A Better Understanding

I know we have had all sort of scropion qualities on these boards but I find this one to very interesting because it breaks down all the qualities.

October 23 - November 21
The eighth sign of the zodiac is concerned with:
* birth, life, death, sensuality
* passion, pushing boundaries of discovery
* regeneration, transformation, metamorphosis
* finance, investments, wills, inheritance
* hidden matters, secrets, taboos, magic
* collective unconscious, defense systems
* social revolution, reformation, change

Elemental Quality
Scorpio is the fixed water sign of the zodiac. It can be likened to still waters run deep. The relentless power of water to penetrate and transform even the hardest rocks is an excellent metaphor through which to understand the driving passion of the Scorpionic personality. Just as stalactites and stalagmites cannot be prevented from growing, once started, Scorpio cannot easily be deflected from his or her purpose.

Spiritual Goal

To learn the meaning of selfless love.
The Scorpionic Personality
These are the general personality traits found in people who are typical of Scorpio. An unhappy or frustrated Scorpio may display some of the not-so-attractive traits.


Positive Negative
* Self-critical * Self-destructive
* Penetrating * Ruthless
* Investigative * Overbearing
* Passionately caring * Suspicious
* Protective * Jealous
* Tenacious * Possessive
* Magnetic * Dangerous
* Dynamic * Quick-tempered
* Probing * Obsinate
* Emotional * Moody
* Sensual * Sadistic
* Compassionate * Insulting
* Concerned * Secretive
* Unshockable * Intolerant
* Intense concentration * Cunning
* Understands failings * Vindictive

Secret Scorpio
Inside anyone who has strong Scorpionic influences is a person who is intractable and impenetratable, so the secret Scorpio usually remains a secret. All Scorpios like to keep their true nature as hidden as possible. Astrologically, a Scorpio is said to be at one or other of three stages of evolution.

A "stage one" Scorpio exercises power through emotion and instinct. This Scorpio is symbolized by the scorpion, an insect more likely, in the end, to sting itself than others.

The "stage two" exercises power through the intellect. This Scorpio is symbolized by the golden eagle -- a bird that soars higher than any other.

At the final stage of evolution, Scorpio exercises power through love. This Scorpio is symbolized by the dove of peace.

Ruling Planet and Its Effect
Both Mars and Pluto rule the zodiac sign of Scorpio, so anyone whose birthchart has a strong Scorpio influence will tend to have two drives -- one influenced by the battling energy of Mars and the other by the hidden depths of Pluto. In astrology, Mars is the planet of aggression, and Pluto is the planet of magnetic forces.
Scorpionic Lucky Connections
Colors: deep red, blue-green
Plants: cactus, ivy, oak
Perfume: Siamese benzoin
Gemstones: turquoise, ruby
Metals: iron, steel
Tarot Card: Death (regeneration)
Animals: wolf, gray lizard
The Scorpionic Look
People who exhibit the physical characteristics distinctive of the sign of Scorpio have eyes that look at the world with almost hypnotic intensity. Eye color and shape can vary widely, but if someone looks at you with deep penetration it is a sign of a personality strongly influenced by Scorpio.
Physical Appearance
* broad face with wide forehead and thick neck
* strongly built body of middle stature
* generally slender with broad shoulders
* intense eyes
The Scorpio Male
If a man behaves in a way typical of the personality associated with the zodiac sign of Scorpio, he will have a tendency toward the characteristics listed below, unless there are influences in his personal birthchart that are stronger than that of his Scorpio sun sign.
Appearance
The typical Scorpio man:
* has strong features
* has penetrating eyes
* has thick eyebrows
* has hairy arms and legs
* has a well-proportioned figure
* has an athletic body
* has a tendency to be bowlegged
Behavior and Personality Traits
* is never self-effacing
* is possessive of what he believes belongs to him
* has to maintain his dignity
* is a law unto himself and is most courageous in adversity
* will give absolute honest advice, appraisal, or compliments
* will move mountains to help someone
* is intensely loyal to friends
* never forgets a kindness or injury
* can be a saint or a sinner, but pursues either course with great zeal
The Scorpio Female
If a woman behaves in a way that is distinctive of the personality associated with the zodiac sign of Scorpio, she will have a tendency toward the characteristics listed below, providing there are no influences in her personal birthchart that are stronger than that of her Scorpio sun sign.
Appearance
The typical Scorpio woman:
* has a compact and well-proportioned body
* has legs that are often short and thick
* is slender, but has

* has a compact and well-proportioned body
* has legs that are often short and thick
* is slender, but has a rather thick waist
* has attractive looks, even when frowning
* inclines her head downward even when looking intensely at a person
Behavior and Personality Traits
* is poised and apparently cool
* never uses flattery
* only smiles when she means it
* wants total freedom of action
* regards flirting and flattery as insulting
* wants to dominate but can accept some restriction in order to win in the end
* has many talents, all used with passion
* is loyal to family and home
* sets and keeps to her own standards
Young Scorpio
If a child behaves in a way that is distinctive of the personality associated with Scorpio, he or she will have a tendency toward the characteristics listed below.
Behavior and Personality Traits
The typical Scorpio child:
* enjoys a good fight and intends to win
* will learn only from a person seen as stronger
* keeps his or her own thoughts secret
* can find out everyone else's secrets easily
* has an instinctive understanding of adult problems
* can often bear pain well
* will be loving and loyal to family and friends
* will take revenge on others who break his/her favorite toys
* knows what he/she wants and attempts to get it
* is suspicious of strangers
Bringing Up Young Scorpio
Scorpio children are usually active, quick to learn, and intelligent. They have a passionate curiousity which needs satisfying. They should be tactfully guided away from too much interest in forbidden areas, as they are fascinated by anything that is hidden, mysterious, or a private part of someone else's life!
The best way to love a Scorpio child is to always be loyal and to make it possible for him or her to follow an interest in science, medicine, magic, engineering, sports, and literature.
Young Scorpio's Needs
A private place is essential for Scorpionic children -- somewhere they can be alone and undisturbed. It could be a room of their own or even just a closet. A secret hiding place gives the Scorpio child a sense of security.
What To Teach Young Scorpio
Understanding the rights and needs of others is an important lesson for young Scorpio. In this way, Scorpio children learn to forgive the hurts and mishaps of everyday life.
Scorpio At Home
If a person has the personality that is typical of those born with a Scorpio sun sign, home is a place to be proud of, and he or she will have a tendency toward the

the following characteristics.
Typical Behavior and Abilities
When at home, a Scorpio man or woman:
* makes the home self-contained
* is protective of children
* is gentle with the sick
* guards home territory jealously
* likes the home kept clean and orderly
* expresses good taste
* enjoys comfort
Scorpio as a Parent
* is strict about rules
* demands high standards
* enjoys the children
* keeps the children busy
* often takes the children out
* finds it hard to change viewpoints and to bridge the generation gap
* cares passionately about the family
* remains his or her child's friend throughout life
Two Scorpios in the Same Family
They will understand each other only too well. Two Scorpios mean double the passion, and it is essential that both have the facilities to follow their own passionate interests, so that no jealousies arise. Two Scorpios can get along well, provided that each has a space of his or her own that is private.
The greatest problems could arise from sexual jealousy if the two are of the same sex and age group. However, in the final analysis, the Scorpionic loyalty to family will overcome all other problems.
Scorpio At Work
At work, the person who has a typical Scorpio personality will exhibit the following characteristics.
Typical Behavior and Abilities
A typical Scorpio at work:
* will eventually know everyone's secrets
* will sense the moods of other people
* is indefatigable
* will excel as a team leader
* will appear to be calm in all situations
Scorpio as Employer
A typical Scorpio boss (male or female):
* will demand total loyalty
* will do anything to help someone he/she likes
* will solve even the most difficult problems
* will never reveal the depth of his or her competitiveness
* confronts problems directly
* will be concerned and passionate toward the workers' families, regarding them as part of the team
Scorpio as Employee
A typical Scorpio employee (male or female):
* is self-motivated
* knows what he/she wants to achieve
* will take any amount of criticism from someone who has something he/she wants
* will accept failure as inevitable only when the odds are overwhelming
* is tenacious, intense, and career minded
* does not waste time and is not a clock-watcher
Working Environment
The workplace of a typical Scorpio man or woman:
* suggests an air of quiet confidence
* is usually tidy, or at least orderly
* contains nothing superfluous to the job
* contains equipment th

DB:"Since I don't believe in 'selfless', I guess I may never reach my scorpio spiritual goal..."

LOL..

Revenge can be done in a number of ways, you don't have to go all out there and promote the stuff...

Silence speaks volumes

"At the final stage of evolution, Scorpio exercises power through love. This Scorpio is symbolized by the dove of peace. "

lol, did you get it from the teletubbies or something?

Pure Narscissism.

Still an ego-tonic for U folks-

1. Indra Nooyi- Pepsico Chief.
2. Indira Gandhi - Former PM of India
3. Condoleezza Rice- No intro required
4. Maria Shriver- Woman behind Arniez fortune.
5. Petetr Drucker- Management Guru ( Top 3 gurus are all scorpioz- FT..now thatz a sweep !)
6. Tom Peters- Bestselling author.
7. Anita Roddick- The Body Shop
8. Rebecca Romijn-Stamos
9. Stephen R. Covey - Motivational writer
10. Nadia Elena Comaneci - First to be awarded perfect 10 in gymnastics.
11. Margaret Munnerlyn Mitchell- Writer ( Gone with the wind).
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Enjoy...

My opinion is that scorp thinking/reasoning is the most profound. Although Libra females are supposed to be the most successful professionals. Any views ?

Resentment - the Scorpion's Poisonous Sting
At their most turbulent, both Aries and Scorpio relate to the experience of anger, but in precisely opposite ways. Take sex, for example. Whereas Aries charges outward like the ram to conquer the object of its desire, Scorpio's approach is a more feminine and inwardly directed one, seductively alluring the other toward it as if using (as one Scorpio friend of ours imaginatively put it) a "tractor beam." This recalls the old romantic saw: "He chased her and chased her - until she finally caught him!" The "he" here is the proverbial Aries, thrusting forward, while the "she" is akin to the seductive Scorpio, drawing the other toward it in its wake.

Yet, of all the emotions they deal with, it is the struggle with anger that most often characterizes Scorpios' own accounts of their recurring life challenges. One way of better understanding this problem is to consider the idea that every sign has its own addictions or "drug of choice," and that spiritual growth has much to do with controlling, transmuting, or entirely breaking with those particular patterns of behavior (addictions or compulsions) and learning to master the energies of that sign. For example, the "addiction" of heavily Geminian charts will tend to be ideas, or compulsive communication; for Taurus, material security; for Capricorn, status or over-achievement; and so on as we go through each sign and come up with an example to fit this model.

For Scorpio it can be argued that the drug of choice is resentment, the more destructive side of anger that has been repressed. Resentment feeds on itself in much the same way that heroin addicts must feed their addiction. We've all known those individuals who repeatedly put themselves in situations they can feel angry about, e.g., work or romance, because of the perverse (irrational and likely unconscious) "pleasure" they then derive from bathing in the toxic juices of resentment that they've created for their "fix." While one can argue that anger has its constructive side, resentment is much more insidious and therefore more damaging; one would be hard-pressed to describe any rationale for resentment being "good" - ever

Beauty Of The Beast:

Of all twelve signs, Scorpio commands the greatest passion and depth. As a water sign, like Pisces and Cancer, its energetic base is emotional. Emotions and water can take many forms. If sentimental Pisces floats like mist, and Cancer is comforting and constant as a small-town creek, then Scorpio is ground water, powerful and sustaining, yet unseen.

Scorpio touches what people don't talk about; it trades in the things people like to deny or hide. This is why Scorpios can make such good therapists, surgeons, and tax consultants, not to mention detectives, researchers, claims adjusters, and mystery writers - and yes, serial killers and devil worshippers.

Unnerved as we may sometimes be by Scorpio's intensity, it can be a fine antidote for whatever is flimsy or flighty. If we could but summon its energy, we might revive a project weakened by slack focus or a fickle heart. Consider what's slipped through our fingers over the years, and we might agree that tenacious Scorpio is a style worth cultivating. Yet, like the overreaching magician's assistant, who falls victim to the very forces he hopes to control, we should know what we deal with in Scorpio. Its power can run to extremes. Its focus can sharpen into obsession or ruthlessness...

For more of such interesting Info -
http://www.mountainastrologer.com/scorpio/299titlepg.html<BR>

"obsessed"

And I have good company.

No ?

'"obsessed"

And I have good company."

Company as in "you".

Possibly.

Not obsession exactly....conditioning rather.

I think U posted that on the wrong thread. This is not about "me".

And If I remember it correctly , U were the first one to try and elicit.
Am well past that stage of analyzing different opinions. Now itz more of adjusitng with the new belief system. Radical changes take root gradually.