is it possible to dump someone tactfully?

i need to end things completely with the crab i've been seeing but i know he's gonna take it badly. like reeeeally badly. he's already threatened me before when he thought i'd done a bunk when i took my daughter back to england. i'd switched my phone off to conserve battery cos i was flying back to spain hours after arriving in england. when i switched it on he'd called a zillion times and texted that if i wasn't going back i would have to look over my shoulder for the rest of my life.

today, i bumped into the local window cleaner and asked if he could come to my apartment to do my windows and mirrors. we arranged a date and then he said to me not to mention it to the crab cos it would be bad news for him. i asked wtf he was talking about and he said that the crab was uber possessive over me.

these are not the reasons i want to end it cos that's cos he and my daughter don't get on but obviously the above behaviour is factored in to that decision....particularly in terms of how he's gonna take it when i tell him it's over.

right now i'm not being fair to him cos i'm stringing him along really....out of concern about him flying off the handle. i do also like him a huge amount...he has qualities....doesn't everyone. i don't want to hurt him but it's inevitable...i just don't want to have to deal with his revenge, particularly cos it could potentially involve my daughter.

should i just be blunt about it and get it done?

The only way to be fair - is to be honest.
Also... despite his sometimes behaviour - he's an adult. This is not your responsibility.

I say that in a sober state (for him) he needs to hear it loud and clear. With logic involved, I think crabs are very good at hearing the truth. If you are unclear in any way, or waver - that's where there will be trouble. He may cry/pout, but that's what I mean when I say that isn't yours to deal with. It's his.

Good luck r1g!

Also, lol I'm not stalking your threads. I see them up on the front page - and then you're threads are fun to respond to because you are coherent in your posts lol 🙂

Posted by deezie
Also, lol I'm not stalking your threads. I see them up on the front page - and then you're fun to respond to 🙂

lol damnit, I changed my mind about what I was going to say, and only half changed the grammar - hate when I do that.

also - my aries moon is showing.... how many posts can I get before someone cuts in my self-fun—??

Straight up and to the point. Dont waver or he will read it as a ploy. Be consistent. You can do this, my friend 🙂

LOL @ deezie 🙂

i prefer honesty cos it's always the best policy but i have this bloody libra curse throughout my chart that makes me soooo wishy washy and people pleasey and i can't bear the responsibilty of someone else's pain, especially if i'm responsible for it.

every time i go for a frank discussion he cuts over me saying it's not good to talk about stuff that's gonna cause a fight between us. perhaps he senses it's gonna end in more than just a fight. he must know that without my daughter in the equation, there can be no 'us'.

don't get me wrong. i don't think he would ever be physically violent towards me...in fact i would go as far as to say i KNOW he wouldn't hurt me or my daughter as he watched his own mother being beaten by a violent alchie father during his early years.

i also only found out last week that he suffers from clinical depression and doesn't take medication for it, prefering to use the power of a positive mind to combat it. all very noble but then alcohol is a depressant and he loves his drink.

he has scars on his wrists from a suicide attempt at the age of 20.

these are things i've literally just become aware of. probs cos we've been too busy having sex LOL...no issues in that department!!

Oh my god.

Yeah, I would NOT want to be in the position of having to dump a Crab.

Scary shit.

Put a restraining order on him. That's what I'm going to have to do with someone, unfortunately. But neither of us should have to put up with batshit crazy.

My stalker is a cancer. We weren't even together, though I can see now that he was possessive over me during the time we talked. I told him in every way possible that I don't want to talk to him and I ignored all his attempts at contact after that, but he's been going strong since November at the stalking, even after my boyfriend had to report him and get a restraining order because of death threats.

Your cancer is an adult and may take it differently. I would just be aware that anything is possible and that it could turn out to be a hassle. I wish you the best!

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
when i switched it on he'd called a zillion times and texted that if i wasn't going back i would have to look over my shoulder for the rest of my life.

Woo... At that EXACT moment I wouldve been d.o.n.e. However, there would have also been a fiercer counter-threat served back at him in the process, with some power behind it to pack the punch! But... This isn't about me, it's about you....

Yes, be completely honest, but you don't have to be hurtful. To please your Libra placements, start out with letting him know what you enjoyed about him, and what you got out of being with him, but be clear when you say "Although these things were great, they are not enough to hold us together anymore". Then tell him of the things that have pushed you away, and why you feel that they cannot be fixed. If he begs/cries, remind him that both parties need to be interested in 'fixing it' in order for it to work, and at this point, you just are not in it anymore.
If you feel he will become enraged/threatening/violent, you may want to do it over the phone. (over the phone sucks, but hey... This is you and your daughter's safety. Plus he will deal, and learn to get over it.

Once all is expressed, leave... He doesn't exist anymore... except in your memory.

-PV

did anyone see things would fall apart?

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
don't get me wrong. i don't think he would ever be physically violent towards me...in fact i would go as far as to say i KNOW he wouldn't hurt me or my daughter as he watched his own mother being beaten by a violent alchie father during his early years.

i also only found out last week that he suffers from clinical depression and doesn't take medication for it, prefering to use the power of a positive mind to combat it. all very noble but then alcohol is a depressant and he loves his drink.

he has scars on his wrists from a suicide attempt at the age of 20.

these are things i've literally just become aware of. probs cos we've been too busy having sex LOL...no issues in that department!!

So your vagina has been doing all the thinking. Splains why you've stuck around this long. Tsk tsk.

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
don't get me wrong. i don't think he would ever be physically violent towards me...in fact i would go as far as to say i KNOW he wouldn't hurt me or my daughter as he watched his own mother being beaten by a violent alchie father during his early years.

i also only found out last week that he suffers from clinical depression and doesn't take medication for it, prefering to use the power of a positive mind to combat it. all very noble but then alcohol is a depressant and he loves his drink.

he has scars on his wrists from a suicide attempt at the age of 20.

these are things i've literally just become aware of. probs cos we've been too busy having sex LOL...no issues in that department!!

Rig, A word of advice that you should take to heart. Before you get involved with another man, physically in any way
shape or form, find these things out first, so you don't find yourself regretting the situation when you happen to change
your mind and things get real sticky like this. - ie put sex last and other people's feelings first. - things
can work out better, for you and someone else in the long run.
Food for thought.

btw, do you have any Sag in ya?

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
don't get me wrong. i don't think he would ever be physically violent towards me...in fact i would go as far as to say i KNOW he wouldn't hurt me or my daughter as he watched his own mother being beaten by a violent alchie father during his early years.

i also only found out last week that he suffers from clinical depression and doesn't take medication for it, prefering to use the power of a positive mind to combat it. all very noble but then alcohol is a depressant and he loves his drink.

he has scars on his wrists from a suicide attempt at the age of 20.

these are things i've literally just become aware of. probs cos we've been too busy having sex LOL...no issues in that department!!

Yeah, be blunt and then run. If he starts taking better care of himself, then see what happens.

Rig, this thread reminded me of something I think I posted a long time ago. My teenage son and his friends brought this to my attention. It's specific, and for a fee, this guy dumps for you.

http://idump4u.com/

There's actual recorded footage there of him dumping for people. Pretty heartless and for those Jerry Spinger type of people.

Or the humane way and what deezie said "fair and honest"

Posted by LetltB
Rig, this thread reminded me of something I think I posted a long time ago. My teenage son and his friends brought this to my attention. It's specific, and for a fee, this guy dumps for you.

http://idump4u.com/

There's actual recorded footage there of him dumping for people. Pretty heartless and for those Jerry Spinger type of people.

Or the humane way and what deezie said "fair and honest"

oops, sorry about that

http://idump4u.com

it ^^that still doesn't work just type in search engine idump4u.com

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Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
don't get me wrong. i don't think he would ever be physically violent towards me...in fact i would go as far as to say i KNOW he wouldn't hurt me or my daughter as he watched his own mother being beaten by a violent alchie father during his early years.

i also only found out last week that he suffers from clinical depression and doesn't take medication for it, prefering to use the power of a positive mind to combat it. all very noble but then alcohol is a depressant and he loves his drink.

he has scars on his wrists from a suicide attempt at the age of 20.

these are things i've literally just become aware of. probs cos we've been too busy having sex LOL...no issues in that department!!

So your vagina has been doing all the thinking. Splains why you've stuck around this long. Tsk tsk.

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Oh shit, we've all been there.

Crabs do take it bad when you break it off. I broke up with one once and he wouldn't hear what I was telling him, wouldn't listen to the reasons. Kept arguing why we could be together. We had this conversation TWICE. I finally just had to ignore him. Every six months or so, I'll hear from him - either vulgar texts (jealousy over the aqua - who I did not start dating until months after the crab) or he wants me to know his new girlfriend is a sex fiend and can't get enough of him. He hasn't done anything to warrant a restraining order, but he was a pain in the ass.

well, this all bodes well!!

when i try to talk to him he doesn't want to listen. starts talking over me and saying that it's best not to talk about anything that causes a fight. so we just seem to talk bollocks instead.

i'm telling him that i'm having my windows cleaned on friday morning by the dude who asked me to keep it quiet. i thought it ludicrous to do that and so i'm not cos in any case, this window cleaner bloke would be bound to tell someone and then the crab would find out from someone else and blah.....just not worth it.

i'm sure the fight over the fact i'm having my windows cleaned by someone he knows will be enough to lead to a dumping convo!!

today he was at my apartment briefly to fix some things for me and i was working. when he had finished the little jobs he came to sit next to me and was reading an email i was writing over my shoulder. i was writing to this man i met yesterday through work who i had said i would contact with some further information about something and i was emailing to say although i didn't have the info as yet, i would be in touch in the near future. i like to think i'm the consumate professional in terms of getting back to people.

anyhow, the crab started on a mini-rant about how it was pointless to write an email more or less saying i had nothing to say and implying that it would give the guy the wrong impression that i fancied him or something. i told the crap he was talking bullshit and that if i say i'm going to contact someone, i contact them cos it's called common courtesy?

his possessiveness is quite stiffling!!

"i'm telling him that i'm having my windows cleaned on friday morning by the dude who asked me to keep it quiet. i thought it ludicrous to do that and so i'm not cos in any case, this window cleaner bloke would be bound to tell someone and then the crab would find out from someone else and blah.....just not worth it.

i'm sure the fight over the fact i'm having my windows cleaned by someone he knows will be enough to lead to a dumping convo!!"

hmm, so not only are you going to dump this guy, you're going to add a sting using an innocent bystander to make the dumping easier and a little more justifiable? Not nice.

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
.... these are things i've literally just become aware of. probs cos we've been too busy having sex LOL...no issues in that department!!

Just tell him that and he'll re-coup just fine. In the end, that's all a guy needs to hear. 😛

(Phew, and here I thought you had REAL problems! )

And Rigor, could you post your natal chart. I'm dying to take a dive!!

Posted by LetltB
"i'm telling him that i'm having my windows cleaned on friday morning by the dude who asked me to keep it quiet. i thought it ludicrous to do that and so i'm not cos in any case, this window cleaner bloke would be bound to tell someone and then the crab would find out from someone else and blah.....just not worth it.

i'm sure the fight over the fact i'm having my windows cleaned by someone he knows will be enough to lead to a dumping convo!!"

hmm, so not only are you going to dump this guy, you're going to add a sting using an innocent bystander to make the dumping easier and a little more justifiable? Not nice.

no. not at all. the window cleaner guy was the one who asked me not to say anything to the crab but i figure that's the WRONG thing to do. how's crabby gonna feel if he finds out from someone else that i had my windows cleaned 'in secret'!!! it looks bad and also why would i keep it secret if there's nothing to it? i'm just trying to pre-empt the crab's reaction in both scenarios.

so i'm gonna tell him that i'm having them done. all i was saying was that i know the crab is gonna be pissed off and there's nothing to be pissed off about and so i imagine that when i tell him it will lead to a wider discussion.

that's all LiB. i'm not using an innocent bystander at all. i'm just not prepared to hide something for the sake of someone i don't know very well in favour of keeping it quiet from the crab.

know what i mean? fuck.....i'm confused enough lol!

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And Rigor, could you post your natal chart. I'm dying to take a dive!!

Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0

Sun Scorpio 9.42 Ascendant Virgo 16.50
Moon Libra 13.51 II Libra 9.02
Mercury Scorpio 20.21 III Scorpio 7.35
Venus Libra 2.04 IV Sagittarius 12.45
Mars Leo 27.51 V Capricorn 19.46
Jupiter Taurus 22.34 R VI Aquarius 21.22
Saturn Aquarius 28.21 VII Pisces 16.50
Uranus Virgo 13.48 VIII Aries 9.02
Neptune Scorpio 17.17 IX Taurus 7.35
Pluto Virgo 15.47 Midheaven Gemini 12.45
Lilith Capricorn 2.33 XI Cancer 19.46
Asc node Gemini 23.38 XII Leo 21.22

DIVE IN!!!

*facepalms the biggest facepalm any facepalmer ever facepalmed*

LOL!!

I think telling him what your are going to have done is the right thing. No biggie. No secrets. Its no different than a plumber, chimney sweep, refrigerator repair man, carpet cleaners, etc. I mean, it's not like you're going to have him dress up in a G string and clean your windows while you drink margaritas and watch!!

Or are you? 😉

Rig, I think you're a cool chick, but you need to get your shit together. Not much can be said or respected of a woman who puts her love life ahead of the safety of her children and herself. I mean, really? Can we say desperation?

Posted by rockyroadicecream
Rig, I think you're a cool chick, but you need to get your shit together. Not much can be said or respected of a woman who puts her love life ahead of the safety of her children and herself. I mean, really? Can we say desperation?

he's not a psycho killer ffs!!! i have never and will never put ANYTHING ahead of my kids.

and as for desperate.......pfffffffffffffft!!!

"that's all LiB. i'm not using an innocent bystander at all. i'm just not prepared to hide something for the sake of someone i don't know very well in favour of keeping it quiet from the crab.

know what i mean? fuck.....i'm confused enough lol!"

I do understand what you mean. I really do. You are dealing with a water sign, he's gonna see right through this, and I'm guessing he's been sensing this coming for sometime (hence his behavior). Direct is always the best route, and I wish you much luck in your effort to get released from his clinchers! 🙂 Would be interested in knowing how this goes down.

pro stalker ^

Roxy 😄

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Posted by rockyroadicecream
Rig, I think you're a cool chick, but you need to get your shit together. Not much can be said or respected of a woman who puts her love life ahead of the safety of her children and herself. I mean, really? Can we say desperation?

he's not a psycho killer ffs!!! i have never and will never put ANYTHING ahead of my kids.

and as for desperate.......pfffffffffffffft!!!

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Did you not say that you had a problem with being lonely (whatever word it was that described your NEED to keep a relationship)? This kinda explains why you've kept him around this long. So yes, desperation is the word.

However, kudos to you for identifying the issue and wanting to do something about it. A lot of women prefer to keep their heads up their asses and continue this fucked up cycle.

Just get that shit done and move on. Purr points out a great point too- you're setting a really fucked up example for your daughter.

"Is it possible to dump someone tactfully?"

Yes. If it has been done tactfully and they can't handle it *shrug*. You're not responsible for how someone else chooses to respond to a break up.

Posted by OvS
Roxy 😄

hey OvS!!! now, you're a man with some dumping experience LOL....advise me!!

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Posted by rockyroadicecream
Rig, I think you're a cool chick, but you need to get your shit together. Not much can be said or respected of a woman who puts her love life ahead of the safety of her children and herself. I mean, really? Can we say desperation?

he's not a psycho killer ffs!!! i have never and will never put ANYTHING ahead of my kids.

and as for desperate.......pfffffffffffffft!!!

Better safe than sorry. Never take threats on your life lightly. You don't rely on intuition or what you THINK someone is capable of doing when it comes to serious things like that, come on! It's just common sense. Seriously, why are you even concerned about him at this point? You need to be setting a good example for your daughter. Putting up with this guy and his bullshit screws with your daughter's idea of what's healthy and acceptable in relationships, ESPECIALLY at her age. That's a big problem.

*sigh*

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well since that time he was agressive to my daughter and i took her home after giving him a scarey tongue-lashing, he hasn't been anywhere near her. i won't allow it. i've also told him that we have no future because of his lack of respect for the fact that i have kids and his inability to remember that she's a child.....a bloody teenager at that!!!

i made that clear immediately after that incident but i do still see him. my daughter's old enough to be home alone and so i either see him when she's at school or occasionally one evening or if she has a sleepover. they have literally not even had so much as eye contact since that incident. perhaps that gives a better measure of me as a mother cos i realise i've not made that clear and she's witnessing me not setting a good example cos trust me, setting an example is what's kept me single for five years and in those five years, i never once had a man back at my apartment or introduced them to my kids even cos obviously i dated even though i wasn't in a relationship.

sorry for the gobbledy-gook. i'm as sober as a judge. HONESSHT!!!

i saw the crab tonight. started off as 'my' talk...wound up as 'his' talk. on the surface he is as hard as nails but underneath he's riddled with insecurities! he was complaining that he felt like a fuck buddy and i kinda had to remind him he was but he's clearly not taking what i'm saying about the state of affairs viz-a-viz my kids is not conducive to anything long term. it's like he just doesn't want to hear it.

after tonight, i can see that if i continue just being me it's gonna be enough for HIM to end it. i'm just not an emotionally expressive person and i can't say things i don't feel....like 'i love you'. he needs to hear that from me...told me that...but i literally can't say it out loud if i don't feel it.

i did say i liked him a little bit though, lol!!

Posted by Purrr
Please don't have him come to your house and drag the window cleaner into it. It's seriously a terrible and dangerous idea.

oh yeah...i cancelled the window cleaner this morning. i'd decided i was gonna tell the crab i'd booked him but ran out of time before he was due to come and clean the windows. when i called to cancel, i said i would have them done some time soon and i would let him know. he said...'our secret yeah?' and i said 'no' cos i think it's just ridiculous to make something out of nothing and if the crab found out after the event, it doesn't look great does it! i would go ballistic if i caught someone out lying to me.

so i will have to clean my own windows now 😢

why was the window cleaning plans canceled?

Just make sure you mean it, otherwise don't bother.

Okay.

Fuck tact.

And this is coming from someone with six freakin Libra placements.

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Posted by OvS
Roxy 😄

hey OvS!!! now, you're a man with some dumping experience LOL....advise me!!

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just dump him and ignore that sun of a bitch. you can handle anything. you're a freeking mossad agent and a scorpio. a living legend. just like in ludlum's books.
how could you let a drunk man around your angel rj?what kind of man would she search for in the future? you really lowered your standards. come on. don't make me come there to hire some Ukrainian consultancy company to do the job for you. I could do it but I'm expensive. If you don't have the balls.... just call Zohan. 😉 or I'll call Zohar to get me a Mauser(I'm classy).
this is not a joke. 😐

I've killed before in combat and I would do it again.(for a proper fee ofcourse😛 )

It's all just a power game... she won't say she loves him because he wants her too. (he knows this... but his retaliation will surprise her)

R1gs not going anywhere, he's not going anywhere... she lives in a lil village filled with seniors and this is the best entertainment/sex she's had in years.

Here's something for your next plot, R1g...

Invite the window washer, the plumber AND the cable guy on the same day... Then create some drama to get the Crab to come over. He'll walk in and see you with 3 men and you can bat your eyelashes and pretend it's all just a misunderstanding cause you told him about your repair 3way but he was too drunk to remember

i kid, i kid...

😄

Posted by Purrr
OMG, this thread is pissing me the fuck off. Rig, here's the bottom line:

-You need to WAKE UP! He threatened to KILL YOU! Don't take that shit lightly!

-You need to BE A BLUNT BITCH! CUT HIM OFF! DON'T BE SUBTLE! TELL HIM TO TAKE A HIKE!

-Keep your daughter safe. DO NOT LET THIS GUY NEAR HER EVER AGAIN.

-Keep yourself safe. DO NOT LET THIS GUY NEAR YOU EVER AGAIN.

Good lord, Purr. Calm down. She said he'd mentioned having to watch her back. That's an ambiguous threat. That's not a direct threat to kill. You're dwelling on an assumption.

However, the fact that he went apeshit and threatened her because he thought she left is a big enough red flag to end it. Period.

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Posted by Purrr
OMG, this thread is pissing me the fuck off. Rig, here's the bottom line:

-You need to WAKE UP! He threatened to KILL YOU! Don't take that shit lightly!

-You need to BE A BLUNT BITCH! CUT HIM OFF! DON'T BE SUBTLE! TELL HIM TO TAKE A HIKE!

-Keep your daughter safe. DO NOT LET THIS GUY NEAR HER EVER AGAIN.

-Keep yourself safe. DO NOT LET THIS GUY NEAR YOU EVER AGAIN.

Good lord, Purr. Calm down. She said he'd mentioned having to watch her back. That's an ambiguous threat. That's not a direct threat to kill. You're dwelling on an assumption.

However, the fact that he went apeshit and threatened her because he thought she left is a big enough red flag to end it. Period.

I'm just tired of seeing thread after thread about how much of a controlling asshole this guy is, and how Rig keeps saying she needs to dump him for her daughter's sake. People give her advice, thread after thread, and she keeps saying she's going to dump him, but always changes her mind. A week from now, there'll probably be another new thread asking for advice about how to deal with this tool. It gets fucking old.

This guy has exhibited creepy, fucked up, controlling, abusive behavior from the beginning. Too many red flags to count. He's not good for her or her daughter, and she needs to drop kick him the fuck out of their lives for good.

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I know it's hard to accept, but she thinks it's cute in some way. As long as she finds his behaviour endearing, you'll have to read about all that crap. She'll get a beating eventually and then maybe her close friends and family will deal with it. Until then, hang on, feline crab person. 😉

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Posted by Purrr
OMG, this thread is pissing me the fuck off. Rig, here's the bottom line:

-You need to WAKE UP! He threatened to KILL YOU! Don't take that shit lightly!

-You need to BE A BLUNT BITCH! CUT HIM OFF! DON'T BE SUBTLE! TELL HIM TO TAKE A HIKE!

-Keep your daughter safe. DO NOT LET THIS GUY NEAR HER EVER AGAIN.

-Keep yourself safe. DO NOT LET THIS GUY NEAR YOU EVER AGAIN.

Good lord, Purr. Calm down. She said he'd mentioned having to watch her back. That's an ambiguous threat. That's not a direct threat to kill. You're dwelling on an assumption.

However, the fact that he went apeshit and threatened her because he thought she left is a big enough red flag to end it. Period.

I'm just tired of seeing thread after thread about how much of a controlling asshole this guy is, and how Rig keeps saying she needs to dump him for her daughter's sake. People give her advice, thread after thread, and she keeps saying she's going to dump him, but always changes her mind. A week from now, there'll probably be another new thread asking for advice about how to deal with this tool. It gets fucking old.

This guy has exhibited creepy, fucked up, controlling, abusive behavior from the beginning. Too many red flags to count. He's not good for her or her daughter, and she needs to drop kick him the fuck out of their lives for good.

I know it's hard to accept, but she thinks it's cute in some way. As long as she finds his behaviour endearing, you'll have to read about all that crap. She'll get a beating eventually and then maybe her close friends and family will deal with it. Until then, hang on, feline crab person. 😉

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It's just so fucked up and sad that not only is Rig wasting more of her life on another abusive asshole, her daughter has to deal with this guy's shit, too. It makes me sick. I understand that because of her ex-husband, Rig has been conditioned to think fucked up behavior is normal, and I get that it's hard to fix that, but this is affecting her child. It

Posted by Purrr
It's just so fucked up and sad that not only is Rig wasting more of her life on another abusive asshole, her daughter has to deal with this guy's shit, too. It makes me sick. I understand that because of her ex-husband, Rig has been conditioned to think fucked up behavior is normal, and I get that it's hard to fix that, but this is affecting her child. It's not fair.

That's the thing. I could simply dislike her for being just another dumb woman who fuels my misogynistic inclinations that I've trying to overcome, but to impose that behaviour on a child makes me simply hate her. She needs friends fast, rather than the occasional beer breath ass grab.

hate?? lol....

dude, you do know you are on the internets...right?

Posted by BigGirlPanties
hate?? lol....

dude, you do know you are on the internets...right?

All children deserve the same respect and care, even if they don't live in my immediate surroundings. Unless I'm mistaken and people on the internet are just bots with made-up lives created for my amusement?

Posted by Purrr
Plus, she said in the other thread that he gets aggressive towards her daughter when he's drunk. If I went and quoted every fucked up thing she's posted that he's done and posted them all here, everyone would understand why I reacted that way.

The soft and gentle approach is obviously not working on her. Maybe nothing will...

I agree with you, but you missed the point. I wasn't referring to your approach. I was referring to your dwelling on an assumption and getting dramatic about that.

I agree with the rest of what you said though. This whole beaten wife trend that's going on around the boards is really old. I don't have a lot of respect for women who do this shit to themselves.