) a Pisces will lie straight to your face if they think the truth will hurt you. What this means is that your fish dude has learned to lie to you to spare conflict. Think about it. Does he tell you truths that you proceed to cookiemonster about? Be honest with yourself. Are you defensive and emotional when this guy is merely being honest?
D). Of course you need to bring this up to him. Of course you do. You need to set a standard (if it's not too late) but can you do this and still accept an honest answer without wanting to throw a plate against the wall? Calm down Cancer. You've thrown yourself into a very negative mindset. This fish will lie to you all day while he plans his escape if you continue this way of behavior. Stop it.
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A) do you know him or her personally.. you don't.. stfu. If she talks to this whimp about moving forward and he does too i.e) the convo they had about doing it all over again.) How is this something that you have perceived from this post
B)so happy kids are not bratty now
C)he is lying through his own intent. He is just a liar.. he lies because it sounds good all pisces do. He dreamed that fair tale story up and thought dreamingly about how she would accept it in his world.
D)so he is not a cancer she's an aquarius. Straight independent he came along and saw a great opportunity he took it.. thats pisces end of story..click to expand
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I want to live with a guy and his kids and then go live my life like I'm completely single and ignore the family I live with haha.