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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.


So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.


And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.


But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.


Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.


He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"


I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡


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He’s still a workaholic….

No change.
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.


So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.


And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.


But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.


Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.


He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"


I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡


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Seems like he’s very stressed. Give him some space & pressure is the last thing he needs.


When people back off, it’s much easier to come forward when you’re highly stressed.


I'm aware he's highly stressed right now. I actually messaged him about this just earlier before this post and he said we can talk about it in person tomorrow. So there's hope for both of us to feel heard and understood 🤗

It's just even if I give him space, I'm scared he will be completely radio silent for the next month. Or barely messaging. And then I'll feel unfulfilled in the relationship.

I can understand what he's going through, but I also can validate the fact that I'd be feeling unfulfilled in this relationship and already am right now. It's about how we both feel after all.

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Seems like he’s very stressed. Give him some space & pressure is the last thing he needs.

When people back off, it’s much easier to come forward when you’re highly stressed.

I'm aware he's highly stressed right now. I actually messaged him about this just earlier before this post and he said we can talk about it in person tomorrow. So there's hope for both of us to feel heard and understood 🤗


It's just even if I give him space, I'm scared he will be completely radio silent for the next month. Or barely messaging. And then I'll feel unfulfilled in the relationship.


I can understand what he's going through, but I also can validate the fact that I'd be feeling unfulfilled in this relationship and already am right now. It's about how we both feel after all.


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Maybe he can’t manage both at the moment ?
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡

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I don't know what are his dreams with how he wants to end up in this career, maybe he wants an empire as a high ranking businessman. I mean he prefers being self employed.

But I'll say, I personally don't need a high ranking businessman as a partner. Yes, financially stable partner is important to me, but as long as he can prioritise emotionally bonding quality time between us just like I do, then I'm happy. It has to be almost equal/as balanced as possible, in my opinion. I have Libra Venus lol the scales.

Absolutely no bringing work on vacation with me.
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Give the man some needed space and get yourself a sex toy, dammit!


He's got serious things to take care of and you're up his ass. If I was him, I'd be like: give me some time to afford the roof over my head first!


Priorities woman! 😅


Sex isn't what I'm needing. It's the fact I feel emotionally disconnected and distant from him at the moment and it's making me feel really isolated and upset.

I'm trying to help him job search. But I don't want this to eat into our quality time together too 😢 the problem is not me not understanding his struggles. It's the fact I don't understand how I can honour both of our issues. Both how he's struggling, and how I feel emotionally distant.
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡

I was married to a Virgo workaholic. We’ve lived separately for many years ….

He’s still a workaholic….

No change.
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Lol I'm Virgo, but with ADHD, I am either hyperfocus or scattered focus. I'm not a workaholic though. I know when to take a break and relax.

Did you ever try to communicate this issue to your Virgo man in the past? I'm just wondering how to do this with my Scorpio man without coming across insensitive, whilst honouring my own feelings too.
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡
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I don't know what are his dreams with how he wants to end up in this career, maybe he wants an empire as a high ranking businessman. I mean he prefers being self employed.


But I'll say, I personally don't need a high ranking businessman as a partner. Yes, financially stable partner is important to me, but as long as he can prioritise emotionally bonding quality time between us just like I do, then I'm happy. It has to be almost equal/as balanced as possible, in my opinion. I have Libra Venus lol the scales.


Absolutely no bringing work on vacation with me.
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"I don't know what are his dreams with how he wants to end up in this career, maybe he wants an empire as a high ranking businessman. I mean he prefers being self employed."

He just wants to stop eating two minute noodles at this stage

You won't be able to have quality time together until he's sound. He will be unable to be comfortably himself and at ease if this is looming over him. Some people are like that, just be supportive where you can.
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Does he have a job too and is working from home? Because college students have plenty of time to do whatever they want, apart from a few weeks during the exams...


He works part time twice a week, but they're not paying him enough or giving him enough hours. It's because not many workplaces wanted to take him on, and his Uni classes blocked up his schedule but now his schedule is freed up more for Summer, he's decided to fill it ALL with work. He wants to find lots of other work, like lots of side hustles, in order to make money for rent since his current job won't give him more hours.

That's why I feel so upset. Where's quality time for us?.. 😢 I just don't feel special at all. It's almost as if he didn't give us any thought for his Summer plans.
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡

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I don't know what are his dreams with how he wants to end up in this career, maybe he wants an empire as a high ranking businessman. I mean he prefers being self employed.

But I'll say, I personally don't need a high ranking businessman as a partner. Yes, financially stable partner is important to me, but as long as he can prioritise emotionally bonding quality time between us just like I do, then I'm happy. It has to be almost equal/as balanced as possible, in my opinion. I have Libra Venus lol the scales.

Absolutely no bringing work on vacation with me.
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"I don't know what are his dreams with how he wants to end up in this career, maybe he wants an empire as a high ranking businessman. I mean he prefers being self employed."


He just wants to stop eating two minute noodles at this stage


You won't be able to have quality time together until he's sound. He will be unable to be comfortably himself and at ease if this is looming over him. Some people are like that, just be supportive where you can.
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That makes sense. Why he's unable to emotionally connect with me like he used to, or doesn't feel able to be emotionally soft, romantic and sweet with me like he is when he's relaxed and just focused on me.

I'm well aware struggling with rent is stupidly hard. So it's no wonder he's off his rocker at the moment and can't focus on anyone but himself right now.

But I guess I'm emotionally struggling to accept that emotional distance and disconnect. Like I'm not here. I'm doing my best to be supportive, but how do I honour the fact I feel this way? What can I do about how I feel though?
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡

Women with high ranking bussiness men understand what it takes. And know it will take 80

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I don't know what are his dreams with how he wants to end up in this career, maybe he wants an empire as a high ranking businessman. I mean he prefers being self employed.

But I'll say, I personally don't need a high ranking businessman as a partner. Yes, financially stable partner is important to me, but as long as he can prioritise emotionally bonding quality time between us just like I do, then I'm happy. It has to be almost equal/as balanced as possible, in my opinion. I have Libra Venus lol the scales.

Absolutely no bringing work on vacation with me.
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"I don't know what are his dreams with how he wants to end up in this career, maybe he wants an empire as a high ranking businessman. I mean he prefers being self employed."


He just wants to stop eating two minute noodles at this stage


You won't be able to have quality time together until he's sound. He will be unable to be comfortably himself and at ease if this is looming over him. Some people are like that, just be supportive where you can.

That makes sense. Why he's unable to emotionally connect with me like he used to, or doesn't feel able to be emotionally soft, romantic and sweet with me like he is when he's relaxed and just focused on me.

I'm well aware struggling with rent is stupidly hard. So it's no wonder he's off his rocker at the moment and can't focus on anyone but himself right now.

But I guess I'm emotionally struggling to accept that emotional distance and disconnect. Like I'm not here. I'm doing my best to be supportive, but how do I honour the fact I feel this way? What can I do about how I feel though?
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Work on fulfilling yourself I guess, read a book in the room with him and don't stress about it. Ask if there's anything you can help him with for work, like help buying some good clothing or making a good CV, practice job interviews lol.
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡

I was married to a Virgo workaholic. We’ve lived separately for many years ….

He’s still a workaholic….

No change.

Lol I'm Virgo, but with ADHD, I am either hyperfocus or scattered focus. I'm not a workaholic though. I know when to take a break and relax.

Did you ever try to communicate this issue to your Virgo man in the past? I'm just wondering how to do this with my Scorpio man without coming across insensitive, whilst honouring my own feelings too.
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Yes all the time

But work is his thing and not so much relationships so how I stayed for so long is beyond me, except we’d a child together.

You can’t change what people are and do … either accept or don’t, I think…

Go live your life and have some fun…
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With that combination of Scorpio/Capricorn, he is not going to budge. He is focused on securing himself financially and you have to try to respect that.


he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month.


This is a pretty big deal. He could potentially be evicted or have utilities shut off if he doesn’t get his things lined up. He is under a lot of stress.. I can understand why cuddling is the last thing on his mind. Try to find ways to nurture yourself independently… I can understand if you are young, but if the two of you were ever to get married, there is no doubt that there would be highs and lows in your relationship like this in which each of you would need to take care of yourself while the other takes care of their business. (Whether it’s work-related, tending to babies, etc).


You’re emotionally reactive and I get it, I’ve been there before. But honestly… he is under enough stress. And it’s not like he is avoiding you or not letting you come around. He just isn’t making you center of his attention while you’re there. Bring a good book or turn on a good tv show to occupy yourself. Just try to step outside of yourself and empathize what he is going through (if it’s really that bad, to the point that he’s struggling to pay bills).


Scorpios and Capricorns are two of the most laser focused signs when it comes to accomplishing goals. He’s unlikely to take his eyes off of that goal until he is financially secure.


Your comment is really validating, helpful and compassionate towards both of us, thank you. I really appreciate that ❤️

I knew that would be the case. It's why I mentioned his Scorpio and Capricorn combo there, to see if this was the reason for the unrelenting focus. And yes, we are both in our very early 20s. I guess it's a good thing this issue has come up now so we know how to deal with it if it comes up in marriage/later life.

I know it's a huge deal for him. That's why I've struggled really hard on how to be supportive, empathetic and not insensitive in communicating with him about this, whilst honouring and communicating my own feelings in reaction to this.

How would you suggest I could nurture myself? Yes, I know how to give self love and self care to myself, but I'm just asking for suggestions as it's helpful to gain a different perspective 🙂
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡
I was married to a Virgo workaholic. We’ve lived separately for many years ….

He’s still a workaholic….

No change.

Lol I'm Virgo, but with ADHD, I am either hyperfocus or scattered focus. I'm not a workaholic though. I know when to take a break and relax.


Did you ever try to communicate this issue to your Virgo man in the past? I'm just wondering how to do this with my Scorpio man without coming across insensitive, whilst honouring my own feelings too.
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Yes all the time

But work is his thing and not so much relationships so how I stayed for so long is beyond me, except we’d a child together.

You can’t change what people are and do … either accept or don’t, I think…

Go live your life and have some fun…
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"Go live your life"

Her life, not yours. Stop projecting your jaded memory's onto this young woman. She's got enough to worry about without being told about your problems.
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With that combination of Scorpio/Capricorn, he is not going to budge. He is focused on securing himself financially and you have to try to respect that.

he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month.

This is a pretty big deal. He could potentially be evicted or have utilities shut off if he doesn’t get his things lined up. He is under a lot of stress.. I can understand why cuddling is the last thing on his mind. Try to find ways to nurture yourself independently… I can understand if you are young, but if the two of you were ever to get married, there is no doubt that there would be highs and lows in your relationship like this in which each of you would need to take care of yourself while the other takes care of their business. (Whether it’s work-related, tending to babies, etc).

You’re emotionally reactive and I get it, I’ve been there before. But honestly… he is under enough stress. And it’s not like he is avoiding you or not letting you come around. He just isn’t making you center of his attention while you’re there. Bring a good book or turn on a good tv show to occupy yourself. Just try to step outside of yourself and empathize what he is going through (if it’s really that bad, to the point that he’s struggling to pay bills).

Scorpios and Capricorns are two of the most laser focused signs when it comes to accomplishing goals. He’s unlikely to take his eyes off of that goal until he is financially secure.

Your comment is really validating, helpful and compassionate towards both of us, thank you. I really appreciate that ❤️


I knew that would be the case. It's why I mentioned his Scorpio and Capricorn combo there, to see if this was the reason for the unrelenting focus. And yes, we are both in our very early 20s. I guess it's a good thing this issue has come up now so we know how to deal with it if it comes up in marriage/later life.


I know it's a huge deal for him. That's why I've struggled really hard on how to be supportive, empathetic and not insensitive in communicating with him about this, whilst honouring and communicating my own feelings in reaction to this.


How would you suggest I could nurture myself? Yes, I know how to give self love and self care to myself, but I'm just asking for suggestions as it's helpful to gain a different perspective
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So I’m in my 40s now but I was in my 20s when I met my sons dad (who ironically is a Capricorn) and he is a workaholic. I dealt with similar situations like that and it wasn’t always easy.. but like I mentioned, books are a good option if you like to read. Writing, painting, tv, cooking, basically anything that you **enjoy** doing (besides him lol) that is how you self nurture. And you’re sharing space with him at the same time… there were times that he was too broke for dates or too exhausted for sex but I still stuck around.


Then after 6 years, we got pregnant and the roles were reversed.. our baby and obtaining my nursing degree became my priority. (I’m the Scorpio) in that case, HE was no longer my priority and he felt neglected and started sleeping with a married woman at work. 🥴 a big part of adult relationships is learning how to self nurture without being so dependent on the other person for your happiness. It’s unrealistic to expect that other person to meet your every need. There will be a time that you will prioritize something over him as well, and you will remember this. Just try to be patient and understanding with him.


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"What can I do about how I feel though?"

Everything! It's your feelings, after all. Your negative thoughts. It's not like your love life, health, relationship, work, career, family, social life are in real danger. His issue is about paying bills and rent, your issue is about your thinking. Could you think about any solution that could minimise his living costs, instead of "too little time for me atm"?

Change your attitude, accept the things you cannot change, embrace the things that you can, and your feelings will follow.
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡
I was married to a Virgo workaholic. We’ve lived separately for many years ….

He’s still a workaholic….

No change.

Lol I'm Virgo, but with ADHD, I am either hyperfocus or scattered focus. I'm not a workaholic though. I know when to take a break and relax.


Did you ever try to communicate this issue to your Virgo man in the past? I'm just wondering how to do this with my Scorpio man without coming across insensitive, whilst honouring my own feelings too.
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Yes all the time

But work is his thing and not so much relationships so how I stayed for so long is beyond me, except we’d a child together.

You can’t change what people are and do … either accept or don’t, I think…

Go live your life and have some fun…
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I think that's what it is. This is the opportunity for me to go off and learn how to have more of my own damn fun!
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡

I was married to a Virgo workaholic. We’ve lived separately for many years ….

He’s still a workaholic….

No change.
Lol I'm Virgo, but with ADHD, I am either hyperfocus or scattered focus. I'm not a workaholic though. I know when to take a break and relax.

Did you ever try to communicate this issue to your Virgo man in the past? I'm just wondering how to do this with my Scorpio man without coming across insensitive, whilst honouring my own feelings too.
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Yes all the time

But work is his thing and not so much relationships so how I stayed for so long is beyond me, except we’d a child together.

You can’t change what people are and do … either accept or don’t, I think…

Go live your life and have some fun…
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I think that's what it is. This is the opportunity for me to go off and learn how to have more of my own damn fun!
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You should but you also shouldn't listen to middle aged women on DXP who are chomping at the bit to tell you your partner is a workaholic, which he isn't, that's just their story over a 5 year long relationship and has nothing to do with your boyfriend struggling to pay his bills.

Boy did I get up on the wrong side of bed this morning
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡
I was married to a Virgo workaholic. We’ve lived separately for many years ….

He’s still a workaholic….

No change.

Lol I'm Virgo, but with ADHD, I am either hyperfocus or scattered focus. I'm not a workaholic though. I know when to take a break and relax.


Did you ever try to communicate this issue to your Virgo man in the past? I'm just wondering how to do this with my Scorpio man without coming across insensitive, whilst honouring my own feelings too.
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Yes all the time

But work is his thing and not so much relationships so how I stayed for so long is beyond me, except we’d a child together.

You can’t change what people are and do … either accept or don’t, I think…

Go live your life and have some fun…

I think that's what it is. This is the opportunity for me to go off and learn how to have more of my own damn fun!
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And if you free yourself up to have more of a life, it’ll help him too as in he won’t feel so under pressure. What do you enjoy doing outside of him that is fulfilling and makes you happy? I remember one of my ex‘s saying *don’t make your love life everything*. He was so right lol.
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Selfish boomers raised the cost of living and stole carefree summers from the young.

Boomers are a minority. The cost of living went up because of pent-up demand, and this is because too many zoomers and co.
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Sure, but who are the ones who had poor contraception choices and birthed the younger generations of today in the first place?
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡

I was married to a Virgo workaholic. We’ve lived separately for many years ….

He’s still a workaholic….

No change.
Lol I'm Virgo, but with ADHD, I am either hyperfocus or scattered focus. I'm not a workaholic though. I know when to take a break and relax.

Did you ever try to communicate this issue to your Virgo man in the past? I'm just wondering how to do this with my Scorpio man without coming across insensitive, whilst honouring my own feelings too.
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Yes all the time

But work is his thing and not so much relationships so how I stayed for so long is beyond me, except we’d a child together.

You can’t change what people are and do … either accept or don’t, I think…

Go live your life and have some fun…
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"Go live your life"


Her life, not yours. Stop projecting your jaded memory's onto this young woman. She's got enough to worry about without being told about your problems.

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It's alright. I mentioned in my post that I wanted to know if anyone has gone through anything similar so I could learn how to navigate a solution 😊
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡

Women with high ranking bussiness men understand what it takes. And know it will take 80

Plus 100 hours

Looking at the success men in my life they answer work phone on vacation but they will provide

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I don't know what are his dreams with how he wants to end up in this career, maybe he wants an empire as a high ranking businessman. I mean he prefers being self employed.

But I'll say, I personally don't need a high ranking businessman as a partner. Yes, financially stable partner is important to me, but as long as he can prioritise emotionally bonding quality time between us just like I do, then I'm happy. It has to be almost equal/as balanced as possible, in my opinion. I have Libra Venus lol the scales.

Absolutely no bringing work on vacation with me.
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"I don't know what are his dreams with how he wants to end up in this career, maybe he wants an empire as a high ranking businessman. I mean he prefers being self employed."

He just wants to stop eating two minute noodles at this stage

You won't be able to have quality time together until he's sound. He will be unable to be comfortably himself and at ease if this is looming over him. Some people are like that, just be supportive where you can.

That makes sense. Why he's unable to emotionally connect with me like he used to, or doesn't feel able to be emotionally soft, romantic and sweet with me like he is when he's relaxed and just focused on me.


I'm well aware struggling with rent is stupidly hard. So it's no wonder he's off his rocker at the moment and can't focus on anyone but himself right now.


But I guess I'm emotionally struggling to accept that emotional distance and disconnect. Like I'm not here. I'm doing my best to be supportive, but how do I honour the fact I feel this way? What can I do about how I feel though?
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Work on fulfilling yourself I guess, read a book in the room with him and don't stress about it. Ask if there's anything you can help him with for work, like help buying some good clothing or making a good CV, practice job interviews lol.
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Hmm yes, some good ideas here. We have this one friend who's a God at writing CVs and passing job interviews actually, I'll have to ask him to help my man's! 😂

I think I have an issue with staying silent but doing your own thing in the same room because I'm Gemini rising where I like to have plenty of interesting conversation in order to stay connected.
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Selfish boomers raised the cost of living and stole carefree summers from the young.

Boomers are a minority. The cost of living went up because of pent-up demand, and this is because too many zoomers and co.

Sure, but who are the ones who had poor contraception choices and birthed the younger generations of today in the first place?
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Boomers birthed the X-generation, not the Gen Z
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡

I was married to a Virgo workaholic. We’ve lived separately for many years ….

He’s still a workaholic….

No change.
Lol I'm Virgo, but with ADHD, I am either hyperfocus or scattered focus. I'm not a workaholic though. I know when to take a break and relax.

Did you ever try to communicate this issue to your Virgo man in the past? I'm just wondering how to do this with my Scorpio man without coming across insensitive, whilst honouring my own feelings too.
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Yes all the time

But work is his thing and not so much relationships so how I stayed for so long is beyond me, except we’d a child together.

You can’t change what people are and do … either accept or don’t, I think…

Go live your life and have some fun…
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"Go live your life"


Her life, not yours. Stop projecting your jaded memory's onto this young woman. She's got enough to worry about without being told about your problems.

It's alright. I mentioned in my post that I wanted to know if anyone has gone through anything similar so I could learn how to navigate a solution 😊
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Virgal's are the best, I'm sure you'll solve this. You should tell him that you feel like there is a wall between you, someone told me that once and it made a lot of sense. And if you make some summer plans with him, where he can't work that'll help.
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He spent half of the time on his laptop...and the other half with you? If yes, maybe try to appreciate this half full cup at the moment, instead of crying over a half empty one...


Maybe he needs a better-paying job. My second cousin used to deliver pizza on a bike to fund his studies, but now works as a part-time delivery driver for Amazon and is far better off.




It's the fact that that half time spent with me, I could feel he was emotionally distant and still thinking about work and distracted by it mentally. That's why I still felt emotionally distant and yearning for his attention. I was the one initiating the cuddles.

He wasn't emotionally present. He actually admitted tonight he's struggling to be emotionally present atm.

And that's why he's been trying to find a bunch of passionate side hustles to do to make money. Since hearing back from companies has been hard for him.
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Selfish boomers raised the cost of living and stole carefree summers from the young.

They're the ones who couldn't be bothered with making good contraception back then and using it and birthed all of us younger generations of today too, which is the worse part about them rising inflation anyway.
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It really is a hard time to be young. I had a pretty good youth that I wouldn't be able to afford now. On the bright side you will grow up stronger than my generation.
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Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

All I see is I... I... I

Life isn't all about funny games, sometimes - or a lot of the time - it's about struggle. Financial struggle, stress. It's during those times that your true colors shine through. And he passed the test. He seems like a guy with his priorities in check. He's not freeloading off you and he's trying make ends meet.

And him borrowing or taking money from you in exchange for "intimate time" is no kind of solution to his problems.

You however, I'm not too sure about. What use are you to me talking about your emotional needs in a house fire?



**Now granted I don't know anything about your relationship, personalities or characters, I'm just responding to your first post.

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He is struggling to pay his bills and has stated you are not a priority to him right now. That doesn’t equal “workaholic” to me, it means he doesn’t want to be homeless. This is bigger and more important than you and your relationship right now and you don’t have an option but to accept it and support him, and right now it means to stop being needy and back off. If you don’t back off, he will potentially see you as another problem.

When you step back and take a look at this situation, he is facing severe financial issues and you don’t feel he’s emotionally present for a cuddle. Your issue seems pretty small in comparison, doesn’t it? Let him figure it out what he needs to and hope that things will go back to normal once everything settles.
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Selfish boomers raised the cost of living and stole carefree summers from the young.


Boomers are a minority. The cost of living went up because of pent-up demand, and this is because too many zoomers and co.

Last I read, boomers still hold a major percentage of ownership of today's housing market, whereas a lot of younger people, including the Scorp in question, have trouble paying mortgage or rent.
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Yeah, today's pensioners are all landlords...they desperately needed this shit in old age to top up their pension...
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Selfish boomers raised the cost of living and stole carefree summers from the young.

Boomers are a minority. The cost of living went up because of pent-up demand, and this is because too many zoomers and co.

Last I read, boomers still hold a major percentage of ownership of today's housing market, whereas a lot of younger people, including the Scorp in question, have trouble paying mortgage or rent.
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Yeah, today's pensioners are all landlords...they desperately needed this shit in old age to top up their pension...
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No they need to be means tested.

Boomers does not mean every goddam old person, It means the ones who creamed it all through life and pulled the ladder up behind them. The super market owners cranking up prices. The landlord class who own rentals, often more than one and are able to secure mortgages without a down payment because they're borrowing of an already established mortgage, they then pay off that mortgage with the money from rent. They then sell the property for far more than it is worth to the next boomer in line doing the same thing. You're absolutely insane to defend these people. This young man is very likely struggling to pay rent which is going directly into someones mortgage for the place he's living in, meanwhile the person who's collecting that rent is living the lush carefree life that the young person does not get to live, traveling and having all the fun.
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Selfish boomers raised the cost of living and stole carefree summers from the young.

They're the ones who couldn't be bothered with making good contraception back then and using it and birthed all of us younger generations of today too, which is the worse part about them rising inflation anyway.
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It really is a hard time to be young. I had a pretty good youth that I wouldn't be able to afford now. On the bright side you will grow up stronger than my generation.
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What generation are you from? I suppose every generation had their benefits and hardships though. Cause I can also name a number of things from back then that today has addressed well.

And I appreciate that. I do genuinely believe Gen Z are the generation who will change the world. The generation breakers as I call us. They call a lot of us snowflakes, but, we're the ones addressing the real problems and doing something about it more than a lot of previous generations who just let it on.
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Selfish boomers raised the cost of living and stole carefree summers from the young.
They're the ones who couldn't be bothered with making good contraception back then and using it and birthed all of us younger generations of today too, which is the worse part about them rising inflation anyway.
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It really is a hard time to be young. I had a pretty good youth that I wouldn't be able to afford now. On the bright side you will grow up stronger than my generation.
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What generation are you from? I suppose every generation had their benefits and hardships though. Cause I can also name a number of things from back then that today has addressed well.

And I appreciate that. I do genuinely believe Gen Z are the generation who will change the world. The generation breakers as I call us. They call a lot of us snowflakes, but, we're the ones addressing the real problems and doing something about it more than a lot of previous generations who just let it on.
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I'm 30 so things were pretty good when I was in my early 20s really. A lot of people my age really cruised through our 20s. Ironic because I'm ranting about boomers now lol.
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With that combination of Scorpio/Capricorn, he is not going to budge. He is focused on securing himself financially and you have to try to respect that.

he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month.

This is a pretty big deal. He could potentially be evicted or have utilities shut off if he doesn’t get his things lined up. He is under a lot of stress.. I can understand why cuddling is the last thing on his mind. Try to find ways to nurture yourself independently… I can understand if you are young, but if the two of you were ever to get married, there is no doubt that there would be highs and lows in your relationship like this in which each of you would need to take care of yourself while the other takes care of their business. (Whether it’s work-related, tending to babies, etc).

You’re emotionally reactive and I get it, I’ve been there before. But honestly… he is under enough stress. And it’s not like he is avoiding you or not letting you come around. He just isn’t making you center of his attention while you’re there. Bring a good book or turn on a good tv show to occupy yourself. Just try to step outside of yourself and empathize what he is going through (if it’s really that bad, to the point that he’s struggling to pay bills).

Scorpios and Capricorns are two of the most laser focused signs when it comes to accomplishing goals. He’s unlikely to take his eyes off of that goal until he is financially secure.

Your comment is really validating, helpful and compassionate towards both of us, thank you. I really appreciate that ❤️


I knew that would be the case. It's why I mentioned his Scorpio and Capricorn combo there, to see if this was the reason for the unrelenting focus. And yes, we are both in our very early 20s. I guess it's a good thing this issue has come up now so we know how to deal with it if it comes up in marriage/later life.


I know it's a huge deal for him. That's why I've struggled really hard on how to be supportive, empathetic and not insensitive in communicating with him about this, whilst honouring and communicating my own feelings in reaction to this.


How would you suggest I could nurture myself? Yes, I know how to give self love and self care to myself, but I'm just asking for suggestions as it's helpful to gain a different perspective
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So I’m in my 40s now but I was in my 20s when I met my sons dad (who ironically is a Capricorn) and he is a workaholic. I dealt with similar situations like that and it wasn’t always easy.. but like I mentioned, books are a good option if you like to read. Writing, painting, tv, cooking, basically anything that you **enjoy** doing (besides him lol) that is how you self nurture. And you’re sharing space with him at the same time… there were times that he was too broke for dates or too exhausted for sex but I still stuck around.


Then after 6 years, we got pregnant and the roles were reversed.. our baby and obtaining my nursing degree became my priority. (I’m the Scorpio) in that case, HE was no longer my priority and he felt neglected and started sleeping with a married woman at work. 🥴 a big part of adult relationships is learning how to self nurture without being so dependent on the other person for your happiness. It’s unrealistic to expect that other person to meet your every need. There will be a time that you will prioritize something over him as well, and you will remember this. Just try to be patient and understanding with him.


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Oh god, I really hope you're separated from this Cap man now? I hope that's not what my Scorp does if I ever did end up getting swamped in priorities. How come you still persevered when he was too broke for dates and exhausted for sex? How did you handle those rough patches? Tbh, my Scorp is in the same position for dates. I'm the one fully paying for both of us at the moment. We're supposed to see a limited time Van Gogh exhibition together soon that I've paid for 😊

I know he's not an arsehole though. He appreciates my offers of help for groceries etc. but he said he doesn't want me to keep spending money on him. He has trouble with accepting being treated on. (I went from dating selfish takers to dating an intense giver 😂). I'm having to remind him in this case, I'd be helping on essential purchases for survival!

Thanks for nicely explaining and displaying what self nurturing is ☺️ got it now. I guess I've got some reconnecting with myself to do instead! I'll report back here with an update on what I end up doing.

I feel like this is the part of mature relationships that needs to be talked about more online within the younger generations. The not fully depending on each other to fill the other's cup of happiness. I feel like social media is filled with extreme displays of surprises of gifts etc. that it's thwarted the younger generations' understanding of what true love really means and includes in it's package. It's some hard self work shit.
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Selfish boomers raised the cost of living and stole carefree summers from the young.

Boomers are a minority. The cost of living went up because of pent-up demand, and this is because too many zoomers and co.

Last I read, boomers still hold a major percentage of ownership of today's housing market, whereas a lot of younger people, including the Scorp in question, have trouble paying mortgage or rent.
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Yeah, today's pensioners are all landlords...they desperately needed this shit in old age to top up their pension...

No they need to be means tested.
Boomers does not mean every goddam old person, It means the ones who creamed it all through life and pulled the ladder up behind them. The super market owners cranking up prices. The landlord class who own rentals, often more than one and are able to secure mortgages without a down payment because they're borrowing of an already established mortgage, they then pay off that mortgage with the money from rent. They then sell the property for far more than it is worth to the next boomer in line doing the same thing. You're absolutely insane to defend these people. This young man is very likely struggling to pay rent which is going directly into someones mortgage for the place he's living in, meanwhile the person who's collecting that rent is living the lush carefree life that the young person does not get to live, traveling and having all the fun.
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It's always been like that... the young are full of energy and health and SOME of the old have accumulated wealth. I'm just poking fun at pointing at one generation (20% of adults) as the cause of inflated prices.
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Selfish boomers raised the cost of living and stole carefree summers from the young.
Boomers are a minority. The cost of living went up because of pent-up demand, and this is because too many zoomers and co.
Last I read, boomers still hold a major percentage of ownership of today's housing market, whereas a lot of younger people, including the Scorp in question, have trouble paying mortgage or rent.
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Yeah, today's pensioners are all landlords...they desperately needed this shit in old age to top up their pension...

No they need to be means tested.

Boomers does not mean every goddam old person, It means the ones who creamed it all through life and pulled the ladder up behind them. The super market owners cranking up prices. The landlord class who own rentals, often more than one and are able to secure mortgages without a down payment because they're borrowing of an already established mortgage, they then pay off that mortgage with the money from rent. They then sell the property for far more than it is worth to the next boomer in line doing the same thing. You're absolutely insane to defend these people. This young man is very likely struggling to pay rent which is going directly into someones mortgage for the place he's living in, meanwhile the person who's collecting that rent is living the lush carefree life that the young person does not get to live, traveling and having all the fun.
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It's always been like that... the young are full of energy and health and SOME of the old have accumulated wealth. I'm just poking fun at pointing at one generation (20% of adults) as the cause of inflated prices.
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They're not a minority though, look at birthrates during that time. Also they're the ones who pulled the ladder up after them, they canceled free education in my country lol. generations before them did not have the attitude they do so "it's always been like that:" is not true. And you talk to a real old timer, they'll tell you with sympathy "we've been through hard times we know what it's like to be in that struggle you're in" they'll say it with sympathy. You compare that to a boomer, who will say "We had it harder than you in the 80s and we didn't moan you just want everything for free" When they did not have it harder at all, they had it so goddam easy and had 3 years of high interest rates on extremely low house prices, easy as.
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡

I was married to a Virgo workaholic. We’ve lived separately for many years ….

He’s still a workaholic….

No change.
Lol I'm Virgo, but with ADHD, I am either hyperfocus or scattered focus. I'm not a workaholic though. I know when to take a break and relax.

Did you ever try to communicate this issue to your Virgo man in the past? I'm just wondering how to do this with my Scorpio man without coming across insensitive, whilst honouring my own feelings too.
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Yes all the time

But work is his thing and not so much relationships so how I stayed for so long is beyond me, except we’d a child together.

You can’t change what people are and do … either accept or don’t, I think…

Go live your life and have some fun…

I think that's what it is. This is the opportunity for me to go off and learn how to have more of my own damn fun!
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And if you free yourself up to have more of a life, it’ll help him too as in he won’t feel so under pressure. What do you enjoy doing outside of him that is fulfilling and makes you happy? I remember one of my ex‘s saying *don’t make your love life everything*. He was so right lol.
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That's a good question that I'm gonna be pondering on more about tonight and for the rest of the next week. Thank you 😄

Lol yes, your ex is right about that to say the least. I come from a narcissistic abusive upbringing, so it's me having to learn about boundaries and how to depend on myself for these things tbh 😅 it's been a journey!
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Selfish boomers raised the cost of living and stole carefree summers from the young.
Boomers are a minority. The cost of living went up because of pent-up demand, and this is because too many zoomers and co.
Last I read, boomers still hold a major percentage of ownership of today's housing market, whereas a lot of younger people, including the Scorp in question, have trouble paying mortgage or rent.
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Yeah, today's pensioners are all landlords...they desperately needed this shit in old age to top up their pension...
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No they need to be means tested.

Boomers does not mean every goddam old person, It means the ones who creamed it all through life and pulled the ladder up behind them. The super market owners cranking up prices. The landlord class who own rentals, often more than one and are able to secure mortgages without a down payment because they're borrowing of an already established mortgage, they then pay off that mortgage with the money from rent. They then sell the property for far more than it is worth to the next boomer in line doing the same thing. You're absolutely insane to defend these people. This young man is very likely struggling to pay rent which is going directly into someones mortgage for the place he's living in, meanwhile the person who's collecting that rent is living the lush carefree life that the young person does not get to live, traveling and having all the fun.
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Haha you're not off about that. The landlord my boyfriend pays to is an easily grumpy, sassy old white man in his 70s from my boyfriend's guess. It's true though. Harsh reality the boomers laid foundations to. But that's why Gen Z is here to change all of that. We're not only addressing problems, but actually going out to do something about it.
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Selfish boomers raised the cost of living and stole carefree summers from the young.

Boomers are a minority. The cost of living went up because of pent-up demand, and this is because too many zoomers and co.

Last I read, boomers still hold a major percentage of ownership of today's housing market, whereas a lot of younger people, including the Scorp in question, have trouble paying mortgage or rent.
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Yeah, today's pensioners are all landlords...they desperately needed this shit in old age to top up their pension...

That's not what I said. I said "a major percentage of owners of the housing market are pensioners", NOT "all pensioners are housing market owners".
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Pensioners are about 20% . To have the majority of the housing market, they need to own 2-3 houses in average per person. Or 4-6 houses per couple.
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I'm literally crying as I type this. But I'd appreciate your guys' opinions on this matter.

So my Scorpio sun, Capricorn rising bf has been really focused on his work and money at the moment because he says he's struggling to afford rent and bills next month. He's a University/college student.

And I've made it very clear that I understand and keep telling him if he needs help buying essential groceries, I am more than happy to buy it and take it to his place.

But his focus on work and finding ways to make money has been eating into our "us time" as a couple as well. I went over to his place last Wednesday and he spent half of the time on the laptop, focusing on his work. And I just laid on his bed watching his TV. Waiting to properly bond and be intimate with each other. But I felt like in that moment, there was a wall in between us. Like we weren't even in the same room.

Even though it was only a few days ago since we hung out in person, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with him. I've been feeling emotionally unfulfilled and alone. The fact I even said "hung out", should tell you, I feel like we've not emotionally spent quality time together recently.

He says his priority is work and money right now. And I told him I understand. But he's acting like he's single. Even if he's cuddling me, I'm initiating it. He's there physically, but not emotionally. I appreciate that he still makes time to talk to me through text but it's not enough.

Because I keep thinking "where's the balance? Where is the time for 'us'?"

I think both of our issues are valid, so I'd appreciate your thoughts and solutions on how to work through this and if you've been through something similar ♡

I was married to a Virgo workaholic. We’ve lived separately for many years ….

He’s still a workaholic….

No change.

Lol I'm Virgo, but with ADHD, I am either hyperfocus or scattered focus. I'm not a workaholic though. I know when to take a break and relax.

Did you ever try to communicate this issue to your Virgo man in the past? I'm just wondering how to do this with my Scorpio man without coming across insensitive, whilst honouring my own feelings too.
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Yes all the time

But work is his thing and not so much relationships so how I stayed for so long is beyond me, except we’d a child together.

You can’t change what people are and do … either accept or don’t, I think…

Go live your life and have some fun…
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"Go live your life"

Her life, not yours. Stop projecting your jaded memory's onto this young woman. She's got enough to worry about without being told about your problems.

It's alright. I mentioned in my post that I wanted to know if anyone has gone through anything similar so I could learn how to navigate a solution 😊
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Virgal's are the best, I'm sure you'll solve this. You should tell him that you feel like there is a wall between you, someone told me that once and it made a lot of sense. And if you make some summer plans with him, where he can't work that'll help.
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Plan to go to limited time Van Gogh exhibition going on in my city soon that I'm fully paying for both of us on since he's financially unable to get his own ticket. And I wanted to go together 😊 but other than that, I'll see what plans we can come up with. He'll likely tell me he wants to spend most of it working though...
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