which do you prefer?

Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428
@ParisianCappy- Is this Frenchi?

In the long run it could help out big time and lot less stress if you are compatible and everything is going great. And I'm old fashioned whole 50/50. 7th house in Capricorn too.

Why what are you going for?

Posted by PV&Jellay

Posted by lisabethur8
for ladies, generally, but men can answer too.

again, this comes up with man's profession because women seem to enjoy abuse/cheating in a relationship if the man is a president of a company or owns his multi-billionaire company.

like the story of Steve Jobs. He cheats on his wife and his wife benefits even though he has a mistress.

at least with Arnold Schwarzzenneger, his wife wouldn't stand for it. it was pure deception of having a mistress all those years and a grown child.

so which would you prefer and be honest

1) man who is unemployed, but is able to take care of home/children/your needs.

2) man who can work but not a highly paid job, only a minimum wage job and still is able to spend quality time with you and is compatible too.

3) a wealthy rich fucker who will give you security and all your needs and will never make you poor, you have everything you need and he is incompatible and he cheats and has mistresses all over the world but as long as you are there to give him his heirs you're ok with it and turn the other cheek.

4) a very ambitious man who is also on his way to wealth, and is semi- wealthy and you are incompatible with him and fight all the time, and are miserable and he has female friends all the time that he spends time with more than you.

anyone else can add.

If these were my only options, then I will just stay single.

What I would prefer is someone who makes more than minimum wage. He doesn't have to be wealthy, but damn if I want to be broke. I want him to have career aspirations because I think a person should be passionate about what they do. But not a workaholic. I want him married to me, not his job. And quality time is veryimportant to me, so I like to do things together.

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Posted by lisabethur8
some men have career aspirations but they have bad luck in finding employment or anyone to help them. but they are trying hard. would you rather just stay single then?

edit - basically I've come to the conclusion that there are many men out there that just can't find good work and are not ambitious.

it's hard on them.

in today's world and competition, there's a lot of men who are just trying hard.

I guess this is partially due to why people are not getting married these days maybe.

they are dissatisfied with the results of the men, due to their economic status a lot of times.

Love don't pay the bills.

Yes, there are good men who are struggling financially. For what ever reason they are not able to find gainful employment. There are plenty of women in the same situation who they can date.

Men or women who have no ambition aren't really compatible with anyone. They should stay single and die alone. Who wants to work hard and be with someone just coasting through life and making no effort to better themself.

Edit: To be clear ambition isn't just about making money. It's about having dreams and goals for yourself you want to accomplish.

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Posted by wagtail
Hmmmm good topic:

I'd go with 1 or 2...

Partly because it just seems more realistic. I don't run into wealthy men all that often lol

But even then I'd take home life, time invested and emotional or sexual compatibility any day.

Life style s can be had without money in my personal view.

I wanna be living off grid and sustainably ASAP so a bloke who can work with that suits meh rather than a 9-5 money maker 😎

If he can barter or trade skills or food we grow, repair our home and fix a vehicle that can run during an EMP for example - fish hunt and gather with me $ $ $ is no longer a requirement 🙂

BUT alternatively in my current situation a man who is employed at least able to cover his own bills etc is very appreciated.

And so underlying all that is hopefully, cheating doesn't become a factor in my relationship either @_@

Hopefully. I don't like sharing and I don't want to share myself

Posted by ElleDuMonde
what if I don't want or think about any of that?

tbh, I don't even know what the cap really does for his career. I have an idea but I don't really care to pry. He shares about his day and he asks me about mine.

He has a place to live, takes care of his children, has great hygiene, takes care of himself, has a vehicle...doesn't need anything from me financially.

I also am the same.

Why can't that be enough?

If I want to do something...I have the means to pay for it.

If he wants to do something...he has the means to pay for it.

This entire concept and choices that you made available are completely foreign to me.

Posted by RumiL
From the options, 2..

But I just want one who is passionate about his work! 🙂 I dont mind workaholics...like if he brings home his work. I just need to see him everyday for dinner. 😢 ..and spend time with our child. I can manage myself...but if our child wouldn't get enough time from him, he will see what a Scorpio moon mother with a cancer rising is like ?

Posted by lisabethur8
for ladies, generally, but men can answer too.

again, this comes up with man's profession because women seem to enjoy abuse/cheating in a relationship if the man is a president of a company or owns his multi-billionaire company.

like the story of Steve Jobs. He cheats on his wife and his wife benefits even though he has a mistress.

at least with Arnold Schwarzzenneger, his wife wouldn't stand for it. it was pure deception of having a mistress all those years and a grown child.

so which would you prefer and be honest

1) man who is unemployed, but is able to take care of home/children/your needs.

2) man who can work but not a highly paid job, only a minimum wage job and still is able to spend quality time with you and is compatible too.

3) a wealthy rich fucker who will give you security and all your needs and will never make you poor, you have everything you need and he is incompatible and he cheats and has mistresses all over the world but as long as you are there to give him his heirs you're ok with it and turn the other cheek.

4) a very ambitious man who is also on his way to wealth, and is semi- wealthy and you are incompatible with him and fight all the time, and are miserable and he has female friends all the time that he spends time with more than you.

anyone else can add.

Posted by hydorah
most women will answer 2, but in reality they'll go with 3 or 4 lol

Posted by ElleDuMonde

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by ElleDuMonde
what if I don't want or think about any of that?

tbh, I don't even know what the cap really does for his career. I have an idea but I don't really care to pry. He shares about his day and he asks me about mine.

He has a place to live, takes care of his children, has great hygiene, takes care of himself, has a vehicle...doesn't need anything from me financially.

I also am the same.

Why can't that be enough?

If I want to do something...I have the means to pay for it.

If he wants to do something...he has the means to pay for it.

This entire concept and choices that you made available are completely foreign to me.

thanks for your input, but it was basically spurred on by how others in life perceive other people's relationships and judge them for it.

for example, my sister's relationships and my cousins. I don't care either way because I know they are happy in their situation, but for many who have strong ambitions for them, it is a detriment in their eyes or something.

and also from other relationships I have seen/heard where women remain in relationships, such as no. 3, 4.

and that's great that you don't have those worries with your man.

I only have one cousin that's been married for almost 20 years....and I still don't know what her husband does....lol.

I just don't concern myself with others that much.

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Posted by lisabethur8
for ladies, generally, but men can answer too.

again, this comes up with man's profession because women seem to enjoy abuse/cheating in a relationship if the man is a president of a company or owns his multi-billionaire company.

like the story of Steve Jobs. He cheats on his wife and his wife benefits even though he has a mistress.

at least with Arnold Schwarzzenneger, his wife wouldn't stand for it. it was pure deception of having a mistress all those years and a grown child.

so which would you prefer and be honest

1) man who is unemployed, but is able to take care of home/children/your needs.

2) man who can work but not a highly paid job, only a minimum wage job and still is able to spend quality time with you and is compatible too.

3) a wealthy rich fucker who will give you security and all your needs and will never make you poor, you have everything you need and he is incompatible and he cheats and has mistresses all over the world but as long as you are there to give him his heirs you're ok with it and turn the other cheek.

4) a very ambitious man who is also on his way to wealth, and is semi- wealthy and you are incompatible with him and fight all the time, and are miserable and he has female friends all the time that he spends time with more than you.

anyone else can add.

I am #3 , in case anybody is wondering

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Posted by lisabethur8
for ladies, generally, but men can answer too.

again, this comes up with man's profession because women seem to enjoy abuse/cheating in a relationship if the man is a president of a company or owns his multi-billionaire company.

like the story of Steve Jobs. He cheats on his wife and his wife benefits even though he has a mistress.

at least with Arnold Schwarzzenneger, his wife wouldn't stand for it. it was pure deception of having a mistress all those years and a grown child.

so which would you prefer and be honest

1) man who is unemployed, but is able to take care of home/children/your needs.

2) man who can work but not a highly paid job, only a minimum wage job and still is able to spend quality time with you and is compatible too.

3) a wealthy rich fucker who will give you security and all your needs and will never make you poor, you have everything you need and he is incompatible and he cheats and has mistresses all over the world but as long as you are there to give him his heirs you're ok with it and turn the other cheek.

4) a very ambitious man who is also on his way to wealth, and is semi- wealthy and you are incompatible with him and fight all the time, and are miserable and he has female friends all the time that he spends time with more than you.

anyone else can add.

Your missing one

A man who makes equal as you , is loyal n loving

Sees u as an equal n knows u don't take crap. This works on the relationship

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u have to be a certain "personality" or certain attributes to your soul/karma. due to their upbringing.

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Posted by hydorah
most women will answer 2, but in reality they'll go with 3 or 4 lol

Eh. I've dated above my station and ended it because I felt more like an object to them than a person. Fuck that. I was also married to a guy that was a #1 and, had he actually focused on the kids and the house, I'd have been fine with that. There's just only so long a person wants to work their 40 and then do all the cooking and cleaning too while the other person sits at home all day. The Boy's a #2 and I couldn't be happier. Granted he's a bartender so, while he technically makes min. wage, he actually makes about as much as I do. Lisabeth might cry fowl on that one.

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I have no idea of bartenders. lol

but I've never been attracted to bartenders or guys who want to go to bars a lot.

my husband has a childhood buddy who owns a bar/café though. He is never home, and lets other people manage his bar/café.

he is on his 6th woman (he is into traveling and likes to meet foreign women) but the foreign women who he takes home get homesick and don't like him after awhile and go back home. The last one that did that, was from Mexican descent and she returned home to Mexico. He was devastated. but picked up the pieces and went back to traveling and met another foreign woman.

my husband told me this and I was like, thinking....he sounds so 9th house themes. lol

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Posted by lisabethur8
basically you have to be a certain "personality" or certain attributes to your soul/karma. due to their upbringing.

Posted by cheekyfaerie

Posted by hydorah
most women will answer 2, but in reality they'll go with 3 or 4 lol

Eh. I've dated above my station and ended it because I felt more like an object to them than a person. Fuck that. I was also married to a guy that was a #1 and, had he actually focused on the kids and the house, I'd have been fine with that. There's just only so long a person wants to work their 40 and then do all the cooking and cleaning too while the other person sits at home all day. The Boy's a #2 and I couldn't be happier. Granted he's a bartender so, while he technically makes min. wage, he actually makes about as much as I do. Lisabeth might cry fowl on that one.

I have no idea of bartenders. lol

but I've never been attracted to bartenders or guys who want to go to bars a lot.

my husband has a childhood buddy who owns a bar/café though. He is never home, and lets other people manage his bar/café.

he is on his 6th woman (he is into traveling and likes to meet foreign women) but the foreign women who he takes home get homesick and don't like him after awhile and go back home. The last one that did that, was from Mexican descent and she returned home to Mexico. He was devastated. but picked up the pieces and went back to traveling and met another foreign woman.

my husband told me this and I was like, thinking....he sounds so 9th house themes. lol

It's the best job in the service industry. Great line of work for people that like to work with their hands, have nervous energy, are night owls and enjoy interacting with the public. As long as you're smart and invest in your retirement, anyway. I can't believe someone as salt of the earth as you claim to be would thumb their nose at hard working people.

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Posted by Ellycakes
Motivation and *intentions are the real factors.

Money and security is nice. It appeals to my Scorpio. And my cancer too. And I'm a more luxury prone spender, so I need to be with someone who is the same. Not a penny pincher. Someone who likes to get or, spend and enjoy their money. At the same time I do need to be a little more thrifty. My ex scorp was a good combo of the two.

I'm not sure if pick any of those men though. They don't have to be rich. But they should have something they want that motivates them. I don't connect well with the nomad types that have no goals or specific desires. They're fun for a minute but I need a more concrete partner.

Sleeping around could be a negotiable though. I wouldn't be opposed to being in a power couple and having an open relationship honestly. As long as I am wifed and made the priority and I have free reign to date around as I please as well I could do it. Not saying it's my goal in a relationship lol, but I can see how it's a useful idea to preserving a long term commitment.

But most men I've met don't like that idea. Lol. The ones that don't support monogamy in marriage like exclusivity for their wives. But not themselves as husbands.

*Edit to Add: idk what work I originally typed to get autocorrect to turn it to loveliness but that is not it. 😆

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Posted by wagtail
Hmmmm good topic:

I'd go with 1 or 2...

Partly because it just seems more realistic. I don't run into wealthy men all that often lol

But even then I'd take home life, time invested and emotional or sexual compatibility any day.

Life style s can be had without money in my personal view.

I wanna be living off grid and sustainably ASAP so a bloke who can work with that suits meh rather than a 9-5 money maker 😎

If he can barter or trade skills or food we grow, repair our home and fix a vehicle that can run during an EMP for example - fish hunt and gather with me $ $ $ is no longer a requirement 🙂

BUT alternatively in my current situation a man who is employed at least able to cover his own bills etc is very appreciated.

And so underlying all that is hopefully, cheating doesn't become a factor in my relationship either @_@

Hopefully. I don't like sharing and I don't want to share myself

Totally on the same page as you!!! Good answer!

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Posted by Ellycakes


oh you have a Gemini mars/ venus scorpio so you'd need a deep type of guy with nervous energy too!

more communicative and fast. smart and witty!!

it's tricky! you need to find one who wants commitment but is all over the place (kind of)

and oh you don't mind open relationships?? O__O that might be something else in your chart.

I wouldn't want that.

Yeah I'm a relationship paradox lol. My Mars is inconjunct my stellium and has that messy quincunx energy that makes it hard for people to understand me in relationships. I'm needy but fiercely independent. Want to snuggle up inside your soul and practically own it but be free to go spend a weekend off with the girls and not talk to you once. Warm and friendly and but can be so cold and reserved if emotionally compromised. It's the great joys of water and air. All my water placements are in air houses too.

I wouldn't mind open relationships. But at the same time it's not a goal. Honestly it depends on the partner. Some partners I've had I could 'share' and wouldn't get jealous. Others I would start sawing body parts if a woman that spoke to them below a certain pitch lol. As I'm coming in to my gem Mars a bit more, I'm finding my sexuality and boundaries in relationships are more adventurous and flexible but highly partner dependent. How I feel about one and what I want with them is never the same as with another.

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I've got a water in fire houses, and vice versa, but I've got dominant earth, so I'm definitely noticing a trend. My sisters are Scorpio Venus/Aries mars, and Pisces Mars/Aqua venus. they need a commitment, deep relationship but that's because they are also 8th house/7th housers.

well I hope you do find your happy medium, Elly!!!

Posted by CopperDove
So far I haven't met any men who are very wealthy who I feel attraction to. There has always been a vibe/attitude that conflicts with my values. There I'm sure are exceptions, I just haven't encountered that yet.

In high school, I had a friend who dated a guy who was set to inherit something like 10 million dollars in his early 20s. His family was a mess - lots of neglect thanks to the parents not really parenting and instead leaving that to servants because money was more important to them than human relationships.

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Also I almost forgot.

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Posted by lisabethur8
@cheakyfairie, no no it's cool you like him, i'm here for observations on astrology and why we choose the men we choose too! it's an awesome study.

there's nothing wrong with what profession he chooses. Sheesh. *smh*

besides why would he or any bartender care if I don't like it? i'm already TAKEN. lol

Your thinking is incredibly narrow sometimes.

My fascination is with you attaching personalities to professions. That and you basically insinuated it's a trashy profession, thereby saying I'm trashier than you for being attracted to one person out of millions employed in it. Maybe I'm paranoid, but it seems our interactions lately have revolved around you taking digs at me. To avoid confusion, I'll avoid your threads in future.

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Posted by lisabethur8
@cheakyfairie, no no it's cool you like him, i'm here for observations on astrology and why we choose the men we choose too! it's an awesome study.

there's nothing wrong with what profession he chooses. Sheesh. *smh*

besides why would he or any bartender care if I don't like it? i'm already TAKEN. lol

Your thinking is incredibly narrow sometimes.

My fascination is with you attaching personalities to professions. That and you basically insinuated it's a trashy profession, thereby saying I'm trashier than you for being attracted to one person out of millions employed in it. Maybe I'm paranoid, but it seems our interactions lately have revolved around you taking digs at me. To avoid confusion, I'll avoid your threads in future.

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Posted by CopperDove
I know a couple that is #1.

It works quite well for them, except that the husband sometimes is thought of as not working by people who don't respect that kind of arrangement. Untrue, he works pretty much all day with maintaining the household and taking care of the kids.

The wife is involved with the kids too, but the cleaning and cooking isn't something that she likes to do so her husband handles that and is better at it anyway.

The wife has her own business and she works full time, from home. The income allows them to have a stable life style .

The husband is also a political activist so he does work in that way as well, it just isn't paid work.

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Posted by CopperDove
So far I haven't met any men who are very wealthy who I feel attraction to. There has always been a vibe/attitude that conflicts with my values. There I'm sure are exceptions, I just haven't encountered that yet.

In high school, I had a friend who dated a guy who was set to inherit something like 10 million dollars in his early 20s. His family was a mess - lots of neglect thanks to the parents not really parenting and instead leaving that to servants because money was more important to them than human relationships.

I honestly think the "energies" of the chart /houses really matter.

I don't know why...but I used to always meet a lot of WEALTHY affluential men. I didn't understand why. And they were also sensitive souls too.

but I wasn't attracted to them either. I needed more depth and more understanding, kindness but never lost his bad boy vibe.

the high school experience you have sounds like my Pisces ex husband with leo moon. he was always inheriting a lot of money, but that weakened him in my opinion. He never got enough support because his father wasn't always around (his father is a MENSA group genius and a scientist...so scientists are never around) true story. I like that I can share this with you all, astrology lovers.

he didn't really leave it servants kind of thing, he was more into the biker scene, and relied a lot on the money inheritance that was naturally given him. Money will make you weak if parents give it to you without discipline I have learned.

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Posted by CopperDove
I know a couple that is #1.

It works quite well for them, except that the husband sometimes is thought of as not working by people who don't respect that kind of arrangement. Untrue, he works pretty much all day with maintaining the household and taking care of the kids.

The wife is involved with the kids too, but the cleaning and cooking isn't something that she likes to do so her husband handles that and is better at it anyway.

The wife has her own business and she works full time, from home. The income allows them to have a stable life style .

The husband is also a political activist so he does work in that way as well, it just isn't paid work.

I like this. they sound very very happy. that's all that matters.

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