Dazed
@_Dazed
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Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
i dunno, there wasnt really much of a lack of context. i understood what the question was & where it may have stemmed from. i dont see this as a troll thread.
but i can also relate bc of personal experience so 🤷🏻♀️
I didn't mean that it's a troll thread. I think he wanted answers. I also think he expected people to answer as they did and expected to scold people for not being as open-minded as him. I personally got offended at the idea that wondering if that means he expects the same is "man hating". No, it's the most obvious answer to why someone (male or female) would bring this up as part of a relationship discussion.
i dunno, i dont see him scolding anyone here.
just firm “no” responses & pointing out that everyone immediately jumps on the man for perceived shadiness.
i dont consider that “man hating” but to me, it shows just how romance can really traumatize people.
Why? I don't like sharing my body with the masses. I don't find that to be a radical notion.
why what? i dont understand
is it the romance as trauma thing that you are asking why about?
not sharing your body w/ the masses isnt a radical notion. i think the responses in this thread establishes that.
Sorry for not being clear. I wonder why you view the reactions as trauma instead of logical responses from people who prefer to keep sex within the bounds of the relationship? I would find it very odd to be told I could do something I'd never expressed interest in for no reason at all.
That's assuming we know your sexual preferences.
Why do you judge my response without knowing? Why are your preferences better than mine?
Literally the first words you posted in this thread were judgmental of the man in the scenario.
These were my words...
"I'd assume he wanted to screw around too, which would be a deal-breaker, but I'd get that clarified. It wouldn't make much sense for a guy to say that to me, though, because if he knew me, he'd know I'd have no interest in that."click to expand
You do see what you prefaced that with, right?
Posted by UnwordingPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
i dunno, there wasnt really much of a lack of context. i understood what the question was & where it may have stemmed from. i dont see this as a troll thread.
but i can also relate bc of personal experience so 🤷🏻♀️
I didn't mean that it's a troll thread. I think he wanted answers. I also think he expected people to answer as they did and expected to scold people for not being as open-minded as him. I personally got offended at the idea that wondering if that means he expects the same is "man hating". No, it's the most obvious answer to why someone (male or female) would bring this up as part of a relationship discussion.
i dunno, i dont see him scolding anyone here.
just firm “no” responses & pointing out that everyone immediately jumps on the man for perceived shadiness.
i dont consider that “man hating” but to me, it shows just how romance can really traumatize people.
Why? I don't like sharing my body with the masses. I don't find that to be a radical notion.
why what? i dont understand
is it the romance as trauma thing that you are asking why about?
not sharing your body w/ the masses isnt a radical notion. i think the responses in this thread establishes that.
Sorry for not being clear. I wonder why you view the reactions as trauma instead of logical responses from people who prefer to keep sex within the bounds of the relationship? I would find it very odd to be told I could do something I'd never expressed interest in for no reason at all.
That's assuming we know your sexual preferences.
Why do you judge my response without knowing? Why are your preferences better than mine?
Literally the first words you posted in this thread were judgmental of the man in the scenario.
She's also one of the few who said she'd ask for clarity.click to expand
It is the assumption that I'm questioning.
lol @sleeping with other men/women as long as you are safe
There is no such thing as safe. Each time you fuck someone you roll the dice, condoms or not. Herps doesn't just hang out on the tip of the dick you know. Bump and grind with the wrong pelvic region and you'll have some buddies for life.
There is no such thing as safe. Each time you fuck someone you roll the dice, condoms or not. Herps doesn't just hang out on the tip of the dick you know. Bump and grind with the wrong pelvic region and you'll have some buddies for life.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
i dunno, there wasnt really much of a lack of context. i understood what the question was & where it may have stemmed from. i dont see this as a troll thread.
but i can also relate bc of personal experience so 🤷🏻♀️
I didn't mean that it's a troll thread. I think he wanted answers. I also think he expected people to answer as they did and expected to scold people for not being as open-minded as him. I personally got offended at the idea that wondering if that means he expects the same is "man hating". No, it's the most obvious answer to why someone (male or female) would bring this up as part of a relationship discussion.
i dunno, i dont see him scolding anyone here.
just firm “no” responses & pointing out that everyone immediately jumps on the man for perceived shadiness.
i dont consider that “man hating” but to me, it shows just how romance can really traumatize people.
Why? I don't like sharing my body with the masses. I don't find that to be a radical notion.
why what? i dont understand
is it the romance as trauma thing that you are asking why about?
not sharing your body w/ the masses isnt a radical notion. i think the responses in this thread establishes that.
Sorry for not being clear. I wonder why you view the reactions as trauma instead of logical responses from people who prefer to keep sex within the bounds of the relationship? I would find it very odd to be told I could do something I'd never expressed interest in for no reason at all.
i get that & maybe i am irresponsibly lumping all the responses together. there’s just an overwhelming amount of women who state that they wouldnt trust the man. that suspicion stems from learned behavior. learned from experience w/ a non communicative partner, media, religion, etc etc
but i do think that being kneejerk effected by the concept of “sharing your body with the masses” comes from somewhere... where, i dunno but it seems like a strong response.
im not one to judge on what shapes people but a strong response comes from somewhere... it doesnt magically appear.
I went fully the other direction and became an existentialist at one point.click to expand
I can see some irony here..
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
i dunno, there wasnt really much of a lack of context. i understood what the question was & where it may have stemmed from. i dont see this as a troll thread.
but i can also relate bc of personal experience so 🤷🏻♀️
I didn't mean that it's a troll thread. I think he wanted answers. I also think he expected people to answer as they did and expected to scold people for not being as open-minded as him. I personally got offended at the idea that wondering if that means he expects the same is "man hating". No, it's the most obvious answer to why someone (male or female) would bring this up as part of a relationship discussion.
i dunno, i dont see him scolding anyone here.
just firm “no” responses & pointing out that everyone immediately jumps on the man for perceived shadiness.
i dont consider that “man hating” but to me, it shows just how romance can really traumatize people.
Why? I don't like sharing my body with the masses. I don't find that to be a radical notion.
why what? i dont understand
is it the romance as trauma thing that you are asking why about?
not sharing your body w/ the masses isnt a radical notion. i think the responses in this thread establishes that.
Sorry for not being clear. I wonder why you view the reactions as trauma instead of logical responses from people who prefer to keep sex within the bounds of the relationship? I would find it very odd to be told I could do something I'd never expressed interest in for no reason at all.
That's assuming we know your sexual preferences.
Why do you judge my response without knowing? Why are your preferences better than mine?
Literally the first words you posted in this thread were judgmental of the man in the scenario.
These were my words...
"I'd assume he wanted to screw around too, which would be a deal-breaker, but I'd get that clarified. It wouldn't make much sense for a guy to say that to me, though, because if he knew me, he'd know I'd have no interest in that."
You do see what you prefaced that with, right?
Yes, I assumed the most obvious thing. That's not hatred. That's logic.click to expand
Most obvious to whom? Women?
Posted by LadyNeptune
lol @sleeping with other men/women as long as you are safe
There is no such thing as safe. Each time you fuck someone you roll the dice, condoms or not. Herps doesn't just hang out on the tip of the dick you know. Bump and grind with the wrong pelvic region and you'll have some buddies for life.
You do know that some people like to get tested, and have their partners tested before having sex, right?
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
i dunno, there wasnt really much of a lack of context. i understood what the question was & where it may have stemmed from. i dont see this as a troll thread.
but i can also relate bc of personal experience so 🤷🏻♀️
I didn't mean that it's a troll thread. I think he wanted answers. I also think he expected people to answer as they did and expected to scold people for not being as open-minded as him. I personally got offended at the idea that wondering if that means he expects the same is "man hating". No, it's the most obvious answer to why someone (male or female) would bring this up as part of a relationship discussion.
i dunno, i dont see him scolding anyone here.
just firm “no” responses & pointing out that everyone immediately jumps on the man for perceived shadiness.
i dont consider that “man hating” but to me, it shows just how romance can really traumatize people.
Why? I don't like sharing my body with the masses. I don't find that to be a radical notion.
why what? i dont understand
is it the romance as trauma thing that you are asking why about?
not sharing your body w/ the masses isnt a radical notion. i think the responses in this thread establishes that.
Sorry for not being clear. I wonder why you view the reactions as trauma instead of logical responses from people who prefer to keep sex within the bounds of the relationship? I would find it very odd to be told I could do something I'd never expressed interest in for no reason at all.
That's assuming we know your sexual preferences.
Why do you judge my response without knowing? Why are your preferences better than mine?
Literally the first words you posted in this thread were judgmental of the man in the scenario.
These were my words...
"I'd assume he wanted to screw around too, which would be a deal-breaker, but I'd get that clarified. It wouldn't make much sense for a guy to say that to me, though, because if he knew me, he'd know I'd have no interest in that."
You do see what you prefaced that with, right?
Yes, I assumed the most obvious thing. That's not hatred. That's logic.
Most obvious to whom? Women?
No, to human beings.click to expand
I'm a human being and it wasn't obvious to me.. hence why I asked the question.
Posted by _DazedPosted by LadyNeptune
lol @sleeping with other men/women as long as you are safe
There is no such thing as safe. Each time you fuck someone you roll the dice, condoms or not. Herps doesn't just hang out on the tip of the dick you know. Bump and grind with the wrong pelvic region and you'll have some buddies for life.
You do know that some people like to get tested, and have their partners tested before having sex, right?click to expand
You do know that those tests don't show everything up to date. You need to be retested 6 months later in order for it to be 100% clear.
Also its entirely possible to test false positive/false negative on std screening. They are not accurate 100% of the time.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by _DazedPosted by LadyNeptune
lol @sleeping with other men/women as long as you are safe
There is no such thing as safe. Each time you fuck someone you roll the dice, condoms or not. Herps doesn't just hang out on the tip of the dick you know. Bump and grind with the wrong pelvic region and you'll have some buddies for life.
You do know that some people like to get tested, and have their partners tested before having sex, right?
You do know that those tests don't show everything up to date. You need to be retested 6 months later in order for it to be 100% clear.
Also its entirely possible to test false positive/false negative on std screening. They are not accurate 100% of the time.click to expand
Cool. No such thing as safe sex. Got it.
Thank you right fighter.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
i dunno, there wasnt really much of a lack of context. i understood what the question was & where it may have stemmed from. i dont see this as a troll thread.
but i can also relate bc of personal experience so 🤷🏻♀️
I didn't mean that it's a troll thread. I think he wanted answers. I also think he expected people to answer as they did and expected to scold people for not being as open-minded as him. I personally got offended at the idea that wondering if that means he expects the same is "man hating". No, it's the most obvious answer to why someone (male or female) would bring this up as part of a relationship discussion.
i dunno, i dont see him scolding anyone here.
just firm “no” responses & pointing out that everyone immediately jumps on the man for perceived shadiness.
i dont consider that “man hating” but to me, it shows just how romance can really traumatize people.
Why? I don't like sharing my body with the masses. I don't find that to be a radical notion.
why what? i dont understand
is it the romance as trauma thing that you are asking why about?
not sharing your body w/ the masses isnt a radical notion. i think the responses in this thread establishes that.
Sorry for not being clear. I wonder why you view the reactions as trauma instead of logical responses from people who prefer to keep sex within the bounds of the relationship? I would find it very odd to be told I could do something I'd never expressed interest in for no reason at all.
That's assuming we know your sexual preferences.
Why do you judge my response without knowing? Why are your preferences better than mine?
Literally the first words you posted in this thread were judgmental of the man in the scenario.
These were my words...
"I'd assume he wanted to screw around too, which would be a deal-breaker, but I'd get that clarified. It wouldn't make much sense for a guy to say that to me, though, because if he knew me, he'd know I'd have no interest in that."
You do see what you prefaced that with, right?
Yes, I assumed the most obvious thing. That's not hatred. That's logic.
Most obvious to whom? Women?
No, to human beings.
I'm a human being and it wasn't obvious to me.. hence why I asked the question.
You didn't get asked the question. You asked us what we would do in this scenario.click to expand
IF IT WAS OBVIOUS I WOULD NOT HAVE ASKED THE QUESTION.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
It's kind of funny how the lack of context brings out the worst fears/preconceived ideas from people.
I think that's exactly what you intended.click to expand
Of course he did. He likes observing reactions.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
i dunno, there wasnt really much of a lack of context. i understood what the question was & where it may have stemmed from. i dont see this as a troll thread.
but i can also relate bc of personal experience so 🤷🏻♀️
I didn't mean that it's a troll thread. I think he wanted answers. I also think he expected people to answer as they did and expected to scold people for not being as open-minded as him. I personally got offended at the idea that wondering if that means he expects the same is "man hating". No, it's the most obvious answer to why someone (male or female) would bring this up as part of a relationship discussion.
i dunno, i dont see him scolding anyone here.
just firm “no” responses & pointing out that everyone immediately jumps on the man for perceived shadiness.
i dont consider that “man hating” but to me, it shows just how romance can really traumatize people.
Why? I don't like sharing my body with the masses. I don't find that to be a radical notion.
why what? i dont understand
is it the romance as trauma thing that you are asking why about?
not sharing your body w/ the masses isnt a radical notion. i think the responses in this thread establishes that.
Sorry for not being clear. I wonder why you view the reactions as trauma instead of logical responses from people who prefer to keep sex within the bounds of the relationship? I would find it very odd to be told I could do something I'd never expressed interest in for no reason at all.
That's assuming we know your sexual preferences.
Why do you judge my response without knowing? Why are your preferences better than mine?
Literally the first words you posted in this thread were judgmental of the man in the scenario.
These were my words...
"I'd assume he wanted to screw around too, which would be a deal-breaker, but I'd get that clarified. It wouldn't make much sense for a guy to say that to me, though, because if he knew me, he'd know I'd have no interest in that."
You do see what you prefaced that with, right?
Yes, I assumed the most obvious thing. That's not hatred. That's logic.
Most obvious to whom? Women?
No, to human beings.
I'm a human being and it wasn't obvious to me.. hence why I asked the question.
I notice the men in the other thread are also questioning it.click to expand
Rabbit and bumba? lol The only two.. and known trolls.
They question it, sure..
But can you imagine the outrage if the response was..
"I'd think she is a slut. She just wants to sleep with other men too."
Posted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
It's kind of funny how the lack of context brings out the worst fears/preconceived ideas from people.
I think that's exactly what you intended.
Of course he did. He likes observing reactions.click to expand
SHUT UP WEASEL
No. I was genuinely curious.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
It's kind of funny how the lack of context brings out the worst fears/preconceived ideas from people.
I think that's exactly what you intended.
Of course he did. He likes observing reactions.
And he's stupid good at getting them from me.click to expand
I see no lie here.
Posted by _DazedPosted by dilettantePosted by NotmyrealnamePosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
i dunno, there wasnt really much of a lack of context. i understood what the question was & where it may have stemmed from. i dont see this as a troll thread.
but i can also relate bc of personal experience so 🤷🏻♀️
I didn't mean that it's a troll thread. I think he wanted answers. I also think he expected people to answer as they did and expected to scold people for not being as open-minded as him. I personally got offended at the idea that wondering if that means he expects the same is "man hating". No, it's the most obvious answer to why someone (male or female) would bring this up as part of a relationship discussion.
i dunno, i dont see him scolding anyone here.
just firm “no” responses & pointing out that everyone immediately jumps on the man for perceived shadiness.
i dont consider that “man hating” but to me, it shows just how romance can really traumatize people.
To be fair we do unfortunately live in the world that has shown the most prevalent scenario to be the one brought up. If we answer that we would have natural suspicions and seek clarification that is obviously the course that makes the most sense 🤷♀️
to me, it reads as projecting former relationship trauma onto the companion.
suspicion isnt natural, it’s a learned behavior. learned by lack of trust from others.
“he wants me to sleep with someone else.. he MUST be up to something”, stems from a learned behavior. not an inherent one.
@nikkistar and I were discussing this earlier..
I thought maybe it was social engineering of sorts via TV/film/etc.
She went with religion.click to expand
I went with religion because during Pagan times, prior to Christianity/Catholic religion, sex was not depicted in an amoral context. Greeks. Romans, etc... participated in sexual exhibitions that we find "taboo" in today's age. Sex was done between men, and accepted wildly and not frowned upon. It was a social norm to see sex openly done at celebrations. There wasn't this weird judgment around sex during those times.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by dilettantePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
i dunno, there wasnt really much of a lack of context. i understood what the question was & where it may have stemmed from. i dont see this as a troll thread.
but i can also relate bc of personal experience so 🤷🏻♀️
I didn't mean that it's a troll thread. I think he wanted answers. I also think he expected people to answer as they did and expected to scold people for not being as open-minded as him. I personally got offended at the idea that wondering if that means he expects the same is "man hating". No, it's the most obvious answer to why someone (male or female) would bring this up as part of a relationship discussion.
i dunno, i dont see him scolding anyone here.
just firm “no” responses & pointing out that everyone immediately jumps on the man for perceived shadiness.
i dont consider that “man hating” but to me, it shows just how romance can really traumatize people.
Why? I don't like sharing my body with the masses. I don't find that to be a radical notion.
why what? i dont understand
is it the romance as trauma thing that you are asking why about?
not sharing your body w/ the masses isnt a radical notion. i think the responses in this thread establishes that.
Sorry for not being clear. I wonder why you view the reactions as trauma instead of logical responses from people who prefer to keep sex within the bounds of the relationship? I would find it very odd to be told I could do something I'd never expressed interest in for no reason at all.
That's assuming we know your sexual preferences.
Why do you judge my response without knowing? Why are your preferences better than mine?
Literally the first words you posted in this thread were judgmental of the man in the scenario.
These were my words...
"I'd assume he wanted to screw around too, which would be a deal-breaker, but I'd get that clarified. It wouldn't make much sense for a guy to say that to me, though, because if he knew me, he'd know I'd have no interest in that."
You do see what you prefaced that with, right?
Yes, I assumed the most obvious thing. That's not hatred. That's logic.
Most obvious to whom? Women?
No, to human beings.
I'm a human being and it wasn't obvious to me.. hence why I asked the question.
I notice the men in the other thread are also questioning it.
Rabbit and bumba? lol The only two.. and known trolls.
They question it, sure..
But can you imagine the outrage if the response was..
"I'd think she is a slut. She just wants to sleep with other men too."
No one here called the man a slut, did they?
And Skeleton DID.click to expand
We all know that's what you were insinuating. Am I right, or amirite?
Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by nikkistar
Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
It's kind of funny how the lack of context brings out the worst fears/preconceived ideas from people.
I think that's exactly what you intended.
Of course he did. He likes observing reactions.
SHUT UP WEASEL
No. I was genuinely curious.click to expand
You like observing, just as much as I do. DONT LIE TWIN
Ps.. Skeleton is a woman.
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Sex =/= Intimacy
They are related to me. I can't even fathom how they aren't for most people. It's the most private parts of your body and actions.
And to each their own. But within the constructs of this thread. The "man" is offering the "woman" to find sexual gratification due to his lack of needing physical sex. For this "man" sex does not equate to intimacy. And the man is secure enough within himself, to understand that his "partner" needs a certain level of sexual gratification that he can not fulfill himself.
Intimacy there for is most paramount. Intimacy is needed within a romantic relationship. Which can be achieved without sex. Therefore sex =/= to intimacy. It can add to intimacy within a romantic relationship, but it is not the ONLY avenue to increase intimacy in a couple.
Well, okay, I can agree with that. @Dazed didn't give us any of that context, though.
i dunno, there wasnt really much of a lack of context. i understood what the question was & where it may have stemmed from. i dont see this as a troll thread.
but i can also relate bc of personal experience so 🤷🏻♀️
I didn't mean that it's a troll thread. I think he wanted answers. I also think he expected people to answer as they did and expected to scold people for not being as open-minded as him. I personally got offended at the idea that wondering if that means he expects the same is "man hating". No, it's the most obvious answer to why someone (male or female) would bring this up as part of a relationship discussion.
i dunno, i dont see him scolding anyone here.
just firm “no” responses & pointing out that everyone immediately jumps on the man for perceived shadiness.
i dont consider that “man hating” but to me, it shows just how romance can really traumatize people.
Why? I don't like sharing my body with the masses. I don't find that to be a radical notion.
why what? i dont understand
is it the romance as trauma thing that you are asking why about?
not sharing your body w/ the masses isnt a radical notion. i think the responses in this thread establishes that.
Sorry for not being clear. I wonder why you view the reactions as trauma instead of logical responses from people who prefer to keep sex within the bounds of the relationship? I would find it very odd to be told I could do something I'd never expressed interest in for no reason at all.
That's assuming we know your sexual preferences.
Why do you judge my response without knowing? Why are your preferences better than mine?
Literally the first words you posted in this thread were judgmental of the man in the scenario.
These were my words...
"I'd assume he wanted to screw around too, which would be a deal-breaker, but I'd get that clarified. It wouldn't make much sense for a guy to say that to me, though, because if he knew me, he'd know I'd have no interest in that."
You do see what you prefaced that with, right?
Yes, I assumed the most obvious thing. That's not hatred. That's logic.
Most obvious to whom? Women?
No, to human beings.
I'm a human being and it wasn't obvious to me.. hence why I asked the question.
I notice the men in the other thread are also questioning it.
Rabbit and bumba? lol The only two.. and known trolls.
They question it, sure..
But can you imagine the outrage if the response was..
"I'd think she is a slut. She just wants to sleep with other men too."
No one here called the man a slut, did they?
And Skeleton DID.
We all know that's what you were insinuating. Am I right, or amirite?
I really wasn't. The most obvious reason behind the scenario you suggested, from my point of view, is that the man wants an open relationship, and this is his way of introducing it. I don't judge people in open relationships to be sluts, but I do not want to be in one myself.click to expand
I need to work on my mind reading skills apparently.
Posted by La_MariposaPosted by _DazedPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by _DazedPosted by LadyNeptune
lol @sleeping with other men/women as long as you are safe
There is no such thing as safe. Each time you fuck someone you roll the dice, condoms or not. Herps doesn't just hang out on the tip of the dick you know. Bump and grind with the wrong pelvic region and you'll have some buddies for life.
You do know that some people like to get tested, and have their partners tested before having sex, right?
You do know that those tests don't show everything up to date. You need to be retested 6 months later in order for it to be 100% clear.
Also its entirely possible to test false positive/false negative on std screening. They are not accurate 100% of the time.
Cool. No such thing as safe sex. Got it.
Thank you right fighter.
Although I believe safe sex is possible, ladyneptune has a point.
Herpes really can’t tested for unless the person is experiencing an outbreak but, that’s the issue. What if they don’t? The virus is permanent and dormant. Unfortunately it can still be spread between partners.
The only two options to be fully safe is abstinence or one loyal committed partner.click to expand
I just want LN to admit that she's having unsafe sex.
Posted by _DazedPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by _DazedPosted by LadyNeptune
lol @sleeping with other men/women as long as you are safe
There is no such thing as safe. Each time you fuck someone you roll the dice, condoms or not. Herps doesn't just hang out on the tip of the dick you know. Bump and grind with the wrong pelvic region and you'll have some buddies for life.
You do know that some people like to get tested, and have their partners tested before having sex, right?
You do know that those tests don't show everything up to date. You need to be retested 6 months later in order for it to be 100% clear.
Also its entirely possible to test false positive/false negative on std screening. They are not accurate 100% of the time.
Cool. No such thing as safe sex. Got it.
Thank you right fighter.click to expand
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