Lol that's an opposite from what I was told...but I am glad o haven't tried to find prove! Lol
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Posted by GemitatiLol at shove itPosted by TerramineLightvoidMy affair is THAT old! Shove it!Posted by GemitatiPosted by TerramineLightvoidIt's been almost decade moron!Posted by GemitatiPosted by TerramineLightvoidSo?Posted by Gemitati
But my affair doesn't!
Yur a sick fuck.
Karma is a bitch: You'll lose your marriage, but then you'll find out there is no love in affairs, so you'll also lose your affair when you try to go to them for love.
Lose - Lose
And I just had best date of my life...again!
So shut ya hell up retard!
A decade since what?
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You should be on the stage haha
Posted by MyStarsShineExactly! I said that not too long ago. Life is changing and one day you wake upPosted by TerramineLightvoidPosted by Smidge
well, one, that time hasn't come yet. i'm still not ready to be in another relationship as i believe i still have shiz to figure out on my own.
also, we're in different places in our life now.
to go back to him would be like moving backwards for me, and it would be for him also, i'm sure.
change has to happen.
Lmao not in love. Love is the one thing that never changes. If it allegedly does, then there was no love to begin with.
This is exactly why women are the true cause of all the heartbreak in the world. Sure men become players. But it is only because of this shit. Because women don't naturally have loyalty in them.
I mean. You are flagrantly wrong. Love is a fixed position. Not a mutability or a cardinality. To say "change has to happen" in regards to love is to say that you have to abandon love. Which is the most evil thing ever.
You aren't even asking him. How he feels about all of this. You aren't asking him if he can even accept being without you. You can't assume on his behalf. If he wasn't in the wrong. Then why is it a step backwards. He isn't a part of your lack of self development.
What about when people fall out of love? Love isn't always fixed. I would say it is between parents and chilidren ... Well it should be. Between two adults it can break down and the love can change form or even cease..people move on from each other
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and for no apparent reason it's not there anymore!
So kill me! I don't love you anymore! Make
Me! No you can't. And no one knows why!
Saying women are the cause of all the heartbreak in the world is very extreme.....and untrue.....lots of men break women's hearts as well as the opposite. Men abuse children and rape and cause trauma to women ... Men start wars
Posted by MyStarsShineLet's build me one for everyone's amusement!Posted by GemitatiLol at shove itPosted by TerramineLightvoidMy affair is THAT old! Shove it!Posted by GemitatiPosted by TerramineLightvoidIt's been almost decade moron!Posted by GemitatiPosted by TerramineLightvoidSo?Posted by Gemitati
But my affair doesn't!
Yur a sick fuck.
Karma is a bitch: You'll lose your marriage, but then you'll find out there is no love in affairs, so you'll also lose your affair when you try to go to them for love.
Lose - Lose
And I just had best date of my life...again!
So shut ya hell up retard!
A decade since what?
You should be on the stage haha
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I am sure I will be like Howard Stern she! Lol
Posted by MyStarsShineI had always thought men are blamed for heart breaks! Look at posts here! He is an ass and abuser and he slept with my sister!
Saying women are the cause of all the heartbreak in the world is very extreme.....and untrue.....lots of men break women's hearts as well as the opposite. Men abuse children and rape and cause trauma to women ... Men start wars
What do you want?
I want him baaaaack!
Curtains!
Posted by TerramineLightvoidWhat does loyalty have to do with it? I'm a successful woman. I don't want a loser who does very little with his life and has no ambition.Posted by pinkbird03
I broke up with a guy because there was no romantic spark and I didn't see a future with him. I don't think he was going far in life.
Right because love is going for an upgrade LOLOLOL
I swear. This attitude right here. This is why men are playas. Caused women don't know what loyalty is from the get go. Herpderp.click to expand
Posted by TerramineLightvoidPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TerramineLightvoidPosted by Smidge
well, one, that time hasn't come yet. i'm still not ready to be in another relationship as i believe i still have shiz to figure out on my own.
also, we're in different places in our life now.
to go back to him would be like moving backwards for me, and it would be for him also, i'm sure.
change has to happen.
Lmao not in love. Love is the one thing that never changes. If it allegedly does, then there was no love to begin with.
This is exactly why women are the true cause of all the heartbreak in the world. Sure men become players. But it is only because of this shit. Because women don't naturally have loyalty in them.
I mean. You are flagrantly wrong. Love is a fixed position. Not a mutability or a cardinality. To say "change has to happen" in regards to love is to say that you have to abandon love. Which is the most evil thing ever.
You aren't even asking him. How he feels about all of this. You aren't asking him if he can even accept being without you. You can't assume on his behalf. If he wasn't in the wrong. Then why is it a step backwards. He isn't a part of your lack of self development.
What about when people fall out of love? Love isn't always fixed. I would say it is between parents and chilidren ... Well it should be. Between two adults it can break down and the love can change form or even cease..people move on from each other
That isn't love. Love isn't a journey, it is an end result. Love is not passions and infatuations. It isn't relating and connecting. Love is merely reaching the point where someone is more important than yourself.
So what you are describing is just simply. A lie. It isn't love at all, never was. If you "fall out of love" you were never in love to begin with. I know because I speak from example. I love somebody who moved on and abandoned me. I love them and only them and will only ever love them and only them.
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Yes I have expienced that once....with our son....unconditional love, it never changes
You may find as you mature, another love.......you are 23 and the brain doesn't grow to full capacity until around 25, our thought patterns change somewhat .... I think and feel very differently to when I was that age
Don't give up hope ... Love may come around again for you
Posted by TerramineLightvoidTHAT is stupid!Posted by GemitatiPosted by MyStarsShineI had always thought men are blamed for heart breaks! Look at posts here! He is an ass and abuser and he slept with my sister!
Saying women are the cause of all the heartbreak in the world is very extreme.....and untrue.....lots of men break women's hearts as well as the opposite. Men abuse children and rape and cause trauma to women ... Men start wars
What do you want?
I want him baaaaack!
Curtains!
Men are like that because women can't achieve TRUE loyalty so there is only 3 options for us men:
-Kill ourselves
-Give up on the idea of Love
-Kill our emotions and become heartless
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Posted by TerramineLightvoidPosted by MyStarsShine
Yes I have expienced that once....with our son....unconditional love, it never changes
You may find as you mature, another love.......you are 23 and the brain doesn't grow to full capacity until around 25, our thought patterns change somewhat .... I think and feel very differently to when I was that age
Don't give up hope ... Love may come around again for you
If I don't get to experience young love. Definitely not. That relationship was purely long distance. I have never been with a person, in person.
If nobody wanted to be with me when my body is young and prime. Why would they ever want me when I'm old?
It us easy for you to say probably. You probably had plenty of young mindless sex and got caught up in unserious relationships earlier on like most people.click to expand
I never had mindless sex....I was always in rships. I couldn't do the casual thing...I thought sex was too precious to throw around so you judged me wrong there
Lots of women like older men .... Keep yourself fit and healthy, although if you choose to stay alone, that is your choice.
Posted by TerramineLightvoidVery interesting view point but I don't get what's disquisting.Posted by Gemitati
I had always thought men are blamed for heart breaks! Look at posts here! He is an ass and abuser and he slept with my sister!
What do you want?
I want him baaaaack!
Curtains!
But WHY do men do it? Contrary to popular beliefs there is a massive difference in what causes men to become cheaters VS women. Men and women think and work differently.
Women become cheaters by becoming corrupted by the external world. Men become cheaters of their own volition.
Women bond because of a chemical released on touch. So basically any man that can manage frequent physical contact even if it is something platonic like hugs or whatever. Can increase his chances of leading a woman astray from her existing lover.
Again, look at the things women are saying here in this topic alone. "I ain't loyal to losers". "I left him because I 'outgrew' him". "I left him because I was bored".
Absolutely disgusting. Case in point those kind of mentalities all point to the same message: I will abandon him if he doesn't stack up.click to expand
Posted by TerramineLightvoidI will love you if I love you sick, poor but not lazy and stupid! Sorry!Posted by MyStarsShine
I never had mindless sex....I was always in rships. I couldn't do the casual thing...I thought sex was too precious to throw around so you judged me wrong there
Lots of women like older men .... Keep yourself fit and healthy, although if you choose to stay alone, that is your choice.
Lmao there it is. Be fit, have money, etc or any woman will abandon you. That isn't love. If you only "love" me because I stack up to your standards.
Go to hell.click to expand
If you don't hear me saying don't call me baby cake- after certain time the one who listens to me will get me away from you.
And that was just a light example you know...
Posted by TerramineLightvoidPosted by MyStarsShine
I never had mindless sex....I was always in rships. I couldn't do the casual thing...I thought sex was too precious to throw around so you judged me wrong there
Lots of women like older men .... Keep yourself fit and healthy, although if you choose to stay alone, that is your choice.
Lmao there it is. Be fit, have money, etc or any woman will abandon you. That isn't love. If you only "love" me because I stack up to your standards.
Go to hell.click to expand
I didn't mention money....health is wealth.....not cash
I went to hell and back again a few times ... so will refrain from a further visit
Good luck
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Posted by TerramineLightvoidPoor darlings! It's us bitches who leave you to raise our kids when you partying your heads off with your stupid friends and it's you who clean our vomit when Thanks God you show up after 4am because some of your friends remember where you live! LolPosted by MyStarsShine
Saying women are the cause of all the heartbreak in the world is very extreme.....and untrue.....lots of men break women's hearts as well as the opposite. Men abuse children and rape and cause trauma to women ... Men start wars
Because men arent nurtured properly and they learn that women are never trult loyal. Loyalty isn't standing by my side when it is convienent for you. Loyalty is when you stick with someone no matter what.
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OMG'
Posted by TerramineLightvoidHonestly? I hope he does! I just don't want him to rot in jail nor I want him to harm man I am in love with.Posted by Gemitati
I will love you if I love you sick, poor but not lazy and stupid! Sorry!
If you don't hear me saying don't call me baby cake- after certain time the one who listens to me will get me away from you.
And that was just a light example you know...
Lmao. That isn't an example at all. Maybe saying it is more for himself than anything. Usually when you love someone you feel compelled by passion to call them something nonplatonic. But it definitely ain't a reason to cheat LMAO
What other... "Reasons" you got? Not that there is any justification for cheating in the first place. You are still depending on that man for a place to live, food, etc.
That is horrible. You need to die tbh. I hope he finds out and kills you for it.
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Also I want to tell you that you are obviously a product of some crappy past.
I have a different upbringing and I am planning on making it all civil and peacefull. Not everyone who are in affair
Is a bad people!
Imagine why is my husband haven't woke up in 8 years and haven't done anything when I told him on day 1st - I am in love with THIS man!
Secure! Lazy! My sterile reputation! I fought for 5 years as my lover did!
Now! Whatever! I am in love...
Posted by TerramineLightvoidYou are sick mother heckler!Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by TerramineLightvoidPosted by MyStarsShine
I never had mindless sex....I was always in rships. I couldn't do the casual thing...I thought sex was too precious to throw around so you judged me wrong there
Lots of women like older men .... Keep yourself fit and healthy, although if you choose to stay alone, that is your choice.
Lmao there it is. Be fit, have money, etc or any woman will abandon you. That isn't love. If you only "love" me because I stack up to your standards.
Go to hell.
I didn't mention money....health is wealth.....not cash
I went to hell and back again a few times ... so will refrain from a further visit
Good luck
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I also said "etc" implying I meant other stuff too that you didn't say.
Requiring a man to be fit or else you will abandon him, is just as bad as being with him only for his money.
It is no better.
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Who said fit! Who cares unless someone has body fetish!
My husband is fat!
I had tried and got h slimmed down by 40lb. He went back and doing nothing!
I nagged my lover to get fit and he is doing it religiously because I said so' and he believing I have his best interests at heart!
I've lost half of me because of him.
He fell for me when I was fat but he was perfect!
You need to get your bra MRI to see what's in there making you such a friggin idiot! Pronto!
Posted by TerramineLightvoidI am younger by 11 years! I had always made more money and we have joint everything. So if I owe h cash - he owes me sex! For 10 users!Posted by GemitatiPosted by TerramineLightvoidHonestly? I hope he does! I just don't want him to rot in jail nor I want him to harm man I am in love with.Posted by Gemitati
I will love you if I love you sick, poor but not lazy and stupid! Sorry!
If you don't hear me saying don't call me baby cake- after certain time the one who listens to me will get me away from you.
And that was just a light example you know...
Lmao. That isn't an example at all. Maybe saying it is more for himself than anything. Usually when you love someone you feel compelled by passion to call them something nonplatonic. But it definitely ain't a reason to cheat LMAO
What other... "Reasons" you got? Not that there is any justification for cheating in the first place. You are still depending on that man for a place to live, food, etc.
That is horrible. You need to die tbh. I hope he finds out and kills you for it.
Also I want to tell you that you are obviously a product of some crappy past.
I have a different upbringing and I am planning on making it all civil and peacefull. Not everyone who are in affair
Is a bad people!
Imagine why is my husband haven't woke up in 8 years and haven't done anything when I told him on day 1st - I am in love with THIS man!
Secure! Lazy! My sterile reputation! I fought for 5 years as my lover did!
Now! Whatever! I am in love...
You used him for 10 years. You owe him financially and in any other way that you STOLE from him for those 10 years.
By "end this peacefully", you mean rob him blind.
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How much do you think I need to charge!
Stick your fingers into electric
Outlet before typing! It'll free us all
From your 'assdom'
Posted by MyStarsShineHow about walking in from a double shift late night to coming home to her naked under the covers and him on floor.Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
Because I walked in on my Aries fucking a girl in our lounge.
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Posted by TerramineLightvoidI am not talking to impotents anymore!Posted by GemitatiPosted by TerramineLightvoidYou are sick mother heckler!Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by TerramineLightvoidPosted by MyStarsShine
I never had mindless sex....I was always in rships. I couldn't do the casual thing...I thought sex was too precious to throw around so you judged me wrong there
Lots of women like older men .... Keep yourself fit and healthy, although if you choose to stay alone, that is your choice.
Lmao there it is. Be fit, have money, etc or any woman will abandon you. That isn't love. If you only "love" me because I stack up to your standards.
Go to hell.
I didn't mention money....health is wealth.....not cash
I went to hell and back again a few times ... so will refrain from a further visit
Good luck
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I also said "etc" implying I meant other stuff too that you didn't say.
Requiring a man to be fit or else you will abandon him, is just as bad as being with him only for his money.
It is no better.
Who said fit! Who cares unless someone has body fetish!
My husband is fat!
I had tried and got h slimmed down by 40lb. He went back and doing nothing!
I nagged my lover to get fit and he is doing it religiously because I said so' and he believing I have his best interests at heart!
I've lost half of me because of him.
He fell for me when I was fat but he was perfect!
You need to get your bra MRI to see what's in there making you such a friggin idiot! Pronto!
An idiot how? You're sending mixed messages here. You say it doesn't matter, but then explain how your husband is fat but your amazing love affair automagically starting getting fit for you?
That just sounds like you're saying it TOTALLY matters.
Also I still say your affair didn't actually do that for he. He is just into working out anyways and he has like 5 other chicks he tells the same stuff to, to get laid.
That is the part of the equation you keep skipping over here. You mean he's been playing you for 10 years LMAO
CAUSE HES A PLAYER. ONLY PLAYERS GET INVOLVED WITY AFFAIRS.click to expand
Be well...
Posted by TerramineLightvoidI am not talking to impotents anymore!Posted by GemitatiPosted by TerramineLightvoidYou are sick mother heckler!Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by TerramineLightvoidPosted by MyStarsShine
I never had mindless sex....I was always in rships. I couldn't do the casual thing...I thought sex was too precious to throw around so you judged me wrong there
Lots of women like older men .... Keep yourself fit and healthy, although if you choose to stay alone, that is your choice.
Lmao there it is. Be fit, have money, etc or any woman will abandon you. That isn't love. If you only "love" me because I stack up to your standards.
Go to hell.
I didn't mention money....health is wealth.....not cash
I went to hell and back again a few times ... so will refrain from a further visit
Good luck
🙂
I also said "etc" implying I meant other stuff too that you didn't say.
Requiring a man to be fit or else you will abandon him, is just as bad as being with him only for his money.
It is no better.
Who said fit! Who cares unless someone has body fetish!
My husband is fat!
I had tried and got h slimmed down by 40lb. He went back and doing nothing!
I nagged my lover to get fit and he is doing it religiously because I said so' and he believing I have his best interests at heart!
I've lost half of me because of him.
He fell for me when I was fat but he was perfect!
You need to get your bra MRI to see what's in there making you such a friggin idiot! Pronto!
An idiot how? You're sending mixed messages here. You say it doesn't matter, but then explain how your husband is fat but your amazing love affair automagically starting getting fit for you?
That just sounds like you're saying it TOTALLY matters.
Also I still say your affair didn't actually do that for he. He is just into working out anyways and he has like 5 other chicks he tells the same stuff to, to get laid.
That is the part of the equation you keep skipping over here. You mean he's been playing you for 10 years LMAO
CAUSE HES A PLAYER. ONLY PLAYERS GET INVOLVED WITY AFFAIRS.click to expand
Be well...
Posted by SweetLily89Exactly right! And if you got it - there is no way back or aside! It's what it is! You submerging into it and suffocating until it's certain that both parties on the same page!Posted by TerramineLightvoidJumping the gun a bit. I won't deny that you have made some points. Much of it would depend on how one defines LOVE. To me True LOVE is unconditional. Too often do I see people claiming to truly love someone, but their love is laced with conditions. I love you so long as you do, this, that and the other thing, as long as you make me happy, as long as you STAY... As you had put it, being of service to you.Posted by SweetLily89Posted by TerramineLightvoidWhatever you say dear.. We are ever changing and sometimes people grow in different directions. Not to mention, you know nothing of the circumstances I was faced with, I merely answered the question. I don't feel it necessary to go into detail. I leave when my only option is to end it or stay and be in an unhappy situation. It doesn't mean that the love isn't still present, just that I am making the healthiest decision for myself overall. Try as you may, but there is nothing wrong with that.Posted by SweetLily89
Simply put, when I've out grown him.
I certainly don't give up without trying, but when he's not growing and isn't interested in putting in the work to keep the relationship going with me, it's no longer worth the investment.
This really doesn't make sense. It isn't about Growth. It is about what is NECESSARY and growth isn't just some "always inherently necessary" thing.
Growth is only relevant/important when there is Conflict. Otherwise love isn't about a person servicing you in some way.
Yes there is if it isn't the other person's fault. Which it is only the other persons fault if they are doing something wrong theirself.
Anything else like them not "satisfying" you is most definitely not wrong on their part. If you can't accept someone at their worst, you don't deserve them at their best.
You don't deserve someone who fits your standards if you are only with them BECAUSE they fit your standards. At that point you are just deceptively tricking them to be with someone who doesn't deserve them.
True love is loving just for the sake of loving. Love doesn't expect anything in return and sometimes Loving means not having those same depths reciprocated. Something that I've learned the hard way, but I still love and it will not change. I am not blind to my own imperfections and it's not in my place to look down on someone else for theirs. When I love, I accept someone as a whole. The good, the bad and the ugly.click to expand
Shitty thing if both are already committed!
That's when it becomes a mortal sin!
However we are sinful mortals and some faithful to their spouses do worse!
But no one knows what they are doing until they are in a court room!
Posted by TerramineLightvoidYou are a moron! I don't care! I love him and that's that!Posted by GemitatiPosted by TerramineLightvoidI am not talking to impotents anymore!Posted by GemitatiPosted by TerramineLightvoidYou are sick mother heckler!Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by TerramineLightvoidPosted by MyStarsShine
I never had mindless sex....I was always in rships. I couldn't do the casual thing...I thought sex was too precious to throw around so you judged me wrong there
Lots of women like older men .... Keep yourself fit and healthy, although if you choose to stay alone, that is your choice.
Lmao there it is. Be fit, have money, etc or any woman will abandon you. That isn't love. If you only "love" me because I stack up to your standards.
Go to hell.
I didn't mention money....health is wealth.....not cash
I went to hell and back again a few times ... so will refrain from a further visit
Good luck
🙂
I also said "etc" implying I meant other stuff too that you didn't say.
Requiring a man to be fit or else you will abandon him, is just as bad as being with him only for his money.
It is no better.
Who said fit! Who cares unless someone has body fetish!
My husband is fat!
I had tried and got h slimmed down by 40lb. He went back and doing nothing!
I nagged my lover to get fit and he is doing it religiously because I said so' and he believing I have his best interests at heart!
I've lost half of me because of him.
He fell for me when I was fat but he was perfect!
You need to get your bra MRI to see what's in there making you such a friggin idiot! Pronto!
An idiot how? You're sending mixed messages here. You say it doesn't matter, but then explain how your husband is fat but your amazing love affair automagically starting getting fit for you?
That just sounds like you're saying it TOTALLY matters.
Also I still say your affair didn't actually do that for you. He is just into working out anyways and he has like 5 other chicks he tells the same stuff to, to get laid.
That is the part of the equation you keep skipping over here. You mean he's been playing you for 10 years LMAO
CAUSE HES A PLAYER. ONLY PLAYERS GET INVOLVED WITH AFFAIRS.
Be well...
Your affair doesn't love you. He's got 10 other chicks.
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Go jerk off or something! Too tense. Or can't find your genitalias? I don't care about your issues. One more escapade like this and you are blocked jerk!
Posted by TerramineLightvoidHHahahahahahaPosted by aquarius_beauty
Exactly a man who has no ambitions or aspirations is such a huge turn off for me.
You guys are missing the point here. I ain't saying any of this because I lack any of the things I talk about.
I am fit, I work out like it is a passion. I have nothing but ambition, aspiration, etc. I am strong and dominant, etc.
AS a hot fit guy with ambition, I'm telling you what concerns a hot fit guy with ambition. You guys idealize us, so you forget that we are even people. It is like you think we have no thoughts and feelings of our own.
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Posted by IamasagWas she Italian? Like Catholic! I don't think so.Posted by GemitatiPosted by TerramineLightvoidI am not talking to impotents anymore!Posted by GemitatiPosted by TerramineLightvoidYou are sick mother heckler!Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by TerramineLightvoidPosted by MyStarsShine
I never had mindless sex....I was always in rships. I couldn't do the casual thing...I thought sex was too precious to throw around so you judged me wrong there
Lots of women like older men .... Keep yourself fit and healthy, although if you choose to stay alone, that is your choice.
Lmao there it is. Be fit, have money, etc or any woman will abandon you. That isn't love. If you only "love" me because I stack up to your standards.
Go to hell.
I didn't mention money....health is wealth.....not cash
I went to hell and back again a few times ... so will refrain from a further visit
Good luck
🙂
I also said "etc" implying I meant other stuff too that you didn't say.
Requiring a man to be fit or else you will abandon him, is just as bad as being with him only for his money.
It is no better.
Who said fit! Who cares unless someone has body fetish!
My husband is fat!
I had tried and got h slimmed down by 40lb. He went back and doing nothing!
I nagged my lover to get fit and he is doing it religiously because I said so' and he believing I have his best interests at heart!
I've lost half of me because of him.
He fell for me when I was fat but he was perfect!
You need to get your bra MRI to see what's in there making you such a friggin idiot! Pronto!
An idiot how? You're sending mixed messages here. You say it doesn't matter, but then explain how your husband is fat but your amazing love affair automagically starting getting fit for you?
That just sounds like you're saying it TOTALLY matters.
Also I still say your affair didn't actually do that for he. He is just into working out anyways and he has like 5 other chicks he tells the same stuff to, to get laid.
That is the part of the equation you keep skipping over here. You mean he's been playing you for 10 years LMAO
CAUSE HES A PLAYER. ONLY PLAYERS GET INVOLVED WITY AFFAIRS.
Be well...
I once knew a Tatiana, she wanted me to fuck her dead mother back to life.
Most unusual experience but hey, when in Rome,
Have pizza ?
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It's kind of...I can't find the word...help me
Posted by TerramineLightvoidAnd you little shit have a nerve to judge ME - woman who is married forPosted by SweetLily89
Jumping the gun a bit. I won't deny that you have made some points. Much of it would depend on how one defines LOVE. To me True LOVE is unconditional. Too often do I see people claiming to truly love someone, but their love is laced with conditions. I love you so long as you do, this, that and the other thing, as long as you make me happy, as long as you STAY... As you had put it, being of service to you.
True love is loving just for the sake of loving. Love doesn't expect anything in return and sometimes Loving means not having those same depths reciprocated. Something that I've learned the hard way, but I still love and it will not change. I am not blind to my own imperfections and it's not in my place to look down on someone else for theirs. When I love, I accept someone as a whole. The good, the bad and the ugly.
You have a point about staying. Technically loyalty itself is contradictingly a standard that I have. But it is kinda out of self-preservation you know? If I didn't draw the line somewhere. My love for a person WOULD KILL ME.
That's exactly the situation I'm dealing with. I love somebody who abandoned me, I love only them, and I know that isn't going to change.
But simultaneously I am not a person who believes one is able to live without love. I know I NEED love. I need somebody to be with. I cannot accept the lonely life. I would rather die.
But I know that person already gave themself to someone else. So even if they came back later down the road. Any sense of self esteem I had will be completely destroyed. I will never be able to think I deserve them because somebody else deserved them before I ever did.
She was a virgin when I met her, and it isn't the fact that I need my lover to be a virgin when we meet. But she was with me, and then she left before I ever even got to meet her in person. I didn't get to hold her. I didn't get to kiss her. I didn't get to make love with her. All we ever did was talk and get to know each other. Which is why I love her. I was RIGHT THERE. In front of her. Yet she gave herself away to someone else instead /before/ me. So how could I ever deserve her now?
So I am stuck. If she doesn't come back, I won't ever get to have love. Which I would prefer death, and will be forced into killing myself eventually if not now. But then even if she does come back, she aint gonna do what is necessary to make everything right. So it will just end with her leaving again, and then I will kill myself.
Either way the odds are impossibly against me. But especially if I DON'T uphold a standard for loyalty. Cause it isn't that I can't forgive her. It is that I could never forgive myself.click to expand
23 years raised a person your age, paid mortgage on house, lived life...
What DO you know except jerking off
to an image of a woman you had never seen in person?
Get medical help! You are insane and I am blocking you because you are toxic and have no rights to speak! Hope you will get help! So long.
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Horrible picture but why?Posted by MyStarsShineHow about walking in from a double shift late night to coming home to her naked under the covers and him on floor.Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
Because I walked in on my Aries fucking a girl in our lounge.
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What happened? Have you never suspected? And just boom'
Posted by aquarius_beauty...and what if he walking behind you and calling you sweet names and grabbing your butt while not even thinking of putting plates on the table while you are making dinner after just coming from work while he was playing on computer?Posted by pinkbird03Exactly a man who has no ambitions or aspirations is such a huge turn off for me.
What does loyalty have to do with it? I'm a successful woman. I don't want a loser who does very little with his life and has no ambition.
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Posted by TerramineLightvoidYour rhetoric seems biased to say the least. You make these broad generalized statements as if all women are incapable of showing true loyalty, and that they are purely the sole reason that men become corrupt. It is blatantly obvious that you are making these statements based off of your own life experiences. Your statements are obnoxious to say the least.
Because men arent nurtured properly and they learn that women are never truly loyal. Loyalty isn't standing by my side when it is convienent for you. Loyalty is when you stick with someone no matter what.
Love is when someone is more important than yourself.
Yes, there are grotesque women out there that have zero redeeming qualities, but there are in fact, a multitude of men out there as well with this very same trait. It's a vicious never ending cycle, with one asshole turning a woman into a bitch, and one bitch turning a man into an asshole. It's the perpetual condemnation of the person that just so happens to be the unlucky individual that came after the asshole or bitch, that keeps this abhorrent behavior going.
At what point is a person allowed to not be loyal to someone "no matter what", without being vilified by you? And I am not even talking about the superficial bullshit. By your logic, I should have stayed with my ex because I should remain 100% loyal to him because I loved him. That means I should have continued to pay all his bills and let him sit at home, do all his errands, cook and clean for him, essentially wipe his ass day in and day out, as he continued to fuck other bitches. Or even better stayed with him since he "stopped" cheating on me. And by stop, I mean he would break up with me right before bringing the other girl over to our place to fuck, and then getting back with me right after. Rinse and repeat for 5 years.
So I say, fuck your definition of loyalty and your biased view on the world and women. It doesn't matter what gender you are, female or male, anyone can be an asshole.
Ok I see PootyButt reply but I don't see it!
Hey! In not ignoring you...lol
Hey! In not ignoring you...lol
Posted by GemitatiI'm confused...Posted by TerramineLightvoidHahahahahahaha!Posted by pinkbird03
I broke up with a guy because there was no romantic spark and I didn't see a future with him. I don't think he was going far in life.
Right because love is going for an upgrade LOLOLOL
I swear. This attitude right here. This is why men are playas. Caused women don't know what loyalty is from the get go. Herpderp.
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I thought you created this thread to help people understand why people end relationships, which generally leave the person left, devastated.
And yet, here you are Gemitati, making a mockery out of it...
"This is exactly why women are the true cause of all the heartbreak in the world. Sure men become players. But it is only because of this shit. Because women don't naturally have loyalty in them."
@TerramineLightvoid
You're generalizing. That's bitterness talking. There are just as many men who are not capable of loyalty.
Posted by LiveAndLoveAnd THAT is all that really matters! Hugs! I'm so glad to hear you're working to heal yourself from all of that!!!Posted by GemitatiWell, cheating is obvious but cheating is happening in a relationship due to other problems which could be so many different things. Boredom, fighting a lot for whatever reasons since there's a million, loneliness, spitefulness, I don't know. I've never cheated but I have been cheated on. It really is gutting to be faithful and have someone you give your whole self to, to turn around and betray you in that way.
This place is flooded with dumped crying people and I have just decided to ask those who had dumped someone after sexy on first date or a year after...
For any reason...
Can you tell the story of why have you dumped your partner. I guess cheating is the only one don't need to be included because it's too obvious.
I've only broken up with someone I thought I loved because he did that among a bunch of other really terrible things. And some people on here, if they see me talk about my Scorp ex a lot (which I do want to stop lol) will know he was abusive and I had to get out with my kids and find a better life.
But I haven't even said some of the worst things he's done that I'm still in therapy for. So I "dumped" him to keep myself and children safe. And we are now, which is all that really matters 🙂
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@TerramineLightvoid
You clearly have a very, dark, cloud hanging over you and it makes me incredibly sad because you're only 23.
The hurts we experience along our journeys don't go away unless we take them as lessons and learn from them. Otherwise, it's just angry, bitterness. That's no way to live.
People can be very disappointing.
If you focus all your energy on the worst of what has happened to you... You'll miss out on that warm, loving, giving person who is looking for the same thing that you are. Who fits you like a puzzle piece.
My wish for you is to forgive and move on.
You clearly have a very, dark, cloud hanging over you and it makes me incredibly sad because you're only 23.
The hurts we experience along our journeys don't go away unless we take them as lessons and learn from them. Otherwise, it's just angry, bitterness. That's no way to live.
People can be very disappointing.
If you focus all your energy on the worst of what has happened to you... You'll miss out on that warm, loving, giving person who is looking for the same thing that you are. Who fits you like a puzzle piece.
My wish for you is to forgive and move on.
Posted by PootyButtNOW I see what's wrong with Nikki!Posted by nikkistarThis guy sounds soooo familiar. I wonder if he's a former poster I argued with under a new name or if he's just vomiting the same rhetoric.Posted by TerramineLightvoidYour rhetoric seems biased to say the least. You make these broad generalized statements as if all women are incapable of showing true loyalty, and that they are purely the sole reason that men become corrupt. It is blatantly obvious that you are making these statements based off of your own life experiences. Your statements are obnoxious to say the least.
Because men arent nurtured properly and they learn that women are never truly loyal. Loyalty isn't standing by my side when it is convienent for you. Loyalty is when you stick with someone no matter what.
Love is when someone is more important than yourself.
Yes, there are grotesque women out there that have zero redeeming qualities, but there are in fact, a multitude of men out there as well with this very same trait. It's a vicious never ending cycle, with one asshole turning a woman into a bitch, and one bitch turning a man into an asshole. It's the perpetual condemnation of the person that just so happens to be the unlucky individual that came after the asshole or bitch, that keeps this abhorrent behavior going.
At what point is a person allowed to not be loyal to someone "no matter what", without being vilified by you? And I am not even talking about the superficial bullshit. By your logic, I should have stayed with my ex because I should remain 100% loyal to him because I loved him. That means I should have continued to pay all his bills and let him sit at home, do all his errands, cook and clean for him, essentially wipe his ass day in and day out, as he continued to fuck other bitches. Or even better stayed with him since he "stopped" cheating on me. And by stop, I mean he would break up with me right before bringing the other girl over to our place to fuck, and then getting back with me right after. Rinse and repeat for 5 years.
So I say, fuck your definition of loyalty and your biased view on the world and women. It doesn't matter what gender you are, female or male, anyone can be an asshole.click to expand
Too bad but it doesn't mean you have to be so bitter so vinegar coming out of your ears!
Posted by SweetLily89YES! ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!Posted by TerramineLightvoidYour thinking is limiting. You won't find love, if your mind is set on never finding it again. You're setting yourself up for failure that way.Posted by SweetLily89
Jumping the gun a bit. I won't deny that you have made some points. Much of it would depend on how one defines LOVE. To me True LOVE is unconditional. Too often do I see people claiming to truly love someone, but their love is laced with conditions. I love you so long as you do, this, that and the other thing, as long as you make me happy, as long as you STAY... As you had put it, being of service to you.
True love is loving just for the sake of loving. Love doesn't expect anything in return and sometimes Loving means not having those same depths reciprocated. Something that I've learned the hard way, but I still love and it will not change. I am not blind to my own imperfections and it's not in my place to look down on someone else for theirs. When I love, I accept someone as a whole. The good, the bad and the ugly.
You have a point about staying. Technically loyalty itself is contradictingly a standard that I have. But it is kinda out of self-preservation you know? If I didn't draw the line somewhere. My love for a person WOULD KILL ME.
That's exactly the situation I'm dealing with. I love somebody who abandoned me, I love only them, and I know that isn't going to change.
But simultaneously I am not a person who believes one is able to live without love. I know I NEED love. I need somebody to be with. I cannot accept the lonely life. I would rather die.
But I know that person already gave themself to someone else. So even if they came back later down the road. Any sense of self esteem I had will be completely destroyed. I will never be able to think I deserve them because somebody else deserved them before I ever did.
She was a virgin when I met her, and it isn't the fact that I need my lover to be a virgin when we meet. But she was with me, and then she left before I ever even got to meet her in person. I didn't get to hold her. I didn't get to kiss her. I didn't get to make love with her. All we ever did was talk and get to know each other. Which is why I love her. I was RIGHT THERE. In front of her. Yet she gave herself away to someone else instead /before/ me. So how could I ever deserve her now?
So I am stuck. If she doesn't come back, I won't ever get to have love. Which I would prefer death, and will be forced into killing myself eventually if not now. But then even if she does come back, she aint gonna do what is necessary to make everything right. So it will just end with her leaving again, and then I will kill myself.
Either way the odds are impossibly against me. But especially if I DON'T uphold a standard for loyalty. Cause it isn't that I can't forgive her. It is that I could never forgive myself.
This is something that I struggle with myself. It's fear of losing it that troubles me most, but alas love means taking a risk. Sick part is that we are not built to live forever and said love must come to an end regardless, unless of course you take the more spiritual route.
Take this as time to get back to yourself. Unrequited love stings like a mother, trust me I know, but all hope is not lost just because, things didn't work out as you had in mind. Sometimes loving means letting them go. As you said, it's putting someone else above yourself. It's painful, not being able to be a part of their happiness, but isn't it more important that they are happy?.. Don't take it as a personal attack on you and it certainly doesn't mean you're unworthy in any way. Everyone deserves love. Think of it as, this person paving the way for a more authentic love. Though my pessimistic tendencies get the best of me from time to time, the romantic in me still lives. Barely, I might add lol, but just enough to remain hopeful. You need time to heal and maybe then you might change your tune.
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Posted by TerramineLightvoidSomeone who fits you like a puzzle piece, in my opinion, is someone who meshes with what and who you are. Your values, ideals, beliefs and commonalities. Love is always a risk. You're giving yourself to someone unconditionally with the hope and belief that they will value you as much.Posted by Walkergrl
@TerramineLightvoid
You clearly have a very, dark, cloud hanging over you and it makes me incredibly sad because you're only 23.
The hurts we experience along our journeys don't go away unless we take them as lessons and learn from them. Otherwise, it's just angry, bitterness. That's no way to live.
People can be very disappointing.
If you focus all your energy on the worst of what has happened to you... You'll miss out on that warm, loving, giving person who is looking for the same thing that you are. Who fits you like a puzzle piece.
My wish for you is to forgive and move on.
I don't want someone who fits me like a puzzle piece. That just means yet again that they love me because I just happen to be what they want. If I was any different, they wouldn't want to be with me.
I've conquered severe depression, I've overcome severe physical and mental abuse and being molested as a child. All that is nothing to me. But the higher you climb, the harder you fall when you do.
Love is the only thing that makes me fall apart.click to expand
In some cases they do, and others they don't.
That's what I belive is the glue that keeps long term relationships together. They VALUE each other.
Posted by TerramineLightvoidYou're a young pup. I don't discount your feelings, however, you've got your heels dug in deep with a relentless bitterness.Posted by WalkergrlPosted by TerramineLightvoidSomeone who fits you like a puzzle piece, in my opinion, is someone who meshes with what and who you are. Your values, ideals, beliefs and commonalities. Love is always a risk. You're giving yourself to someone unconditionally with the hope and belief that they will value you as much.Posted by Walkergrl
@TerramineLightvoid
You clearly have a very, dark, cloud hanging over you and it makes me incredibly sad because you're only 23.
The hurts we experience along our journeys don't go away unless we take them as lessons and learn from them. Otherwise, it's just angry, bitterness. That's no way to live.
People can be very disappointing.
If you focus all your energy on the worst of what has happened to you... You'll miss out on that warm, loving, giving person who is looking for the same thing that you are. Who fits you like a puzzle piece.
My wish for you is to forgive and move on.
I don't want someone who fits me like a puzzle piece. That just means yet again that they love me because I just happen to be what they want. If I was any different, they wouldn't want to be with me.
I've conquered severe depression, I've overcome severe physical and mental abuse and being molested as a child. All that is nothing to me. But the higher you climb, the harder you fall when you do.
Love is the only thing that makes me fall apart.
In some cases they do, and others they don't.
That's what I belive is the glue that keeps long term relationships together. They VALUE each other.
When you love someone. None of that matters. You don't have to agree, you don't have to be the same, you don't have to mesh. Love is a force strong enough to unify even opposites.click to expand
I've read the emotional, physical and mental abuse you've endured. I hear you.
You don't think we all have our own stories?
Buckle up, Buttercup. You've got a long road ahead of you.
Therapy is a great place to begin.
Posted by PootyButtI wish I knew where you coming from cupcake!Posted by GemitatiDo what, love?Posted by PootyButtNOW I see what's wrong with Nikki!Posted by nikkistarThis guy sounds soooo familiar. I wonder if he's a former poster I argued with under a new name or if he's just vomiting the same rhetoric.Posted by TerramineLightvoidYour rhetoric seems biased to say the least. You make these broad generalized statements as if all women are incapable of showing true loyalty, and that they are purely the sole reason that men become corrupt. It is blatantly obvious that you are making these statements based off of your own life experiences. Your statements are obnoxious to say the least.
Because men arent nurtured properly and they learn that women are never truly loyal. Loyalty isn't standing by my side when it is convienent for you. Loyalty is when you stick with someone no matter what.
Love is when someone is more important than yourself.
Yes, there are grotesque women out there that have zero redeeming qualities, but there are in fact, a multitude of men out there as well with this very same trait. It's a vicious never ending cycle, with one asshole turning a woman into a bitch, and one bitch turning a man into an asshole. It's the perpetual condemnation of the person that just so happens to be the unlucky individual that came after the asshole or bitch, that keeps this abhorrent behavior going.
At what point is a person allowed to not be loyal to someone "no matter what", without being vilified by you? And I am not even talking about the superficial bullshit. By your logic, I should have stayed with my ex because I should remain 100% loyal to him because I loved him. That means I should have continued to pay all his bills and let him sit at home, do all his errands, cook and clean for him, essentially wipe his ass day in and day out, as he continued to fuck other bitches. Or even better stayed with him since he "stopped" cheating on me. And by stop, I mean he would break up with me right before bringing the other girl over to our place to fuck, and then getting back with me right after. Rinse and repeat for 5 years.
So I say, fuck your definition of loyalty and your biased view on the world and women. It doesn't matter what gender you are, female or male, anyone can be an asshole.
Too bad but it doesn't mean you have to be so bitter so vinegar coming out of your ears!
Some of the Terramine guy's phrasing reminds me of a poster who posted a Youtube video reply of himself. He could barely contain his rage at all of us bitches. It was a little skeery.click to expand
Posted by SweetLily89Just held myself but can't.Posted by TerramineLightvoidYour thinking is limiting. You won't find love, if your mind is set on never finding it again. You're setting yourself up for failure that way.Posted by SweetLily89
Jumping the gun a bit. I won't deny that you have made some points. Much of it would depend on how one defines LOVE. To me True LOVE is unconditional. Too often do I see people claiming to truly love someone, but their love is laced with conditions. I love you so long as you do, this, that and the other thing, as long as you make me happy, as long as you STAY... As you had put it, being of service to you.
True love is loving just for the sake of loving. Love doesn't expect anything in return and sometimes Loving means not having those same depths reciprocated. Something that I've learned the hard way, but I still love and it will not change. I am not blind to my own imperfections and it's not in my place to look down on someone else for theirs. When I love, I accept someone as a whole. The good, the bad and the ugly.
You have a point about staying. Technically loyalty itself is contradictingly a standard that I have. But it is kinda out of self-preservation you know? If I didn't draw the line somewhere. My love for a person WOULD KILL ME.
That's exactly the situation I'm dealing with. I love somebody who abandoned me, I love only them, and I know that isn't going to change.
But simultaneously I am not a person who believes one is able to live without love. I know I NEED love. I need somebody to be with. I cannot accept the lonely life. I would rather die.
But I know that person already gave themself to someone else. So even if they came back later down the road. Any sense of self esteem I had will be completely destroyed. I will never be able to think I deserve them because somebody else deserved them before I ever did.
She was a virgin when I met her, and it isn't the fact that I need my lover to be a virgin when we meet. But she was with me, and then she left before I ever even got to meet her in person. I didn't get to hold her. I didn't get to kiss her. I didn't get to make love with her. All we ever did was talk and get to know each other. Which is why I love her. I was RIGHT THERE. In front of her. Yet she gave herself away to someone else instead /before/ me. So how could I ever deserve her now?
So I am stuck. If she doesn't come back, I won't ever get to have love. Which I would prefer death, and will be forced into killing myself eventually if not now. But then even if she does come back, she aint gonna do what is necessary to make everything right. So it will just end with her leaving again, and then I will kill myself.
Either way the odds are impossibly against me. But especially if I DON'T uphold a standard for loyalty. Cause it isn't that I can't forgive her. It is that I could never forgive myself.
This is something that I struggle with myself. It's fear of losing it that troubles me most, but alas love means taking a risk. Sick part is that we are not built to live forever and said love must come to an end regardless, unless of course you take the more spiritual route.
Take this as time to get back to yourself. Unrequited love stings like a mother, trust me I know, but all hope is not lost just because, things didn't work out as you had in mind. Sometimes loving means letting them go. As you said, it's putting someone else above yourself. It's painful, not being able to be a part of their happiness, but isn't it more important that they are happy?.. Don't take it as a personal attack on you and it certainly doesn't mean you're unworthy in any way. Everyone deserves love. Think of it as, this person paving the way for a more authentic love. Though my pessimistic tendencies get the best of me from time to time, the romantic in me still lives. Barely, I might add lol, but just enough to remain hopeful. You need time to heal and maybe then you might change your tune.
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Everyone DESERVES love?
How did you came up with this?
Is it a law?
Every ONE
DESERVES... By doing what?
Maybe some people deserve soul search but they dont searching?
What does word DESERVE means?
Ever thought before writing?
Posted by TerramineLightvoidThis I can understand more. And since I have read a few of your other posts in other threads, I know where this stems from for you.
Everything I've said thus far is based upon INNOCENCE. I have been talking about, specifically, when the person being left behind hasn't done anything morally wrong.
Posted by TerramineLightvoid
Otherwise, as far as that other shit you are bitching about goes. Why not? Why did you do all that stuff for that guy if it mattered to you? Would you be bitching about it if he didn't cheat on you? Why?
Yes I would have ultimately bitched about it, regardless of the cheating. The cheating aspect was the least of his abhorrent traits. At the end of the day, a relationship should be a partnership between two individuals. Will it be equally 50/50, no. But I believe male and females should actively participate. His alcoholism, lack of sustaining gainful employment, and his belief that I should solely take financial responsibility would have eventually been too much.
Posted by TerramineLightvoidThis seems melodramatic, but understandable.
Personally. I don't even want to live if nobody loves me. Little alone want to pursue my goals and ambitions. Little alone want to spend my days in and out being a mindless robot working some 9 to 5 job.
I can do all of that. But not without love and support from somebody.
Posted by TerramineLightvoidTrue and not true. There are many that fail to understand this, but also a vast majority that do. I am going to say that your age contributes a lot to your generalized statements. I do believe you are intelligent, and well read, but I also see a naivety in your statements. That, or you have not been around enough of the right people.
Anyways the reason I spoke broadly is because my understanding of why it happens boils down to the very nature of women. Nor is my perspective as one sided as you think. I know most men are players, regardless of why. Fact is, if I have a hot beautiful lover. Other men are GOING to try to seduce her given enough exposure.
Most women never want to acknowledge this reality. If you even so much as bring it up they will distance themselves from you. Contradictingly. While they try to claim they are loyal to you. Merely voicing concern about it, often pushes them closer to it. I don't understand why, but it usually does.
Even when it doesn't. They are inexplicably stubborn about it and don't want to believe it. They want to see good intentions in everybody even tho 99% of all men don't care if they destroy other people's relationships if it means /they/ get laid.
Posted by TerramineLightvoidThere are those women that actively hate being touched, hugged, or shown affection by anyone other than their significant other. I am one of those. I don't like ANYONE, this also is applicable to my mom, into my space unless I want them too. And there are also women that have been privy to this game, and can spot the douche bags from a mile away. But, there are also a ton of idiot women as well that justify everything as well. So I do agree to an extent, with you.
Now on top of this is that women are biologically hardwired to release Oxytocin on touch. Which is a "bonding chemical". Which means that women /attach/ to someone based on physical touch. So the more physical access a guy has, even if it is purely platonic. Greatly heightens their chances of leading a woman away from her current lover.
Ultimately what I've been trying to say is. Men cheat simply because they are selfish heartless pigs. But women cheat specifically because even when they TRY to be loyal. Everything in their own nature works against them as a player works his ways on them.
I know how other men think and work because I am a man. I know how players work. I know what it takes to become one. Men become like that because they don't know any other way to reconcile what I'm talking about. You either are the guy who futilely tries to keep a woman loyal, or you become the playa. Those are the only real choices we men got.
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In my last relationship I ended it because I felt like he was holding me back from doing what I wanted to do by being so needy and guilt tripping me for not being there for him all the time.
Posted by TerramineLightvoid
Lmao what? There is nothing worse than cheating except murder. Rape is pretty bad but I largely perceive that as purely physical violation. Not that it doesn't mess with you mentally. But cheating attacks the soul itself directly and with full focus.
Of course it also varies with cheating more so. It might not hurt the other person at all because they don't care about the person. But you could apply that to any bad thing ever. Point is that when it DOES hurt the other person. It tears their very soul apart.
No offense but. Just hearing you say that when the worst you've mentioned is alcoholism and not contributing financially. Tells me that I shouldn't even remotely listen to you when you try to convince me I ain't spot on about women.
Because here you are a woman, already proving yourself to be explicitly suspect in the exact regard at hand.
I just realized I didn't include his most fatal flaw. He believed in teaching me "lessons", with his fists. So yes, there are traits worse then cheating. And that is the trait that I found more abhorrent then the cheating.
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Not really. At least I cannot possibly fathom why it should be a requisite. If you love this person, you can't fathomably abandon them unless they wrong you. Otherwise you never loved them and honestly, that means you wasted some of their time/life.
Ultimately this is why relationships don't work very often in the modern world. Because the love is almost always not real.
A healthy relationship isn't one person putting more work in. One person should not be given the job of loving enough for both people. It becomes too lopsided in power, and ultimately leads to toxicity. This I say from my experience with two past relationships where I believed that I could love more for the both of us. Which results in the partner ultimately losing respect on some level. Human nature is gory and grotesque.
Posted by TerramineLightvoid
Honestly I'm not one to believe in reasons for cheating. There is no justification. But I just cannot see how you can say he should have even been with you in the first place when you didn't just simply want him, for him. It was inevitably doomed just from that fact alone.
I honestly have no idea what you are trying to say here.
Posted by TerramineLightvoid
I honestly can't say I know his intentions. But I can say that if he even remotely sensed that about you. That you were judging him, or essentially holding him up to some standard. Then he most likely did it out of insecurity knowing what you guys had was doomed anyways. Not because he couldn't work a job as is. But if for whatever reason he couldn't. You would abandon him then and there. Because he is no longer good enough.
Don't assume things. We made the decision as a couple for him to quit working, and go back to school. He dropped out, and never went back. I never judged him, in all the shit he did. I didn't abandon him until he smacked me around for the last time.
Posted by TerramineLightvoid
I have never cheated and I never will so maybe I'm just a stupid inexperienced young guy. Maybe I'm naive like you're saying. Either way I can tell you. This is all wrong at the end of the day. You'll never succeed at this game called "love" like this.
I mean this in the least condescending way possible, but you really are very young. Most of your statements lack any real experience in life, and it shows by your responses. I remember being your age, and thinking I knew the world. Fast forward more than a decade later, and I realize now that I knew really nothing, and I still don't. That doesn't mean I believe you will cheat, actually, you probably will never cheat. But your generalized statements lack any real experience behind them, but mostly rely on scientific documentation and statements.
Posted by TerramineLightvoid
It is too weak and proves my point about women. Men are taught to be strong no matter what and to rely on themselves and that it isn't okay for us to run when the going gets tough. Whereas women are taught that they are allowed to run from things cause they are fragile. This double standard further cultivates women to abandon us when push comes to shove.
I agree with this statement, when it comes to American culture. However, I do not agree with this comment when it comes to many other cultures. Cause I can tell you, I was taught being fragile, and showing emotions was a sign of weakness. That a person should solely rely on themselves to achieve what they wanted in life. That failure was not an option. There are MANY Asian cultures that teach this.
Posted by TerramineLightvoid
If someone cares about you, they would most likely want to take care of you anyways. But this... The "Game" of love. Cant possibly work like this. It is doomed from the onset. Just waiting to be torn apart by unforseen circumstances.
You're free to play it however you want. Personally. I'd rather go all in, high stakes, and focus on the greatest prize possible. Because risk is worth it, and any less in comparison isn't. I just want a woman who loves me for me, and I will love her for all that she is forever.
Everyone starts life believing this.
Posted by TerramineLightvoid
But women are their own worse enemy. They develop biologically and socially almost twice as fast as men. But they develop morally, spiritually, and rationally like half the speed men do.
Says who? I admit there are a lot of women I have been privy too that have a strong case of "girl logic", but I also think this differs depending on culture, and how one is raised.
Posted by TerramineLightvoidWho says I am blocked from knowing what love is? Don't assume that I don't.
I'm sorry if it doesn't seem that way. I'm also sorry your ex was a piece of shit to you. I'm sorry he blocked you from seeing what love is really about. I can't really blame you tbh.click to expand
realized that i wasn't in love
That'd be an OBGYN, @Gemitati. Your illiteracy is astounding.
Posted by nikkistarThis douche is just an Elliot Rodger copy cat, fyi. This is his shtick on DXP.Posted by TerramineLightvoidYour rhetoric seems biased to say the least. You make these broad generalized statements as if all women are incapable of showing true loyalty, and that they are purely the sole reason that men become corrupt. It is blatantly obvious that you are making these statements based off of your own life experiences. Your statements are obnoxious to say the least.
Because men arent nurtured properly and they learn that women are never truly loyal. Loyalty isn't standing by my side when it is convienent for you. Loyalty is when you stick with someone no matter what.
Love is when someone is more important than yourself.
Yes, there are grotesque women out there that have zero redeeming qualities, but there are in fact, a multitude of men out there as well with this very same trait. It's a vicious never ending cycle, with one asshole turning a woman into a bitch, and one bitch turning a man into an asshole. It's the perpetual condemnation of the person that just so happens to be the unlucky individual that came after the asshole or bitch, that keeps this abhorrent behavior going.
At what point is a person allowed to not be loyal to someone "no matter what", without being vilified by you? And I am not even talking about the superficial bullshit. By your logic, I should have stayed with my ex because I should remain 100% loyal to him because I loved him. That means I should have continued to pay all his bills and let him sit at home, do all his errands, cook and clean for him, essentially wipe his ass day in and day out, as he continued to fuck other bitches. Or even better stayed with him since he "stopped" cheating on me. And by stop, I mean he would break up with me right before bringing the other girl over to our place to fuck, and then getting back with me right after. Rinse and repeat for 5 years.
So I say, fuck your definition of loyalty and your biased view on the world and women. It doesn't matter what gender you are, female or male, anyone can be an asshole.click to expand
Abandonment issues are serious but get worse if they are ignored
Posted by PootyButtIt would be cheesy if you said I will survive! LolPosted by tizianiThat's interesting! I should read up on the archetype. I always thought of Artemis as virginal, not needing a partner. I'm neither a leader or a follower, but an independent, and when it comes to the man I love, I see him as equal, but I'm more comfortable with letting him go first. I guess I'm driven, but a driven B type personality. I want to change the world through art and communication, not fighting. I definitely need a partner to feel ideal. I have a lot of love to give. Jesus, that was cheesy.Posted by PootyButtOk. Personally I cannot relate but I have read something similar to what you've written here in the Artemis archetype. It's pretty much a core need for Artemis that she's with a partner who is supportive of her need to better the world as a minimum, and ideal if her partner can match that core need with similar values in their own life.Posted by tizianiI can't speak for her, but I can speak to what I mean when lack of ambition is a problem. It's a lack of wanting to better oneself, the relationship, the planet, in general. I want to enjoy life, but I also want to make a mark. It's just part of who I am, and I need someone who understands that and is either doing the same or emotionally supporting me in doing it. For me, it's not about drive to make money. It's about drive to make the world a better place and to see me thrive. If he's not interested in seeing my thrive, he doesn't love me for me. He loves having a companion.Posted by aquarius_beautyHonestly, I've read and overheard this many times over the years and I don't get it either. I dont understand what people are trying to get at with the ambition thing. Or for example, like you did, they mention they were with a guy who had nothing.Posted by TerramineLightvoidOMG look you're just NOT getting it. So I'm just going to end it with this last message because honestly I refuse to keep entertaining an immature, know it all brat.Posted by aquarius_beautyPosted by TerramineLightvoidHonestly it sounds like you're categorizing all women as these vain, self-obsessed, materialistic hoes all because that's all you've come across.
You guys are missing the point here. I ain't saying any of this because I lack any of the things I talk about.
I am fit, I work out like it is a passion. I have nothing but ambition, aspiration, etc. I am strong and dominant, etc.
AS a hot fit guy with ambition, I'm telling you what concerns a hot fit guy with ambition. You guys idealize us, so you forget that we are even people. It is like you think we have no thoughts and feelings of our own.
Why would I want a woman who is only with me BECAUSE of those things? You're fucking stupid.
First and foremost I didn't judge either of my exes based on that. In fact my ex Aries had NOTHING. He was poor but he was ambitious and driven. When we got married we didn't have shit. But I loved him. He pulled through just like I knew he would and became a successful salesman earning over $ 1000.00 a week in salary. Now he makes more because he's a business owner.
My Leo didn't have much either, since he's just starting off. But I know he will get far because I can tell he's just as driven and ambitious as my ex. He doesn't settle for the mediocre job he has now. And that is extremely alluring. Because I want to move forward in constant motion, not backwards or get stuck. All the other superficiality of having a nice body and what not is meaningless to me. Because at the end of the day it doesn't pay the bills, put a roof over your heads, or give love.
TBH I actually don't go for gym junkies or fitness obsessed men. Because a man who's too fit or too concerned with his outer appearance usually entails vanity and selfish tendencies. I stay clear out of that. I rather a man with a gut than a man with a 6 pack and my exes can attest to that.
Lmao right. So what if your ex had failed to get anywhere? What if your current "lover" fails to get anywhere?
What I have been talking about is latent in your own words. YOU are one of those hoes. You REQUIRE ambition and for that ambition to go somewhere. Which is just the same as demanding money or fitness. It is no different.
You keep missing the point. You are an exact example of what I am talking about. You don't deserve those men because it is concievable that you would abandon them in circumstances where they haven't done anything morally wrong.
On a side note. What the fuck? Why are you expecting a man to supply your constant motion? That is YOUR FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY.
First of all, I wouldn't entertain a man who wasn't ambitious because I AM ambitious. I wouldn't demand such requests on a man unless I UPHOLD to them as well. It's not about having money, it's about living a comfortable life. I'm not asking riches but I don't want to live in a poor life. I've lived BOTH with my ex and I stood by him, when he had nothing and when he had something because I loved him. It didn't work out because he lost his job and became insecure and the abuse began AGAIN. Meanwhile I was supporting us and I DID NOT MIND.
I need a man on my level. If he's not then don't bother with me. I'm not gonna support a man nor do I expect him to support me. We have to be on par, equal to have a healthy loving relationship. If you don't see that then you have a lot to learn.
I'm not asking for you to get into it. Just saying I never really understood. I've been ambitious, hard working, I've also been lazy, or lost all drive, I came from a wealthy upbringing and I've also made myself homeless out of recklessness, and I've built my own business to enjoy something to myself.
If you asked me would I choose being rich, poor, ambitious or a bum today I wouldn't see what difference it makes.
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This thread turned unexpectedly serious and good to read material from guys!
Have anyone mentioned they would leave for lack of sex? Just wondering.
Have anyone mentioned they would leave for lack of sex? Just wondering.
Posted by aquarius_beautyNo it's not just you! It's all the parents with parent senses.Posted by tizianiI have kids and I want the best for them. Best education, best life, to travel the world and experience meeting different people. We can't do that if I'm completely broke.Posted by aquarius_beautyHonestly, I've read and overheard this many times over the years and I don't get it either. I dont understand what people are trying to get at with the ambition thing. Or for example, like you did, they mention they were with a guy who had nothing.Posted by TerramineLightvoidOMG look you're just NOT getting it. So I'm just going to end it with this last message because honestly I refuse to keep entertaining an immature, know it all brat.Posted by aquarius_beautyPosted by TerramineLightvoidHonestly it sounds like you're categorizing all women as these vain, self-obsessed, materialistic hoes all because that's all you've come across.
You guys are missing the point here. I ain't saying any of this because I lack any of the things I talk about.
I am fit, I work out like it is a passion. I have nothing but ambition, aspiration, etc. I am strong and dominant, etc.
AS a hot fit guy with ambition, I'm telling you what concerns a hot fit guy with ambition. You guys idealize us, so you forget that we are even people. It is like you think we have no thoughts and feelings of our own.
Why would I want a woman who is only with me BECAUSE of those things? You're fucking stupid.
First and foremost I didn't judge either of my exes based on that. In fact my ex Aries had NOTHING. He was poor but he was ambitious and driven. When we got married we didn't have shit. But I loved him. He pulled through just like I knew he would and became a successful salesman earning over $ 1000.00 a week in salary. Now he makes more because he's a business owner.
My Leo didn't have much either, since he's just starting off. But I know he will get far because I can tell he's just as driven and ambitious as my ex. He doesn't settle for the mediocre job he has now. And that is extremely alluring. Because I want to move forward in constant motion, not backwards or get stuck. All the other superficiality of having a nice body and what not is meaningless to me. Because at the end of the day it doesn't pay the bills, put a roof over your heads, or give love.
TBH I actually don't go for gym junkies or fitness obsessed men. Because a man who's too fit or too concerned with his outer appearance usually entails vanity and selfish tendencies. I stay clear out of that. I rather a man with a gut than a man with a 6 pack and my exes can attest to that.
Lmao right. So what if your ex had failed to get anywhere? What if your current "lover" fails to get anywhere?
What I have been talking about is latent in your own words. YOU are one of those hoes. You REQUIRE ambition and for that ambition to go somewhere. Which is just the same as demanding money or fitness. It is no different.
You keep missing the point. You are an exact example of what I am talking about. You don't deserve those men because it is concievable that you would abandon them in circumstances where they haven't done anything morally wrong.
On a side note. What the fuck? Why are you expecting a man to supply your constant motion? That is YOUR FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY.
First of all, I wouldn't entertain a man who wasn't ambitious because I AM ambitious. I wouldn't demand such requests on a man unless I UPHOLD to them as well. It's not about having money, it's about living a comfortable life. I'm not asking riches but I don't want to live in a poor life. I've lived BOTH with my ex and I stood by him, when he had nothing and when he had something because I loved him. It didn't work out because he lost his job and became insecure and the abuse began AGAIN. Meanwhile I was supporting us and I DID NOT MIND.
I need a man on my level. If he's not then don't bother with me. I'm not gonna support a man nor do I expect him to support me. We have to be on par, equal to have a healthy loving relationship. If you don't see that then you have a lot to learn.
I'm not asking for you to get into it. Just saying I never really understood. I've been ambitious, hard working, I've also been lazy, or lost all drive, I came from a wealthy upbringing and I've also made myself homeless out of recklessness, and I've built my own business to enjoy something to myself.
If you asked me would I choose being rich, poor, ambitious or a bum today I wouldn't see what difference it makes.
But that's just me ?
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I went trough riches to rugs and back to a middle. Still can't afford all I want for my daughter as I used to but while growing up she had ponies and all!
When life turned - I told her we will have to tighten up our belts and she was fine with that. She still is at 22 - 8 years later!
So I don't regret spoiling her while I can. Because now she knows the difference between having it all and nothing at all!
So...every house has its own way of dealing with life. And I think I am lucky that my child had brains and heart!
Posted by aquarius_beautyBest of all to you and why not?Posted by GemitatiWell I only said that because some other people commented on my posts about being materialistic. I just want a comfortable life. Not having to worry about paying the bills, having a roof over my head, and traveling the world. I want my kids to have the best and I will do that by working hard. But I don't want someone to bring me down to settling for a struggling life. I will do what I can do to provide the best I can.
No it's not just you! It's all the parents with parent senses.
I went trough riches to rugs and back to a middle. Still can't afford all I want for my daughter as I used to but while growing up she had ponies and all!
When life turned - I told her we will have to tighten up our belts and she was fine with that. She still is at 22 - 8 years later!
So I don't regret spoiling her while I can. Because now she knows the difference between having it all and nothing at all!
So...every house has its own way of dealing with life. And I think I am lucky that my child had brains and heart!
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