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Ooooh... this is an interesting and very good point:


In the old days ( "...when things were broken we fixed them, we didn't throw them away") it was about convenience, tradition, conformity and ultimately (and hopefully) a realistic romance turned life-long friendsip. These days it's about romantic ideals that don't even work out in romance novels ffs.



We've got the notion (courtesy of television etc) that passion should be at

a fever pitch for the duration of a marriage... which is a lie.

Respect, however (noted), is indispensable.


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Posted by Virgo21
I am sobbing and crying every day, I am on the verge of insanity. ..
I'm on team gtfo. I get it 25 years yada yada yada. Complications yada yada yada. But why keep going with something that is causing you insanity? Get away. Gain back your sanity.

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She was wearing exacly what I saw in my dream
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😐 On the libra moon bright side. You are fucking psychic and can now make lots of money.
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She's not the one that broke the vow, now is she?



So, I guess, according to you ...... emotional cheating on her part months before she had a sex dream about him (which in the twisted minds of some people here, a dream constitutes reality), isn't cheating.

I hate it when people talk out of their ass, and that was my only point to you, and the others who heard the word "cheat" and never actually comprehended what she said.

This woman is fucked up, and is a contributor to her fucked up situation. For anyone to tell her she has no fault in the demise of a 25 year relationship is a moron.
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Posted by DonJohnson
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25 years together.

with kids.



you are no longer just obligated to yourself. i wish women would understand this before leaving the man.


work on it and get to the root. see if he's actually contemplating leaving the marriage or it was only a physical fling. cheating happens every day....... massage parlors, bordellos and hookers don't pay for themselves. vast majority of men cheat. .
Twenty five years together is no joke or walk in the park plus children to show for it. Most men cheat and I'd probably pin that at 95% of them cheat. Some get caught and some don't. Giving up 25 years together is defintely going to be difficult to give up, but you might want to consider some very important factors before making a decision:

1) Is he a good father to the children?
2) If he financially provides for you and the kids, then is he a good provider?
3) Can you guys work out the issue via marriage counselling?
4) Can you forgive him and eventually start to trust him again?
5) Is he wanting out of the marriage for the other woman or no? Most likely he doesn't want out.

Although I don't agree with Don most of the time, in this case I would. Men don't cheat for the same reasons as women. If he did it for physical reasons (not getting enough), then I think that's forgivable, but if he did it because he's not emotionally satisfied with you, then yes, your relationship has run its course.
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Known devil is better than the unknown devil. If you leave this guy for cheating and then your next guy cheats as well (because 95% of them do cheat), then you remain on square one. It's better to tame the current douche you have.
87% of all statistics on the internet are made up.
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That wasn't an internet stat. I wouldn't believe those internet stats anyways given the pool they study. That was a percentage that I attibuted given my experiential knowledge. It's like what my aunt says, "Not that many guys refuse free pussy" especially one that you seem to be bonding with emotionally. This is why it's so much easier to cheat with a co-worker than a hooker. Guys may be able to refuse free kitty because it's disease ridden or what have you, but someone you bond with would be hard to refuse.

I've done an experiment of my own when I was younger which is where I got that 95% from. 😉
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25 years together.

with kids.



you are no longer just obligated to yourself. i wish women would understand this before leaving the man.


work on it and get to the root. see if he's actually contemplating leaving the marriage or it was only a physical fling. cheating happens every day....... massage parlors, bordellos and hookers don't pay for themselves. vast majority of men cheat. .
Twenty five years together is no joke or walk in the park plus children to show for it. Most men cheat and I'd probably pin that at 95% of them cheat. Some get caught and some don't. Giving up 25 years together is defintely going to be difficult to give up, but you might want to consider some very important factors before making a decision:

1) Is he a good father to the children?
2) If he financially provides for you and the kids, then is he a good provider?
3) Can you guys work out the issue via marriage counselling?
4) Can you forgive him and eventually start to trust him again?
5) Is he wanting out of the marriage for the other woman or no? Most likely he doesn't want out.

Although I don't agree with Don most of the time, in this case I would. Men don't cheat for the same reasons as women.

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I agree with him nearly of the time. But, most people cannot reason out a topic without subjecting their own feelings into the equation. When people got upset with the above statement, it's because their panties were wadded up their ass to tightly as they fantasized about them being cheated on. And in so doing, they completely misunderstood his point.

But, that wasn't his only point. People who have 25 years in a relationship have a lot more than just little females on dxp who cant manage their own love lives long enough to even get a commitment out of a man.

They flutter around from man to man, with unrealistic expectations ... so really have no realistic gauge for measuring the reality of a 25 yr marriage. Don did a pretty good job in conveying the reality here, as he usually does.



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Known devil is better than the unknown devil. If you leave this guy for cheating and then your next guy cheats as well (because 95% of them do cheat), then you remain on square one. It's better to tame the current douche you have.
I don't believe that 95% of men cheat.
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What percentage would you give to it?

Cheating has many forms. If a man is caught sleeping with the other woman where he has feelings for her, it started somewhere and that somewhere is the numerous conversations at work (insert place of meeting) where he and she were flirting or just working on a team together, playing nice.
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If you're bonding with it emotionally then how is it free pussy?

I guess I missed a lot because I don't know what you are meaning here.
Yeah, I'm lost as well. I don't know what you mean, Tiz, but I guessed and still responded above.
Are you saying that only the women is bonding with the man emotionally? Just for clarification
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Absolutely not! Both genders are capable of bonding (chatting with each other about similar interest etc.)
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From where I observe this situation ...... the travesty is in where this Virgo women is not present enough to realize what is going on in her own life.


The husband cheating isn't the cause, it's the effect. Just as her being this emotionally involved in the Libra is merely a reaction to the unhappiness of the marriage.

The undoing of this marriage is the fault of both parties, equally ... regardless of who cheated first. For people to counsel her and convey to her that she has no fault accomplishes in keeping her ignorant to the truth, because it gives her a false direction to lay guilt so she won't have to carry any responsibility.

If you want to help this woman, then advice along the lines of DonJ .... where is the value in the marriage, what is tolerable, what can be salvaged? If you want this man, then you have to have a proper perspective on what is in the best interest of all parties involved to include the adult children, if there are any.

If the marriage is finished, then this woman needs legal advice ... not some desperate women trying to encourage her not to be accountable for herself
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25 years together.

with kids.



you are no longer just obligated to yourself. i wish women would understand this before leaving the man.


work on it and get to the root. see if he's actually contemplating leaving the marriage or it was only a physical fling. cheating happens every day....... massage parlors, bordellos and hookers don't pay for themselves. vast majority of men cheat. .
Twenty five years together is no joke or walk in the park plus children to show for it. Most men cheat and I'd probably pin that at 95% of them cheat. Some get caught and some don't. Giving up 25 years together is defintely going to be difficult to give up, but you might want to consider some very important factors before making a decision:

1) Is he a good father to the children?
2) If he financially provides for you and the kids, then is he a good provider?
3) Can you guys work out the issue via marriage counselling?
4) Can you forgive him and eventually start to trust him again?
5) Is he wanting out of the marriage for the other woman or no? Most likely he doesn't want out.

Although I don't agree with Don most of the time, in this case I would. Men don't cheat for the same reasons as women.

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I agree with him nearly of the time. But, most people cannot reason out a topic without subjecting their own feelings into the equation. When people got upset with the above statement, it's because their panties were wadded up their ass to tightly as they fantasized about them being cheated on. And in so doing, they completely misunderstood his point.

But, that wasn't his only point. People who have 25 years in a relationship have a lot more than just little females on dxp who cant manage their own love lives long enough to even get a commitment out of a man.

They flutter around from man to man, with unrealistic expectations ... so really have no realistic gauge for measuring the reality of a 25 yr marriage. Don did a pretty good job in conveying th
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From where I observe this situation ...... the travesty is in where this Virgo women is not present enough to realize what is going on in her own life.


The husband cheating isn't the cause, it's the effect. Just as her being this emotionally involved in the Libra is merely a reaction to the unhappiness of the marriage.

The undoing of this marriage is the fault of both parties, equally ... regardless of who cheated first. For people to counsel her and convey to her that she has no fault accomplishes in keeping her ignorant to the truth, because it gives her a false direction to lay guilt so she won't have to carry any responsibility.

If you want to help this woman, then advice along the lines of DonJ .... where is the value in the marriage, what is tolerable, what can be salvaged? If you want this man, then you have to have a proper perspective on what is in the best interest of all parties involved to include the adult children, if there are any.

If the marriage is finished, then this woman needs legal advice ... not some desperate women trying to encourage her not to be accountable for herself
+10000.
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If you're bonding with it emotionally then how is it free pussy?

I guess I missed a lot because I don't know what you are meaning here.
Yeah, I'm lost as well. I don't know what you mean, Tiz, but I guessed and still responded above.
Are you saying that only the women is bonding with the man emotionally? Just for clarification
Absolutely not! Both genders are capable of bonding (chatting with each other about similar interest etc.)
Then either the way you worded it or you theory just outright doesn't make sense.

A good reason sex workers have the kind of job security they do is because the sex costs less in terms of losses than any emotional bond.

Something goes wrong with a call girl? Ok, you brush it off.

But once you start getting emotionally bonded with a woman there's no cap or ceiling on what could potentially go wrong or the damage to your lives.

Jack Reacher was a terrible film with one great line: "The cheapest woman tends to cost you the most."
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Ha! lol. The job of a sex worker is becoming obsolete in today's world. You don't need to pay when you can get it for free. What you're saying is great and dandy and logical, but given that a man is thinking logically. When a man thinks from his genital, all logic goes down the drain. He's not thinking "Oh wait, I'm screwing my secretary. What if shit hits the fan? Maybe I should just go pay for sex given that it won't cause much trouble" He's not thinking that. LOL just LOL.
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btw it's far more dysfunctional to raise a child as a single parent than to staying together, even if it means you will be unhappy for a while. this is a fact of life.
+1 and another bitter truth is that not many men wanna play daddy to someone else's kid. And if you do find a stellar guy who is okay with your children, make sure he ain't secretly molesting your kids or even using you for something.
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jesus aqua you have a really bad opinion of men.
Realistic, not bad. Do you know where one of the major difference is men and women's psyche comes from? It's the fact that we bear children. We carry them for 9 months and we go through extreme pain to get them out. A woman is more likely to think of her child's well being than the father. This is why men has no qualms before they jump into bed with other women. A woman, even though they're pretty emotional, still thinks about the ramfications because she thinks of her kids, marriage etc. There are always exceptions to the rule, but for the most part that's reality.
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Ha! lol. The job of a sex worker is becoming obsolete in today's world. You don't need to pay when you can get it for free. What you're saying is great and dandy and logical, but given that a man is thinking logically. When a man thinks from his genital, all logic goes down the drain. He's not thinking "Oh wait, I'm screwing my secretary. What if shit hits the fan? Maybe I should just go pay for sex given that it won't cause much trouble" He's not thinking that. LOL just LOL.
You can't be this naive, surely.

There are some people who have or still do work in the sex trade on this site alone and they'll likely be the first to say this is exactly why men pay for sex.

Why else would they pay for it when, as you just pointed out yourself, they could get it elsewhere for free? They are buying security.
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I'm sure there are people that pay, but you might want to look at why they pay. Factors like "not attractive enough, handicapped/restrictions, don't have time to woo a side chick, personality is shit and no one is falling for their advances". You sound really naive if you think that sex worker industry is going to last given our world today.

Let me be the first to admit that my bro in law recently cheated and went and paid. LOL @ amateur. My single bro was laughing his butt off when he found out that he paid. Even I was laughing when I heard he paid. In my brother's words: "Obviously he's a rookie and hasn't been on the field for some time" LOL.
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jesus aqua you have a really bad opinion of men.
Realistic, not bad. Do you know where one of the major difference is men and women's psyche comes from? It's the fact that we bear children. We carry them for 9 months and we go through extreme pain to get them out. A woman is more likely to think of her child's well being than the father. This is why men has no qualms before they jump into bed with other women. A woman, even though they're pretty emotional, still thinks about the ramfications because she thinks of her kids, marriage etc. There are always exceptions to the rule, but for the most part that's reality.
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you've basically called all of them cheaters and likely child molesters if they show responsibility by looking after someone else children if they are involved with their mother.

you can't really believe that. wasn't there a study which said women are just as likely, if not more, to cheat? you can give women a holier than thou, saintly persona but come on, i would hazard a guess and say that there are just as many terrible mothers as there are fathers out there (and vice versa).
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Ha! lol. The job of a sex worker is becoming obsolete in today's world. You don't need to pay when you can get it for free. What you're saying is great and dandy and logical, but given that a man is thinking logically. When a man thinks from his genital, all logic goes down the drain. He's not thinking "Oh wait, I'm screwing my secretary. What if shit hits the fan? Maybe I should just go pay for sex given that it won't cause much trouble" He's not thinking that. LOL just LOL.
You can't be this naive, surely.

There are some people who have or still do work in the sex trade on this site alone and they'll likely be the first to say this is exactly why men pay for sex.

Why else would they pay for it when, as you just pointed out yourself, they could get it elsewhere for free? They are buying security.
I'm sure there are people that pay, but you might want to look at why they pay. Factors like "not attractive enough, handicapped/restrictions, don't have time to woo a side chick, personality is shit and no one is falling for their advances". You sound really naive if you think that sex worker industry is going to last given our world today.

Let me be the first to admit that my bro in law recently cheated and went and paid. LOL @ amateur. My single bro was laughing his butt off when he found out that he paid. Even I was laughing when I heard he paid. In my brother's words: "Obviously he's a rookie and hasn't been on the field for some time" LOL.
You're saying you believe the sex industry is going to go out of business?


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Prostitutes will be going out of business soon time 🙂 Average woman is better than a prostitute. She cooks, cleans, offers sex, and all that for free without her needs being met. I know so many women who do all of that without getting what they want (a commitment/marriage/title) from a guy. For example, I know a woman who cooks, cleans, drives her man to his minimum wage job, pays for dates, gives sex i
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jesus aqua you have a really bad opinion of men.
Realistic, not bad. Do you know where one of the major difference is men and women's psyche comes from? It's the fact that we bear children. We carry them for 9 months and we go through extreme pain to get them out. A woman is more likely to think of her child's well being than the father. This is why men has no qualms before they jump into bed with other women. A woman, even though they're pretty emotional, still thinks about the ramfications because she thinks of her kids, marriage etc. There are always exceptions to the rule, but for the most part that's reality.
you've basically called all of them cheaters and likely child molesters if they show responsibility by looking after someone else children if they are involved with their mother.

you can't really believe that. wasn't there a study which said women are just as likely, if not more, to cheat? you can give women a holier than thou, saintly persona but come on, i would hazard a guess and say that there are just as many terrible mothers as there are fathers out there (and vice versa).
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I didn't call ALL of them cheaters, which is why I said 95% . There's 5% that don't which is exceptions to the rule. And your hunky dory perspective of a man playing father to some other dude's children is also naive. I"m sure there are exceptions and I have seen those exceptions, but once again, that's not the rule.
Why are you bringing a study in when you were the one that said that the figures are fabricated? I don't believe in those studies. I go by what I see and observe. There are bad mothers out there, but women, once again, are MORE LIKELY than men to think about the children
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Prostitutes will be going out of business soon time 🙂 Average woman is better than a prostitute. She cooks, cleans, offers sex, and all that for free without her needs being met. I know so many women who do all of that without getting what they want (a commitment/marriage/title) from a guy. For example, I know a woman who cooks, cleans, drives her man to his minimum wage job, pays for dates, gives sex i
don't let the human traffickers know that.

are think you are just having us on. you don't mean what you are saying.

actually prostitution in the uk is on the rise. seems to be a result of dave cameron's government.
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Prostitutes will be going out of business soon time 🙂 Average woman is better than a prostitute. She cooks, cleans, offers sex, and all that for free without her needs being met. I know so many women who do all of that without getting what they want (a commitment/marriage/title) from a guy. For example, I know a woman who cooks, cleans, drives her man to his minimum wage job, pays for dates, gives sex i
don't let the human traffickers know that.

are think you are just having us on. you don't mean what you are saying.

actually prostitution in the uk is on the rise. seems to be a result of dave cameron's government.
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Prostitute on the rise? Where did you get this? Might I remind you that you said that figures in these studies are fabricated. You don't need studies or stats to know the obvious. You just need to know human nature and the society that you reside in to know what is the predominant behaviour.
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I didn't call ALL of them cheaters, which is why I said 95% . There's 5% that don't which is exceptions to the rule. And your hunky dory perspective of a man playing father to some other dude's children is also naive. I"m sure there are exceptions and I have seen those exceptions, but once again, that's not the rule.
Why are you bringing a study in when you were the one that said that the figures are fabricated? I don't believe in those studies. I go by what I see and observe. There are bad mothers out there, but women, once again, are MORE LIKELY than men to think about the children
hence the word, basically...

i've seen many examples of men raising another man's children. if you've seen it and i've seen it, can it be an exception?

oh god! you're so humourless! the other post was a joke! you are hard work.

so we can gather from this that you believe your own bullshit over actual evidence and studies. good. at least we can now gauge your opinion.
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Prostitutes will be going out of business soon time 🙂 Average woman is better than a prostitute. She cooks, cleans, offers sex, and all that for free without her needs being met. I know so many women who do all of that without getting what they want (a commitment/marriage/title) from a guy. For example, I know a woman who cooks, cleans, drives her man to his minimum wage job, pays for dates, gives sex i
don't let the human traffickers know that.

are think you are just having us on. you don't mean what you are saying.

actually prostitution in the uk is on the rise. seems to be a result of dave cameron's government.
Prostitute on the rise? Where did you get this? Might I remind you that you said that figures in these studies are fabricated. You don't need studies or stats to know the obvious. You just need to know human nature and the society that you reside in to know what is the predominant behaviour.
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the ons in the uk actually. but wait you don't believe any statistics other than those you make up in your head.

in regards to human trafficking, it is claimed to be the fastest growing global crime. it's ok though, we'll just go on what you have seen anecdotally.
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What's odd is you're presenting a view that's completely, diametrically opposed to Don Johnson's view on page 2.

I disagree with you both, but for wildly different reasons.


There's another harsh reality about men and the male ego. It's not very well equipped to handle the idea a woman you're sleeping with has bigger priorities than you.

That's why one of the first conversations men often have between buddies when they know someone has just started sleeping with a new woman is:"you sure you know what you're doing?"

Because once she starts having bigger priorities than him or treating him like "take it or leave it", a lot of men end up throwing their lives away and acting out. I've seen it happen too many times, it's ugly.


I'm only mentioning this.... you know.... on the off chance that in a few years or decades' time.... the sex industry is somehow still alive and well. Just in case.


If availability of sex or skill in attracting women meant men didn't spend money for professionals, then explain the undoing of Dominique Strauss-Kahn's whole life.
Who is Dominique Strauss?

Men can have whatever conservations they want. I'm talking about their actions. Their talk doesn't always match their actions. lol. A lot of guys also say they like women au naturel/that don't wear a lot of women, but observe them and you'll see them eyeing the ones that look hot with their caked on make up.
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I didn't call ALL of them cheaters, which is why I said 95% . There's 5% that don't which is exceptions to the rule. And your hunky dory perspective of a man playing father to some other dude's children is also naive. I"m sure there are exceptions and I have seen those exceptions, but once again, that's not the rule.
Why are you bringing a study in when you were the one that said that the figures are fabricated? I don't believe in those studies. I go by what I see and observe. There are bad mothers out there, but women, once again, are MORE LIKELY than men to think about the children
hence the word, basically...

i've seen many examples of men raising another man's children. if you've seen it and i've seen it, can it be an exception?

oh god! you're so humourless! the other post was a joke! you are hard work.

so we can gather from this that you believe your own bullshit over actual evidence and studies. good. at least we can now gauge your opinion.
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I'll let you stick to the studies, which are fabricated, and if not, half the time when you analyze the candidates or what went into the study, you start laughing. Don't always believe what you see. People often see a study, read it and conclude it must be true. How many people actualy delve into researching the basis of that study or where they got the info? Not that many. If you did, you'd laugh how preposterous some of them are.

I've seen ONE exception adn I've seen 5 rules, which makes me call that one time an exception.
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What's odd is you're presenting a view that's completely, diametrically opposed to Don Johnson's view on page 2.

I disagree with you both, but for wildly different reasons.


There's another harsh reality about men and the male ego. It's not very well equipped to handle the idea a woman you're sleeping with has bigger priorities than you.

That's why one of the first conversations men often have between buddies when they know someone has just started sleeping with a new woman is:"you sure you know what you're doing?"

Because once she starts having bigger priorities than him or treating him like "take it or leave it", a lot of men end up throwing their lives away and acting out. I've seen it happen too many times, it's ugly.


I'm only mentioning this.... you know.... on the off chance that in a few years or decades' time.... the sex industry is somehow still alive and well. Just in case.


If availability of sex or skill in attracting women meant men didn't spend money for professionals, then explain the undoing of Dominique Strauss-Kahn's whole life.
Who is Dominique Strauss?

Men can have whatever conservations they want. I'm talking about their actions. Their talk doesn't always match their actions. lol. A lot of guys also say they like women au naturel/that don't wear a lot of women, but observe them and you'll see them eyeing the ones that look hot with their caked on make up.
Former head of the IMF. Could have had any woman he wanted. But the way he wanted to do it was by funding basically half of Paris' sex circuit as his own private entertainment for half a year.

I was just explaining why men spend money on sex. Mostly it's because it costs less than getting emotionally involved.
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don't forget silvio berlusconi. why have one woman when you can lots of different ones?
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I didn't call ALL of them cheaters, which is why I said 95% . There's 5% that don't which is exceptions to the rule. And your hunky dory perspective of a man playing father to some other dude's children is also naive. I"m sure there are exceptions and I have seen those exceptions, but once again, that's not the rule.
Why are you bringing a study in when you were the one that said that the figures are fabricated? I don't believe in those studies. I go by what I see and observe. There are bad mothers out there, but women, once again, are MORE LIKELY than men to think about the children
hence the word, basically...

i've seen many examples of men raising another man's children. if you've seen it and i've seen it, can it be an exception?

oh god! you're so humourless! the other post was a joke! you are hard work.

so we can gather from this that you believe your own bullshit over actual evidence and studies. good. at least we can now gauge your opinion.
I'll let you stick to the studies, which are fabricated, and if not, half the time when you analyze the candidates or what went into the study, you start laughing. Don't always believe what you see. People often see a study, read it and conclude it must be true. How many people actualy delve into researching the basis of that study or where they got the info? Not that many. If you did, you'd laugh how preposterous some of them are.

I've seen ONE exception adn I've seen 5 rules, which makes me call that one time an exception.
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confirmation bias.
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What's odd is you're presenting a view that's completely, diametrically opposed to Don Johnson's view on page 2.

I disagree with you both, but for wildly different reasons.


There's another harsh reality about men and the male ego. It's not very well equipped to handle the idea a woman you're sleeping with has bigger priorities than you.

That's why one of the first conversations men often have between buddies when they know someone has just started sleeping with a new woman is:"you sure you know what you're doing?"

Because once she starts having bigger priorities than him or treating him like "take it or leave it", a lot of men end up throwing their lives away and acting out. I've seen it happen too many times, it's ugly.


I'm only mentioning this.... you know.... on the off chance that in a few years or decades' time.... the sex industry is somehow still alive and well. Just in case.


If availability of sex or skill in attracting women meant men didn't spend money for professionals, then explain the undoing of Dominique Strauss-Kahn's whole life.
Who is Dominique Strauss?

Men can have whatever conservations they want. I'm talking about their actions. Their talk doesn't always match their actions. lol. A lot of guys also say they like women au naturel/that don't wear a lot of women, but observe them and you'll see them eyeing the ones that look hot with their caked on make up.
Former head of the IMF. Could have had any woman he wanted. But the way he wanted to do it was by funding basically half of Paris' sex circuit as his own private entertainment for half a year.

I was just explaining why men spend money on sex. Mostly it's because it costs less than getting emotionally involved.
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Like I said before, there are some people that pay adn the pattern seems to really wealthy people grabbing prostitutes and I would think it has something to do with professionalism/they want it to be discreet. I'm talking about an average guy who doesn't necessarily have funds to throw on
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I didn't call ALL of them cheaters, which is why I said 95% . There's 5% that don't which is exceptions to the rule. And your hunky dory perspective of a man playing father to some other dude's children is also naive. I"m sure there are exceptions and I have seen those exceptions, but once again, that's not the rule.
Why are you bringing a study in when you were the one that said that the figures are fabricated? I don't believe in those studies. I go by what I see and observe. There are bad mothers out there, but women, once again, are MORE LIKELY than men to think about the children
hence the word, basically...

i've seen many examples of men raising another man's children. if you've seen it and i've seen it, can it be an exception?

oh god! you're so humourless! the other post was a joke! you are hard work.

so we can gather from this that you believe your own bullshit over actual evidence and studies. good. at least we can now gauge your opinion.
I'll let you stick to the studies, which are fabricated, and if not, half the time when you analyze the candidates or what went into the study, you start laughing. Don't always believe what you see. People often see a study, read it and conclude it must be true. How many people actualy delve into researching the basis of that study or where they got the info? Not that many. If you did, you'd laugh how preposterous some of them are.

I've seen ONE exception adn I've seen 5 rules, which makes me call that one time an exception.
confirmation bias.
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Says the great one who claims the figures in studies are made up. Just LOL.
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Tiz, I forgot which movie it was, but the idea was basically a secret network between CEOs/high profile individuals that would recruit prostitutes for pleasure because

a) didn't have any social time outside of their work
b) they wanted to be very discreet as their reputation was on the line. I guess they expect professionalism from a prostitute.

I forgot what the other reasons were, but basically the movie talked about how high profile individuals seeking out prostitutes but their reasons make sense.
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Says the great one who claims the figures in studies are made up. Just LOL.
irony really isn't your thing is it?

i'm going to try to explain it to you. bear with me.

"87% of all statistics that appear on the internet are made up." (sic)

the joke lies in that this is a statistic that appears on the internet and therefore is most likely made up.

do you understand now? do you get it? do you need a lie down with an orange juice and a biscuit?
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Says the great one who claims the figures in studies are made up. Just LOL.
irony really isn't your thing is it?

i'm going to try to explain it to you. bear with me.

"87% of all statistics that appear on the internet are made up." (sic)

the joke lies in that this is a statistic that appears on the internet and therefore is most likely made up.

do you understand now? do you get it? do you need a lie down with an orange juice and a biscuit?
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Oh, I"m so sorry. I should've known you were joking because I really know your online presence and your writing style since I stalk you on here.

#sarcasm. lol. Thanks for explaining your joke because I wasn't going to get it.