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Posted by TheCanBullhow much time would you consider?
No.
I like to get to know them at least to some decent level, takes time.
Posted by TheCanBullPosted by lisabethur8Prefer someone close to home yes, but i will go out of my way if it's that significant, the further you are, the longer it takes, the longer you take to open up truly, the longer it takes me to make a decision.Posted by TheCanBullhow much time would you consider?
No.
I like to get to know them at least to some decent level, takes time.
would you have to be LDR with them for years?
or do you need someone to be there (ie, someone who is in the neighborhood)
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Posted by yupvirgooI don't hear much of China Mail order brides.
There's a lot of them in China.
It's not always because of financial security, it's also because the population of men's too scarce compared to the women and so it's hard to find a partner.
And I think it's the same way in countries like Russia too.
Posted by tizianiseriously? '
There is a mail order groom service where woman want Irish men. Why them specifically? I don't know, but it's alive and kicking.
As for mail order brides, I'd be more worried that 6 months down the line you get a knock at the door and her handlers are there to take you for everything you've got. Sex trafficking isn't pretty. That's the part I don't like. It'd be safer and genuine to look for an arranged marriage.
Posted by RicherCapwhen I watch the videos, it doesn't seem SAFE to me...
It's not love, it's an arrangement, for security, which is how many marriages work anyway, and have traditionally worked
It can be satisfactory as a life choice, but it is not love.
Posted by Aliensusedourbogrollif you live in Austrailia there are a lot of Asian women though....it could be that the Asian women are LOCAL. you never know...
When I worked at the mines a lot of the guys had an Asian wives. I assume a lot of them were mail order brides. I'd walk into a room and there'd be a wedding or family photo. It became very normal to me. The conventional way doesn't work for all guys. I would see these guys at the bar and they were nice enough but they just didn't know how to be social around women. They were blokey but not in an attractive way. Some just can't deal with 'western' (cringey word but appropriate in this context) women and their independence.
I would find it scary but then again I'm not in the situation of these women.
Posted by yupvirgooand these women have no families and if they do, they are dirt poor can't do anything...and the parents who are dirt poor would say, "he is your husband now....do what he says...we are poor we cannot help you anymore. listen to him!!"Posted by lisabethur8It definitely is NOT safe.Posted by RicherCapwhen I watch the videos, it doesn't seem SAFE to me...
It's not love, it's an arrangement, for security, which is how many marriages work anyway, and have traditionally worked
It can be satisfactory as a life choice, but it is not love.
and those poor girls, I wonder if they're gonna be okay..but it's a RISK they have to take.
those men, they could backhand her if she doesn't clean up the kitchen right.
It is a huge risk and there are some men who actually brutally murder their brides.
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Posted by tizianihm I wonder if it's because Irish men need to get out of that island...Posted by lisabethur8There are article about Rosebrides.com where it started. Originally they wanted to make Irish men pay to move abroad and meet Russian women, then it turned out women quite fancied themselves a bit of Irish.Posted by tizianiseriously? '
There is a mail order groom service where woman want Irish men. Why them specifically? I don't know, but it's alive and kicking.
As for mail order brides, I'd be more worried that 6 months down the line you get a knock at the door and her handlers are there to take you for everything you've got. Sex trafficking isn't pretty. That's the part I don't like. It'd be safer and genuine to look for an arranged marriage.
wanting Irish men?
I wonder why too....
why Irish men... O_O
is there a public link to this?
http://www.irishcentral.com/culture/craic/find-your-very-own-liam-neeson-among-irelands-mail-order-husbands
I don't think Rosebrides is the real deal anymore but when I was marketing an online dating site, promoting Irish Men ads to women was a well known niche for some.
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Posted by yupvirgooPosted by lisabethur8Yes that is true.Posted by yupvirgooI don't hear much of China Mail order brides.
There's a lot of them in China.
It's not always because of financial security, it's also because the population of men's too scarce compared to the women and so it's hard to find a partner.
And I think it's the same way in countries like Russia too.
I do hear of Russian and East Europe, and even from other Asian, African countries, but not China so much. Maybe because of the country's tight security. (ie, they also monitor's people's computer searches ect?)
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Posted by tizianiirish men looking for mail order or marrying outside?
Both Starlover and Seraphlights are in Ireland, yes.
Posted by RicherCap
I do know some western women who have gone abroad and come back with a younger lover in need of a passport and then have facebooked how in love they are
To each their own...
Posted by yupvirgooPosted by lisabethur8Yeah most Chinese men do get angry when Chinese women go for men of other... backgrounds.Posted by yupvirgooPosted by lisabethur8Yes that is true.Posted by yupvirgooI don't hear much of China Mail order brides.
There's a lot of them in China.
It's not always because of financial security, it's also because the population of men's too scarce compared to the women and so it's hard to find a partner.
And I think it's the same way in countries like Russia too.
I do hear of Russian and East Europe, and even from other Asian, African countries, but not China so much. Maybe because of the country's tight security. (ie, they also monitor's people's computer searches ect?)
The government is very controlling.
that's why you don't hear much Chinese Mail order brides.
and I saw on youtube that Chinese men get ANGRY at Chinese women going for other than their own kind.
I can see why.
Most think of it as shameful and disgusting.
But honestly, when there's 6 men for 10 women... how is that going to work?
Well, some in the north... men take 5 wives.
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Posted by AliensusedourbogrollAustrailian men (in general I mean) act like babies I take it? immature and lacking social skills? gross.Posted by lisabethur8Posted by Aliensusedourbogrollif you live in Austrailia there are a lot of Asian women though....it could be that the Asian women are LOCAL. you never know...
When I worked at the mines a lot of the guys had an Asian wives. I assume a lot of them were mail order brides. I'd walk into a room and there'd be a wedding or family photo. It became very normal to me. The conventional way doesn't work for all guys. I would see these guys at the bar and they were nice enough but they just didn't know how to be social around women. They were blokey but not in an attractive way. Some just can't deal with 'western' (cringey word but appropriate in this context) women and their independence.
I would find it scary but then again I'm not in the situation of these women.
but then again, once you meet the Asian woman and she is talking and you notice she is foreign, then you get a bit hmmm did he marry her from out of the country? it would be convenient because he works (the men you are talking about) in the mine and doesn't need no flak from some local women who demands his time and not for him to go to the bar all the time. Foreign women would be afraid to even start nagging or else she would sent packing home broke and alone and frightened. Maybe.
Yeah I know some of them were local but I seriously doubt all of them are. The Asian Australians either marry other Asians or the socially adept Australians. If you knew these guys you'd understand why. There's always expectations to the rule though.
I understand what you mean though about some of the local women. The donga walls are thin and you can hear phone conversations. It was like a game of 20 questions for some of these poor bastards. Socializing is really important when you work away. Mental health is starting to become an issue for fifo workers. There were 4 suicides in the five years I worked away and they're just the ones I knew of. These women need a good slapping if they try stop their partners from going to the bar after work. I know this is derailing from the subject but it's something I feel strongly about.click to expand
Posted by yupvirgooyes especially when you're wealthy ....you have EVERYTHING.Posted by lisabethur8Maybe some people just think it's really romantic or something?Posted by RicherCap
I do know some western women who have gone abroad and come back with a younger lover in need of a passport and then have facebooked how in love they are
To each their own...
lol well....
even Madonna gets young men, (30 years younger) than her.
in reverse, she wants to get a passport to other countries.
I feel that even women from the U.S. or other 1st world countries are enamoured of other countries.
I don't usually hear of women from 1st world countries want a passport to East Europe. Or 3rd world type of countries.
I mean, both Gwen Paltrow and Madonna married UK men, and I don't know if they got a British Passport but the allure is tempting too. Even for wealthy, famous women.
Like.. they could live in this new and foreign place and experience new things and meet new people..
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Posted by yupvirgooPosted by AliensusedourbogrollHmm....this is why I sometimes use the term "western" because sometimes, there is just no other way to describe something other than by using that word.
When I worked at the mines a lot of the guys had an Asian wives. I assume a lot of them were mail order brides. I'd walk into a room and there'd be a wedding or family photo. It became very normal to me. The conventional way doesn't work for all guys. I would see these guys at the bar and they were nice enough but they just didn't know how to be social around women. They were blokey but not in an attractive way. Some just can't deal with 'western' (cringey word but appropriate in this context) women and their independence.
I would find it scary but then again I'm not in the situation of these women.
There are definitely men who can be very intimidated by "western" women, especially the men who don't have much social skills.click to expand
Posted by AneemA
I haven't watched the video entirely. And this is the very first time I heard about this topic.
I have absolutely no problem with moving into the man's house. Settle into his country. And I haven't thought much about any potential problems.
I was willing to do it with the online taurus guy for this similar "arrangement", but to be honest I was the one who pushed it to him. And it's not like he can offer me security. It's been specifically for love. Apparently his vision isn't the same with mine. He doesn't see it to be realistic. But I assume the reason isn't that at all. It broke my heart.
It sucks but whatever. I'm moving on with my life.
But to me, it's not scary at all. Because you must have spent time skyping or talking online, do things together, like watch movies together, listen to music together, even "take a lazy stroll together" (by skyping while you're walking around the neighborhood) sending videos while you're out, etc. So you must have got to know the person to some extent.
To some people, it may look desperate or even pathetic. But what I see it's having no limit in getting the love of your life.
It warms my heart when I watched Dave's story (but then again, I haven't watched the video entirely).
Question is, why not?
Posted by yupvirgooNope.Posted by lisabethur8definitely not
check out all the U.S. citizens here or from UK they want to go to OTHER first world countries to marry a foreigner ....do you hear them saying, "I want to marry someone from Morrocco, or Egypt or Nigeria, or China"
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Posted by UndineNo no no...21st century slavery is human trafficking, it is much different and much worse, this would be a walk in the park and real actual victims would trade places any day.
Is this the 21st century slavery?
I could only hope that governments are doing more to stop this shameful way of raping and abusing poor women....
Or at least that will backfire terribly, and get a bad reputation among men.....like having to pay "the bride" a life time maintenance after divorce!
Lisa, if you were looking for a job in 2017....work for an agency that helps women in this situation.


Posted by AneemAlolPosted by lisabethur8Because he has got cancer ascendant and pisces moon. HehePosted by AneemA
I haven't watched the video entirely. And this is the very first time I heard about this topic.
I have absolutely no problem with moving into the man's house. Settle into his country. And I haven't thought much about any potential problems.
I was willing to do it with the online taurus guy for this similar "arrangement", but to be honest I was the one who pushed it to him. And it's not like he can offer me security. It's been specifically for love. Apparently his vision isn't the same with mine. He doesn't see it to be realistic. But I assume the reason isn't that at all. It broke my heart.
It sucks but whatever. I'm moving on with my life.
But to me, it's not scary at all. Because you must have spent time skyping or talking online, do things together, like watch movies together, listen to music together, even "take a lazy stroll together" (by skyping while you're walking around the neighborhood) sending videos while you're out, etc. So you must have got to know the person to some extent.
To some people, it may look desperate or even pathetic. But what I see it's having no limit in getting the love of your life.
It warms my heart when I watched Dave's story (but then again, I haven't watched the video entirely).
Question is, why not?
i'm surprised a Taurus man is willing to do this, without MEETING you and going through the physical motions first.
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Posted by rabidtalkerthat's what I think too...
The mail order bride thing seems like it could work for those with pure intentions but to me it seems pretty unromantic. But many view marriage as just another business deal, all the better if you're in love, so I guess it depends on your viewpoint, culture and values.

Posted by lisabethur8couldnt you have picked a shorter video— 😢
did any of you all watch the video I posted—
Posted by rabidtalkerlolPosted by lisabethur8couldnt you have picked a shorter video— 😢
did any of you all watch the video I posted—
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Posted by lisabethur8The story was shorter than I expected, haha. I hope they end up happy no matter how it turns outPosted by rabidtalkerlolPosted by lisabethur8couldnt you have picked a shorter video— 😢
did any of you all watch the video I posted—
just start at around 6:20 for the Luda, Russian girl love story. lolclick to expand

Posted by lisabethur8It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.
would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....
these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.
do you find it scary??

Posted by Gemitati
It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!


Posted by TheCanBullI guess not even Pamela Anderson looks like Pamela Anderson! 😛
So basically looking like an alien?

Posted by RicherCapPosted by GemitatiPosted by lisabethur8It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.
would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....
these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.
do you find it scary??
Than make them K1 visa for the marriage,
pay for the ticket, come here, playing nice and domestic. Make poor shmucks pay for everything and finally marrying him!
Then she turns into her true self, stops having sex with poor stupid shmucks, sending her boyfriend in Russia money to come over and puts him into the same house as her brother who are so sad he couldn't attend the wedding.
And later on she divorces shmuck, marrying her 'brother', who later divorces her to marry sugar momma because HE CAN!
Lol not so scary is it?
It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!
Did you see the women in the video? They are all average at best.
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Posted by GemitatiPosted by RicherCapPosted by GemitatiPosted by lisabethur8It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.
would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....
these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.
do you find it scary??
Than make them K1 visa for the marriage,
pay for the ticket, come here, playing nice and domestic. Make poor shmucks pay for everything and finally marrying him!
Then she turns into her true self, stops having sex with poor stupid shmucks, sending her boyfriend in Russia money to come over and puts him into the same house as her brother who are so sad he couldn't attend the wedding.
And later on she divorces shmuck, marrying her 'brother', who later divorces her to marry sugar momma because HE CAN!
Lol not so scary is it?
It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!
Did you see the women in the video? They are all average at best.
I didn't watch the video.
What do men look like?
Any average looking woman can find a desperate man. And they are finding it!
My husband has page on Russian FB.
When he had picture with our daughter at her senior prom - he was getting invites from 18 y/old daily!!!
And he is 60 and bald! And on that picture he is also fat!!! Like fat fat!!!
I am sure if it didn't say he is from USA he would get none! lol
So he changed that to a family picture and likes from young sluts stopped altogether!
Lol
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Posted by CAPRILICIOUSPosted by Gem_from_VenusYou're spot on.
It seems if a Western man who doesn't come from a culture where arranged marriages happen "buys" a woman from a culture where arranged marriages do happen, the expectations may be completely different. The woman may think of it as usual, just more long-distance, while he may think of her as less fully independent than Western women. Or maybe he will want her to be like a Western woman, but she won't be due to cultural upbringing. Maybe she thinks she'll get to break out of her traditional upbringing by marrying a Western man, but he might want what he thinks is a "traditional" wife.
Just seems fraught with issues.
In such arrangements, the expectations from both sides are completely different. It can work best if the woman's idea of a marriage is to stay at home and remain submissive to her partner. The men seeking mail-order brides are looking exactly for that.
Most of them would have no chance with an educated girl who was opinionated. They mostly end up getting used by such girls, as we can see in the video.
I cringed a little while watching this.
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Posted by RicherCapit's not a Victoria secrets Russian site.Posted by GemitatiPosted by lisabethur8It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.
would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....
these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.
do you find it scary??
Than make them K1 visa for the marriage,
pay for the ticket, come here, playing nice and domestic. Make poor shmucks pay for everything and finally marrying him!
Then she turns into her true self, stops having sex with poor stupid shmucks, sending her boyfriend in Russia money to come over and puts him into the same house as her brother who are so sad he couldn't attend the wedding.
And later on she divorces shmuck, marrying her 'brother', who later divorces her to marry sugar momma because HE CAN!
Lol not so scary is it?
It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!
Did you see the women in the video? They are all average at best.
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Posted by lisabethur8I did. Eventually. And so nothing scary except that old dudes appartment!Posted by GemitatiPosted by RicherCapPosted by GemitatiPosted by lisabethur8It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.
would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....
these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.
do you find it scary??
Than make them K1 visa for the marriage,
pay for the ticket, come here, playing nice and domestic. Make poor shmucks pay for everything and finally marrying him!
Then she turns into her true self, stops having sex with poor stupid shmucks, sending her boyfriend in Russia money to come over and puts him into the same house as her brother who are so sad he couldn't attend the wedding.
And later on she divorces shmuck, marrying her 'brother', who later divorces her to marry sugar momma because HE CAN!
Lol not so scary is it?
It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!
Did you see the women in the video? They are all average at best.
I didn't watch the video.
What do men look like?
Any average looking woman can find a desperate man. And they are finding it!
My husband has page on Russian FB.
When he had picture with our daughter at her senior prom - he was getting invites from 18 y/old daily!!!
And he is 60 and bald! And on that picture he is also fat!!! Like fat fat!!!
I am sure if it didn't say he is from USA he would get none! lol
So he changed that to a family picture and likes from young sluts stopped altogether!
Lol
why didn't you watch the video? it's only 30-40 mins of your time, which you also spend a lot of time here too. 😕
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Posted by tizianirabid said it first, so I agreed with him. lol but yes we all three agree.
Like lisabethur said, pure intentions.
Posted by iCloud9sounds like that show Beauty and the Geek.
years ago i heard a friend of a friend married a mail order bride who was decent looking and maybe 1 ft taller than him. i heard that she would make him do most chores. he was a wimpy dorky engineer w/ no charm and no social skills to get women
last i heard he complained to my friend that his health has declined since the marriage. she probably abused him. poor guy. i hope he is still alive
hate math and the women there HATE math too. jeez.Posted by GemitatiPosted by lisabethur8I did. Eventually. And so nothing scary except that old dudes appartment!Posted by GemitatiPosted by RicherCapPosted by GemitatiPosted by lisabethur8It IS scary when these bimbos are finding homely looking guys and starting to bombard them with nude photos.
would any of you consider it? I was watching this, and thought how scary it is for the woman to be in that position. To be paired up with some stranger, some guy in a foreign country, who you hardly know....
these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.
do you find it scary??
Than make them K1 visa for the marriage,
pay for the ticket, come here, playing nice and domestic. Make poor shmucks pay for everything and finally marrying him!
Then she turns into her true self, stops having sex with poor stupid shmucks, sending her boyfriend in Russia money to come over and puts him into the same house as her brother who are so sad he couldn't attend the wedding.
And later on she divorces shmuck, marrying her 'brother', who later divorces her to marry sugar momma because HE CAN!
Lol not so scary is it?
It's scary how stupid men are to think with their look they can have a woman who looks like Pamela Anderson!!!
Did you see the women in the video? They are all average at best.
I didn't watch the video.
What do men look like?
Any average looking woman can find a desperate man. And they are finding it!
My husband has page on Russian FB.
When he had picture with our daughter at her senior prom - he was getting invites from 18 y/old daily!!!
And he is 60 and bald! And on that picture he is also fat!!! Like fat fat!!!
I am sure if it didn't say he is from USA he would get none! lol
So he changed that to a family picture and likes from young sluts stopped altogether!
Lol
why didn't you watch the video? it's only 30-40 mins of your time, which you also spend a lot of time here too. 😕
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oh that's good!! about watching it.
yea that old guy's apartment is gross.
the young woman is the same age as the daughter of the old man and the daughter wasn't sure about the woman coming back. The young woman was being supported for 3 years from this old guy too, but she didn't /never commited or moved there. But they obviously slept there together.
the young woman said that the old guy drank too much and was too worried. I don't know, I didn't think it would last either.
Posted by CAPRILICIOUSI think so too. I don't understand why he spent 4k and more to just find a woman. It didn't seem to give him any luck. Maybe he is the type of man who is tired of Amercian/U.S. women, and he wants someone who is foreign and won't talk back much. lolPosted by lisabethur8Ugh! I know! It was cringe-worthy. I cannot tell for sure if those women were horny. Lost may be a better word.Posted by CAPRILICIOUSPosted by Gem_from_VenusYou're spot on.
It seems if a Western man who doesn't come from a culture where arranged marriages happen "buys" a woman from a culture where arranged marriages do happen, the expectations may be completely different. The woman may think of it as usual, just more long-distance, while he may think of her as less fully independent than Western women. Or maybe he will want her to be like a Western woman, but she won't be due to cultural upbringing. Maybe she thinks she'll get to break out of her traditional upbringing by marrying a Western man, but he might want what he thinks is a "traditional" wife.
Just seems fraught with issues.
In such arrangements, the expectations from both sides are completely different. It can work best if the woman's idea of a marriage is to stay at home and remain submissive to her partner. The men seeking mail-order brides are looking exactly for that.
Most of them would have no chance with an educated girl who was opinionated. They mostly end up getting used by such girls, as we can see in the video.
I cringed a little while watching this.
they were saying that the women in Russia is more than the men, because a lot of their men died in Afghan wars ect. So the women have a lot of competiton. Therefore they NEED men. There were a busload of white collar middle aged men, who were looking to hook up for marriage, and they spent maybe around 4 grand for this trip and everything to find a woman. Not including the money they will spend when they take out the woman.
I thought wow. these men really want a woman badly. One of the guys featured said one Russian girl gave him some handjobs and blowjobs or something, and he said cool...but he is NOT looking for a WHORE... he is looking for a wife.
I thought too..what the hell are these women doing?? are they just so horny they will give men easy lays— 😕 soooo NASTY!!!
They are probably trying their best to beat competition to find security, which the society they live in, is unable or unwilling to provide.
The men are equally lost, IMO. They are stuck in a primitive mindset and believe that by virtue of their being men alone, they can possess any woman and that all women ought to be grateful to have their attention. Being in their 50s & 60s, they are romancing girls less than half their age. The girls may be foreign and living in desperate circumstances, but they are no fools. They exercise the same judgment while choosing mates as any local woman might.
The man in the video said he was looking for a wife, but kept making the mistake of selecting the wrong women. So, the problem was not the fact that there are no eligible women in Texas, but that he's not good at relating with women.
It would be a better bargain if these men were to overcome their social awkwardness and date the local women, in which case there is a less chance of running into gold-diggers.
The worst part was the mentoring. The tour guide was referring to the women as fish that were to be caught? Just horrible!
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Posted by lisabethur8lol. who came up with that idea lolPosted by iCloud9sounds like that show Beauty and the Geek.
years ago i heard a friend of a friend married a mail order bride who was decent looking and maybe 1 ft taller than him. i heard that she would make him do most chores. he was a wimpy dorky engineer w/ no charm and no social skills to get women
last i heard he complained to my friend that his health has declined since the marriage. she probably abused him. poor guy. i hope he is still alive
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these men look for mail order brides, and the women are seeking ways to find security and love where there is none in their home country.
do you find it scary??