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Posted by Ixi
The Virgo women will likely be a better source of insight. As a Virgo guy, I mean its a tough call.
You committed the cardinal sin of seeming shaky, flaky, doubtful. The fact there is another guy in the wings isn't necessarily an issue...but the fact that she states plainly that "you dumped her" and more generally that she is willing to tell you what she is doing with another man doesn't bode well (yea sure it can be a sign that she "trusts" you but honestly...when a woman (any sign) shares that it is usually because she isn't taking connection with you super seriously).
I'd say here your best chance of making this particular wheel turn is to be honest and direct about your affections but not pushy and aggressive and make sure not to accept nor offer a situationship. You may lose her as a result...but better to lose her than to get into gameplaying mode and end up frustrated and hurting.

Posted by IxiPosted by saggurl88Posted by Ixi
The Virgo women will likely be a better source of insight. As a Virgo guy, I mean its a tough call.
You committed the cardinal sin of seeming shaky, flaky, doubtful. The fact there is another guy in the wings isn't necessarily an issue...but the fact that she states plainly that "you dumped her" and more generally that she is willing to tell you what she is doing with another man doesn't bode well (yea sure it can be a sign that she "trusts" you but honestly...when a woman (any sign) shares that it is usually because she isn't taking connection with you super seriously).
I'd say here your best chance of making this particular wheel turn is to be honest and direct about your affections but not pushy and aggressive and make sure not to accept nor offer a situationship. You may lose her as a result...but better to lose her than to get into gameplaying mode and end up frustrated and hurting.
You have been SOLID with the advice!!!! WOW!!! Nice words!
I still occasionally give advice when the person asking for advice is serious about being helped lol.click to expand



Posted by IxiPosted by LadyNeptune
Wow she admits her feelings and you go ghost for 2 weeks. Ouch. I know that wasn’t your intent but that’s how it was received.
Also you could’ve wrapped up loose ends with your ex while still remaining in communication with the Virgo. There was no reason to go cold on her.
I’d be shocked if she starts things back up with you. Women in general don’t do good with rejection.
Yea to add on...that 2-week no-contact thing... I get why you may have needed to do it...but you will likely need to address that particular bit of discomfort...especially since it occurred at a vulnerable point.click to expand

Posted by geminiflyby
I dunno. I think he should let her run her course with the Pisces. I don't think he's gonna be around long term.


Posted by Lostthoughts
Lol she is being really honest and open with you about her situation and what she is doing. Without a doubt, she is leaving the door open for you to step up.
Sure it may have been mutual, but it sounds like she is being cautious about investing anything into you after that, understandable considering YOU going no contact for 2 weeks. Yes it's a double standard with woman sometimes but it is what it is.
Are you up for upgrading from "seeing" to exclusive dating as, in the title boyfriend and girlfriend?

Posted by nats
Oh wait after I said good morning and before she sent the flowers pic she said "we're still on for tonight, be at mine at 830, hope you're coming with flowers" then we agreed the time THEN she sent the pic.. sorry forgot to add that in above. Clearly she wants me to play the game, step up, take my woman and be in charge! But I did not like her sending that photo. Makes me feel played and stupid..




Posted by IxiPosted by nats
Oh wait after I said good morning and before she sent the flowers pic she said "we're still on for tonight, be at mine at 830, hope you're coming with flowers" then we agreed the time THEN she sent the pic.. sorry forgot to add that in above. Clearly she wants me to play the game, step up, take my woman and be in charge! But I did not like her sending that photo. Makes me feel played and stupid..
I think that is a valid feeling, all things considered. If I were in your situation, I would extend grace to her for the misstep, go through the paces to just make it clear you don't like being dug at.
Also, while you've expressed she seems intent on engaging in a meaningful way, I surely wouldn't be quick to forget that she displayed vindictiveness when she felt wronged. It's not cancel-worthy in and of itself, but it is a flag to take note of.click to expand

Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by natsPosted by Lostthoughts
Lol she is being really honest and open with you about her situation and what she is doing. Without a doubt, she is leaving the door open for you to step up.
Sure it may have been mutual, but it sounds like she is being cautious about investing anything into you after that, understandable considering YOU going no contact for 2 weeks. Yes it's a double standard with woman sometimes but it is what it is.
Are you up for upgrading from "seeing" to exclusive dating as, in the title boyfriend and girlfriend?
- I think we'd just be dating but not really seeing other people
weren’t you just talking about a sag that you’re interested in like 3 days ago? Did you change your mind about her?
What is your sign?click to expand

Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by ImperfectStormPosted by natsPosted by Lostthoughts
Lol she is being really honest and open with you about her situation and what she is doing. Without a doubt, she is leaving the door open for you to step up.
Sure it may have been mutual, but it sounds like she is being cautious about investing anything into you after that, understandable considering YOU going no contact for 2 weeks. Yes it's a double standard with woman sometimes but it is what it is.
Are you up for upgrading from "seeing" to exclusive dating as, in the title boyfriend and girlfriend?
- I think we'd just be dating but not really seeing other people
weren’t you just talking about a sag that you’re interested in like 3 days ago? Did you change your mind about her?
What is your sign?
gemini
i wonder what his moon isclick to expand

Posted by saggurl88Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by ImperfectStormPosted by natsPosted by Lostthoughts
Lol she is being really honest and open with you about her situation and what she is doing. Without a doubt, she is leaving the door open for you to step up.
Sure it may have been mutual, but it sounds like she is being cautious about investing anything into you after that, understandable considering YOU going no contact for 2 weeks. Yes it's a double standard with woman sometimes but it is what it is.
Are you up for upgrading from "seeing" to exclusive dating as, in the title boyfriend and girlfriend?
- I think we'd just be dating but not really seeing other people
weren’t you just talking about a sag that you’re interested in like 3 days ago? Did you change your mind about her?
What is your sign?
gemini
i wonder what his moon is
Libraclick to expand
Posted by Hypnotoad
Bring a bunch of feather dusters and cleaning utensils wraped up in a bouquet and tell her to clean her act up.
Posted by Hypnotoad
Bring a bunch of feather dusters and cleaning utensils wraped up in a bouquet and tell her to clean her act up.
Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by natsPosted by Lostthoughts
Lol she is being really honest and open with you about her situation and what she is doing. Without a doubt, she is leaving the door open for you to step up.
Sure it may have been mutual, but it sounds like she is being cautious about investing anything into you after that, understandable considering YOU going no contact for 2 weeks. Yes it's a double standard with woman sometimes but it is what it is.
Are you up for upgrading from "seeing" to exclusive dating as, in the title boyfriend and girlfriend?
- I think we'd just be dating but not really seeing other people
weren’t you just talking about a sag that you’re interested in like 3 days ago? Did you change your mind about her?
What is your sign?click to expand


Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by saggurl88Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by ImperfectStormPosted by natsPosted by Lostthoughts
Lol she is being really honest and open with you about her situation and what she is doing. Without a doubt, she is leaving the door open for you to step up.
Sure it may have been mutual, but it sounds like she is being cautious about investing anything into you after that, understandable considering YOU going no contact for 2 weeks. Yes it's a double standard with woman sometimes but it is what it is.
Are you up for upgrading from "seeing" to exclusive dating as, in the title boyfriend and girlfriend?
- I think we'd just be dating but not really seeing other people
weren’t you just talking about a sag that you’re interested in like 3 days ago? Did you change your mind about her?
What is your sign?
gemini
i wonder what his moon is
Libra
he seems to like firey women.
i'm not sure if they'd be good together. virgos can be bratty, especially with that combo. but it's not always how we are. i feel in this case as if he'd be better off with that sag and he should leave her with that pisces.
mehhh we'll recover somehow.click to expand


Posted by nats
@saggurl88 - I like the way you think haha. You're right also. Dating is not exclusive and yes Sag is barely around (unfortunately) so keeping my options open and seeing how this Virgo pans out. The Virgo is definitely demanding and has high expectations. Waaaayyy more compared to the Sag. Sag is so chill that its confusing and makes me a little uneasy because I can't tell if she's interested or just being friendly. I will contact Sag once she's back from her weekend away. I will drop her a Happy Birthday text on 4th Dec though which her bday but leave it at that.
Posted by DMV
Virgo said that she was in love with you but slept with someone else in 2 weeks?
Posted by saggurl88Posted by nats
@saggurl88 - I like the way you think haha. You're right also. Dating is not exclusive and yes Sag is barely around (unfortunately) so keeping my options open and seeing how this Virgo pans out. The Virgo is definitely demanding and has high expectations. Waaaayyy more compared to the Sag. Sag is so chill that its confusing and makes me a little uneasy because I can't tell if she's interested or just being friendly. I will contact Sag once she's back from her weekend away. I will drop her a Happy Birthday text on 4th Dec though which her bday but leave it at that.
Dating is all about supply and demand! You snooze, you loose! Lol
The Sag is busy but it will give you time with the Virgo to get to know her and see if you like how she handles things.
I dated a Virgo sun/Cancer Moon/Virgo Venus. His games ended up being a turn off for me so I was dating others.
But he experience was still great.
There isn’t a rush to the finish line. Take your time and get to know them and see how it goes for you.
Good luckclick to expand

Posted by natsPosted by saggurl88Posted by nats
@saggurl88 - I like the way you think haha. You're right also. Dating is not exclusive and yes Sag is barely around (unfortunately) so keeping my options open and seeing how this Virgo pans out. The Virgo is definitely demanding and has high expectations. Waaaayyy more compared to the Sag. Sag is so chill that its confusing and makes me a little uneasy because I can't tell if she's interested or just being friendly. I will contact Sag once she's back from her weekend away. I will drop her a Happy Birthday text on 4th Dec though which her bday but leave it at that.
Dating is all about supply and demand! You snooze, you loose! Lol
The Sag is busy but it will give you time with the Virgo to get to know her and see if you like how she handles things.
I dated a Virgo sun/Cancer Moon/Virgo Venus. His games ended up being a turn off for me so I was dating others.
But he experience was still great.
There isn’t a rush to the finish line. Take your time and get to know them and see how it goes for you.
Good luck
While I'm at it - what do I do with the Sag? Just wait? Contact her next week once she's back from her bday weekend get away? May as well ask now since I've got your attention here.. 🙂click to expand

Posted by natsPosted by Lostthoughts
Lol she is being really honest and open with you about her situation and what she is doing. Without a doubt, she is leaving the door open for you to step up.
Sure it may have been mutual, but it sounds like she is being cautious about investing anything into you after that, understandable considering YOU going no contact for 2 weeks. Yes it's a double standard with woman sometimes but it is what it is.
Are you up for upgrading from "seeing" to exclusive dating as, in the title boyfriend and girlfriend?
I know she wants to date. She's told me several times she's ready to open her heart and be serious with someone but she's also worried and hesitant because she's leaving (now in) April. I am also leaving to Europe but in late May/June so I know we'll definitely be meeting up once we're there. For now - I think we'd just be dating but not really seeing other people but also not a full blown commitment. I'm not sure. Its something her and I need to discuss. Also - its summer coming up and we're both going to want to party etc so who knows. Yep its a discussion we need to have openlyclick to expand

Posted by Sunsetvirgo
Gemmminiiii? 😗 Interesting. May I ask what you like about her? Other than her pettiness right now lol. I ask because I am never really romantically inclined to air signs, it’s more of a “great friend” feeling than anything.

Posted by natsPosted by Sunsetvirgo
Gemmminiiii? 😗 Interesting. May I ask what you like about her? Other than her pettiness right now lol. I ask because I am never really romantically inclined to air signs, it’s more of a “great friend” feeling than anything.
Lol definitely not loving the pettiness. So I obviously like her beauty. Yes I am shallow and yes I love beautiful women. Can't blame me. I like her intelligence, her humour, her openness in discussions and with her wants/needs/likes. I like that she's blunt, I like that she's honest. I like that she's sexual and has no issues with openly discussing sex and sexual related topics. I like that she's sexually submissive and lets someone take control and make her theirs in that department. I like that she's active, she's adventurous, she's clued on, we can banter back and forth. She's hard working and focused, she gets things done, she doesnt just "talk". She makes moves. I like that she's sensitive but hides it and it's kind of just sitting on the surface and I find it really cute like I want to love her and protect her but also punch her at the same time.. lol. I like that she's direct and tells me what she wants or how she feels whether its face to face or over text if she's too shy... theres a few things so far..click to expand


Posted by IxiPosted by Sunsetvirgo
why am I crying in the club rn 😭
Idk...Why ARE you crying in a club rn?click to expand
Posted by nats
Oh wait after I said good morning and before she sent the flowers pic she said "we're still on for tonight, be at mine at 830, hope you're coming with flowers" then we agreed the time THEN she sent the pic.. sorry forgot to add that in above. Clearly she wants me to play the game, step up, take my woman and be in charge! But I did not like her sending that photo. Makes me feel played and stupid..

Posted by nats
I like that she's close with her family. I like how she is with me physically. When we've been snuggling I like that she likes to touch me.. my ex who is a pisces wasn't a very touchy person. I always had to initiate it. With this Virgo, she's touchy, she has no hesitation to touch me and feel me and having a venus and mars in cancer - I love to touch and I love skin on skin.

Posted by saggurl88Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by saggurl88Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by ImperfectStormPosted by natsPosted by Lostthoughts
Lol she is being really honest and open with you about her situation and what she is doing. Without a doubt, she is leaving the door open for you to step up.
Sure it may have been mutual, but it sounds like she is being cautious about investing anything into you after that, understandable considering YOU going no contact for 2 weeks. Yes it's a double standard with woman sometimes but it is what it is.
Are you up for upgrading from "seeing" to exclusive dating as, in the title boyfriend and girlfriend?
- I think we'd just be dating but not really seeing other people
weren’t you just talking about a sag that you’re interested in like 3 days ago? Did you change your mind about her?
What is your sign?
gemini
i wonder what his moon is
Libra
he seems to like firey women.
i'm not sure if they'd be good together. virgos can be bratty, especially with that combo. but it's not always how we are. i feel in this case as if he'd be better off with that sag and he should leave her with that pisces.
mehhh we'll recover somehow.
I agree about the brattiness. She doesn’t seem too happy with the Pisces if she’s still willing to entertain him.
I think he should date both. The Sag is barely around anyways.
Dating is about future potential and getting to know someone. He barely knows anything in the 2 weeks he spent with the Virgo.
As long as he keeps his mouth shut about it and handles it with care, until it gets more serious or there is an exclusive talk, he should date both women to see who he likes.
That’s my unpopular opinion.click to expand

Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by nats
I like that she's close with her family. I like how she is with me physically. When we've been snuggling I like that she likes to touch me.. my ex who is a pisces wasn't a very touchy person. I always had to initiate it. With this Virgo, she's touchy, she has no hesitation to touch me and feel me and having a venus and mars in cancer - I love to touch and I love skin on skin.
hmm so that's a cancer thing. my bf is a cancer stellium with the same mars as you. and we're both very touchy. i think it goes with being an earth sign too. we'd sleep most times holding each other's hand.click to expand

Posted by goldenfishPosted by nats
Oh wait after I said good morning and before she sent the flowers pic she said "we're still on for tonight, be at mine at 830, hope you're coming with flowers" then we agreed the time THEN she sent the pic.. sorry forgot to add that in above. Clearly she wants me to play the game, step up, take my woman and be in charge! But I did not like her sending that photo. Makes me feel played and stupid..
I just had similar experience with someone - he also told me that his ex is still on his mind and he want a pause. He popped up again, honestly, if you take advice here and bring low effort rose or whatever crap, you do not stand a chance. And yeah, you were on "a break" for 2 very very different reasons. If you want to win her over - step up. If no -effff off and let the Pieces do his thing.click to expand
Posted by saggurl88Posted by goldenfishPosted by nats
Oh wait after I said good morning and before she sent the flowers pic she said "we're still on for tonight, be at mine at 830, hope you're coming with flowers" then we agreed the time THEN she sent the pic.. sorry forgot to add that in above. Clearly she wants me to play the game, step up, take my woman and be in charge! But I did not like her sending that photo. Makes me feel played and stupid..
I just had similar experience with someone - he also told me that his ex is still on his mind and he want a pause. He popped up again, honestly, if you take advice here and bring low effort rose or whatever crap, you do not stand a chance. And yeah, you were on "a break" for 2 very very different reasons. If you want to win her over - step up. If no -effff off and let the Pieces do his thing.
Any man who tries to outdo a guy with a bigger bouquet does not show "more effort"- He ends up looking like a chump/simp/sucker instead and she will most likely not value him. She'll just use him.
Low effort when she's being petty- but seeing her in person and giving her good "D" will over ride his low effort gift.
Men should never reward bad behavior with bigger gifts to outdo someone else.
He has some making up to do- but he shouldn't compete with flowers. He shouldn't be bringing them at all since she requested them while showing him the bouquet another man brought for her.click to expand

Posted by goldenfishPosted by saggurl88Posted by goldenfishPosted by nats
Oh wait after I said good morning and before she sent the flowers pic she said "we're still on for tonight, be at mine at 830, hope you're coming with flowers" then we agreed the time THEN she sent the pic.. sorry forgot to add that in above. Clearly she wants me to play the game, step up, take my woman and be in charge! But I did not like her sending that photo. Makes me feel played and stupid..
I just had similar experience with someone - he also told me that his ex is still on his mind and he want a pause. He popped up again, honestly, if you take advice here and bring low effort rose or whatever crap, you do not stand a chance. And yeah, you were on "a break" for 2 very very different reasons. If you want to win her over - step up. If no -effff off and let the Pieces do his thing.
Any man who tries to outdo a guy with a bigger bouquet does not show "more effort"- He ends up looking like a chump/simp/sucker instead and she will most likely not value him. She'll just use him.
Low effort when she's being petty- but seeing her in person and giving her good "D" will over ride his low effort gift.
Men should never reward bad behavior with bigger gifts to outdo someone else.
He has some making up to do- but he shouldn't compete with flowers. He shouldn't be bringing them at all since she requested them while showing him the bouquet another man brought for her.
Hahahahah I do not know why you want to sabotage this guy, but keep going - I am with you in this. One more time: they took a break because he did not sort out his ex (my ass lol) and she - because she was moving abroad. Anyone who is messy and self-centered enough to start dating someone while being hung up on ex should and will jump through the hoops. I actually salute this Virgo lady - getting on his little feelings so well, so he can not be cheap and now has spent some money to outplay another dude. Hilarious & well done!click to expand
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Anyway we stopped speaking. Zero contact for 2 weeks. I sorted my ex out. Called Virgo on Monday, we've been texting all day Monday and Tuesday. She's met a Pisces but isn't sure she'll take that serious but says she's interested. We agreed to meet up on Wednesday. She had a date with Pisces on Tue (last night) where I asked if they'd sleep together and she said yes. She's dropped messages on Mon and Tue about us dating and/or when I bring up us dating she says "its too soon" plus "you dumped me". Do I have a chance? Should I aggressively chase her? Does her too soon mean I am an option but she's scared and needs to trust me again? She's Virgo sun, cancer moon, virgo venus, gemini mars.