Pisces Woman murdered by 2nd decan Cancer Man? (Page 3)

Posted by AbbyNormal

Where’s the body cam footage?

Posted by nanobotz

She could have been dead for an entire month, in a super hot environment with insects? I hope they will be able to find cause of death. They suspect the body would decompose very fast.

Posted by nanobotz

What do you wanna bet the family sent law enforcement and FBI on a wild goose chase in a 24 thousand acre reserve, in the opposite direction of where he actually went, so he can escape like the little bitch coward he is

Posted by nanobotz

I found this video, and it’s very eerie to watch. This is supposedly the helicopter footage of when they discovered her body - they walk right to the area and place a tent over it. You can see under the tent and the surrounding area. I can’t see anything. Looks like she was maybe buried??

https://www.crimeonline.com/2021/09/20/was-gabby-buried/

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Posted by The_Spirit_of_Alex_Trebek

Jeezus, are people really complaining about people taking an interest in a murder case? STFU

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Posted by The_Spirit_of_Alex_Trebek

Jeezus, are people really complaining about people taking an interest in a murder case? STFU

Lol I know. If you ignore them, they tend to stfu on their own.

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Posted by AbbyNormal

Where’s the body cam footage?

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by nanobotz

She could have been dead for an entire month, in a super hot environment with insects? I hope they will be able to find cause of death. They suspect the body would decompose very fast.

I am hopeful the autopsy will reveal enough information to get her justice.

She was last seen on 8/24

Spoke to her mom on 8/25

Video of the van in Teton taken by another blogger and where her body was recovered only 200 yards away was recorded on 8/27. So that's like what? 22/23 days presumably.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by nanobotz

She could have been dead for an entire month, in a super hot environment with insects? I hope they will be able to find cause of death. They suspect the body would decompose very fast.

I am hopeful the autopsy will reveal enough information to get her justice.

She was last seen on 8/24

Spoke to her mom on 8/25

Video of the van in Teton taken by another blogger and where her body was recovered only 200 yards away was recorded on 8/27. So that's like what? 22/23 days presumably.

She’s clearly alive on the 13th it looks like for the body cam footage, so that closes the window even further.

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Posted by nanobotz

I think it’s more about the domestic violence component, and how no one wants to have a conversation about it or act like it’s happening. When it’s happening all the time, everywhere. How relatable it is for so many of us women, who have had relationships where it starts off with maybe him taking your phone, or not wanting you to go out with your friends, maybe he’s drunk and pushed you for the first time. And seeing how it can escalate, how dangerous it is. Cases like these, help women identify red flags and keep them safer. I can’t wrap my head around so many cases like this…. that so many men think they can just kill women when they get in their feelings? It’s insane to even fathom.

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Posted by AbbyNormal

Where’s the body cam footage?

Thank you! I’d be surprised to find out that the Moab couple killing was connected to this. Also, that this was anything other than accidental. I could very well see this as a heated couple fight gone wrong, he accidentally kills her and then flips out and doesn’t know what to do. Unlike the murderer someone mentioned above, I don’t get the same feeling when I watch this guy. He doesn’t just scream “He did it!” like with other dude, the Taurus. I watched the footage of them searching the home and he looked so guilty it wasn’t even funny! Of course, that was watching someone after the fact rather than before like in this footage.

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Posted by AbbyNormal

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Posted by AbbyNormal

Where’s the body cam footage?

Thank you! I’d be surprised to find out that the Moab couple killing was connected to this. Also, that this was anything other than accidental. I could very well see this as a heated couple fight gone wrong, he accidentally kills her and then flips out and doesn’t know what to do. Unlike the murderer someone mentioned above, I don’t get the same feeling when I watch this guy. He doesn’t just scream “He did it!” like with other dude, the Taurus. I watched the footage of them searching the home and he looked so guilty it wasn’t even funny! Of course, that was watching someone after the fact rather than before like in this footage.

I got the same feeling from Brian as I did for Chris watts right away, this guy is guilty, his portrayal of innocence is so fake in police stop video. His mask was easy to see in that situation, it’s a shame they didn’t monitor his movements 24/7 once he came back home without her like they should have.

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Posted by nanobotz

I think it’s more about the domestic violence component, and how no one wants to have a conversation about it or act like it’s happening. When it’s happening all the time, everywhere. How relatable it is for so many of us women, who have had relationships where it starts off with maybe him taking your phone, or not wanting you to go out with your friends, maybe he’s drunk and pushed you for the first time. And seeing how it can escalate, how dangerous it is. Cases like these, help women identify red flags and keep them safer. I can’t wrap my head around so many cases like this…. that so many men think they can just kill women when they get in their feelings? It’s insane to even fathom.

Maybe it's an issue in the US but you've lost perspective on the real issue here.

The real issue is stamping out any type of abuse regardless of gender. Acting as if all forms of abuse originate from men is both factually incorrect, naive and very dangerous.

I literally never said or implied that only just women experience abuse. I’m speaking on this case, and the many women before who have had partners murder them.

Are you suggesting that statistically, women aren’t abused more by men, than the other way around. And that men in general aren’t a much bigger threat and danger to women, then women are to men? Have you had a significant other, way taller, bigger, stronger attack you? The fights not very equal. We don’t stand much of a chance, unless specially trained in defense.

When’s the last time you had to feel unsafe knowing you’ll be walking down a street after sun down, or felt uncomfortable walking across a dark parking lot at night. For me - it’s very often. In a few months, I even have to change my work hours to avoid putting myself in a potentially dangerous situation of walking to my car after dark because of a strange man who works 1 building over. Men don’t really have to worry about that shit as often as far as I know, yea??

Your entire previous post labelled women as victims and men as the perpetrators, so please stop the backtracking.

Anyone who uses size and strength as an excuse to sweep the issue of female-generated abuse under the carpet obviously refuses to see the issue from a humanist perspective (irrespective of gender).

What, so all men should be made accountable but not women? Size shouldn’t matter – if a woman slaps a man’s face, she should be prosecuted in the same way that a man would for punching her. And there should be no leniency because the woman is, theoretically, of a smaller frame.

This isn’t just about physical abuse, but verbal, emotional and psychological abuse as well. Denying other forms of abuse inflicted upon others is ignoring THE MAJORITY of incidences relating to abuse. But I suppose that just provides a distorted perspective on the actual truth, which greatly favours women in general (thus moving the spotlight away from women’s abusive tendencies).

Research has been conducted that concludes women are just as likely (if not more likely) to be abusive towards their male partners. Also, in many cases where domestic situations escalated into violence, it was the female partner who aggravated the situation – through verbal abuse, blocking their male partner from escaping or walking away, damaging personal property, etc. While physical abuse is never right, most cases are never cut and dry enough to be simplified.

And what about all the emotional and psychological harm that women inflict on men? What about the false sexual assault allegations that ruins reputations (which such women are never arrested and convicted for)? What about the lies told in divorce and custody courts (mostly out of spite or for financial gain)? What about the physical abuse that men tolerate (and don’t reciprocate) but never officially report? What about the proven fact that most cases of child cruelty is inflicted by mothers and not fathers?

And cut the crap about how unsafe you feel – everyone is in danger every single day. Any one of us, regardless of gender, could die or be maimed at the hands of someone else.

So, please, take your flawed, toxic, feminist propaganda elsewhere.

You are taking a lot of time and effort to argue in defense of something that was never disputed in the first place. This thread is about Gabby Petito and has diverged to the other topic, of women being victims. Men have exploited, abused, raped, murdered women without consequence for millennia. Do you think that just goes away the past 50-100 years? It doesn’t. These are facts.

What research? Where are you getting your stats that it’s equal or more likely that women abuse men? Because we aren’t seeing the same ones at all. You live in the UK right? https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/domestic-abuse-is-a-gendered-crime/

Tons of stats here. Domestic abuse is experienced by men and women. But generally speaking, again, it’s a gendered crime ^

I personally don’t agree at all that if a woman slaps a man “romantic comedy style ” for lack of better description, it should be charged the same as a man full strength punching a woman and blacking her eyes and knocking teeth out. And there’s nothing grosser to me than women who lie about rape or abuse to manipulate/financially gain. But let me ask you how often are these lies happening vs the truth being told, or female victims staying silent all together though? I also don’t agree for a second that men and women are in the same exact danger of walking down a dark alley at night. There’s no way you can believe that. You’re seeming to minimize how many women get murdered/kidnapped/raped/assaulted under those very same circumstances. Every day. That’s virtually not happening when genders are swapped.

The way the system seems to work, doesn’t really account for emotional or psychological abuse. It should. Because a lot of female victims get restraining orders granted to them due to those very reasons, and men kill them anyway.

No one said men aren’t abused, Gobbie 🙄🙄 I think you and I are basically arguing the same side when you aren’t putting words in my mouth. But you want to play the role of contrarian, I get it.

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Posted by nanobotz

Posted by Gobbie

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Posted by Gobbie

Posted by nanobotz

I think it’s more about the domestic violence component, and how no one wants to have a conversation about it or act like it’s happening. When it’s happening all the time, everywhere. How relatable it is for so many of us women, who have had relationships where it starts off with maybe him taking your phone, or not wanting you to go out with your friends, maybe he’s drunk and pushed you for the first time. And seeing how it can escalate, how dangerous it is. Cases like these, help women identify red flags and keep them safer. I can’t wrap my head around so many cases like this…. that so many men think they can just kill women when they get in their feelings? It’s insane to even fathom.

Maybe it's an issue in the US but you've lost perspective on the real issue here.

The real issue is stamping out any type of abuse regardless of gender. Acting as if all forms of abuse originate from men is both factually incorrect, naive and very dangerous.

I literally never said or implied that only just women experience abuse. I’m speaking on this case, and the many women before who have had partners murder them.

Are you suggesting that statistically, women aren’t abused more by men, than the other way around. And that men in general aren’t a much bigger threat and danger to women, then women are to men? Have you had a significant other, way taller, bigger, stronger attack you? The fights not very equal. We don’t stand much of a chance, unless specially trained in defense.

When’s the last time you had to feel unsafe knowing you’ll be walking down a street after sun down, or felt uncomfortable walking across a dark parking lot at night. For me - it’s very often. In a few months, I even have to change my work hours to avoid putting myself in a potentially dangerous situation of walking to my car after dark because of a strange man who works 1 building over. Men don’t really have to worry about that shit as often as far as I know, yea??

Your entire previous post labelled women as victims and men as the perpetrators, so please stop the backtracking.

Anyone who uses size and strength as an excuse to sweep the issue of female-generated abuse under the carpet obviously refuses to see the issue from a humanist perspective (irrespective of gender).

What, so all men should be made accountable but not women? Size shouldn’t matter – if a woman slaps a man’s face, she should be prosecuted in the same way that a man would for punching her. And there should be no leniency because the woman is, theoretically, of a smaller frame.

This isn’t just about physical abuse, but verbal, emotional and psychological abuse as well. Denying other forms of abuse inflicted upon others is ignoring THE MAJORITY of incidences relating to abuse. But I suppose that just provides a distorted perspective on the actual truth, which greatly favours women in general (thus moving the spotlight away from women’s abusive tendencies).

Research has been conducted that concludes women are just as likely (if not more likely) to be abusive towards their male partners. Also, in many cases where domestic situations escalated into violence, it was the female partner who aggravated the situation – through verbal abuse, blocking their male partner from escaping or walking away, damaging personal property, etc. While physical abuse is never right, most cases are never cut and dry enough to be simplified.

And what about all the emotional and psychological harm that women inflict on men? What about the false sexual assault allegations that ruins reputations (which such women are never arrested and convicted for)? What about the lies told in divorce and custody courts (mostly out of spite or for financial gain)? What about the physical abuse that men tolerate (and don’t reciprocate) but never officially report? What about the proven fact that most cases of child cruelty is inflicted by mothers and not fathers?

And cut the crap about how unsafe you feel – everyone is in danger every single day. Any one of us, regardless of gender, could die or be maimed at the hands of someone else.

So, please, take your flawed, toxic, feminist propaganda elsewhere.

You are taking a lot of time and effort to argue in defense of something that was never disputed in the first place. This thread is about Gabby Petito and has diverged to the other topic, of women being victims. Men have exploited, abused, raped, murdered women without consequence for millennia. Do you think that just goes away the past 50-100 years? It doesn’t. These are facts.

What research? Where are you getting your stats that it’s equal or more likely that women abuse men? Because we aren’t seeing the same ones at all. You live in the UK right? https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/domestic-abuse-is-a-gendered-crime/

Tons of stats here. Domestic abuse is experienced by men and women. But generally speaking, again, it’s a gendered crime ^

I personally don’t agree at all that if a woman slaps a man “romantic comedy style ” for lack of better description, it should be charged the same as a man full strength punching a woman and blacking her eyes and knocking teeth out. And there’s nothing grosser to me than women who lie about rape or abuse to manipulate/financially gain. But let me ask you how often are these lies happening vs the truth being told, or female victims staying silent all together though? I also don’t agree for a second that men and women are in the same exact danger of walking down a dark alley at night. There’s no way you can believe that. You’re seeming to minimize how many women get murdered/kidnapped/raped/assaulted under those very same circumstances. Every day. That’s virtually not happening when genders are swapped.

The way the system seems to work, doesn’t really account for emotional or psychological abuse. It should. Because a lot of female victims get restraining orders granted to them due to those very reasons, and men kill them anyway.

No one said men aren’t abused, Gobbie 🙄🙄 I think you and I are basically arguing the same side when you aren’t putting words in my mouth. But you want to play the role of contrarian, I get it.

He's the type of dude who wants to comment "not all men" on posts where women talk about abuse and assault.

Read the room. This thread is about the abuse and resulting murder of a WOMAN at the hands of a MAN.

Idk what opinion articles he's looking at as 'research' but its widely known and acknowledged that men commit assault and homicide at much much MUCH higher rates then women. Out of the women who are murdered 58% are killed by a partner or ex partner. 3 women are murdered every day in the US by their spouses or intimate partners. And this is the statistics from SOLVED cases... 1/3rd are unsolved. Violence against women is pervasive and deadly.

The most dangerous place for a woman is still in her own home.

Imagine how fragile your masculinity must be that you feel threatened by women sharing how they must approach a world that doesn't prioritize their safety.

He's such a fucking baby.

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Posted by AbbyNormal

Posted by nanobotz

I think it’s more about the domestic violence component, and how no one wants to have a conversation about it or act like it’s happening. When it’s happening all the time, everywhere. How relatable it is for so many of us women, who have had relationships where it starts off with maybe him taking your phone, or not wanting you to go out with your friends, maybe he’s drunk and pushed you for the first time. And seeing how it can escalate, how dangerous it is. Cases like these, help women identify red flags and keep them safer. I can’t wrap my head around so many cases like this…. that so many men think they can just kill women when they get in their feelings? It’s insane to even fathom.

I can appreciate all of this. But it shouldn’t be just the guys who should keep their hands to themselves—women should be held to the same standard, even if most of the time we can’t do as much physical damage. Keep your hands to yourself is the lesson I take from here.

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Posted by nanobotz

Posted by Gobbie

Posted by nanobotz

Posted by Gobbie

Posted by nanobotz

I think it’s more about the domestic violence component, and how no one wants to have a conversation about it or act like it’s happening. When it’s happening all the time, everywhere. How relatable it is for so many of us women, who have had relationships where it starts off with maybe him taking your phone, or not wanting you to go out with your friends, maybe he’s drunk and pushed you for the first time. And seeing how it can escalate, how dangerous it is. Cases like these, help women identify red flags and keep them safer. I can’t wrap my head around so many cases like this…. that so many men think they can just kill women when they get in their feelings? It’s insane to even fathom.

Maybe it's an issue in the US but you've lost perspective on the real issue here.

The real issue is stamping out any type of abuse regardless of gender. Acting as if all forms of abuse originate from men is both factually incorrect, naive and very dangerous.

I literally never said or implied that only just women experience abuse. I’m speaking on this case, and the many women before who have had partners murder them.

Are you suggesting that statistically, women aren’t abused more by men, than the other way around. And that men in general aren’t a much bigger threat and danger to women, then women are to men? Have you had a significant other, way taller, bigger, stronger attack you? The fights not very equal. We don’t stand much of a chance, unless specially trained in defense.

When’s the last time you had to feel unsafe knowing you’ll be walking down a street after sun down, or felt uncomfortable walking across a dark parking lot at night. For me - it’s very often. In a few months, I even have to change my work hours to avoid putting myself in a potentially dangerous situation of walking to my car after dark because of a strange man who works 1 building over. Men don’t really have to worry about that shit as often as far as I know, yea??

Your entire previous post labelled women as victims and men as the perpetrators, so please stop the backtracking.

Anyone who uses size and strength as an excuse to sweep the issue of female-generated abuse under the carpet obviously refuses to see the issue from a humanist perspective (irrespective of gender).

What, so all men should be made accountable but not women? Size shouldn’t matter – if a woman slaps a man’s face, she should be prosecuted in the same way that a man would for punching her. And there should be no leniency because the woman is, theoretically, of a smaller frame.

This isn’t just about physical abuse, but verbal, emotional and psychological abuse as well. Denying other forms of abuse inflicted upon others is ignoring THE MAJORITY of incidences relating to abuse. But I suppose that just provides a distorted perspective on the actual truth, which greatly favours women in general (thus moving the spotlight away from women’s abusive tendencies).

Research has been conducted that concludes women are just as likely (if not more likely) to be abusive towards their male partners. Also, in many cases where domestic situations escalated into violence, it was the female partner who aggravated the situation – through verbal abuse, blocking their male partner from escaping or walking away, damaging personal property, etc. While physical abuse is never right, most cases are never cut and dry enough to be simplified.

And what about all the emotional and psychological harm that women inflict on men? What about the false sexual assault allegations that ruins reputations (which such women are never arrested and convicted for)? What about the lies told in divorce and custody courts (mostly out of spite or for financial gain)? What about the physical abuse that men tolerate (and don’t reciprocate) but never officially report? What about the proven fact that most cases of child cruelty is inflicted by mothers and not fathers?

And cut the crap about how unsafe you feel – everyone is in danger every single day. Any one of us, regardless of gender, could die or be maimed at the hands of someone else.

So, please, take your flawed, toxic, feminist propaganda elsewhere.

You are taking a lot of time and effort to argue in defense of something that was never disputed in the first place. This thread is about Gabby Petito and has diverged to the other topic, of women being victims. Men have exploited, abused, raped, murdered women without consequence for millennia. Do you think that just goes away the past 50-100 years? It doesn’t. These are facts.

What research? Where are you getting your stats that it’s equal or more likely that women abuse men? Because we aren’t seeing the same ones at all. You live in the UK right? https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/domestic-abuse-is-a-gendered-crime/

Tons of stats here. Domestic abuse is experienced by men and women. But generally speaking, again, it’s a gendered crime ^

I personally don’t agree at all that if a woman slaps a man “romantic comedy style ” for lack of better description, it should be charged the same as a man full strength punching a woman and blacking her eyes and knocking teeth out. And there’s nothing grosser to me than women who lie about rape or abuse to manipulate/financially gain. But let me ask you how often are these lies happening vs the truth being told, or female victims staying silent all together though? I also don’t agree for a second that men and women are in the same exact danger of walking down a dark alley at night. There’s no way you can believe that. You’re seeming to minimize how many women get murdered/kidnapped/raped/assaulted under those very same circumstances. Every day. That’s virtually not happening when genders are swapped.

The way the system seems to work, doesn’t really account for emotional or psychological abuse. It should. Because a lot of female victims get restraining orders granted to them due to those very reasons, and men kill them anyway.

No one said men aren’t abused, Gobbie 🙄🙄 I think you and I are basically arguing the same side when you aren’t putting words in my mouth. But you want to play the role of contrarian, I get it.

He's the type of dude who wants to comment "not all men" on posts where women talk about abuse and assault.

Read the room. This thread is about the abuse and resulting murder of a WOMAN at the hands of a MAN.

Idk what opinion articles he's looking at as 'research' but its widely known and acknowledged that men commit assault and homicide at much much MUCH higher rates then women. Out of the women who are murdered 58% are killed by a partner or ex partner. 3 women are murdered every day in the US by their spouses or intimate partners. And this is the statistics from SOLVED cases... 1/3rd are unsolved. Violence against women is pervasive and deadly.

The most dangerous place for a woman is still in her own home.

Imagine how fragile your masculinity must be that you feel threatened by women sharing how they must approach a world that doesn't prioritize their safety.

He's such a fucking baby.

Look, I think it’s fair to say a lot of women hit men well knowing they won’t hit them back. So when they do, why be surprised? It goes both ways! That’s all I think this is.

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Posted by nanobotz

I think it’s more about the domestic violence component, and how no one wants to have a conversation about it or act like it’s happening. When it’s happening all the time, everywhere. How relatable it is for so many of us women, who have had relationships where it starts off with maybe him taking your phone, or not wanting you to go out with your friends, maybe he’s drunk and pushed you for the first time. And seeing how it can escalate, how dangerous it is. Cases like these, help women identify red flags and keep them safer. I can’t wrap my head around so many cases like this…. that so many men think they can just kill women when they get in their feelings? It’s insane to even fathom.

Maybe it's an issue in the US but you've lost perspective on the real issue here.

The real issue is stamping out any type of abuse regardless of gender. Acting as if all forms of abuse originate from men is both factually incorrect, naive and very dangerous.

I literally never said or implied that only just women experience abuse. I’m speaking on this case, and the many women before who have had partners murder them.

Are you suggesting that statistically, women aren’t abused more by men, than the other way around. And that men in general aren’t a much bigger threat and danger to women, then women are to men? Have you had a significant other, way taller, bigger, stronger attack you? The fights not very equal. We don’t stand much of a chance, unless specially trained in defense.

When’s the last time you had to feel unsafe knowing you’ll be walking down a street after sun down, or felt uncomfortable walking across a dark parking lot at night. For me - it’s very often. In a few months, I even have to change my work hours to avoid putting myself in a potentially dangerous situation of walking to my car after dark because of a strange man who works 1 building over. Men don’t really have to worry about that shit as often as far as I know, yea??

Your entire previous post labelled women as victims and men as the perpetrators, so please stop the backtracking.

Anyone who uses size and strength as an excuse to sweep the issue of female-generated abuse under the carpet obviously refuses to see the issue from a humanist perspective (irrespective of gender).

What, so all men should be made accountable but not women? Size shouldn’t matter – if a woman slaps a man’s face, she should be prosecuted in the same way that a man would for punching her. And there should be no leniency because the woman is, theoretically, of a smaller frame.

This isn’t just about physical abuse, but verbal, emotional and psychological abuse as well. Denying other forms of abuse inflicted upon others is ignoring THE MAJORITY of incidences relating to abuse. But I suppose that just provides a distorted perspective on the actual truth, which greatly favours women in general (thus moving the spotlight away from women’s abusive tendencies).

Research has been conducted that concludes women are just as likely (if not more likely) to be abusive towards their male partners. Also, in many cases where domestic situations escalated into violence, it was the female partner who aggravated the situation – through verbal abuse, blocking their male partner from escaping or walking away, damaging personal property, etc. While physical abuse is never right, most cases are never cut and dry enough to be simplified.

And what about all the emotional and psychological harm that women inflict on men? What about the false sexual assault allegations that ruins reputations (which such women are never arrested and convicted for)? What about the lies told in divorce and custody courts (mostly out of spite or for financial gain)? What about the physical abuse that men tolerate (and don’t reciprocate) but never officially report? What about the proven fact that most cases of child cruelty is inflicted by mothers and not fathers?

And cut the crap about how unsafe you feel – everyone is in danger every single day. Any one of us, regardless of gender, could die or be maimed at the hands of someone else.

So, please, take your flawed, toxic, feminist propaganda elsewhere.

You are taking a lot of time and effort to argue in defense of something that was never disputed in the first place. This thread is about Gabby Petito and has diverged to the other topic, of women being victims. Men have exploited, abused, raped, murdered women without consequence for millennia. Do you think that just goes away the past 50-100 years? It doesn’t. These are facts.

What research? Where are you getting your stats that it’s equal or more likely that women abuse men? Because we aren’t seeing the same ones at all. You live in the UK right? https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/domestic-abuse-is-a-gendered-crime/

Tons of stats here. Domestic abuse is experienced by men and women. But generally speaking, again, it’s a gendered crime ^

I personally don’t agree at all that if a woman slaps a man “romantic comedy style ” for lack of better description, it should be charged the same as a man full strength punching a woman and blacking her eyes and knocking teeth out. And there’s nothing grosser to me than women who lie about rape or abuse to manipulate/financially gain. But let me ask you how often are these lies happening vs the truth being told, or female victims staying silent all together though? I also don’t agree for a second that men and women are in the same exact danger of walking down a dark alley at night. There’s no way you can believe that. You’re seeming to minimize how many women get murdered/kidnapped/raped/assaulted under those very same circumstances. Every day. That’s virtually not happening when genders are swapped.

The way the system seems to work, doesn’t really account for emotional or psychological abuse. It should. Because a lot of female victims get restraining orders granted to them due to those very reasons, and men kill them anyway.

No one said men aren’t abused, Gobbie 🙄🙄 I think you and I are basically arguing the same side when you aren’t putting words in my mouth. But you want to play the role of contrarian, I get it.

He's the type of dude who wants to comment "not all men" on posts where women talk about abuse and assault.

Read the room. This thread is about the abuse and resulting murder of a WOMAN at the hands of a MAN.

Idk what opinion articles he's looking at as 'research' but its widely known and acknowledged that men commit assault and homicide at much much MUCH higher rates then women. Out of the women who are murdered 58% are killed by a partner or ex partner. 3 women are murdered every day in the US by their spouses or intimate partners. And this is the statistics from SOLVED cases... 1/3rd are unsolved. Violence against women is pervasive and deadly.

The most dangerous place for a woman is still in her own home.

Imagine how fragile your masculinity must be that you feel threatened by women sharing how they must approach a world that doesn't prioritize their safety.

He's such a fucking baby.

Thanks for posting those actual numbers, I was beginning to wonder if I was crazy or referring to some old stats that no longer apply. Because I was 99.9% that they were something like that. That’s what I’m talking about… the CONTEXT of the thread!

I’ve been assaulted by men multiple times, and I would be willing to bet EVERY woman in this thread has too. More than once. In the very places we were supposed to be safe. It’s the sad reality.

We can discuss domestic violence against men in a thread when something like this comes up when roles are reversed….. oh wait…. That might be awhile 😵‍💫😵‍💫 Because this simply just doesn’t happen to men but at a tiny fraction.

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Where’s the body cam footage?

Thank you! I’d be surprised to find out that the Moab couple killing was connected to this. Also, that this was anything other than accidental. I could very well see this as a heated couple fight gone wrong, he accidentally kills her and then flips out and doesn’t know what to do. Unlike the murderer someone mentioned above, I don’t get the same feeling when I watch this guy. He doesn’t just scream “He did it!” like with other dude, the Taurus. I watched the footage of them searching the home and he looked so guilty it wasn’t even funny! Of course, that was watching someone after the fact rather than before like in this footage.

I got the same feeling from Brian as I did for Chris watts right away, this guy is guilty, his portrayal of innocence is so fake in police stop video. His mask was easy to see in that situation, it’s a shame they didn’t monitor his movements 24/7 once he came back home without her like they should have.

I see nervousness yes, but not like Chris Watts. It’s hard to explain, but I just don’t get the same feeling here—now that’s literally after watching one encounter with him when she’s still alive! So I couldn’t say truly without watching an after the fact video of him. What I see is a passionate young couple, no real malice. Just two kids who can’t keep their feelings under control, I think we are all guilty of that at some point. There isn’t a reason or motive to speak of! They seem to love each other! Or at least be codependent. Either way, it doesn’t scream to me murderer. Maybe I’m missing something but I could totally see this as heat of moment, crime of passion such. Like maybe they were fighting and she tripped and fell and hit her head! There’s not even a clear means of death yet, just homicide. I’m interested to hear what they find out.

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I think it’s more about the domestic violence component, and how no one wants to have a conversation about it or act like it’s happening. When it’s happening all the time, everywhere. How relatable it is for so many of us women, who have had relationships where it starts off with maybe him taking your phone, or not wanting you to go out with your friends, maybe he’s drunk and pushed you for the first time. And seeing how it can escalate, how dangerous it is. Cases like these, help women identify red flags and keep them safer. I can’t wrap my head around so many cases like this…. that so many men think they can just kill women when they get in their feelings? It’s insane to even fathom.

Maybe it's an issue in the US but you've lost perspective on the real issue here.

The real issue is stamping out any type of abuse regardless of gender. Acting as if all forms of abuse originate from men is both factually incorrect, naive and very dangerous.

I literally never said or implied that only just women experience abuse. I’m speaking on this case, and the many women before who have had partners murder them.

Are you suggesting that statistically, women aren’t abused more by men, than the other way around. And that men in general aren’t a much bigger threat and danger to women, then women are to men? Have you had a significant other, way taller, bigger, stronger attack you? The fights not very equal. We don’t stand much of a chance, unless specially trained in defense.

When’s the last time you had to feel unsafe knowing you’ll be walking down a street after sun down, or felt uncomfortable walking across a dark parking lot at night. For me - it’s very often. In a few months, I even have to change my work hours to avoid putting myself in a potentially dangerous situation of walking to my car after dark because of a strange man who works 1 building over. Men don’t really have to worry about that shit as often as far as I know, yea??

Your entire previous post labelled women as victims and men as the perpetrators, so please stop the backtracking.

Anyone who uses size and strength as an excuse to sweep the issue of female-generated abuse under the carpet obviously refuses to see the issue from a humanist perspective (irrespective of gender).

What, so all men should be made accountable but not women? Size shouldn’t matter – if a woman slaps a man’s face, she should be prosecuted in the same way that a man would for punching her. And there should be no leniency because the woman is, theoretically, of a smaller frame.

This isn’t just about physical abuse, but verbal, emotional and psychological abuse as well. Denying other forms of abuse inflicted upon others is ignoring THE MAJORITY of incidences relating to abuse. But I suppose that just provides a distorted perspective on the actual truth, which greatly favours women in general (thus moving the spotlight away from women’s abusive tendencies).

Research has been conducted that concludes women are just as likely (if not more likely) to be abusive towards their male partners. Also, in many cases where domestic situations escalated into violence, it was the female partner who aggravated the situation – through verbal abuse, blocking their male partner from escaping or walking away, damaging personal property, etc. While physical abuse is never right, most cases are never cut and dry enough to be simplified.

And what about all the emotional and psychological harm that women inflict on men? What about the false sexual assault allegations that ruins reputations (which such women are never arrested and convicted for)? What about the lies told in divorce and custody courts (mostly out of spite or for financial gain)? What about the physical abuse that men tolerate (and don’t reciprocate) but never officially report? What about the proven fact that most cases of child cruelty is inflicted by mothers and not fathers?

And cut the crap about how unsafe you feel – everyone is in danger every single day. Any one of us, regardless of gender, could die or be maimed at the hands of someone else.

So, please, take your flawed, toxic, feminist propaganda elsewhere.

You are taking a lot of time and effort to argue in defense of something that was never disputed in the first place. This thread is about Gabby Petito and has diverged to the other topic, of women being victims. Men have exploited, abused, raped, murdered women without consequence for millennia. Do you think that just goes away the past 50-100 years? It doesn’t. These are facts.

What research? Where are you getting your stats that it’s equal or more likely that women abuse men? Because we aren’t seeing the same ones at all. You live in the UK right? https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/domestic-abuse-is-a-gendered-crime/

Tons of stats here. Domestic abuse is experienced by men and women. But generally speaking, again, it’s a gendered crime ^

I personally don’t agree at all that if a woman slaps a man “romantic comedy style ” for lack of better description, it should be charged the same as a man full strength punching a woman and blacking her eyes and knocking teeth out. And there’s nothing grosser to me than women who lie about rape or abuse to manipulate/financially gain. But let me ask you how often are these lies happening vs the truth being told, or female victims staying silent all together though? I also don’t agree for a second that men and women are in the same exact danger of walking down a dark alley at night. There’s no way you can believe that. You’re seeming to minimize how many women get murdered/kidnapped/raped/assaulted under those very same circumstances. Every day. That’s virtually not happening when genders are swapped.

The way the system seems to work, doesn’t really account for emotional or psychological abuse. It should. Because a lot of female victims get restraining orders granted to them due to those very reasons, and men kill them anyway.

No one said men aren’t abused, Gobbie 🙄🙄 I think you and I are basically arguing the same side when you aren’t putting words in my mouth. But you want to play the role of contrarian, I get it.

“You are taking a lot of time and effort to argue in defense of something that was never disputed in the first place.”

Ah, so now you’re dictating how I should reply to your post? That sounds pretty controlling [or is that abusive?], doesn’t it?

You’re the one who started this, not me. Maybe if you actually expressed some of these sentiments earlier on we wouldn’t be here. But, of course, it’s much easier for you to gaslight me than to admit that the context of your post wasn't balanced enough and sent out the wrong message, eh?

As for statistics, why would anyone rely on biased stats from a charity organisation that exists ONLY for female victims of domestic abuse? Let’s not forget that virtually all charities are corrupt in some way. Are you seriously THAT naive? LOL!

How about relying on independent sources instead. Try reading ‘Domestic Violence: The 12 Things You Aren't Supposed to Know’ by Thomas B. James. Based on extensive research, it’s a real eye opener. And then there’s the research paper ’Man up and Take It: Gender Bias in Moral Typecasting’, which examines gender bias and how social conditioning greatly contributes towards that.

Btw, the term ‘gendered crime’ is nothing more than a political device to place all importance on female abuse victims, whilst DENOUNCING male abuse victims. And believe me, it will be exploited by many evil women. All those who coined and put this term into action deserve to burn in hell for all eternity.

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Where’s the body cam footage?

Thank you! I’d be surprised to find out that the Moab couple killing was connected to this. Also, that this was anything other than accidental. I could very well see this as a heated couple fight gone wrong, he accidentally kills her and then flips out and doesn’t know what to do. Unlike the murderer someone mentioned above, I don’t get the same feeling when I watch this guy. He doesn’t just scream “He did it!” like with other dude, the Taurus. I watched the footage of them searching the home and he looked so guilty it wasn’t even funny! Of course, that was watching someone after the fact rather than before like in this footage.

I got the same feeling from Brian as I did for Chris watts right away, this guy is guilty, his portrayal of innocence is so fake in police stop video. His mask was easy to see in that situation, it’s a shame they didn’t monitor his movements 24/7 once he came back home without her like they should have.

I see nervousness yes, but not like Chris Watts. It’s hard to explain, but I just don’t get the same feeling here—now that’s literally after watching one encounter with him when she’s still alive! So I couldn’t say truly without watching an after the fact video of him. What I see is a passionate young couple, no real malice. Just two kids who can’t keep their feelings under control, I think we are all guilty of that at some point. There isn’t a reason or motive to speak of! They seem to love each other! Or at least be codependent. Either way, it doesn’t scream to me murderer. Maybe I’m missing something but I could totally see this as heat of moment, crime of passion such. Like maybe they were fighting and she tripped and fell and hit her head! There’s not even a clear means of death yet, just homicide. I’m interested to hear what they find out.

I have a feeling it’s going to be determined to be death by strangulation, he looks like someone who would do that.

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Where’s the body cam footage?

Thank you! I’d be surprised to find out that the Moab couple killing was connected to this. Also, that this was anything other than accidental. I could very well see this as a heated couple fight gone wrong, he accidentally kills her and then flips out and doesn’t know what to do. Unlike the murderer someone mentioned above, I don’t get the same feeling when I watch this guy. He doesn’t just scream “He did it!” like with other dude, the Taurus. I watched the footage of them searching the home and he looked so guilty it wasn’t even funny! Of course, that was watching someone after the fact rather than before like in this footage.

I got the same feeling from Brian as I did for Chris watts right away, this guy is guilty, his portrayal of innocence is so fake in police stop video. His mask was easy to see in that situation, it’s a shame they didn’t monitor his movements 24/7 once he came back home without her like they should have.

I see nervousness yes, but not like Chris Watts. It’s hard to explain, but I just don’t get the same feeling here—now that’s literally after watching one encounter with him when she’s still alive! So I couldn’t say truly without watching an after the fact video of him. What I see is a passionate young couple, no real malice. Just two kids who can’t keep their feelings under control, I think we are all guilty of that at some point. There isn’t a reason or motive to speak of! They seem to love each other! Or at least be codependent. Either way, it doesn’t scream to me murderer. Maybe I’m missing something but I could totally see this as heat of moment, crime of passion such. Like maybe they were fighting and she tripped and fell and hit her head! There’s not even a clear means of death yet, just homicide. I’m interested to hear what they find out.

I have a feeling it’s going to be determined to be death by strangulation, he looks like someone who would do that.

PLOT TWIST- What if he ended up killing her the same way as the other Moab woman? What if he is the "creepy guy"!?

The police are keeping a tight lid on cause of death.

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Where’s the body cam footage?

Thank you! I’d be surprised to find out that the Moab couple killing was connected to this. Also, that this was anything other than accidental. I could very well see this as a heated couple fight gone wrong, he accidentally kills her and then flips out and doesn’t know what to do. Unlike the murderer someone mentioned above, I don’t get the same feeling when I watch this guy. He doesn’t just scream “He did it!” like with other dude, the Taurus. I watched the footage of them searching the home and he looked so guilty it wasn’t even funny! Of course, that was watching someone after the fact rather than before like in this footage.

I got the same feeling from Brian as I did for Chris watts right away, this guy is guilty, his portrayal of innocence is so fake in police stop video. His mask was easy to see in that situation, it’s a shame they didn’t monitor his movements 24/7 once he came back home without her like they should have.

I see nervousness yes, but not like Chris Watts. It’s hard to explain, but I just don’t get the same feeling here—now that’s literally after watching one encounter with him when she’s still alive! So I couldn’t say truly without watching an after the fact video of him. What I see is a passionate young couple, no real malice. Just two kids who can’t keep their feelings under control, I think we are all guilty of that at some point. There isn’t a reason or motive to speak of! They seem to love each other! Or at least be codependent. Either way, it doesn’t scream to me murderer. Maybe I’m missing something but I could totally see this as heat of moment, crime of passion such. Like maybe they were fighting and she tripped and fell and hit her head! There’s not even a clear means of death yet, just homicide. I’m interested to hear what they find out.

I have a feeling it’s going to be determined to be death by strangulation, he looks like someone who would do that.

PLOT TWIST- What if he ended up killing her the same way as the other Moab woman? What if he is the "creepy guy"!?

The police are keeping a tight lid on cause of death.

He was called creepy by the people at the bar he was at in the 26th I believed

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Sad because the divers are risking their lives looking for Brian when it seems like it was a rouse.

Is fbi that stupid or do they actually know he’s there ?

because dogs detected his scent?

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I thought I saw somewhere where there was an ultrasound showing she was pregnant. Maybe this triggered him.

i saw that theory too on LipstickAlley 💔

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The internet has already wrote the narrative as him being guilty. Even the body cams are being perceived and twisted in different ways.

I don't know what happened and neither does anyone else so the witch hunt is kind of gross.

How do we know she didn't get pissed off, throw him out of the van and then end up killing herself?

He couldn't find her and threw up his hands and made his way home. After not hearing from her, got spooked and ran.

She was obviously having an episode when they were pulled over.

I havent seen anything proving someone called in him hitting her. I did see video implying she hit him while driving and they hit a curb...and that is why they got pulled over.

I'm not taking sides because, again....none of us were there. I just think we are ridiculous in how quick we are acting as judge, jury and executioner.

I actually agree.

If he hadn't of taken her van and left her, things may have come out a little differently for him instead of it being this witch hunt. He should've found his own way home without taking her property.

Or reported her missing right away.

There were 2 other young women murdered around the same time frame that gabby went missing. I would've thought (still do to some degree) that they were connected. Same perpetrator targeting young white blond women in the area.

I don't fault him for not wanting to speak with police and lawyering up. That's what you gotta do because they are looking to pin the crime on the most convenient person... they aren't actually looking to find the truth.

But him being in possession of the van and on camera with it out in the area where they retrieved her body... and returning home to Florida with the van and no Gabby... smells pretty guilty to me. If he didn't kill her, he knows what did. So why the cover up if he's not guilty? Why discard the body and run?

I also am curious why he left and travelled back to Florida between august 17th to 23rd. Allegedly to clean out a storage unit with both of their items. Why do that? He then returns and they checked out of the hotel on the 24th and the last anyone heard from her was on the 25th.

The two young women were last seen August 13th in a tavern that shares the same parking lot where Gabby and Brian had their altercation a day later... and they were found August 18th shot to death in their campsite. The last text they sent to a friend said they noticed some creepy guy lurking around. "If we die tonight it's because we were murdered".

I really feel in my gut these murders are connected.

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The internet has already wrote the narrative as him being guilty. Even the body cams are being perceived and twisted in different ways.

I don't know what happened and neither does anyone else so the witch hunt is kind of gross.

How do we know she didn't get pissed off, throw him out of the van and then end up killing herself?

He couldn't find her and threw up his hands and made his way home. After not hearing from her, got spooked and ran.

She was obviously having an episode when they were pulled over.

I havent seen anything proving someone called in him hitting her. I did see video implying she hit him while driving and they hit a curb...and that is why they got pulled over.

I'm not taking sides because, again....none of us were there. I just think we are ridiculous in how quick we are acting as judge, jury and executioner.

I actually agree.

If he hadn't of taken her van and left her, things may have come out a little differently for him instead of it being this witch hunt. He should've found his own way home without taking her property.

Or reported her missing right away.

There were 2 other young women murdered around the same time frame that gabby went missing. I would've thought (still do to some degree) that they were connected. Same perpetrator targeting young white blond women in the area.

I don't fault him for not wanting to speak with police and lawyering up. That's what you gotta do because they are looking to pin the crime on the most convenient person... they aren't actually looking to find the truth.

But him being in possession of the van and on camera with it out in the area where they retrieved her body... and returning home to Florida with the van and no Gabby... smells pretty guilty to me. If he didn't kill her, he knows what did. So why the cover up if he's not guilty? Why discard the body and run?

I also am curious why he left and travelled back to Florida between august 17th to 23rd. Allegedly to clean out a storage unit with both of their items. Why do that? He then returns and they checked out of the hotel on the 24th and the last anyone heard from her was on the 25th.

The two young women were last seen August 13th in a tavern that shares the same parking lot where Gabby and Brian had their altercation a day later... and they were found August 18th shot to death in their campsite. The last text they sent to a friend said they noticed some creepy guy lurking around. "If we die tonight it's because we were murdered".

I really feel in my gut these murders are connected.

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The internet has already wrote the narrative as him being guilty. Even the body cams are being perceived and twisted in different ways.

I don't know what happened and neither does anyone else so the witch hunt is kind of gross.

How do we know she didn't get pissed off, throw him out of the van and then end up killing herself?

He couldn't find her and threw up his hands and made his way home. After not hearing from her, got spooked and ran.

She was obviously having an episode when they were pulled over.

I havent seen anything proving someone called in him hitting her. I did see video implying she hit him while driving and they hit a curb...and that is why they got pulled over.

I'm not taking sides because, again....none of us were there. I just think we are ridiculous in how quick we are acting as judge, jury and executioner.

If she killed herself, or just took off on him, then he should have had no problem telling authorities what she did as soon as it happened. No way in hell should you not report someone your with killing themselves, or just taking off on you as soon as it happens. Quit making bs excuses for killers, it’s fucking sickening how many people are even coming up with this crap for this dirt bag.

Any good judge of character can see who this guy is after watching that police cam footage. I know many won’t be able to see it, but he definitely did it and had it in him to do it. Nothing in that footage tells me he wouldn’t do something like killing gabby.

I got the same thought and feeling after watching his police cam footage to the cam footage of Chris watts being questioned about his wife and daughter’s disappearance, he definitely did it but won’t admit it until the walls cave in on him. But unlike Chris watts, I have a feeling Brian will take the easy way out when his walls do cave in.

I’m now interested to hear the cause of her death, I have a feeling it’s going to be by strangulation, I can see him doing that to her.

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Scorpios defending each other, whats new.

Nobody is defending anyone, Kittens. Fucking shit stirrer.

If he did it, he did it.

We've just gone through four years of bizarro reporting and made up lies to fit agendas....I'm not a fan of "I heard", "There was some link", "Someone on SM said", "I have visions of him murdering her".

Those statements get innocent people killed.

I would rather hold my judgement until facts are revealed.

*edit btw, fuck off.

No one is actually wanted him to be hanged until hes proven guilty, Elle. But people deserve to be mad at him because he doesn't make this situation any easier.

Maybe you too would shows more genuine, spontaneuous emotion and not be too technical about this situation if Brian Laundrie was in fact, not your birthday twin.

You're muted again until this situation is cleared.

You are an idiot if you think "Birthday Twin" is even a thing. The only thing we share is a Sun.

You do know she has an Aries moon, right?

Which one of my placements do I fancy the most?

You are muting me but I'm the "Karen". Ffs, I don't even know why I bother to even read or respond to your posts. Huge waste of energy.

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Posted by _elle_

The internet has already wrote the narrative as him being guilty. Even the body cams are being perceived and twisted in different ways.

I don't know what happened and neither does anyone else so the witch hunt is kind of gross.

How do we know she didn't get pissed off, throw him out of the van and then end up killing herself?

He couldn't find her and threw up his hands and made his way home. After not hearing from her, got spooked and ran.

She was obviously having an episode when they were pulled over.

I havent seen anything proving someone called in him hitting her. I did see video implying she hit him while driving and they hit a curb...and that is why they got pulled over.

I'm not taking sides because, again....none of us were there. I just think we are ridiculous in how quick we are acting as judge, jury and executioner.

If she killed herself, or just took off on him, then he should have had no problem telling authorities what she did as soon as it happened. No way in hell should you not report someone your with killing themselves, or just taking off on you as soon as it happens. Quit making bs excuses for killers, it’s fucking sickening how many people are even coming up with this crap for this dirt bag.

Any good judge of character can see who this guy is after watching that police cam footage. I know many won’t be able to see it, but he definitely did it and had it in him to do it. Nothing in that footage tells me he wouldn’t do something like killing gabby.

I got the same thought and feeling after watching his police cam footage to the cam footage of Chris watts being questioned about his wife and daughter’s disappearance, he definitely did it but won’t admit it until the walls cave in on him. But unlike Chris watts, I have a feeling Brian will take the easy way out when his walls do cave in.

I’m now interested to hear the cause of her death, I have a feeling it’s going to be by strangulation, I can see him doing that to her.

I read that this is the way that most murderers who know their victims very well kill them.

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If you read my posts properly, you'd see that it's not about that.

It's about ignoring the fact that women can be abusers too and how society is turning a blind eye to this.

Is society really turning a blind eye though? I don't think anyone here denied that women can be abusers too....

You need to seriously stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

Is that what you think I'm doing?

For a start, tell how me many places of refuge exist (exclusively) for male victims of abuse, in comparison to female victims of abuse. That fact alone should give you a true idea of the reality.

There are men’s homeless shelters all around the states that they may go to for refuge. Even in small towns.

Please stop playing victim.

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She could have been dead for an entire month, in a super hot environment with insects? I hope they will be able to find cause of death. They suspect the body would decompose very fast.

I am hopeful the autopsy will reveal enough information to get her justice.

She was last seen on 8/24

Spoke to her mom on 8/25

Video of the van in Teton taken by another blogger and where her body was recovered only 200 yards away was recorded on 8/27th. So that's like what? 22/23 days presumably.

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I think it’s more about the domestic violence component, and how no one wants to have a conversation about it or act like it’s happening. When it’s happening all the time, everywhere. How relatable it is for so many of us women, who have had relationships where it starts off with maybe him taking your phone, or not wanting you to go out with your friends, maybe he’s drunk and pushed you for the first time. And seeing how it can escalate, how dangerous it is. Cases like these, help women identify red flags and keep them safer. I can’t wrap my head around so many cases like this…. that so many men think they can just kill women when they get in their feelings? It’s insane to even fathom.

I can appreciate all of this. But it shouldn’t be just the guys who should keep their hands to themselves—women should be held to the same standard, even if most of the time we can’t do as much physical damage. Keep your hands to yourself is the lesson I take from here.

I really like this comment on the police report image kitten linked, I’m going to link it since idk how to upload photos here anymore:

https://imgur.com/a/bpDpHCh

While I definitely agree, I also know firsthand based on personal experiences that sometimes shit gets so entirely complicated and fucked up, often these situations truly cannot be boiled down to something so easy as “don’t hit each other.”

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Posted by nanobotz

I think it’s more about the domestic violence component, and how no one wants to have a conversation about it or act like it’s happening. When it’s happening all the time, everywhere. How relatable it is for so many of us women, who have had relationships where it starts off with maybe him taking your phone, or not wanting you to go out with your friends, maybe he’s drunk and pushed you for the first time. And seeing how it can escalate, how dangerous it is. Cases like these, help women identify red flags and keep them safer. I can’t wrap my head around so many cases like this…. that so many men think they can just kill women when they get in their feelings? It’s insane to even fathom.

I can appreciate all of this. But it shouldn’t be just the guys who should keep their hands to themselves—women should be held to the same standard, even if most of the time we can’t do as much physical damage. Keep your hands to yourself is the lesson I take from here.

So it’s OK for a man to take your security your keys your phone and leave you stranded in the wilderness that’s whT I got here

Oh plus be slapped

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Posted by AbbyNormal

Where’s the body cam footage?

Thank you! I’d be surprised to find out that the Moab couple killing was connected to this. Also, that this was anything other than accidental. I could very well see this as a heated couple fight gone wrong, he accidentally kills her and then flips out and doesn’t know what to do. Unlike the murderer someone mentioned above, I don’t get the same feeling when I watch this guy. He doesn’t just scream “He did it!” like with other dude, the Taurus. I watched the footage of them searching the home and he looked so guilty it wasn’t even funny! Of course, that was watching someone after the fact rather than before like in this footage.

I got the same feeling from Brian as I did for Chris watts right away, this guy is guilty, his portrayal of innocence is so fake in police stop video. His mask was easy to see in that situation, it’s a shame they didn’t monitor his movements 24/7 once he came back home without her like they should have.

I see nervousness yes, but not like Chris Watts. It’s hard to explain, but I just don’t get the same feeling here—now that’s literally after watching one encounter with him when she’s still alive! So I couldn’t say truly without watching an after the fact video of him. What I see is a passionate young couple, no real malice. Just two kids who can’t keep their feelings under control, I think we are all guilty of that at some point. There isn’t a reason or motive to speak of! They seem to love each other! Or at least be codependent. Either way, it doesn’t scream to me murderer. Maybe I’m missing something but I could totally see this as heat of moment, crime of passion such. Like maybe they were fighting and she tripped and fell and hit her head! There’s not even a clear means of death yet, just homicide. I’m interested to hear what they find out.

I have a feeling it’s going to be determined to be death by strangulation, he looks like someone who would do that.

PLOT TWIST- What if he ended up killing her the same way as the other Moab woman? What if he is the "creepy guy"!?

The police are keeping a tight lid on cause of death.

He was called creepy by the people at the bar he was at in the 26th I believed

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