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Posted by IntriguedScorp
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I was totally oblivious until the day I was not and that was the last day. 🙂



Sounds like a slow learner mentality imagine your last day of school you decide F's just aren't good enough.



Well, to be fair...the lying from his end was supreme. I am totally not going into it because it is loonnngg ago, but let's just say, if I came onto an anonymous public forum and told my story--I'd look like good one. LOL





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Ah I see.

-Winks-
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From the moment you typed "FWB" you already said enough. If you have no status, then what was it exactly that you expected from this man or situation? You state that you didn't want to be a part of a threesome, but you were, very willingly for 3 years. He played you and you FINALLY caught on. You sent him this email ranting about how he did all of this *to you*, but what did he do exactly that you didn't willingly sign up for? There were so many signs that this man was disrespecting you. Come on...some strange girl "making a key" WTF? I'm sorry NO ONE allows someone to make a key and not do something UNLESS *ding, ding, ding* they want them to have a key. At the end of the day what brought this to a head was the fact that he called the situation what it was: FWB. You wanted more. Why exactly? Because you got emotionally attached and expected that he'd feel the same, eventually. But sadly, eventually didn't come.

"I feel that in the past 3 years you've disrespected me tremendously and taken me for granted. I understand you don't feel like you have, but it's true."


"I demand a level of respect from other people, including you..." Is this before OR after you bed hop, put up with some girl trash talking you, "making a key" and invading you're "quality time" while he dates someone else & f*cks you? Just wondering.

"I deserve a lot more than your blatant lack of respect." Do you? Absolutely. But that statement should have come 3 years ago. So what exactly is it you want from this forum? A pat on that back because you supposedly stood your ground and called him on his shit? Okay
I'm assuming someone has already called you on yours (sh*t) somewhere on this thread....
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Posted by PhoenixRising
Come on...some strange girl "making a key" WTF? I'm sorry NO ONE allows someone to make a key and not do something UNLESS *ding, ding, ding* they want them to have a key.



This is the thing that threw me off too. Why would he even allow that? She violates in such a way as stealing his keys to make copies & walks into his house without so much as a "have you lost your damn mind ho"? 2 to the dome, no cops called...Nothing? And he continues to see her? I'm just not buying it. I believe he gave it to her.
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This kinda reminded me of this situation with the other two involved.

Submarine commander Michael P Ward II faked death to end affair
A married Navy commander met a woman 20 years his junior on a dating website, got her pregnant and then pretended he had died to escape the relationship, the woman has claimed.

In light of the claims, Navy Cmdr. Michael P. Ward II, 43, has been relieved of his duties as commanding officer of USS Pittsburgh - a role he began just ten days ago.

The unidentified woman from Chesapeake, Virginia said she met Ward on a dating website in October 2011 and he told her he was separated.
Ward, who is in fact married with children, told the woman he worked in 'special ops' and that his name was Tony Moore, she said.

'I want you, but I don't know how to make this all perfect,' he wrote in a text, which the woman showed to The Day. In another, he wrote: 'I love you and I always will.'
But on July 6, she received an email from a man named Bob, who claimed he worked with Ward.

'He asked me to contact you if this ever happened,' it said. 'I am extremely sorry to tell you that he is gone. We tried everything we could to save him. I cannot say more. I am sorry it has to be this way.'

The email concluded: 'He loved you very much', and said Bob had something to pass onto her from Ward.

On July 9, she drove to Ward's house in Burke, Virginia with relatives to pay her respects. But the home's new owner said Ward was alive and had moved to Connecticut to take over USS Pittsburgh.

She became ill and went to hospital, where she found out she was pregnant, she said. She has since lost the child, she said.

'I don't want revenge here,' she told The Day. 'I want everyone to know the truth about Michael. He does not need to be commanding a submarine. He's a deceitful man.'

She has contacted the Naval Criminal Investigative Service and the master chief of the USS Pittsburgh with her complaints.

Ward, who is originally from Buffalo, New York and now lives in Gales Ferry in Connecticut, overtook command of the USS Pittsburgh, an attack submarine, in a glitzy ceremony on August 3.


Cont. here-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2187691/Michael-P-Ward-II-Married-Navy-commander-relieved-duty-faked-death-getting-woman-pregnant.html
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Posted by IntriguedScorp
True, Nem. But hindsight is 20/20 and the mind has a way of not seeing stuff while its happening especially while one is in the first throes of lust/love/whatever it is. Its not until three years later when you write it all down in an anonymous public forum somewhere--because the illusions you have been living with in your head have driven you mad--that you look at the situation and think: that was pretty fucked up.

I guess experience, like you said, has a way of helping you see the fuckedupness pretty early on and then you say: meh, who needs that crap? and find another more pleasant field to play in... 🙂



Thank you. Thank you for this brilliant post. I truly wasn't going to post this, but like you said, sometimes you just need to write it out of your head...exposed the problem, and heal yourself. That's all I'm trying to do. Share something, bare my soul about it, and then take all the learning experience. While making myself a better person in spite of my experience. I just think it helps to get perspective.
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Posted by P-Angel
This is a very special thread ... it shows a Virgo lying.

We should keep it around for awhile.




Again. You drive me up the fucking wall. I'm not a liar. I've lied about NOTHING in this entire post. Period. The end.

If I was lying, don't you think i'd be a little smarter and make myself look a little less stupid for putting up with him for so long to begin with? Um YEAH, I would.

I would've presented it like "OMG, I just, I never knew he was fucking anyone else, and OMG This girl...do you think he's fucking her?...I mean I just don't know."

The point is, I knew his game alll along, and I played his fucking game. Hoping to get a different result. I was never naive to him fucking other people. Funny enough, I didn't fuck other people. I wanted to meet other people, I tried to meet other people, and I find it extremely hard to connect with people. Hence, why I'm not the whore you portray me to be.

Actually, since you presume to know me so well...here's a bit of information.

I stuck around dealing with his bullshit because quite honestly....I go YEARS without meeting just ONE person I can connect with at all! Let alone anyone I find attractive. I'm EXTREMELY picky. He was like a breath of fresh air (before I knew about the Aquarius, which came 6-7 months after I met him. I met him in May, I found out about her in November)

I was looking/keeping my options open (Cause we are all at least always looking), but he was the only person I slept with for a solid year. It wasn't because I wouldn't or couldn't do the same thing he was doing ( I definitely had prospects, If I WANTED to be an actual whore, which i'm not)...

I just didn't know anyone else worth getting involved with. So, I was either alone, or we had our FWB. Cause why the fuck should he get his, and me not get mine? So, he wants to fuck other girls, and I actually feel something (for a change) when I'm with him. THEN WHY THE HELL NOT? If anything I gained...a fucking orgasm or two out of it. FWB is not JUST FOR GUYS. I can read between the lines, but as far as her comment and cornering me...I said "If he wants you, he can have you, but he and I are friends, so leave me the fuck alone."

I just don't want her disrespecting me about my dad. PERIOD.

Hate him for fucking other girls (not just me)...there were others.
Hate him for wanting me as a friend.

But don't call
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So...the key situation that keeps being mentioned.

The claim (his story)

Earlier that day (she worked for him briefly)...he had asked her (cause they were friends remember)...to go pick up his mother and take her somewhere (mom doesn't drive), she says "ok"...and while she borrows his car to take his mom somewhere...she had made a copy of his keys, and admitted it to him (That night she showed up when I was there)
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FUCK PANGEL...She can to hell.. OPros if you close or hide this thread I am going to kick your ass.
That Miserable old bat doesn't even deserve that glory.
She talks out the side of her neck and only pesters people because shes a bitter scorn w...h..o..r..e her damn self while she sits here pointing the finger at everyone she doesn't dare say shit about her life because it's FUCKED UP so she tries to make herself feel better by pointing out others flaws. She's an annoying bitch who doesn't know when to shut the fuck up hence the reason she got her ass whooped by her ex.

FUCK P-ANGEL.
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Posted by IntriguedScorp
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This is a very special thread ... it shows a Virgo lying.

We should keep it around for awhile.



Define: lie.
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I've clearly pointed out through her own words written here that Aqua was present for the whole 3 years, while she lies and tries to say she wasn't present so that she can justify fucking a taken man.

but that doesn't even matter ... if she fucked him KNOWING he had feelings for another woman ... then she's a slut.

Even now she uses an excuse to insinuate that fwb is for women too, so why can't she have her orgasms ... but, the point is ...


He is NOT single, his feelings are with the other woman ..... to have a fuck with him under any pretense while KNOWING he isn't single for the taking ... is being a whore.


There's no justification. zero. If you fuck a taken man, then you are fucking another woman's man .... and that is unacceptable no matter how many lies you tell yourself and whoever will listen.


She lies. Even now, she tells herself that it's ok to do that and it's not ok.
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Posted by P-Angel
Posted by IntriguedScorp
Posted by P-Angel
This is a very special thread ... it shows a Virgo lying.

We should keep it around for awhile.



Define: lie.





I've clearly pointed out through her own words written here that Aqua was present for the whole 3 years, while she lies and tries to say she wasn't present so that she can justify fucking a taken man.

but that doesn't even matter ... if she fucked him KNOWING he had feelings for another woman ... then she's a slut.

Even now she uses an excuse to insinuate that fwb is for women too, so why can't she have her orgasms ... but, the point is ...


He is NOT single, his feelings are with the other woman ..... to have a fuck with him under any pretense while KNOWING he isn't single for the taking ... is being a whore.


There's no justification. zero. If you fuck a taken man, then you are fucking another woman's man .... and that is unacceptable no matter how many lies you tell yourself and whoever will listen.


She lies. Even now, she tells herself that it's ok to do that and it's not ok.
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i completely agree with this. i've been sleazy in my life at various stages and karma's paid me back with a cheating husband and so i'm not saying i agree from a judgemental point of view...it's just not right to fuck someone else's partner. it's unfortunate that sometimes you have to be on the receiving end of that kind of betrayal to really understand how disgraceful it really is.

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Posted by OProserpina

If I was lying, don't you think i'd be a little smarter and make myself look a little less stupid for putting up with him for so long to begin with?







for putting up with him?

you said you were there to fix him, because you couldn't help yourself to fix a broken man.


At what point are you going to be truthful?



The problem here is that you lie to yourself. so long as you do that, you'll never be able to (grasp) that you lie outwardly, as well. And many people are so shallow that they only recognize face value. I'm not one of those people. You have intentions and motives, and I have fully read between every line here.

You are the one broken, not him. You have found yourself completely and utterly stuck in an emotion for him that you don't know how to handle or what to do with it ... it's called love. And the moment you realized that you loved a man you shouldn't, you began to lie to yourself to continue with these feelings, because to continue with broken feelings are easier than facing the truth ... the truth being, you are his pussy call, not his woman.

And he will NEVER be respectful to you because you don't deserve respect .. the moment you dropped your knickers for him while knowing he wasn't your man, is the day you lost the ability to gain his respect.

And in your future ... EVERY fucking time you drop your knickers for a man who is NOT yours, will treat you like a fucking bitch whore, and not give a flying fuck about how you feel ... because in commiting that act, is showing him that you are a disrepectful woman for the taking.

Obviously, the truth drives you up the fucking wall .. you should check that.
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OPros, I am going to kill you woman.

Why does PAngel consistently point out things that the OP already knows she has done.
Like Shut the fuck up already, quit repeating yourself and stating the obvious.
Clearly, she states that she knew she was FWB, IF SHE WANTED to fuck the whole entire city she lives in then she can its her body and its her damn life who the fuck cares, and who the fuck are you to judge her? If everyone was perfect the world would be boring as hell.
I do believe Karma will come back for bad and good but life is about lessons learned, and we only learn them by experiencing them and doing shit ourselves. It doesn't matter who tells us what, as humans we have to figure it out ourselves and this is since we were children ... our mothers would say dont touch that stove you'll get burned and we would still do it...
The man isn't married. 90% of the men in the world have "girlfriends" and women are fucking them or trying to be in a relationship with them not knowing they are taken, the only difference is this guy was honest about it.
Either you are single or you are married.
Theres really no in between, Boyfriend/Girlfriend that shit is for high school.

He also was with her and they were in a relationship, so more than likely he cared for two woman and couldn't choose between the two.
But of course PAngel has to make people think they are worthless loose vag sluts because she gets off on it.

PAngel you are one sad unfortunate soul. Bitter Scorned Woman.
It's 2012 Bitch, not fucking 1950. Get with the program.
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I hid my posts from her...I got sick of her twisting the words around.

I will say this one more time. Someone mentioned it above. I'll put it clearly here.

I was not sleeping with -her- man. He was banging lots of girls. She didn't like it. He just happened to be closer to me than the other girls because we actually became friends. They were NOT dating, and anytime they were, I took myself completely out of the equation.

So, no, i'm not a whore.

The first year I knew him. They absolutely, positively, were in NO WAY dating. Though, obviously he was fucking her and everyone else openly. VERY openly. I took that for what it was. She wanted him to date her and he refused to, so she did some crazy shit to the girls he was fucking. Period. The end.

I would NEVER, EVER EVER EVER EVER...fuck someone I knew was legitamitely in a relationship with someone else. He WOULD tell me when they were officially dating, and when they were, I told him okay, then I won't be in your life. They would break up a couple months later and we were friends again, but she was NO WHERE to be found at those times. They didn't hang, fuck, or anything.

She's adding her own story in the gaps of information I gave.

I hid them, because, I don't want to read her lies about me.

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Posted by P-Angel
Posted by OProserpina

If I was lying, don't you think i'd be a little smarter and make myself look a little less stupid for putting up with him for so long to begin with?






And he will NEVER be respectful to you because you don't deserve respect .. the moment you dropped your knickers for him while knowing he wasn't your man, is the day you lost the ability to gain his respect.

And in your future ... EVERY fucking time you drop your knickers for a man who is NOT yours, will treat you like a fucking bitch whore, and not give a flying fuck about how you feel ... because in commiting that act, is showing him that you are a disrepectful woman for the taking.

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*giggles* You know what's funny about this? THIS WAS YOU. Wasn't it? You're obviously projecting. See, this is the scenario the men you'd fuck with, would do to YOU. You fucked them before a relationship, & they played the shit out of YOU. Hahahahahahahaha!!!!! Right? Your pussy was wack I'm sure, so there you go. Then again, maybe it was good...THAT'S WORSE. They left you anyway.

In my past I've uh "dropped my knickers" for a man I wasn't in a relationship with & guess what? We ended up in one! An actual "ROMANTIC" relationship...Isn't that fantastic! 😄 You've tried & it was an epic fail, just admit it boo-boo it's ok. Don't LIE to yourself, it just doesn't work for everyone. You're that type of broad to cling on desperately afterwards so they blatantly disregarded you in file "G", you know, the garbage. *giggles* Here's a tip, just play your cards right next time hun & you'll be straight. You're welcome!!!!!
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^ The Math is correct, except Aqua was fucking other men too. She actually dated someone else a few times in between those three years. When she would disappear it was because she was with some other guy. They actually came in the restaurant I worked at and I was shocked when I walked up to the table and there she was! So, I waited on them even. She called "Scorp" later and asked him if I "spit" in her food...which he immediately said..."Virgo would NEVER do that". As, I did not, and wouldn't. I was nice to her. No Problems.

It really comes down to this.

He was fucking other girls when I first met him, and I knew that, he told me that he was trying to figure out what he wanted. So, he was playing the field. (I completely understand this).

He told me that she wanted him to date her, and he wouldn't because (at that time, and for the first 7 months I knew him, he really didn't have feelings for her in that way...he was getting a fill for numerous girls). She saw a therapist, chilled out a bit, came back into his life as friends (and he felt like he wanted to try dating her then). Things didn't work out between them, but by that time he and I were -REALLY- good friends. (She had disappeared for 4 mo or so while getting therapy and all that, she had other problems not related to him too).


They date after she returns (after the 4mos)...and then I disappear (because like I said, when she's in his life officially, then I am am OUT by choice)


*and it goes on and on and on similar to this as the time goes by. except he and I get closer and closer also.

Basically, he likes us both, and can't make up his mind what he wants.

WHICH is what I meant, when I said, I know she wanted the same things from him I wanted.

As in...WE BOTH WANTED HIM TO MAKE UP HIS MIND!

The more things have progressed over the years, it has become blatantly clear to me (from talking to him)...he's told me flat out that they have nothing in common. he's also told me their relationships foundation was on sex and pretty much sex alone. Yet, he also tells me that, he is not willing to not have me as his best friend.
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Posted by IntriguedScorp
Posted by P-Angel
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Posted by P-Angel
This is a very special thread ... it shows a Virgo lying.

We should keep it around for awhile.



Define: lie.



I've clearly pointed out through her own words written here that Aqua was present for the whole 3 years, while she lies and tries to say she wasn't present so that she can justify fucking a taken man. but that doesn't even matter ... if she fucked him KNOWING he had feelings for another woman ... then she's a slut.
Even now she uses an excuse to insinuate that fwb is for women too, so why can't she have her orgasms ... but, the point is ...
He is NOT single, his feelings are with the other woman ..... to have a fuck with him under any pretense while KNOWING he isn't single for the taking ... is being a whore.
There's no justification. zero. If you fuck a taken man, then you are fucking another woman's man .... and that is unacceptable no matter how many lies you tell yourself and whoever will listen. She lies. Even now, she tells herself that it's ok to do that and it's not ok.



And you know what his feelings are...how? Are you assuming because he's bedding this Aqua that he must have feelings for her? In that case he was sleeping with Virgo as well, can't we assume that he has feeling for her as well? You pulled the feelings for Aqua out of your ass, P. Sorry. You don't know what the status of their relationship was when Virgo started sleeping with Scorp. You just don't. Now you are just post-rationalizing everything.

This is the math I'm coming up with here: Scorp guy = fucking multiple women. Virgo = fucking one man. Aqua = we don't know.

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I keep messing up my posts...Anyway. Virgo stated in the OP that Scorp confessed to her (after sleeping together) that he was having feelings for Agua and he then decided to have a relationship with Aqua over the next few years. Her words, not P's.
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@ Intrigued...

No, the best in bed was a Decan 3 😉. Whom I met like a year ago...whilst all this other shit was happening. (During one of my Hiatus's from Scorp Decan 2)


Which...I made the most horrible mistake of my life...Decan 3 and I, weren't official but we liked each other a lot...but Mr Decan 2 came back, and I feel for his b.s like a fool. (which was when he claimed he had feelings for me, and that was when Decan 2 and I finally dated.)

Decan 3 and I are still friends, but he was pretty pissed I picked Decan 2 over him. (I deserve this, and lost a great guy)

stupid stupid stupid.
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^ The Math is correct, except Aqua was fucking other men too .



Where the fuck was this infomation O-o
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When I wrote the initial post, I was just trying to sum up me & scorp, and I didn't think what she was doing was as important I guess. I tried to sum up the story as much as possible, and guess I left out some key things I didn't realize were important.
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Decan 3 and I are still friends, but he was pretty pissed I picked Decan 2 over him. (I deserve this, and lost a great guy)

stupid stupid stupid.



You don't deserve that. WTF? You just believed at that time you & the scorp had another chance to make the relationship work. That's not a bad thing. If you & the other guy are still friends, maybe the 2 of you can work something out now. He's still in your life right? Worth a shot. 😉
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I find it funny, Virgo doesn't correct IntriguedScorp in her response below..... . So now it's "The more things have progressed over the years, it has become blatantly clear to me (from talking to him)...he's told me flat out that they have nothing in common. he's also told me their relationships foundation was on sex and pretty much sex alone." Which one is it? Are you misrepresenting things now, or was he lying then ("he has feeling for Aqua---no, gosh gee it's just sex"). I'm not interested in accusing you of anything, so we'll just say he's lying. If he was lying, that tells you already who you were dealing with. I'm trying to route for you here, but this is all very confusing luv. Here's why:

Here's what I gathered from reading through this post BEFORE you hide the OP. You created a thread, poured you heart out, but left some holes. Based on WHAT you presented and these holes, people give their advice, albeit, not in the nicest way *hold up hand*--but some, myself included are tough love type of peeps. If I smell BS, I ask you to clean it up before we talk. But, I digress. Some called you on your BS (aka holes), you SORT OF fill in those holes, then this thread goes left because people are confused and think you're lying. You hide the OP, so no one can see all that, so here we are. If you don't provide the full story people can (or should ) only comment on what you've provided. I explain this not because I think you are stupid, but I am hoping we could just get to the point here. What is you hope to achieve with this thread? Did you want advice on how to proceed? Did you want advice about your one sided "I take no responsibility" email (sorry tough love again), or did you want us to jump on the "Scorp Men Suck" bandwagon? I am asking a genuine question, even though I know my post come off sarcastic. Which is it luv? Inquiring minds want to f*ckin know already!
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Posted by OProserpina
Phoenix. I clarified this WHOLE situation on page 10. I was trying to sum up a significant amount of time in my original post. As I was writing it out, I thought it made sense, but clearly I didn't connect some dots. So, I have clarified it all on page 10 of this thread.

Read it.



I did read it (still confused--but no matter), and I think IS is right, so my bad--he wanted to see about exploring something with her (Aqua)*deep sigh* I need a drink and I don't drink. Good luck in either case hon. I'll look through the wreckage in an hour or so.
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The e-mail, though a little late in the game, was still valid.

I said this verbatim in the e-mail:

"So for a long time, I've had you in my life and lowered the amount of respect I expect to receive for myself. All just to have you in my life. Which I will never do again. I shouldn't have allowed it to begin with, but that's irrelevant. Especially since you are a grown man, and know how you should treat other people.

I'm not your parent. So, I will not take all of the blame. "


I shouldn't have left out parts, and I realize this now. I didn't realize how important they were, until people started asking questions, and making assumptions. I didn't mean to seem "dishonest"...So, from there I just tried to fill in the missing info...which turned out catastrophically.

I am going to unhide the original post though...SO

EVERYONE PLEASE, READ THE PARTS I FILLED IN ON PAGE 10! Hopefully everything is clarified.

I wrote this post, not to hate on scorpio men (I still very much love them), and not for sympathy (I know I made some errors in judgment). I did want to write out the situation, and get some perhaps "new" insight from an outside source...I just wanted to write it out of my system. maybe learn something.