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Historical sex symbols & divorce
Feel free to add more sex symbols fam.
Posted by AerialView
@lisabethur8
I was thinking about her as I was pulling all this together but I didn’t wanna look desperate by tagging her 😅😅
Posted by sierra_
paranoia about men marrying them for their image
You think men back then wanted to be associated with uh sexually liberal women, in a conservative time era?
Posted by WhorpioShe will be here 😄Posted by AerialView
@lisabethur8
I was thinking about her as I was pulling all this together but I didn’t wanna look desperate by tagging her 😅😅click to expand
Jayne Mansfield is quite tragic.
Posted by nano
Isn't 3+ marriages standard in America anyway
I know girls my age who are in the process of ending their 2nd marriage already
I don’t think it was as standard back then
Posted by Prince_Pisces
My favs ❤
OMG I forgot ANS ❤️❤️❤️ At least her and Britney only had 2 marriages.
And then Pam has had 4 spouses/partners 🤔🤔
Options.
What used to be a celebrity back in the days is a basic social media attention hoe today.
What used to be a celebrity back in the days is a basic social media attention hoe today.
Posted by tiziani
I'm very interested in this topic, wish you all would have expanded on it.
Any ideas yourself?
It’s so funny to me that Marilyn was considered voluptuous. No ass in that pic.
Posted by DistilledMariska Hargitay was lucky to be alive. Maybe that's why she doesn't seem tragic.
A lot of these celebs married because it gave them a wholesome image, and their higher ups made bank on that image. Twas the times- people as a whole probably could not handle scandals as much. Marriage and divorce was better than what we now call mere dating.
Jayne Mansfield also has a daughter, who does not seem as tragic
Posted by Whorpio.lolPosted by sierra_
paranoia about men marrying them for their image
You think men back then wanted to be associated with uh sexually liberal women, in a conservative time era?click to expand
whaaa?
um. i have really no clue.
i did read somewhere it has to do with their venus /aspects/chart/houses.
http://sasstrology.com/2011/02/black-hole-venus-love-crazy-or-crazy-love.html
or degrees in venus too.
black hole venus.
Posted by Ram416yeah i notice that.Posted by DistilledMariska Hargitay was lucky to be alive. Maybe that's why she doesn't seem tragic.
A lot of these celebs married because it gave them a wholesome image, and their higher ups made bank on that image. Twas the times- people as a whole probably could not handle scandals as much. Marriage and divorce was better than what we now call mere dating.
Jayne Mansfield also has a daughter, who does not seem as tragicclick to expand
if a woman survives, survives rape and torture, abuse, and she's doing well in life, people don't believe that she went through that cause she looks so strong...
i think it's because she went through that that the walls come up and has less trust. she has to be cautious, or it makes her automatically cautious, like a bird ready to fly when first sign of danger.
Posted by tizianiliz taylor married a much younger man..her last husband, 30 years younger i think? .Posted by WhorpioThrowing darts at a board here.... I'd guess one of the big ones is ageing, and growing up out of a bubble. They grow up, they're not the centre of attention as much anymore and it can't be easy at times to adjust.Posted by tiziani
I'm very interested in this topic, wish you all would have expanded on it.
Any ideas yourself?click to expand
was a regular guy...construction worker, almost penniless.
she can't get a young actor who is the cream of the crop like she did when she was at her top game.
so she turns to guys who are just normal guys out there, who are decades younger....
but i wonder...if the younger guy who is just a regular guy out there is fascinated by her "status" as a superstar and bigger than life image, also because she is super wealthy as well.
would that factor in?
but i also notice that regular much younger guys go for much older women who are not wealthy either/....just hard working older women who are cougars and can take care of the younger man.
so it's not wealth that lures them in.
it is the promise of being taken care of..
for some men it is awesome for them.
Posted by sierra_lol
raquel said she and richard burton had a "lot of fun together"
trust me, in virgo talk that is serious sexual commentary
burton was a savvy womanizer.
he had a lot of "fun" with all the beautiful women.
Don Juan, Casanova...
Posted by sierra_Posted by Whorpiomen who don't care about talk like that sure would in any eraPosted by sierra_
paranoia about men marrying them for their image
You think men back then wanted to be associated with uh sexually liberal women, in a conservative time era?
raquel said she felt used by some men, not that she didn't enjoy herself... admittedly lol
jacqueline... coz she gets turned off easily when men develop bad habits when the relationship goes on for some time (lol she is a virgo)
jayne just got bored
marilyn coz she admittedly was selfish
brigitte coz hey she had a hundred lovers..including women
lana coz men are "exciting"
liz taylor is different coz she regretted her marriages, coz she only really loved one man and another dude who died in a plane crash
ursula was in love with a man she could never haveclick to expand
sounds like pisces too. lol i remember Double pisces Cindy Crawford complained of ex husband Virgo sun/libra moon Richard Gere, that he had a bad habit of not remembering what she likes in her morning breakfast or what she likes to drink. it annoyed her. lol
it seemed from that statement that he was serving her.
the long term husband Taurus sun,Aqua moon Randy gere that she's been with forever....
seems like someone she can't mess with. Taurus men can seem like, "Silent but deadly ..."
not in a bad way, but they are very very strong men. (especially for Cindy Crawford's triple pisces status....she needs that strong grounding) Not saying virgo men aren't strong, they are...
but Richard Gere's placements,.....it didnt really make Cindy Crawford happy long term.
i think Gere should get with someone with Aries moon or Aries sun.
edit -- if anyone knows what a taurus man is like ...well you all know what i mean. lol
damn i forget that cindy crawford has 5 stellium pisces...lol that's alot and needs grounding.
https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie/Cindy_Crawford
here's a big list of male and female iconic sex symbols.
https://www.therichest.com/expensive-life style /entertainment/11-most-iconic-sex-symbols-of-all-time/
george clooney and david beckham (two taurus men) are on there...both with capricorn moons. lol
and there's some men under aries, sag and aquarius suns, and the women are different signs too.
https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie/Cindy_Crawford
here's a big list of male and female iconic sex symbols.
https://www.therichest.com/expensive-life style /entertainment/11-most-iconic-sex-symbols-of-all-time/
george clooney and david beckham (two taurus men) are on there...both with capricorn moons. lol
and there's some men under aries, sag and aquarius suns, and the women are different signs too.
Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by Whorpio
How come seemingly most of them had multiple marriages/divorces? Do you think they were unfaithful or maybe they had jealous husbands? Or do you think their husbands cheated too?
My favorite is Jayne Mansfield
Born: April 19, 1933
Marriages: 3
She was said to have had affairs with a shit ton of important people back in her day, and she did cheat on her first husband. I guess that promiscuity led to divorce.
Marilyn Monroe
Born: June 1, 1926
Marriages: 3
She was also known to have affairs with head honchos.
Raquel Welch
Born: September 5, 1940
Marriages: 4
Brigitte Bardot
Born: September 28, 1934
Marriages: 4; Partners: 6
Lana Turner
Born: February 8, 1921
Spouses: 7
Liz Taylor
Born: February 27, 1932
Marriages: 7
Jacqueline Bisset
Born: September 13, 1944
Partners: 5
Ursula Andress
Born: March 19, 1936
4 partners, 1 marriage
Mutables...click to expand
I didn’t even notice that!! 😅😅
Most of these women came from unstable backgrounds and started off as call girls. That part of the story is often left out when you dig deeper into their personal histories. Movie executives used opportunities to control and manipulate them. The casting couch and sleeping your way to the top were real things. This line was said about Marilyn Monroe from one Exec in the business at the time. 'She was so dumb that she didn't know that she didnt have to sleep with the screenwriter.' Being workaholics who often had very little time outside of Hollywood, Execs often married or had serious relationships with these former call girls. So they seem to be doomed to failure when you factor in money, access, and options.
Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by WhorpioPosted by Squishy_Marshmallow
Mutables...
I didn’t even notice that!! 😅😅
I meant it is mostly mutables who are universally acknowledged as sex symbols😝😝😝click to expand
Omg I’m never talking to you again 🙄🙄
Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by WhorpioPosted by Squishy_Marshmallow
I meant it is mostly mutables who are universally acknowledged as sex symbols😝😝😝
Omg I’m never talking to you again 🙄🙄
I'm not making it up!
You can use your Sag placements 🤗🤗🤗click to expand
Well I ammmm mutable dominant... okie 🤗🤗
Posted by sierra_i believe it.Posted by lisabethur8he was rumored to have also been with sophia loren but that's just probably liz taylor paranoiaPosted by sierra_lol
raquel said she and richard burton had a "lot of fun together"
trust me, in virgo talk that is serious sexual commentary
burton was a savvy womanizer.
he had a lot of "fun" with all the beautiful women.
Don Juan, Casanova...
click to expand
he was unfaithful to his first wife remember? and had wild sex with liz taylor in her dressing room while still married. she wanted him to divorce the wife...and he did finally.
I think because of his past upbringing, and high aspirations to do more in life, he wanted to give back to those who taught him and gave him a ladder to success...so he had only to offer his body. (or so the article says)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/liz-taylor-had-sex-with-ronald-reagan-1376416
"And their allegations that Burton sexually assaulted Taylor’s fourth husband Eddie Fisher and had trysts with men throughout their two marriages will stun fans of the one-time golden couple.
The book claims that Taylor – whose scandalous affair with Burton started on the set of their hit movie 1963 Cleopatra – once walked in on him and British actor Peter Lawford in the middle of a sex act.
Taylor, said to have lost her virginity to Lawford in the back of a limo, apparently told them: “Carry on, boys.”
Coalminer’s son Burton is
also quoted as telling Taylor that his drama teacher and mentor Philip Burton, whose surname he took, rescued him from poverty."
he finally settled down later in life...it was late in life, probably with the cancer wife...then divorced her, then later, the last few years of his life with the aquarius.
edit also reading the article..you'll understand why he cant be with liz....she was encouraging him to drink when he didnt want to. he wanted to quit.
you're supposed to help eachother get well...not unwell.
reading that, it makes alot of sense why he took to drinking alot (i wouldnt be surprised if he was an alcoholic) because maybe the judgements of other people that look down on him may do that. i actually feel a little sad for Burton, because poverty is a harsh and terrible thing. And the men that helped him and even women took advantage of that...i mean why can't they jsut help him without using him like that?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/liz-taylor-had-sex-with-ronald-reagan-1376416
“As a young boy, I had only sex to offer him in exchange for all the wonderful things he was doing for me,” he said.
Burton – who was 58 when he died in 1984 – also allegedly told Taylor about “casting couch tumbles” with much older theatrical greats Laurence Olivier, John Gielgud and Noel Coward."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/liz-taylor-had-sex-with-ronald-reagan-1376416
“As a young boy, I had only sex to offer him in exchange for all the wonderful things he was doing for me,” he said.
Burton – who was 58 when he died in 1984 – also allegedly told Taylor about “casting couch tumbles” with much older theatrical greats Laurence Olivier, John Gielgud and Noel Coward."
Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowWas 😆Posted by WhorpioPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by Whorpio
How come seemingly most of them had multiple marriages/divorces? Do you think they were unfaithful or maybe they had jealous husbands? Or do you think their husbands cheated too?
My favorite is Jayne Mansfield
Born: April 19, 1933
Marriages: 3
She was said to have had affairs with a shit ton of important people back in her day, and she did cheat on her first husband. I guess that promiscuity led to divorce.
Marilyn Monroe
Born: June 1, 1926
Marriages: 3
She was also known to have affairs with head honchos.
Raquel Welch
Born: September 5, 1940
Marriages: 4
Brigitte Bardot
Born: September 28, 1934
Marriages: 4; Partners: 6
Lana Turner
Born: February 8, 1921
Spouses: 7
Liz Taylor
Born: February 27, 1932
Marriages: 7
Jacqueline Bisset
Born: September 13, 1944
Partners: 5
Ursula Andress
Born: March 19, 1936
4 partners, 1 marriage
Mutables...
I didn’t even notice that!! 😅😅
I meant it is mostly mutables who are universally acknowledged as sex symbols😝😝😝
click to expand
Posted by sierra_don't recall. i'll have to look it up again.Posted by lisabethur8he really liked that axis lolPosted by sierra_i believe it.Posted by lisabethur8he was rumored to have also been with sophia loren but that's just probably liz taylor paranoiaPosted by sierra_lol
raquel said she and richard burton had a "lot of fun together"
trust me, in virgo talk that is serious sexual commentary
burton was a savvy womanizer.
he had a lot of "fun" with all the beautiful women.
Don Juan, Casanova...
he was unfaithful to his first wife remember? and had wild sex with liz taylor in her dressing room while still married. she wanted him to divorce the wife...and he did finally.
I think because of his past upbringing, and high aspirations to do more in life, he wanted to give back to those who taught him and gave him a ladder to success...so he had only to offer his body. (or so the article says)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/liz-taylor-had-sex-with-ronald-reagan-1376416
"And their allegations that Burton sexually assaulted Taylor’s fourth husband Eddie Fisher and had trysts with men throughout their two marriages will stun fans of the one-time golden couple.
The book claims that Taylor – whose scandalous affair with Burton started on the set of their hit movie 1963 Cleopatra – once walked in on him and British actor Peter Lawford in the middle of a sex act.
Taylor, said to have lost her virginity to Lawford in the back of a limo, apparently told them: “Carry on, boys.”
Coalminer’s son Burton is
also quoted as telling Taylor that his drama teacher and mentor Philip Burton, whose surname he took, rescued him from poverty."
he finally settled down later in life...it was late in life, probably with the cancer wife...then divorced her, then later, the last few years of his life with the aquarius.
raquel and sophia were both virgos and hell even peter lawford was a virgo
liz taylor was of course a pisces
what was the cancer's moon?click to expand
but the aquarius has pisces and virgo. lol
although she is a libra rising and gemini moon.....her venus is in pisces mars in virgo.
but her libra rising goes well with his libra mars. lol
gemini moon gets on well with virgo as long as other aspects go well..
https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Sally_Burton
Posted by sierra_i like both virgo moons and libra mars. lolPosted by lisabethur8i think i'd probably really like him too lolPosted by sierra_don't recall. i'll have to look it up again.Posted by lisabethur8he really liked that axis lolPosted by sierra_i believe it.Posted by lisabethur8he was rumored to have also been with sophia loren but that's just probably liz taylor paranoiaPosted by sierra_lol
raquel said she and richard burton had a "lot of fun together"
trust me, in virgo talk that is serious sexual commentary
burton was a savvy womanizer.
he had a lot of "fun" with all the beautiful women.
Don Juan, Casanova...
he was unfaithful to his first wife remember? and had wild sex with liz taylor in her dressing room while still married. she wanted him to divorce the wife...and he did finally.
I think because of his past upbringing, and high aspirations to do more in life, he wanted to give back to those who taught him and gave him a ladder to success...so he had only to offer his body. (or so the article says)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/liz-taylor-had-sex-with-ronald-reagan-1376416
"And their allegations that Burton sexually assaulted Taylor’s fourth husband Eddie Fisher and had trysts with men throughout their two marriages will stun fans of the one-time golden couple.
The book claims that Taylor – whose scandalous affair with Burton started on the set of their hit movie 1963 Cleopatra – once walked in on him and British actor Peter Lawford in the middle of a sex act.
Taylor, said to have lost her virginity to Lawford in the back of a limo, apparently told them: “Carry on, boys.”
Coalminer’s son Burton is
also quoted as telling Taylor that his drama teacher and mentor Philip Burton, whose surname he took, rescued him from poverty."
he finally settled down later in life...it was late in life, probably with the cancer wife...then divorced her, then later, the last few years of his life with the aquarius.
raquel and sophia were both virgos and hell even peter lawford was a virgo
liz taylor was of course a pisces
what was the cancer's moon?
but the aquarius has pisces and virgo. lol
although she is a libra rising and gemini moon.....her venus is in pisces mars in virgo.
but her libra rising goes well with his libra mars. lol
gemini moon gets on well with virgo as long as other aspects go well..
https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Sally_Burton
i've always found virgo moons super sexual
i don't know why but it's like radiating from themclick to expand
Posted by sierra_Posted by lisabethur8he felt obligated to repay them
reading that, it makes alot of sense why he took to drinking alot (i wouldnt be surprised if he was an alcoholic) because maybe the judgements of other people that look down on him may do that. i actually feel a little sad for Burton, because poverty is a harsh and terrible thing. And the men that helped him and even women took advantage of that...i mean why can't they jsut help him without using him like that?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/liz-taylor-had-sex-with-ronald-reagan-1376416
“As a young boy, I had only sex to offer him in exchange for all the wonderful things he was doing for me,” he said.
Burton – who was 58 when he died in 1984 – also allegedly told Taylor about “casting couch tumbles” with much older theatrical greats Laurence Olivier, John Gielgud and Noel Coward."click to expand
yeah but wish they would have just said, 'boy you can repay me by running some errands and mowing my lawn or something like that'
why does it have to be sex? and i get the feeling he was underaged...so they were disgusting pedos/predators. ugh. i'm reminded of .... kevin spacey again. -_-
also i think that article might be fake. lol i mean ........this is from the article.
"But the story of Burton’s encounter with Eddie Fisher is most shocking.
Amid a drunken row over Taylor, Burton allegedly told singer Fisher: “You can take it willingly, like a man, or else. Either way, you’re going to get it. Your choice.”
Taylor’s PA Dick Hanley told the authors that Fisher looked like “an abused, defeated man who might surrender to anything”. He claimed the men spent two hours upstairs before Burton re-emerged.
He then returned to Taylor, who was sleeping at a friend’s apartment, and bragged about what he’d done".
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/liz-taylor-had-sex-with-ronald-reagan-1376416
that's almost...comedy. 😕
and liz taylor trying to seduce the former president ronald reagan back in the day when he was getting into the film industry?? lmao it read like she was trying to seduce a little boy (even though reagan was a young adult male)
that liz.. 😛
she knew how to use that beauty and charm.
that liz.. 😛
she knew how to use that beauty and charm.
Posted by sierra_lol no it's the situation. Imagining.... eddie fisher who was married to debbie reynolds...looking defeated abused and following like a puppy....Posted by lisabethur8he did brag about banging liz in an automobile so.. i don't knowPosted by sierra_Posted by lisabethur8he felt obligated to repay them
reading that, it makes alot of sense why he took to drinking alot (i wouldnt be surprised if he was an alcoholic) because maybe the judgements of other people that look down on him may do that. i actually feel a little sad for Burton, because poverty is a harsh and terrible thing. And the men that helped him and even women took advantage of that...i mean why can't they jsut help him without using him like that?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/liz-taylor-had-sex-with-ronald-reagan-1376416
“As a young boy, I had only sex to offer him in exchange for all the wonderful things he was doing for me,” he said.
Burton – who was 58 when he died in 1984 – also allegedly told Taylor about “casting couch tumbles” with much older theatrical greats Laurence Olivier, John Gielgud and Noel Coward."
yeah but wish they would have just said, 'boy you can repay me by running some errands and mowing my lawn or something like that'
why does it have to be sex? and i get the feeling he was underaged...so they were disgusting pedos/predators. ugh. i'm reminded of .... kevin spacey again. -_-
also i think that article might be fake. lol i mean ........this is from the article.
"But the story of Burton’s encounter with Eddie Fisher is most shocking.
Amid a drunken row over Taylor, Burton allegedly told singer Fisher: “You can take it willingly, like a man, or else. Either way, you’re going to get it. Your choice.”
Taylor’s PA Dick Hanley told the authors that Fisher looked like “an abused, defeated man who might surrender to anything”. He claimed the men spent two hours upstairs before Burton re-emerged.
He then returned to Taylor, who was sleeping at a friend’s apartment, and bragged about what he’d done".
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/liz-taylor-had-sex-with-ronald-reagan-1376416
that's almost...comedy. 😕
click to expand
it's as if the article is a joke. lmao
but yeah i guess sooo...
it just sounds like a bad fanfiction lol
eddie fisher and liz taylor here...
Posted by sierra_i'm this..
@lisabethur8
do you have earth venus and mars?
Venus in Water, Mars in Earth (Romantic Water, Earthy Desires): You are dependable, loving, and solid in your romantic involvements. You take care of the person you love, and you are generally quite loyal and committed once your heart has been won. Very sexual, you have strong needs for physical expression of love. You feel most loved with physical proof of commitment, and you work hard at making your relationships work on a physical and practical level. You require, more than most, physical presence, steadiness, reliability, and comfort in your relationships. You are concerned about your partners’ emotions, and your expression of affection feels solid and very cozy. You are not the most communicative of lovers, however. Oftentimes, you expect your partner to intuit what you need rather than request it outright. You are serious about love, and you are not one to take a relationship lightly or to throw it away without first doing what you can to make it work
from
https://cafeastrology.com/articles
Venus in Earth, Mars in Air (Romantic Earth, Airy Desires): Although a healthy relationship for you is a stable and secure one, on a sexual level you crave variety and freedom. In some ways, you are a dependable and stable lover. Other times, you can be aloof. This can certainly confuse your partners, who dont know what they can expect. You keep them guessing, whether you want to or not! Sometimes, they know they can count on you, but just when they think they have you “pegged”, you surprise them. You need a lover who is interesting and intellectual, but also one who can be trusted. Loyalty is important to you, even though you can be quite flirtatious at times. You can be possessive from time to time, but you need space and freedom as well. If a lover can forgive this seeming inconsistency, you are a fun partner who has the ability to stay for the long haul. Pleasing you involves proof of loyalty and commitment, as well as giving you freedom to do your own thing. You tend to fall in love apprehensively. You are both a private person and a people person. This dichotomy may be confusing for a partner, and even for you at times! A sense of security and stability feeds your romantic spirit, and intellectual stimulation turns you on. You are both supportive and surprising as a companion. Thoughtful, kind, and interesting, you are “good company”. A sensitive partner may find you hard to reach at times. You are certainly versatile, but you are also capable of great practicality when its needed most. You bring both playfulness and commonsense to a relationship.
--
although i dont agree with everything. and the earth/earth one is all about sex, like sex is the only thing that drives the two...sheesh..
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Marriages: 7
Jacqueline Bisset
Born: September 13, 1944
Partners: 5
Ursula Andress
Born: March 19, 1936
4 partners, 1 marriage