Scorpio Sun Vs. Scorpio Rising?

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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..

Wat r u on

Risings are like the generic version of a brand
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Wow does ur rising hit home
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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..

Wat r u on

Risings are like the generic version of a brand
false

Wow does ur rising hit home

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I just know that virgo risings are superior to virgos is all
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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..

Wat r u on

Risings are like the generic version of a brand
How I know it, the rising sign is the life path ones lives.. It's not just your "appearance", or how others might perceive you as to be. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I know it to be.
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Honestly I have no idea I'm stuck between being two potential risings and I relate to both. But I do know what you said is more fitting to scorpio suns than risings. But that doesn't mean you don't have aspects that'll give you the same result.
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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..

Wat r u on

Risings are like the generic version of a brand
false

Wow does ur rising hit home


I just know that virgo risings are superior to virgos is all
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I see why you don't want to be seen as the little bitch
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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..

Wat r u on

Risings are like the generic version of a brand
false

Wow does ur rising hit home


I just know that virgo risings are superior to virgos is all

I see why you don't want to be seen as the little bitch
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Ill assume that was a shot at pisces

Alas I highly doubt anyone in the history of DXP have thought I was a virgo

So there goes that theory on Risings!

Tho I'm sure that is because I come off beautiful like a libra moon.

Who knows anymore
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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..

Wat r u on

Risings are like the generic version of a brand
false

Wow does ur rising hit home


I just know that virgo risings are superior to virgos is all

I see why you don't want to be seen as the little bitch
Ill assume that was a shot at pisces

Alas I highly doubt anyone in the history of DXP have thought I was a virgo

So there goes that theory on Risings!

Tho I'm sure that is because I come off beautiful like a libra moon.

Who knows anymore
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Nah that was belittling risings. They're just initial appearances and how one carries themselves. It doesn't go beyond that. The moon and sun is a person's depth.

And dude you do not come off as a virgo rising! Total libra moon and taurus energy from you.
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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..

Wat r u on

Risings are like the generic version of a brand
false

Wow does ur rising hit home


I just know that virgo risings are superior to virgos is all

I see why you don't want to be seen as the little bitch
Ill assume that was a shot at pisces

Alas I highly doubt anyone in the history of DXP have thought I was a virgo

So there goes that theory on Risings!

Tho I'm sure that is because I come off beautiful like a libra moon.

Who knows anymore
you're not a Virgo?
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If someone has a Scorp Sun and Libra Rising, do they appear Libra at first glance and Scorp later?
Not sure. As a young kid, my best friend was a Pisces. And I was much more introverted. I was also inseparable with my Pisces sister.

My teenage yrs... My closest friends were Aquarians and Libras (most had Taurus moons actually)!

I remember my Aquarian friend repeating over and over that I was not a typical Scorpio and that she thought I was more like a Libra. Which is funny because I have Libra Ascendant and I didn't know about birth charts in those days.

Now I think I give off three vibes depending on the situation. And I am Scorpio, Leo and Libra dominant.

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I read somewhere that you become your ascendant more as you age. Anyone else heard this?
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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..


Right, so that means that Scorpio Suns don't actually live their hell? its 'just emotions'.
Hmmm. Good point. I don't know, I just feel like scorpio risings get thrown in the deep end pretty much without having an option.
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Rising is what you see is not always what you get.
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If someone has a Scorp Sun and Libra Rising, do they appear Libra at first glance and Scorp later?
Not sure. As a young kid, my best friend was a Pisces. And I was much more introverted. I was also inseparable with my Pisces sister.

My teenage yrs... My closest friends were Aquarians and Libras (most had Taurus moons actually)!

I remember my Aquarian friend repeating over and over that I was not a typical Scorpio and that she thought I was more like a Libra. Which is funny because I have Libra Ascendant and I didn't know about birth charts in those days.

Now I think I give off three vibes depending on the situation. And I am Scorpio, Leo and Libra dominant.


I read somewhere that you become your ascendant more as you age. Anyone else heard this?

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LOL.

If this is a fact then I must be living my life backwards, cos I'm becoming less and less like my rising and more like my moon and mercury.
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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..

Wat r u on

Risings are like the generic version of a brand
false
You'll never be a Virgo, no matter how many times you reformat you spreadsheets.

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I dont actually want to be a Virgo. I just happen to have the superior rising to said sun :/
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I read sumwherez on da innermet



"The ascendant is the outer persona, mask, framework, behavior, mannerisms, appearance, or vehicle that enables the Sun to navigate through life."

So a Scorpio sun is a creepy bastard in general and a Scorpio rising navigates through life like a creepy bastard
Hahaha

I'll remember that!
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Rising sign is so damn important imo

It changes every 2 hours or so... moon every 2 days and sun every 30/31 days

Without the rising, the House system wouldn't work. The House system has a deterministic element - life themes, IC, DC, MC, planets above or below horizon

The Ascendant is the base/structure of a house, it holds you together...

It's not just how people perceive you, although that too, because you can't help it. It's the first house of the chart, the self. It's also how you yourself see life, a fundamental layer of one's personality that modifies or adds a nuance to one's sun

I think he difference is in that you always seek the experiences, passions and emotions of your sun. The rising, on the other hand, is not necessarily a goal (yet whether you like it or not it is reality)
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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..

Wat r u on

Risings are like the generic version of a brand
false
You'll never be a Virgo, no matter how many times you reformat you spreadsheets.

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my man has virgo "characteristics" just like any who has this rising.

they do have the dominant energy, and weren't you also defending the rising half a year ago or more, when someone was saying they don't have aquarius energy but they have aquarius rising so I mentioned, yes you do have aquarius energy, that is your energy and chart ruler. even astrotheme have repeated placed those who have risings as having dominant energy in that chart.

or are you just trolling afternoon? 😕
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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..

Wat r u on

Risings are like the generic version of a brand
false
You'll never be a Virgo, no matter how many times you reformat you spreadsheets.


I dont actually want to be a Virgo. I just happen to have the superior rising to said sun :/
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The Sun is the core of our being - while the ASC reflects the outer layer. Unless the Sun is tied to the ASC (the conjunction - in particular), the people we encounter - might need some time in our company - till they'll be able to perceive the nature of our Sun. Or, until we let them in. The house where the Sun falls - is also important, cause that's where the Sun shines the brightest - where it's more revealing. The Sun, is what one would call - the inner child (our inner Ego). It's what grows... what lights our path through life (when it's shining). It's our source of love... our source of creativity and happiness (in what way... that's what's defined by our Sun). While the ASC - is our outer-shell, our persona - our alter Ego. It can take the role of a Friend (even an Enemy - at times when we fight with our selves), of an Adviser (that voice in our head - that talks from a first hand experience/understanding... thus, most thoughts which involve the "I/Me" - "I want... I this... I that..." or "whatever we might think of those - who had/have an impact on us" - involve the ASC) or a Guardian (a defensive mechanism - that's shaped by its interactions with the exterior / it's where our fears and doubts reside). It can act in our place - at times, since... it's more or less primal in nature, it acts based on what it knows from actual experience. Doesn't matter if it's true or not - the main motto of the ASC is ''what you see - it's what you get". After all... the ASC has a beginning and an End (though, one could die - many times in a life time).

A simpler way to look at it...

Let's say - the chart is representative for an actual House. Thus, the ASC would be representative - for the exterior of the house. Which is obviously - interconnected with the interior - while the IC is the structure/foundation. The Sun on the other hand - is the rightful owner of the house - the one who lives there. In the begging - the ASC is more like a simple hut - which it's not something we can count upon (it's why we need others), though... for that reason - that first experience is more or less care free (it gives us a lot of freedom) - cause we don't bother much with it. We simply don't care, since we lack even a basic awareness of our alter ego. A primal experience - where we get to experience everything for the first time - while interacting with the real world. And as we grow - so does the ASC (from experience), so does the House... What was once a simple hut, latter - it might have solid walls with bars on windows and huge fences - with cameras and security all around it. ^^
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The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..

Wat r u on

Risings are like the generic version of a brand
false
You'll never be a Virgo, no matter how many times you reformat you spreadsheets.


I dont actually want to be a Virgo. I just happen to have the superior rising to said sun :/
Come again? Take several seats.



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I find this a lot with strong egos, lol especially leo and scorpio.

I've been noticing a lot with strong egos, despite the facts that rising does have a huge significance on your 7th house relationship. I know it's not just me noticing but I do see it a lot. the ego is so STRONG.

edit - aries too is very very strong, it's exalted. but I don't see many aries sun males on this forum or aries female saying how ego /sun is the most powerful.
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Posted by BuffaloBills28
The emotional turbulence the sun scorps feel, is the life scorpio risings actually live... Scorpio risings go through hell and back, and numerous times at that throughout their lives..
Yup, this may be why Caps ruled by Saturn, the god of Responsibility can relate so well with Scorpios. But Sun or rising - trust is imperative to a Scorpio and they WILL find out the truth. Scorpios also remember those that burn them. It could be 20 years ago but they WILL seek revenge if they're crossed. Like Scorpio Sean Combs once said, "You cross me, you lost me."