Virgos Only This Includes Sun, Moon, and Rising,

It is always said that we feel better about ourselves when we are giving to others. Is this true? Do you feel better giving of yourself then others helping or giving to you? (Please keep this serious; sexual innuedos refrain.)

CC Please stop trying to derail my thread.

Yes it is quite fulfilling knowing I have helped someone in need. It is refreshing to know that I am needed to help at one time or another. But at times I have to remember to take care of myself also. Just like ulalume I hate that when people try to help or look out for me, I feel better helping instead of being helped. I don't like the helpless feeling I get when someone help me.

Virgo rising

It really does come so natural to me to give and help others and it's a great high butttt.....I am discovering I need to ease up on the giving and let others help and give to ME a little more. Makes me angry when people don't reciprocate but that's not being fair to them - I don't really give them much of a chance to do so.

And did I mention I have control issues? 😛

Virgo Moon

I do enjoy giving to others, be it nurturing, helping and believing in their potential they want to see made real, or simply just being there for them as they need it at that point in time. Similar to what the others have said I also have a hard time receiving or accepting help. It is something that I am trying to work on as well.
Sun, Asc & Mercury in Virgo

For me, a Virgo sun, I can tell you that I will absentmindedly start helping someone even if they wanted it or not. Its like it is my go to response. I catch myself doing it as if I am watching myself from afar.

But in the end I get a feeling of satisfaction.

Posted by TheProphetProdigy
I don't know honestly, I love to help but then helping always puts me at a disadvantage in my personal or professional life.

Sun-Virgo
Moon-Scorpio
Mercury_Virgo
Venus-Virgo
Mars-Virgo

yeah I know that a lot of virgo so what!!!!! lol

You may be the prodigal Virgo... Wow you really are Virgo. TheProphetProdigy says its a Virgo thing he means it.

Posted by CluelessCancer
Virgo Mars. Cancer Heart. LEO Mouth.

This is for Virgo Sun Moon and Rising and its about giving to others. Please stop trying to change the topic CC.

Posted by miamivirgo

Posted by CluelessCancer
Virgo Mars. Cancer Heart. LEO Mouth.

This is for Virgo Sun Moon and Rising and its about giving to others. Please stop trying to change the topic CC.

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Leo moon won't let her not make it about herself.

Posted by justagirl

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Posted by CluelessCancer
Virgo Mars. Cancer Heart. LEO Mouth.

This is for Virgo Sun Moon and Rising and its about giving to others. Please stop trying to change the topic CC.

Leo moon won't let her not make it about herself.

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I am seeing this. She really is a pest. But the secret is she likes it.

Being of assistance is definitely my default programming. Virtually everything I do revolves around someone else (which is not entirely healthy).

The deal breaker for me though is laziness. If someone is just looking for a person to do the work for them instead of actually seeking *help* then I'll keep on walking.

I get that yall like to help and get satisfaction from it. I have a question from another angle. My bf has a virgo moon and I see everyone asking for his help and he seems to enjoy it. I have things I need help with, but as a capricorn, I am not good at asking for help and am too independent for my own good. Lots of times he sees things that need to be done at my house and just does it for me. So, my question is what approach do you prefer when someone asks you. I feel bad asking because so many other people ask him and I dont want to add to the burden. Plus, I dont like to put people out. I prefer someone offer because that way I know they really want to do it. I dont want him to feel used either. I guess my question is how does one ask for help?

I would ask the caps how they approach asking, but they'll say they feel the same way or they just dont ask for help.

Im not afraid to ask him to teach me how to do something, but for the reasons above, I dont like to.

i'm not sure if it's because of my sun in virgo. i take all this astrology with a grain of salt... even though i'm here it's more like a side interest if anything. but the fact that i give to the point of almost self-sacrificing sometimes is because of my mom. her life is a spread of bending over backwards for people, for her mother, siblings, her husband, and ultimately for her children.. me. as a kid i would always see my mom eating yesterday's leftovers because she did not want to waste, because she wanted to save and most importantly because she did not want to leave her kids wanting, as she did her entire life. i love my mom to death for all she's done for me.. but at the same time, i don't want to be completely like her in her self-sacrificing, which is why i'm so careful about maintaining my independence and making sure that sometimes i CAN be selfish. but sometimes you can't help with how you're raised and who you grew up with so yes, sometimes i tend to give in a self-sacrificing manner. the plus is the majority of the people who i've given to have become/are my lifelong friends, and not leeches who take advantage of me (although there have been a few).

Posted by TheProphetProdigy
I think me and TMV chart is similar.

Count me in, too. We're all fire bunnies. 🙂

Posted by miamivirgo
It is always said that we feel better about ourselves when we are giving to others. Is this true? Do you feel better giving of yourself then others helping or giving to you? (Please keep this serious; sexual innuedos refrain.)

Yes.

I honestly think our lives revolve around that. We're not ok if we don't contribute to humanity in our own ways.

However the flipside to that:

1) You can never tell what a person actually needs and sometimes we give somethink we THINK they need but they don't. We then whine about being taken for granted. I've seen this a lot.

2) We go so far beyond merely helping someone, we forget what we're about and our needs go unsatisfied. We should look after ourselves first, but a lot of my Virgo friends feel that's selfish and other people's needs come first.

I like getting stuff and I don't want to help anyone who doesn't do what they can for themselves.

I like giving to and helping others but I also need more back than I get: I think that people come to take us for granted too easily and we come to resent that.

Many of you stated that you prefer reciprocity which. So in what ways do you want to receive it so you don't feel taken advantage of?

Help with your own projects (even though you won't ask)?
A home cooked meal?
Baked good?
A simple thank you?
A hug and gushing about how much you are appreciated?
A back/foot/leg/body rub?
A gift or token?
A night on the town?

For me I will jump in if I perceive that someone is overwhelmed or unable to handle a certain task or situation.

I really love to help people in need and I really expect nothing in return. I just do it. I feel good just doing it and usually I feel the best when people allow me to treat it as 'no big deal.'

But like it has been stated if I feel I am being taken adavantage of or used I will withdraw all assistence that moment forward.

A simple thank you.

It has more to do with that person's personality than with what they do. If I perceive they're good people, I will help them and don't ask for anything in return, I will even bypass the thank you.

Basically if a Virgo cares about you, you have to try really hard to be seen as ungrateful.

If I care about someone then their happiness means a great deal to me. To the point that I will sacrifice my own happiness for theirs. Yes this is unhealthy but if I see someone I care about in need and I know that I can help, I feel extremely selfish if I do not lend a hand.

A thank you and/or reciprocation is not required so long as my help is welcome and not expected then I'm always there. Once it becomes an expectation, I begin to feel obligated and taken for granted. Setting myself up for failure I know...but hey that's how I am.

Virgo Sun, mercury, venus, saturn, lilith, asc node; Taur moon, asc...Too much damn earth!

Posted by fembot
If I care about someone then their happiness means a great deal to me. To the point that I will sacrifice my own happiness for theirs. Yes this is unhealthy but if I see someone I care about in need and I know that I can help, I feel extremely selfish if I do not lend a hand.

A thank you and/or reciprocation is not required so long as my help is welcome and not expected then I'm always there. Once it becomes an expectation, I begin to feel obligated and taken for granted. Setting myself up for failure I know...but hey that's how I am.

Virgo Sun, mercury, venus, saturn, lilith, asc node; Taur moon, asc...Too much damn earth!

+1 I can agree with this. At some point the risk is an ongoing obligation when it was ment to lift a burden temporarily for someone.

This is the area where it appears that Virgos feel a lot of grief.

If one looks through the posting history here, you will find that the majority of Virgos complain about feeling like they aren't appreciated, or feel they've been taken advantage.

And it's because Virgos think that they know what is best for others, and so their "giving" is based on what they think is best for another, and what the other actually wants to receive.

It's only natural that when that ^^^^ happens, the person receiving is put off, because they feel that this giving was for the Virgos benefit, and so they aren't grateful.

This "giving" appears to be very one-sided.

The Virgo feels such joy in giving, that rarely are they taking into consideration of what the other person actually wants or needs.

It's a very bizarre trait in Virgo.

It probably cannot be changed, my dear Virgo 🙂

The partner of the Virgo has to realize that, though it may seem selfish, it's really not ... because it comes from a good place.

Probably the best place to start this morphing (if possible) is by consciously acting on what another posted already touched on ...... you have to be the receiver, if you would appreciate gratitude.

By letting someone give to you .... you are then able to see where their heart is, so you'll know how to give to them of what they want.

Posted by P-Angel

Probably the best place to start this morphing (if possible) is by consciously acting on what another posted already touched on ...... you have to be the receiver, if you would appreciate gratitude.

By letting someone give to you .... you are then able to see where their heart is, so you'll know how to give to them of what they want.

This is hard for me. I think it is something I will have to cultivate over time. But that urge to serve is so prevalent that it acts like a second nature.

Wow, P-Angel, deep. Very deep.

So, if a virgo is doing something for you that you don't need or want, how would one go about explaining they are over-doing it and they don't need the help?

(not that I need to say anything to anyone, it's just the question popped in my mind while I was reading your response)

^^ How to say something without deflating them or making them feel unappreciated, I mean.

Posted by TheProphetProdigy
Interesting, you always seem to be able to read virgo's like an open book while others jump the gun like they know our secrets. Thank you.

She's a Pisces. That's what we do. 🙂

I do enjoy giving to others and seeing them happy. I especially feel this way during the holidays, I don't really care if I get anything. I mean I can buy it myself it I really wanted it (Taurus sun talking). But I feel the greatest joy when someone, whether it be my kids or a close relative, or a friend really enjoys and gets use out of the gift I gave them. Of course this extends to everyday life as well, but the holidays seems to be where I get the greatest sense of satisfaction from giving.

Virgo Moon. 🙂