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would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....

these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.



do you find it scary??
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No.

I like to get to know them at least to some decent level, takes time.
how much time would you consider?

would you have to be LDR with them for years?

or do you need someone to be there (ie, someone who is in the neighborhood)




Prefer someone close to home yes, but i will go out of my way if it's that significant, the further you are, the longer it takes, the longer you take to open up truly, the longer it takes me to make a decision.

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there is a safetyness and comfort of knowing someone who is close to home.

but I wonder, since there are men AND women who also wouldn't mind marrying someone foreign.

Especially I read here online on this forum too, that they feel they are gonna marry someone foreign or someone with a different cultural background.

marrying someone with different cultural background is cool even if they are livng close by, in the neighborhood....

but living somewhere overseas, in a completely different life style , and you don't know if the man is a psychopath or a wife beater (this seems for fiting for women cause women are usually doing the mail order brides thing)

and yes I've heard of the stories of men being trapped in a loveless marriage,

where the woman is also using the man...

but I think that's few and far between..

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There's a lot of them in China.

It's not always because of financial security, it's also because the population of men's too scarce compared to the women and so it's hard to find a partner.

And I think it's the same way in countries like Russia too.


I don't hear much of China Mail order brides.

I do hear of Russian and East Europe, and even from other Asian, African countries, but not China so much. Maybe because of the country's tight security. (ie, they also monitor's people's computer searches ect?)
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There is a mail order groom service where woman want Irish men. Why them specifically? I don't know, but it's alive and kicking.



As for mail order brides, I'd be more worried that 6 months down the line you get a knock at the door and her handlers are there to take you for everything you've got. Sex trafficking isn't pretty. That's the part I don't like. It'd be safer and genuine to look for an arranged marriage.
seriously? '

wanting Irish men?

I wonder why too....

why Irish men... O_O

is there a public link to this?
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It's not love, it's an arrangement, for security, which is how many marriages work anyway, and have traditionally worked

It can be satisfactory as a life choice, but it is not love.
when I watch the videos, it doesn't seem SAFE to me...

and those poor girls, I wonder if they're gonna be okay..but it's a RISK they have to take.

those men, they could backhand her if she doesn't clean up the kitchen right.

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When I worked at the mines a lot of the guys had an Asian wives. I assume a lot of them were mail order brides. I'd walk into a room and there'd be a wedding or family photo. It became very normal to me. The conventional way doesn't work for all guys. I would see these guys at the bar and they were nice enough but they just didn't know how to be social around women. They were blokey but not in an attractive way. Some just can't deal with 'western' (cringey word but appropriate in this context) women and their independence.

I would find it scary but then again I'm not in the situation of these women.
if you live in Austrailia there are a lot of Asian women though....it could be that the Asian women are LOCAL. you never know...

but then again, once you meet the Asian woman and she is talking and you notice she is foreign, then you get a bit hmmm did he marry her from out of the country? it would be convenient because he works (the men you are talking about) in the mine and doesn't need no flak from some local women who demands his time and not for him to go to the bar all the time. Foreign women would be afraid to even start nagging or else she would sent packing home broke and alone and frightened. Maybe.
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It's not love, it's an arrangement, for security, which is how many marriages work anyway, and have traditionally worked

It can be satisfactory as a life choice, but it is not love.
when I watch the videos, it doesn't seem SAFE to me...

and those poor girls, I wonder if they're gonna be okay..but it's a RISK they have to take.

those men, they could backhand her if she doesn't clean up the kitchen right.


It definitely is NOT safe.

It is a huge risk and there are some men who actually brutally murder their brides.

But.... 80% of these marriages do last compared to other marriages.
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and these women have no families and if they do, they are dirt poor can't do anything...and the parents who are dirt poor would say, "he is your husband now....do what he says...we are poor we cannot help you anymore. listen to him!!"
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There is a mail order groom service where woman want Irish men. Why them specifically? I don't know, but it's alive and kicking.



As for mail order brides, I'd be more worried that 6 months down the line you get a knock at the door and her handlers are there to take you for everything you've got. Sex trafficking isn't pretty. That's the part I don't like. It'd be safer and genuine to look for an arranged marriage.
seriously? '

wanting Irish men?

I wonder why too....

why Irish men... O_O

is there a public link to this?
There are article about Rosebrides.com where it started. Originally they wanted to make Irish men pay to move abroad and meet Russian women, then it turned out women quite fancied themselves a bit of Irish.

http://www.irishcentral.com/culture/craic/find-your-very-own-liam-neeson-among-irelands-mail-order-husbands



I don't think Rosebrides is the real deal anymore but when I was marketing an online dating site, promoting Irish Men ads to women was a well known niche for some.

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hm I wonder if it's because Irish men need to get out of that island...

and they are just hanging around the pub all the time. drinking and drinking. So maybe men from Iceland would be also good for mail order grooms. to be honest, I have no idea. I think Starlover is from Ireland and she would be good in telling us about Irish men.

find your own liam neeson— lol

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There's a lot of them in China.

It's not always because of financial security, it's also because the population of men's too scarce compared to the women and so it's hard to find a partner.

And I think it's the same way in countries like Russia too.


I don't hear much of China Mail order brides.

I do hear of Russian and East Europe, and even from other Asian, African countries, but not China so much. Maybe because of the country's tight security. (ie, they also monitor's people's computer searches ect?)
Yes that is true.

The government is very controlling.
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that's why you don't hear much Chinese Mail order brides.

and I saw on youtube that Chinese men get ANGRY at Chinese women going for other than their own kind.

I can see why.
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I mean the ratio of Chinese men in china is HUGE compared to Chinese women so to see their own Chinese Local women go for other than their own pisses them off. they are already pissed off that they can't find more women and they see these Chinese ladies go off with a foreign man really pisses them off.... no wonder Don John was also pissed off when he makes those topics on Asian women going for foreign men. Maybe he was ranting about those local women due to the ratio of men and women in his country China home?
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I do know some western women who have gone abroad and come back with a younger lover in need of a passport and then have facebooked how in love they are

To each their own...


lol well....

even Madonna gets young men, (30 years younger) than her.

in reverse, she wants to get a passport to other countries.

I feel that even women from the U.S. or other 1st world countries are enamoured of other countries.

I don't usually hear of women from 1st world countries want a passport to East Europe. Or 3rd world type of countries.



I mean, both Gwen Paltrow and Madonna married UK men, and I don't know if they got a British Passport but the allure is tempting too. Even for wealthy, famous women.

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There's a lot of them in China.

It's not always because of financial security, it's also because the population of men's too scarce compared to the women and so it's hard to find a partner.

And I think it's the same way in countries like Russia too.


I don't hear much of China Mail order brides.

I do hear of Russian and East Europe, and even from other Asian, African countries, but not China so much. Maybe because of the country's tight security. (ie, they also monitor's people's computer searches ect?)
Yes that is true.

The government is very controlling.


that's why you don't hear much Chinese Mail order brides.

and I saw on youtube that Chinese men get ANGRY at Chinese women going for other than their own kind.

I can see why.


Yeah most Chinese men do get angry when Chinese women go for men of other... backgrounds.

Most think of it as shameful and disgusting.

But honestly, when there's 6 men for 10 women... how is that going to work?

Well, some in the north... men take 5 wives.

It's ridiculous to me.
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more like in China. the ratio is 10 men for 3 women.

and yes ...I see a lot more in Middle East cultures, like the Sultan taking 30 to 50 wives. They are not even wives...but possessions.

So I wonder if greediness there, taking all those women and taking care of them, would be more pleasing than the mail order bride where even the poor mail order bride gets a gross man who will backhand her and not even let her leave the house.
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When I worked at the mines a lot of the guys had an Asian wives. I assume a lot of them were mail order brides. I'd walk into a room and there'd be a wedding or family photo. It became very normal to me. The conventional way doesn't work for all guys. I would see these guys at the bar and they were nice enough but they just didn't know how to be social around women. They were blokey but not in an attractive way. Some just can't deal with 'western' (cringey word but appropriate in this context) women and their independence.

I would find it scary but then again I'm not in the situation of these women.
if you live in Austrailia there are a lot of Asian women though....it could be that the Asian women are LOCAL. you never know...

but then again, once you meet the Asian woman and she is talking and you notice she is foreign, then you get a bit hmmm did he marry her from out of the country? it would be convenient because he works (the men you are talking about) in the mine and doesn't need no flak from some local women who demands his time and not for him to go to the bar all the time. Foreign women would be afraid to even start nagging or else she would sent packing home broke and alone and frightened. Maybe.

Yeah I know some of them were local but I seriously doubt all of them are. The Asian Australians either marry other Asians or the socially adept Australians. If you knew these guys you'd understand why. There's always expectations to the rule though.

I understand what you mean though about some of the local women. The donga walls are thin and you can hear phone conversations. It was like a game of 20 questions for some of these poor bastards. Socializing is really important when you work away. Mental health is starting to become an issue for fifo workers. There were 4 suicides in the five years I worked away and they're just the ones I knew of. These women need a good slapping if they try stop their partners from going to the bar after work. I know this is derailing from the subject but it's something I feel strongly about.
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Austrailian men (in general I mean) act like babies I take it? immature and lacking social skills? gross.

what happened to them?

we used to watch MasterChef Austrailia and the men there seem so cool, so kind and so adept at social skills. maybe it's just the ones we outsiders don't see.

and why would these women need a slapping if they prevent their men from going to the bars?

why is the stress level so high for these men? is it because of working in the mines??
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I do know some western women who have gone abroad and come back with a younger lover in need of a passport and then have facebooked how in love they are

To each their own...


lol well....

even Madonna gets young men, (30 years younger) than her.

in reverse, she wants to get a passport to other countries.

I feel that even women from the U.S. or other 1st world countries are enamoured of other countries.

I don't usually hear of women from 1st world countries want a passport to East Europe. Or 3rd world type of countries.



I mean, both Gwen Paltrow and Madonna married UK men, and I don't know if they got a British Passport but the allure is tempting too. Even for wealthy, famous women.


Maybe some people just think it's really romantic or something?

Like.. they could live in this new and foreign place and experience new things and meet new people..

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yes especially when you're wealthy ....you have EVERYTHING.

so, the allure of another 1st world country is tempting and tantalizing.

you don't often hear of 1st world country women and men wanting to get a Vietnam passport or African (name any country other than South Africa -- which is home to rich white folks) passports or China or some poor Asian country passport, even India.... for what— there is nothing to gain from that, other than just love.

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When I worked at the mines a lot of the guys had an Asian wives. I assume a lot of them were mail order brides. I'd walk into a room and there'd be a wedding or family photo. It became very normal to me. The conventional way doesn't work for all guys. I would see these guys at the bar and they were nice enough but they just didn't know how to be social around women. They were blokey but not in an attractive way. Some just can't deal with 'western' (cringey word but appropriate in this context) women and their independence.

I would find it scary but then again I'm not in the situation of these women.
Hmm....this is why I sometimes use the term "western" because sometimes, there is just no other way to describe something other than by using that word.

There are definitely men who can be very intimidated by "western" women, especially the men who don't have much social skills.
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a barbaric man is not very pleasing.



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but a kind man who is a good man is pleasing.



when I say barbaric, I mean someone who is infantile I guess.

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I haven't watched the video entirely. And this is the very first time I heard about this topic.

I have absolutely no problem with moving into the man's house. Settle into his country. And I haven't thought much about any potential problems.

I was willing to do it with the online taurus guy for this similar "arrangement", but to be honest I was the one who pushed it to him. And it's not like he can offer me security. It's been specifically for love. Apparently his vision isn't the same with mine. He doesn't see it to be realistic. But I assume the reason isn't that at all. It broke my heart.

It sucks but whatever. I'm moving on with my life.

But to me, it's not scary at all. Because you must have spent time skyping or talking online, do things together, like watch movies together, listen to music together, even "take a lazy stroll together" (by skyping while you're walking around the neighborhood) sending videos while you're out, etc. So you must have got to know the person to some extent.

To some people, it may look desperate or even pathetic. But what I see it's having no limit in getting the love of your life.

It warms my heart when I watched Dave's story (but then again, I haven't watched the video entirely).

Question is, why not?




i'm surprised a Taurus man is willing to do this, without MEETING you and going through the physical motions first.

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@Aneema, what signs/placements are you? because you and the Taurus didn't meet criteria. you are wiling to go the mile to do all the skyping and online activiites but no physical touch or meeting?

so he didn't go through with it, he doesn't find it trusting. I honestly would NOT trust it either. I don't care how good he sounds either ect. If we don't interact in PERSON, real to real...it's not happening.

so I understand even as a Taurus dominant.

earthy domiannts do NOT trust internet/online stuff.

it's great for facebook, twitter interactions, and fun actitives like online messgeboards for interesting convos, and interaction...but NOT for personal relationshps.



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mark zuckerberg is a Taurus sun who is scorpio moon/dominant.

he created the facebook thingy. lol

it's for fun interaction and conversations and getting to know the world.

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check out all the U.S. citizens here or from UK they want to go to OTHER first world countries to marry a foreigner ....do you hear them saying, "I want to marry someone from Morrocco, or Egypt or Nigeria, or China"
definitely not

unless it's for love
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Nope.



I keep reading they want to meet a foreign man from a wealthier country. lol

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Regarding an earlier post in this thread, every american woman I know would love to date/marry an irish man with an irish accent, and the culture blends well with american culture, not uncouth at all with a hint of high brow and if they are tall and well educated it is sort of the jackpot for women. The irish are pretty popular really and as a nation their economy has been doing well for the past few decades. Membership in the EU has really benefitted them as a whole.

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Is this the 21st century slavery?

I could only hope that governments are doing more to stop this shameful way of raping and abusing poor women....

Or at least that will backfire terribly, and get a bad reputation among men.....like having to pay "the bride" a life time maintenance after divorce!

Lisa, if you were looking for a job in 2017....work for an agency that helps women in this situation.
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did any of you all watch the video I posted—

the young Russian woman Luda I think that's her name. She comes from a good family, I watched the video...they are NOT rich at all but they love their daughter very much and is very concern about her choice of man.

The man is older and he's from the UK. I'm not sure of his work but the narrator says he's PEST controller worker by day and works as a bouncer at night in a night club. So he has two jobs, workaholic. lol

and Luda (this is featured @ 6:20, 6:25) is a Restaurant manager, working full time and she is so lonely and depressed without a man. So she said she wants to try mail order bride.

she did it and met this bouncer and pest controller who she booked a room together for, and paid for her own flight to meet him there! she has her own money to buy everything, and she has a good family.

they all wanted to meet this man and even hired an interpretator. They want to know all the concerns about him.

the narrator said, this is ONE of the few SUCCESS stories of mail order bride.
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Is this the 21st century slavery?

I could only hope that governments are doing more to stop this shameful way of raping and abusing poor women....

Or at least that will backfire terribly, and get a bad reputation among men.....like having to pay "the bride" a life time maintenance after divorce!

Lisa, if you were looking for a job in 2017....work for an agency that helps women in this situation.
No no no...21st century slavery is human trafficking, it is much different and much worse, this would be a walk in the park and real actual victims would trade places any day.
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I haven't watched the video entirely. And this is the very first time I heard about this topic.

I have absolutely no problem with moving into the man's house. Settle into his country. And I haven't thought much about any potential problems.

I was willing to do it with the online taurus guy for this similar "arrangement", but to be honest I was the one who pushed it to him. And it's not like he can offer me security. It's been specifically for love. Apparently his vision isn't the same with mine. He doesn't see it to be realistic. But I assume the reason isn't that at all. It broke my heart.

It sucks but whatever. I'm moving on with my life.

But to me, it's not scary at all. Because you must have spent time skyping or talking online, do things together, like watch movies together, listen to music together, even "take a lazy stroll together" (by skyping while you're walking around the neighborhood) sending videos while you're out, etc. So you must have got to know the person to some extent.

To some people, it may look desperate or even pathetic. But what I see it's having no limit in getting the love of your life.

It warms my heart when I watched Dave's story (but then again, I haven't watched the video entirely).

Question is, why not?




i'm surprised a Taurus man is willing to do this, without MEETING you and going through the physical motions first.




Because he has got cancer ascendant and pisces moon. Hehe
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lol

but why didn't he go through with it??

you must be very watery yourself.



I always hear that watery folks don't do online LDR though.....

I thought it was airy dominant. or fiery dominant??

maybe it's just INDIVIDUAL.....have no idea anymore.

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The mail order bride thing seems like it could work for those with pure intentions but to me it seems pretty unromantic. But many view marriage as just another business deal, all the better if you're in love, so I guess it depends on your viewpoint, culture and values.


that's what I think too...

it's ONLY for those with PURE intentions.

that is the one that I described above, the very successful pairing with Luda, Russian manager of Restaurant and the two job career man from UK working as pest controller and bouncer at a night club.

they went through the pure intentions, he went to meet the parents and they even cooked Russian food for him too, tried to get to know him even when they suck at langauges. lol

they said this couple was the most successful and happy.
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would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....

these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.



do you find it scary??
It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.

Than make them K1 visa for the marriage,

pay for the ticket, come here, playing nice and domestic. Make poor shmucks pay for everything and finally marrying him!

Then she turns into her true self, stops having sex with poor stupid shmucks, sending her boyfriend in Russia money to come over and puts him into the same house as her brother who are so sad he couldn't attend the wedding.

And later on she divorces shmuck, marrying her 'brother', who later divorces her to marry sugar momma because HE CAN!

Lol not so scary is it?

It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!
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would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....

these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.



do you find it scary??
It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.

Than make them K1 visa for the marriage,

pay for the ticket, come here, playing nice and domestic. Make poor shmucks pay for everything and finally marrying him!

Then she turns into her true self, stops having sex with poor stupid shmucks, sending her boyfriend in Russia money to come over and puts him into the same house as her brother who are so sad he couldn't attend the wedding.

And later on she divorces shmuck, marrying her 'brother', who later divorces her to marry sugar momma because HE CAN!

Lol not so scary is it?

It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!


Did you see the women in the video? They are all average at best.

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I didn't watch the video.

What do men look like?

Any average looking woman can find a desperate man. And they are finding it!

My husband has page on Russian FB.

When he had picture with our daughter at her senior prom - he was getting invites from 18 y/old daily!!!

And he is 60 and bald! And on that picture he is also fat!!! Like fat fat!!!

I am sure if it didn't say he is from USA he would get none! lol

So he changed that to a family picture and likes from young sluts stopped altogether!

Lol

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years ago i heard a friend of a friend married a mail order bride who was decent looking and maybe 1 ft taller than him. i heard that she would make him do most chores. he was a wimpy dorky engineer w/ no charm and no social skills to get women

last i heard he complained to my friend that his health has declined since the marriage. she probably abused him. poor guy. i hope he is still alive
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would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....

these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.



do you find it scary??
It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.

Than make them K1 visa for the marriage,

pay for the ticket, come here, playing nice and domestic. Make poor shmucks pay for everything and finally marrying him!

Then she turns into her true self, stops having sex with poor stupid shmucks, sending her boyfriend in Russia money to come over and puts him into the same house as her brother who are so sad he couldn't attend the wedding.

And later on she divorces shmuck, marrying her 'brother', who later divorces her to marry sugar momma because HE CAN!

Lol not so scary is it?

It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!


Did you see the women in the video? They are all average at best.



I didn't watch the video.

What do men look like?

Any average looking woman can find a desperate man. And they are finding it!

My husband has page on Russian FB.

When he had picture with our daughter at her senior prom - he was getting invites from 18 y/old daily!!!

And he is 60 and bald! And on that picture he is also fat!!! Like fat fat!!!

I am sure if it didn't say he is from USA he would get none! lol

So he changed that to a family picture and likes from young sluts stopped altogether!

Lol

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why didn't you watch the video? it's only 30-40 mins of your time, which you also spend a lot of time here too. 😕
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It seems if a Western man who doesn't come from a culture where arranged marriages happen "buys" a woman from a culture where arranged marriages do happen, the expectations may be completely different. The woman may think of it as usual, just more long-distance, while he may think of her as less fully independent than Western women. Or maybe he will want her to be like a Western woman, but she won't be due to cultural upbringing. Maybe she thinks she'll get to break out of her traditional upbringing by marrying a Western man, but he might want what he thinks is a "traditional" wife.

Just seems fraught with issues.
You're spot on.

In such arrangements, the expectations from both sides are completely different. It can work best if the woman's idea of a marriage is to stay at home and remain submissive to her partner. The men seeking mail-order brides are looking exactly for that.

Most of them would have no chance with an educated girl who was opinionated. They mostly end up getting used by such girls, as we can see in the video.

I cringed a little while watching this.

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they were saying that the women in Russia is more than the men, because a lot of their men died in Afghan wars ect. So the women have a lot of competiton. Therefore they NEED men. There were a busload of white collar middle aged men, who were looking to hook up for marriage, and they spent maybe around 4 grand for this trip and everything to find a woman. Not including the money they will spend when they take out the woman.

I thought wow. these men really want a woman badly. One of the guys featured said one Russian girl gave him some handjobs and blowjobs or something, and he said cool...but he is NOT looking for a WHORE... he is looking for a wife.

I thought too..what the hell are these women doing?? are they just so horny they will give men easy lays— 😕 soooo NASTY!!!
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would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....

these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.



do you find it scary??
It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.

Than make them K1 visa for the marriage,

pay for the ticket, come here, playing nice and domestic. Make poor shmucks pay for everything and finally marrying him!

Then she turns into her true self, stops having sex with poor stupid shmucks, sending her boyfriend in Russia money to come over and puts him into the same house as her brother who are so sad he couldn't attend the wedding.

And later on she divorces shmuck, marrying her 'brother', who later divorces her to marry sugar momma because HE CAN!

Lol not so scary is it?

It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!


Did you see the women in the video? They are all average at best.

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it's not a Victoria secrets Russian site.
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Posted by Gemitati
Posted by lisabethur8
would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....

these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.



do you find it scary??
It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.

Than make them K1 visa for the marriage,

pay for the ticket, come here, playing nice and domestic. Make poor shmucks pay for everything and finally marrying him!

Then she turns into her true self, stops having sex with poor stupid shmucks, sending her boyfriend in Russia money to come over and puts him into the same house as her brother who are so sad he couldn't attend the wedding.

And later on she divorces shmuck, marrying her 'brother', who later divorces her to marry sugar momma because HE CAN!

Lol not so scary is it?

It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!


Did you see the women in the video? They are all average at best.



I didn't watch the video.

What do men look like?

Any average looking woman can find a desperate man. And they are finding it!

My husband has page on Russian FB.

When he had picture with our daughter at her senior prom - he was getting invites from 18 y/old daily!!!

And he is 60 and bald! And on that picture he is also fat!!! Like fat fat!!!

I am sure if it didn't say he is from USA he would get none! lol

So he changed that to a family picture and likes from young sluts stopped altogether!

Lol



why didn't you watch the video? it's only 30-40 mins of your time, which you also spend a lot of time here too. 😕

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I did. Eventually. And so nothing scary except that old dudes appartment!
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years ago i heard a friend of a friend married a mail order bride who was decent looking and maybe 1 ft taller than him. i heard that she would make him do most chores. he was a wimpy dorky engineer w/ no charm and no social skills to get women

last i heard he complained to my friend that his health has declined since the marriage. she probably abused him. poor guy. i hope he is still alive
sounds like that show Beauty and the Geek.





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hate math and the women there HATE math too. jeez.

Posted by Gemitati
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Gemitati
Posted by RicherCap
Posted by Gemitati
Posted by lisabethur8
would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....

these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.



do you find it scary??
It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.

Than make them K1 visa for the marriage,

pay for the ticket, come here, playing nice and domestic. Make poor shmucks pay for everything and finally marrying him!

Then she turns into her true self, stops having sex with poor stupid shmucks, sending her boyfriend in Russia money to come over and puts him into the same house as her brother who are so sad he couldn't attend the wedding.

And later on she divorces shmuck, marrying her 'brother', who later divorces her to marry sugar momma because HE CAN!

Lol not so scary is it?

It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!


Did you see the women in the video? They are all average at best.



I didn't watch the video.

What do men look like?

Any average looking woman can find a desperate man. And they are finding it!

My husband has page on Russian FB.

When he had picture with our daughter at her senior prom - he was getting invites from 18 y/old daily!!!

And he is 60 and bald! And on that picture he is also fat!!! Like fat fat!!!

I am sure if it didn't say he is from USA he would get none! lol

So he changed that to a family picture and likes from young sluts stopped altogether!

Lol



why didn't you watch the video? it's only 30-40 mins of your time, which you also spend a lot of time here too. 😕


I did. Eventually. And so nothing scary except that old dudes appartment!
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oh that's good!! about watching it.

yea that old guy's apartment is gross.

the young woman is the same age as the daughter of the old man and the daughter wasn't sure about the woman coming back. The young woman was being supported for 3 years from this old guy too, but she didn't /never commited or moved there. But they obviously slept there together.

the young woman said that the old guy drank too much and was too worried. I don't know, I didn't think it would last either.
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It seems if a Western man who doesn't come from a culture where arranged marriages happen "buys" a woman from a culture where arranged marriages do happen, the expectations may be completely different. The woman may think of it as usual, just more long-distance, while he may think of her as less fully independent than Western women. Or maybe he will want her to be like a Western woman, but she won't be due to cultural upbringing. Maybe she thinks she'll get to break out of her traditional upbringing by marrying a Western man, but he might want what he thinks is a "traditional" wife.

Just seems fraught with issues.
You're spot on.

In such arrangements, the expectations from both sides are completely different. It can work best if the woman's idea of a marriage is to stay at home and remain submissive to her partner. The men seeking mail-order brides are looking exactly for that.

Most of them would have no chance with an educated girl who was opinionated. They mostly end up getting used by such girls, as we can see in the video.

I cringed a little while watching this.




they were saying that the women in Russia is more than the men, because a lot of their men died in Afghan wars ect. So the women have a lot of competiton. Therefore they NEED men. There were a busload of white collar middle aged men, who were looking to hook up for marriage, and they spent maybe around 4 grand for this trip and everything to find a woman. Not including the money they will spend when they take out the woman.

I thought wow. these men really want a woman badly. One of the guys featured said one Russian girl gave him some handjobs and blowjobs or something, and he said cool...but he is NOT looking for a WHORE... he is looking for a wife.

I thought too..what the hell are these women doing?? are they just so horny they will give men easy lays— 😕 soooo NASTY!!!


Ugh! I know! It was cringe-worthy. I cannot tell for sure if those women were horny. Lost may be a better word.

They are probably trying their best to beat competition to find security, which the society they live in, is unable or unwilling to provide.

The men are equally lost, IMO. They are stuck in a primitive mindset and believe that by virtue of their being men alone, they can possess any woman and that all women ought to be grateful to have their attention. Being in their 50s & 60s, they are romancing girls less than half their age. The girls may be foreign and living in desperate circumstances, but they are no fools. They exercise the same judgment while choosing mates as any local woman might.

The man in the video said he was looking for a wife, but kept making the mistake of selecting the wrong women. So, the problem was not the fact that there are no eligible women in Texas, but that he's not good at relating with women.

It would be a better bargain if these men were to overcome their social awkwardness and date the local women, in which case there is a less chance of running into gold-diggers.

The worst part was the mentoring. The tour guide was referring to the women as fish that were to be caught? Just horrible!

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I think so too. I don't understand why he spent 4k and more to just find a woman. It didn't seem to give him any luck. Maybe he is the type of man who is tired of Amercian/U.S. women, and he wants someone who is foreign and won't talk back much. lol

well they won't if they can't understand eachother.
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years ago i heard a friend of a friend married a mail order bride who was decent looking and maybe 1 ft taller than him. i heard that she would make him do most chores. he was a wimpy dorky engineer w/ no charm and no social skills to get women

last i heard he complained to my friend that his health has declined since the marriage. she probably abused him. poor guy. i hope he is still alive
sounds like that show Beauty and the Geek.





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lol. who came up with that idea lol

i feel like asking my friend what happened to this guy. the thing is his wife could have divorced him after she got her green card and his 1/2 of $ (I sure hope he was not too stupid to not have a prenup) and shagged up with some gigolo already