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It's because we're cautious about people we trust. And yes we are prone to insecurity as much as any sign but the way we handle our emotions- not always the best. We tend to self-sabotage and overthink about things.

And I've already told you this about your Virgo friend- he might have developed inappropriate feelings for you and that is why he distanced himself.
YES on all accounts!

hope you and yours are well. πŸ˜‰

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I have no idea how you can still like us Virgos when we sound so horrible.

From what I have observed, being a Virgo myself and having female Virgo friends.. we are signs who are inclined to manipulation. The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation. But not always for malicious purposes.

I had a Libra friend who did the same thing that Virgo friend of yours did- manipulated the relationships of other people.

But the intention behind the use of manipulation matters more to me than the act itself. I don't always see it as a bad thing. It is just a tool. Virgos might use it simply because of their curiosity about someone. Surely I use it coz I'm endlessly curious about people. I want to understand them, what they like, why they do what they do, how they react to certain things and situations, etc.
There!! You already made a point!! "Intention behind manipulation" That virgo guy was interested in me.That doesn't justify what he did to his best friend ofcourse.But I know for a fact that he loved me. There was no malice in his love.I have seen it.He didn't have problem being called whipped by his guy friends or taking a stand for me both in my presence n absence.He has been adorable that way.All the Virgos are adorable that way. Though there are things I very much dislike about Virgos ,there are certain things I absolutely admire.They being extremely loyal is one thing.That means a lot to me.N yes they use manipulation for all the things you mentioned.We Scorpios do too.But I think we are more smooth n subtle or just too clever for the Virgos games πŸ˜› Their positives immensely outweigh their negatives for me.If there is one sign I'll turn to when I'm under any kinda troubled thoughts, it's the Virgos . Only they can level with my head n help me see things more clearly. Not that I'll take their advice n follow it, but they sure help me declutter all the extra noises n that's huge.


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Why should we care about being called "whipped" or being made fun of coz of our loyalty? Most other guys are dumbazzes anyway. They call us "beta" and shyte but when they get rejected, they whine and bytch about women all the time. Virgos don't mind giving up control when they trust someone.

I've noticed that when the chips are down, I can always rely on a Scorpio.

They aren't fair- weathered friends, can match our fierce loyalty, impressively observant, can see through our crap, will not sit on the fence and we protect each other.

I like all these things about them.
Okay so I have mixed feelings. I know several Scorpio female Virgo male relationships and I'm always troubled by them bc I'm close to the girls and it always seems an extremely manipulative and unhealthy relationship dynamic. The fact that what I observe seems so different than what u guys are describing makes me hopeful that maybe I just misinterpreted what I've seen.

For example, what I witness is my friend's men (and it's all the same story) express discontent somehow/someway over something and my friends think they're being clever or something and figure out what it is and try to show how they've "learned". Or stalking their guys and then appeasing some ideal they know the guy likes. Or hiding their feelings when their Virgo says or does things they don't like. It seems like constant work and not very honest but honestly no one is unhappy.

My cousin is VERY happy with hers and they may be getting married soon. Me and my other cousins worry but she's also said the good just outweighs the bad so much so she doesn't like to hear my opinion (just likes to share).
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They'll soon grow out of the whole manipulation phase. There's not much these two signs can hide from eachother for very long.They sync really well eventually. What two signs don't have any issues? We learn to accept when there is love. I personally think these two signs can learn a lot from eachother, grow old together, make lot of memories, share life's great moments n can really make it till the end.
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I have no idea how you can still like us Virgos when we sound so horrible.

From what I have observed, being a Virgo myself and having female Virgo friends.. we are signs who are inclined to manipulation. The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation. But not always for malicious purposes.

I had a Libra friend who did the same thing that Virgo friend of yours did- manipulated the relationships of other people.

But the intention behind the use of manipulation matters more to me than the act itself. I don't always see it as a bad thing. It is just a tool. Virgos might use it simply because of their curiosity about someone. Surely I use it coz I'm endlessly curious about people. I want to understand them, what they like, why they do what they do, how they react to certain things and situations, etc.
There!! You already made a point!! "Intention behind manipulation" That virgo guy was interested in me.That doesn't justify what he did to his best friend ofcourse.But I know for a fact that he loved me. There was no malice in his love.I have seen it.He didn't have problem being called whipped by his guy friends or taking a stand for me both in my presence n absence.He has been adorable that way.All the Virgos are adorable that way. Though there are things I very much dislike about Virgos ,there are certain things I absolutely admire.They being extremely loyal is one thing.That means a lot to me.N yes they use manipulation for all the things you mentioned.We Scorpios do too.But I think we are more smooth n subtle or just too clever for the Virgos games πŸ˜› Their positives immensely outweigh their negatives for me.If there is one sign I'll turn to when I'm under any kinda troubled thoughts, it's the Virgos . Only they can level with my head n help me see things more clearly. Not that I'll take their advice n follow it, but they sure help me declutter all the extra noises n that's huge.


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Why should we care about being called "whipped" or being made fun of coz of our loyalty? Most other guys are dumbazzes anyway. They call us "beta" and shyte but when they get rejected, they whine and bytch about women all the time. Virgos don't mind giving up control when they trust someone.

I've noticed that when the chips are down, I can always rely on a Scorpio.

They aren't fair- weathered friends, can match our fierce loyalty, impressively observant, can see through our crap, will not sit on the fence and we protect each other.

I like all these things about them.
Okay so I have mixed feelings. I know several Scorpio female Virgo male relationships and I'm always troubled by them bc I'm close to the girls and it always seems an extremely manipulative and unhealthy relationship dynamic. The fact that what I observe seems so different than what u guys are describing makes me hopeful that maybe I just misinterpreted what I've seen.

For example, what I witness is my friend's men (and it's all the same story) express discontent somehow/someway over something and my friends think they're being clever or something and figure out what it is and try to show how they've "learned". Or stalking their guys and then appeasing some ideal they know the guy likes. Or hiding their feelings when their Virgo says or does things they don't like. It seems like constant work and not very honest but honestly no one is unhappy.

My cousin is VERY happy with hers and they may be getting married soon. Me and my other cousins worry but she's also said the good just outweighs the bad so much so she doesn't like to hear my opinion (just likes to share).

They'll soon grow out of the whole manipulation phase. There's not much these two signs can hide from eachother for very long.They sync really well eventually. What two signs don't have any issues? We learn to accept when there is love. I personally think these two signs can learn a lot from eachother, grow old together, make lot of memories, share life's great moments n can really make it till the end.


lol how do you know so much of these things?

do you have virgo family members?
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Lol! Personal experience.N no...no family members.. friends..a lot of them.But my friends are no less than a family to me. I'm not exaggerating a bit when I'm saying I live on the planet of Virgos πŸ˜›
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.
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I think she's trying to tell Pisces people are more manipulative than all the signs you mentioned. I have heard that quite often too.But haven't come across any Pisces who is manipulative
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.
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Well...what is the trademark of successful manipulation? It's being a blindside. So the best manipulators are not people you can analyze as far as tactics go...because if you can do that, they are not that good at it.

Scorpios are transparent. Virgos...eh....just look for the marks of them being ridden by anxiety and you will know what they did. Unless they switch it off which is like 1 in a million years. Libras are actually better than both cuz there's just that small hint of sociopathy in them that is pretty obvious.

11 signs will base their life frame on morals, values, wtfever. Pisces can switch it all off which is why you won't detect jack shit if their mind is hellbent on it cuz there is no pattern and zero guilt/remorse

I mean you asking me to elaborate is pretty quod erat demonstrandum at this point.
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.

I think she's trying to tell Pisces people are more manipulative than all the signs you mentioned. I have heard that quite often too.But haven't come across any Pisces who is manipulative


I had a Pisces friend who said very different things about his girlfriend when they were still together but when they broke up he was singing a different tune to me.

Is that manipulation? Changing words around?

I've always thought they're just prone to change their minds a lot.

*shrugs

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I really dunno.Havent been around Pisces much. I thought they're the nicest people for a very long time though.
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.
Well...what is the trademark of successful manipulation? It's being a blindside. So the best manipulators are not people you can analyze as far as tactics go...because if you can do that, they are not that good at it.

Scorpios are transparent. Virgos...eh....just look for the marks of them being ridden by anxiety and you will know what they did. Unless they switch it off which is like 1 in a million years. Libras are actually better than both cuz there's just that small hint of sociopathy in them that is pretty obvious.

11 signs will base their life frame on morals, values, wtfever. Pisces can switch it all off which is why you won't detect jack shit if their mind is hellbent on it cuz there is no pattern and zero guilt/remorse

I mean you asking me to elaborate is pretty quod erat demonstrandum at this point.
lol at Libra sociopathy *whispers (i agree on that)

darn this makes me kinda second guess my Pisces friends..

plus my wife is Pisces dominant *cringe
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.

I think she's trying to tell Pisces people are more manipulative than all the signs you mentioned. I have heard that quite often too.But haven't come across any Pisces who is manipulative


I had a Pisces friend who said very different things about his girlfriend when they were still together but when they broke up he was singing a different tune to me.

Is that manipulation? Changing words around?

I've always thought they're just prone to change their minds a lot.

*shrugs


I really dunno.Havent been around Pisces much. I thought they're the nicest people for a very long time though.
so you've changed your mind about them?

i thought they're cute but kinda eccentric tho

so if they ever manipulated me, i would never know?

that's what im getting from this lol
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No didn't mean that.But I couldn't hold on to that opinion coz I've come across like just 2-3 Pisces people...n I haven't been around them for long to actually form or cling to an opinion.My sister keeps telling me about her Pisces friends being manipulative though.I have an uncle who's Pisces.He is pretty much his Gemini wife's doormat.He is too nice of a person from what I saw.
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.
Well...what is the trademark of successful manipulation? It's being a blindside. So the best manipulators are not people you can analyze as far as tactics go...because if you can do that, they are not that good at it.

Scorpios are transparent. Virgos...eh....just look for the marks of them being ridden by anxiety and you will know what they did. Unless they switch it off which is like 1 in a million years. Libras are actually better than both cuz there's just that small hint of sociopathy in them that is pretty obvious.

11 signs will base their life frame on morals, values, wtfever. Pisces can switch it all off which is why you won't detect jack shit if their mind is hellbent on it cuz there is no pattern and zero guilt/remorse

I mean you asking me to elaborate is pretty quod erat demonstrandum at this point.
lol at Libra sociopathy *whispers (i agree on that)

darn this makes me kinda second guess my Pisces friends..

plus my wife is Pisces dominant *cringe
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not funny @Teena

plus her chart is more than 40% water

mine is balanced

plus she's a Leo moon and everyone on here doesn't seem to like that moon

like wtff it's being made out as if i married someone incompatible with me

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Rofl!!! You're only making me laugh harder!! C'mon nothing escapes your Virgo head. But you guys can be manipulated yeah πŸ˜›
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.

I think she's trying to tell Pisces people are more manipulative than all the signs you mentioned. I have heard that quite often too.But haven't come across any Pisces who is manipulative


I had a Pisces friend who said very different things about his girlfriend when they were still together but when they broke up he was singing a different tune to me.

Is that manipulation? Changing words around?

I've always thought they're just prone to change their minds a lot.

*shrugs


I really dunno.Havent been around Pisces much. I thought they're the nicest people for a very long time though.
so you've changed your mind about them?

i thought they're cute but kinda eccentric tho

so if they ever manipulated me, i would never know?

that's what im getting from this lol
No didn't mean that.But I couldn't hold on to that opinion coz I've come across like just 2-3 Pisces people...n I haven't been around them for long to actually form or cling to an opinion.My sister keeps telling me about her Pisces friends being manipulative though.I have an uncle who's Pisces.He is pretty much his Gemini wife's doormat.He is too nice of a person from what I saw.
okay how do these Pisceans manipulate people?
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As I said, I really can't be sure.But I think It's about them being very passive-aggressive.They can often put someone in a guilt trip.An example would be that you would tell this person something like β€œI'm angry that you forgot my birthday” Their would respond something like β€œit makes me sad that you'd think I'd forget your birthday, I should've told you of the great personal stress I'm facing at the moment, but you see I didn’t want to trouble you. You're right I should have put all this pain aside n wished you" kinda stuff.You will never know coz they have this air of honesty about them.
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.
Well...what is the trademark of successful manipulation? It's being a blindside. So the best manipulators are not people you can analyze as far as tactics go...because if you can do that, they are not that good at it.

Scorpios are transparent. Virgos...eh....just look for the marks of them being ridden by anxiety and you will know what they did. Unless they switch it off which is like 1 in a million years. Libras are actually better than both cuz there's just that small hint of sociopathy in them that is pretty obvious.

11 signs will base their life frame on morals, values, wtfever. Pisces can switch it all off which is why you won't detect jack shit if their mind is hellbent on it cuz there is no pattern and zero guilt/remorse

I mean you asking me to elaborate is pretty quod erat demonstrandum at this point.
lol at Libra sociopathy *whispers (i agree on that)

darn this makes me kinda second guess my Pisces friends..

plus my wife is Pisces dominant *cringe
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not funny @Teena

plus her chart is more than 40% water

mine is balanced

plus she's a Leo moon and everyone on here doesn't seem to like that moon

like wtff it's being made out as if i married someone incompatible with me



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Rofl!!! You're only making me laugh harder!! C'mon nothing escapes your Virgo head. But you guys can be manipulated yeah πŸ˜›
you know, if im gonna be manipulated.. i hope it's done subtly so i won't notice it..

who knows? maybe my wife's been doing that for 20 years lol
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Lol!! Depends on how pro a person is at that really πŸ˜› But I've not come across a Virgo who can't be manipulated at all.They can many times be taken over by emotions.With all their analytical heads n manipulation skills, they surprisingly don't see when they're being manipulated sometimes.
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.

I think she's trying to tell Pisces people are more manipulative than all the signs you mentioned. I have heard that quite often too.But haven't come across any Pisces who is manipulative


I had a Pisces friend who said very different things about his girlfriend when they were still together but when they broke up he was singing a different tune to me.

Is that manipulation? Changing words around?

I've always thought they're just prone to change their minds a lot.

*shrugs


I really dunno.Havent been around Pisces much. I thought they're the nicest people for a very long time though.
so you've changed your mind about them?

i thought they're cute but kinda eccentric tho

so if they ever manipulated me, i would never know?

that's what im getting from this lol
No didn't mean that.But I couldn't hold on to that opinion coz I've come across like just 2-3 Pisces people...n I haven't been around them for long to actually form or cling to an opinion.My sister keeps telling me about her Pisces friends being manipulative though.I have an uncle who's Pisces.He is pretty much his Gemini wife's doormat.He is too nice of a person from what I saw.
okay how do these Pisceans manipulate people?
As I said, I really can't be sure.But I think It's about them being very passive-aggressive.They can often put someone in a guilt trip.An example would be that you would tell this person something like β€œI'm angry that you forgot my birthday” Their would respond something like β€œit makes me sad that you'd think I'd forget your birthday, I should've told you of the great personal stress I'm facing at the moment, but you see I didn’t want to trouble you. You're right I should have put all this pain aside n wished you" kinda stuff.You will never know coz they have this air of honesty about them.
They do have that air of honesty about them plus they have such innocent-looking faces. I think they do that to me... all the time. I just kinda realized it now. Like this Pisces dude is like: "Bruh you gotta come over so you can meet my girlfriend." We haven't seen or contacted each other in months and I already know he's going to break up with this girl in less than 4 months like he always does and he's gonna get all dramatic so I'm avoiding that whole thing. And when he doesn't get what he wants- which is me doing what he wants me to do... he's going to guilt-trip me.

Doesn't work on me anymore tho, I got tired of it. *shrugs

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I agree . They do have innocent looking faces or atleast give such vibes.They come off as extremely nice people. I didn't get close enough to any of them to see the dark side though.

Lol!! Good that you realized it atleast now n became immune to that kinda manipulation.
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.
Well...what is the trademark of successful manipulation? It's being a blindside. So the best manipulators are not people you can analyze as far as tactics go...because if you can do that, they are not that good at it.

Scorpios are transparent. Virgos...eh....just look for the marks of them being ridden by anxiety and you will know what they did. Unless they switch it off which is like 1 in a million years. Libras are actually better than both cuz there's just that small hint of sociopathy in them that is pretty obvious.

11 signs will base their life frame on morals, values, wtfever. Pisces can switch it all off which is why you won't detect jack shit if their mind is hellbent on it cuz there is no pattern and zero guilt/remorse

I mean you asking me to elaborate is pretty quod erat demonstrandum at this point.
lol at Libra sociopathy *whispers (i agree on that)

darn this makes me kinda second guess my Pisces friends..

plus my wife is Pisces dominant *cringe
β€”
not funny @Teena

plus her chart is more than 40% water

mine is balanced

plus she's a Leo moon and everyone on here doesn't seem to like that moon

like wtff it's being made out as if i married someone incompatible with me



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Rofl!!! You're only making me laugh harder!! C'mon nothing escapes your Virgo head. But you guys can be manipulated yeah πŸ˜›
you know, if im gonna be manipulated.. i hope it's done subtly so i won't notice it..

who knows? maybe my wife's been doing that for 20 years lol
Lol!! Depends on how pro a person is at that really πŸ˜› But I've not come across a Virgo who can't be manipulated at all.They can many times be taken over by emotions.With all their analytical heads n manipulation skills, they surprisingly don't see when they're being manipulated sometimes.


you're creeping me out @Teena

where do you get these stuff?

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β€” From the virgo planet πŸ˜›

You don't think that's true though?
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.
Well...what is the trademark of successful manipulation? It's being a blindside. So the best manipulators are not people you can analyze as far as tactics go...because if you can do that, they are not that good at it.

Scorpios are transparent. Virgos...eh....just look for the marks of them being ridden by anxiety and you will know what they did. Unless they switch it off which is like 1 in a million years. Libras are actually better than both cuz there's just that small hint of sociopathy in them that is pretty obvious.

11 signs will base their life frame on morals, values, wtfever. Pisces can switch it all off which is why you won't detect jack shit if their mind is hellbent on it cuz there is no pattern and zero guilt/remorse

I mean you asking me to elaborate is pretty quod erat demonstrandum at this point.
lol at Libra sociopathy *whispers (i agree on that)

darn this makes me kinda second guess my Pisces friends..

plus my wife is Pisces dominant *cringe
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not funny @Teena

plus her chart is more than 40% water

mine is balanced

plus she's a Leo moon and everyone on here doesn't seem to like that moon

like wtff it's being made out as if i married someone incompatible with me



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Rofl!!! You're only making me laugh harder!! C'mon nothing escapes your Virgo head. But you guys can be manipulated yeah πŸ˜›
you know, if im gonna be manipulated.. i hope it's done subtly so i won't notice it..

who knows? maybe my wife's been doing that for 20 years lol
Lol!! Depends on how pro a person is at that really πŸ˜› But I've not come across a Virgo who can't be manipulated at all.They can many times be taken over by emotions.With all their analytical heads n manipulation skills, they surprisingly don't see when they're being manipulated sometimes.


you're creeping me out @Teena

where do you get these stuff?

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β€” From the virgo planet πŸ˜›

You don't think that's true though?
lol at Virgo planet... it must be terrible to be a Scorpio and live there by yourself

yeah i agree that Virgos can be manipulated... i've seen my female Virgo friends manipulated lots of times before.. probably me too since i married a Pisces dominant lol

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Terrible??I love it here on the Virgo planet. I enjoy all the freaking attention n care I get from these souls here. I enjoy the games too.So no problem there πŸ˜› I would have felt terrible if it's all Scorpios planet tbh.I find Scorpios really really bland n boring πŸ˜›

You sure must have been.You never know πŸ˜„ But it's ok... you'll survive πŸ˜›
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.
Well...what is the trademark of successful manipulation? It's being a blindside. So the best manipulators are not people you can analyze as far as tactics go...because if you can do that, they are not that good at it.

Scorpios are transparent. Virgos...eh....just look for the marks of them being ridden by anxiety and you will know what they did. Unless they switch it off which is like 1 in a million years. Libras are actually better than both cuz there's just that small hint of sociopathy in them that is pretty obvious.

11 signs will base their life frame on morals, values, wtfever. Pisces can switch it all off which is why you won't detect jack shit if their mind is hellbent on it cuz there is no pattern and zero guilt/remorse

I mean you asking me to elaborate is pretty quod erat demonstrandum at this point.
lol at Libra sociopathy *whispers (i agree on that)

darn this makes me kinda second guess my Pisces friends..

plus my wife is Pisces dominant *cringe
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not funny @Teena

plus her chart is more than 40% water

mine is balanced

plus she's a Leo moon and everyone on here doesn't seem to like that moon

like wtff it's being made out as if i married someone incompatible with me



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Rofl!!! You're only making me laugh harder!! C'mon nothing escapes your Virgo head. But you guys can be manipulated yeah πŸ˜›
you know, if im gonna be manipulated.. i hope it's done subtly so i won't notice it..

who knows? maybe my wife's been doing that for 20 years lol
Lol!! Depends on how pro a person is at that really πŸ˜› But I've not come across a Virgo who can't be manipulated at all.They can many times be taken over by emotions.With all their analytical heads n manipulation skills, they surprisingly don't see when they're being manipulated sometimes.


you're creeping me out @Teena

where do you get these stuff?

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β€” From the virgo planet πŸ˜›

You don't think that's true though?
lol at Virgo planet... it must be terrible to be a Scorpio and live there by yourself

yeah i agree that Virgos can be manipulated... i've seen my female Virgo friends manipulated lots of times before.. probably me too since i married a Pisces dominant lol


Terrible??I love it here on the Virgo planet. I enjoy all the freaking attention n care I get from these souls here. I enjoy the games too.So no problem there πŸ˜› I would have felt terrible if it's all Scorpios planet tbh.I find Scorpios really really bland n boring πŸ˜›

You sure must have been.You never know πŸ˜„ But it's ok... you'll survive πŸ˜›


you're adorbs you

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Teehee.So are you

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@Teena

what's your mars and venus?

@yupvirgoo

I have Mars in Cancer, Venus n Mercury in Sagittarius πŸ˜„ Why though?
This thing right here needs your attention ^^

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i think that's supposed to mean that you get along well with Sags πŸ™‚

i suck at astrology tho so... *shrugs

sorry took a bit long to respond coz im kinda doing laundry

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Haha.No problem.Cute thing ?

I do get along very well with Sags.

Neither do I know much about astrology..dw πŸ˜›
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.
Well...what is the trademark of successful manipulation? It's being a blindside. So the best manipulators are not people you can analyze as far as tactics go...because if you can do that, they are not that good at it.

Scorpios are transparent. Virgos...eh....just look for the marks of them being ridden by anxiety and you will know what they did. Unless they switch it off which is like 1 in a million years. Libras are actually better than both cuz there's just that small hint of sociopathy in them that is pretty obvious.

11 signs will base their life frame on morals, values, wtfever. Pisces can switch it all off which is why you won't detect jack shit if their mind is hellbent on it cuz there is no pattern and zero guilt/remorse

I mean you asking me to elaborate is pretty quod erat demonstrandum at this point.
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I agree with u to an extent.

If a Virgos tell is their nervous energy; the Pisces tell is their martyrdom. It's kinda like a nervous energy too, their almost need to be a little miserable. It's to make up for all the shit they do all day lol.

I try to explain this to my mom who worries so much abt my Pisces brother.
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Stensco21, they are not hard to understand at all.

What did you find perplexing about them?
I agree.They are not hard at all to understand. They just play mind games at times trying to figure you out..but nothing we Scorpios can't understand! πŸ˜›
'a nasty critter, any ho hitter'

So what is the definition of that? What does it mean coming from a virgo guy?



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any one else that wants to answer can do so.
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'Only if you want it

Only if you want it

Only if you want it'

Lol!! Go through rest of the thread.The replies I gave to virgogent n yupvirgoo down below. It's all about it
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Stensco21, they are not hard to understand at all.

What did you find perplexing about them?
I agree.They are not hard at all to understand. They just play mind games at times trying to figure you out..but nothing we Scorpios can't understand! πŸ˜›
'a nasty critter, any ho hitter'

So what is the definition of that? What does it mean coming from a virgo guy?



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any one else that wants to answer can do so.
'Only if you want it

Only if you want it

Only if yoy want it'

Lol!! Go through rest of the thread.The replies I gave to virgogent n yupvirgoo down below. It's all about it
You really got a thing for virgo guys......scorpio is studying them.
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Oh sure I love 'em !!
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The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation.
I'd love to let you go through life with this cute perspective you have on Virgo/Libra/Scorpio but alas, truth prevails.

It's Pisces.
Hmm..

Please elaborate.
Well...what is the trademark of successful manipulation? It's being a blindside. So the best manipulators are not people you can analyze as far as tactics go...because if you can do that, they are not that good at it.

Scorpios are transparent. Virgos...eh....just look for the marks of them being ridden by anxiety and you will know what they did. Unless they switch it off which is like 1 in a million years. Libras are actually better than both cuz there's just that small hint of sociopathy in them that is pretty obvious.

11 signs will base their life frame on morals, values, wtfever. Pisces can switch it all off which is why you won't detect jack shit if their mind is hellbent on it cuz there is no pattern and zero guilt/remorse

I mean you asking me to elaborate is pretty quod erat demonstrandum at this point.
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Lightbulb moment.

I have a Pisces friend, a sister (by bond, not by blood), and I’ve never thought her to be one until you’ve brought it up, this never came to light until now. I figured her to be a very emotional being, but her justifications have a lot of sense to them.

I’d call it the guilt-trip manipulator with logic. I can’t quite put into words how to explain it so I’ll share some examples (they’re not referencing me personally). Forgive the lengthiness:

Her Birthday: β€œI understand people are busy, hell, even I get busy. But the one time I ask for everyone to show up for my birthday and they can’t even make it? I’m not even asking for a present nor do I want one. I only request for their time because when is the next time I will see them? Life moves on, before you know it, people get into relationships, get married, have babies and time flies by. It’s not like I’m asking them to take the whole day off for me, I’m only asking for a couple of hours at a nice dinner with my closest friends. So you mean to tell me this person can’t take two hours out of their busy life to come spend time with me? If I have this, this, and that on my plate and I still managed to schedule TWO HOURS of my time to go to their birthday, why can’t they do the same? Is that asking for a lot? I don’t believe I’m asking for a lot.”

Relationship where the guy lived two hours away from her: β€œI am well aware that long distance relationships take a lot of investment for it to work, but I feel like I am putting in so much effort and you’re not meeting me halfway. Relationships are about compromise, are they not? You know I’m a nurse who works long hours-I get up at 4am and don’t come home until 6pm. YET, I will still drive the two hours to go visit you after work and stay the whole weekend since those are the only two days I’ll have off. You knows this about my schedule. Therefore, can you understand my frustration when I go to see you and you want us to hang out with your friends? I understand they are your friends and you want to spend time with them, but not when I’m here. I only want the two of us, alone, because I don’t get to see you often. Your friends live CLOSE BY; you can see them anytime you want. It’s not as simple as a 10 minute drive to come visit you. I only have two days with you, they get 5 out of the week…is that too much to ask?”

Making plans in advance: β€œThe way I see it is If you know that we have a dinner date planned on said day, but then you plan to go see a movie with your boyfriend afterwards, why are you getting mad at me because I am β€˜prolonging’ our dinner? You may as well have not scheduled the dinner with me in the first place if I’m of little importance to you. To me, that is disrespectful because you’re not respecting of my time when YOU were the one who scheduled the dinner in the first place. I could have been doing something else more productive.”

Choosing sides: β€œI’m not telling you who to be friends or not to be friends with, I don’t control your life. I mean why would I want to be friends with a person who is going to snub me because I chose to be friends with so and so? I don’t want that type of negativity in my life and to me that isn’t a true friend. I’m not even telling you to stop hanging out with her and I’m not going to think any less of you as a friend if you continue to be her friend. My problem is that I feel hurt when you didn’t stand up for me when she talked about me negatively even when you were trying to stay neutral. Now I feel like I can’ trust you when you’re around her because you know she doesn’t like me and she will always have something negative to say about me. Again, I’m not asking you to choose sides and telling you to not be friends with her. I don’t care if you’re friends with her for all I care. I just thought our 15 years+ of friendship had more merit.”


There are lots more than what I’ve pointed out, but I never realized a pattern until seeing it in words. Pisces tend to sympathize with you so your reasons aren’t overlooked. And I noticed in many of her scenarios, she emphasizes a lot on β€˜time’ being valued.

Then again, the pattern isn’t consistent because in the first scenario you may very well have a legit reason, say you scheduled a trip in advance and can’t make it, and she will genuinely not get offended that you are not able to make it to her birthday.

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I've lost hope in understanding Virgo men looong ago. (I'm cancer btw)

Every other week or so he decided "he's seeing someone else now" and one time after delivering the "news" he asked two days later if I gave his new girlfriend a STD.

When I asked what are the symptoms and why does she think she has it, he said "I don't know, it might not even be real" When I got serious, he said he was "just asking" and he could say nothing but he wouldn't do that to me because he respects me (rrriggghttt, haha)

Long story short neither me or him had anything, the "girlfriend's" results were never shown to me

Ended up not talking.. 3 months later he was back like nothing ever happened πŸ™‚ only to dissapear again.






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So the virgo wrote me today flirting w me saying if I sold him a house he would be flirting his ass off (I'm a realtor)... and asked me what's been up w me I said I have a bf now( kinda we are on a break still don't want to disrespect him) and he said how he had gotten into a relationship and that he's not used to it and misses being single and I said that he will get used to it. Then he said that he wishes we could have had "fun" before all this happened ( I'm guessing our relationships and me moving) (I moved from the town I lived in for seven years where he lives) and I said "I think we had a good run" because I didn't want to disrespect his girl or my guy by flirting w him then he once again changes his profile pic to him and his girl thirty min later when it was just a pic of him w friends... ugh what the hell
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So the virgo wrote me today flirting w me saying if I sold him a house he would be flirting his ass off (I'm a realtor)... and asked me what's been up w me I said I have a bf now( kinda we are on a break still don't want to disrespect him) and he said how he had gotten into a relationship and that he's not used to it and misses being single and I said that he will get used to it. Then he said that he wishes we could have had "fun" before all this happened ( I'm guessing our relationships and me moving) (I moved from the town I lived in for seven years where he lives) and I said "I think we had a good run" because I didn't want to disrespect his girl or my guy by flirting w him then he once again changes his profile pic to him and his girl thirty min later when it was just a pic of him w friends... ugh what the hell
well i really would do the same too

this is so frustrating
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Yea I don't get it
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So the virgo wrote me today flirting w me saying if I sold him a house he would be flirting his ass off (I'm a realtor)... and asked me what's been up w me I said I have a bf now( kinda we are on a break still don't want to disrespect him) and he said how he had gotten into a relationship and that he's not used to it and misses being single and I said that he will get used to it. Then he said that he wishes we could have had "fun" before all this happened ( I'm guessing our relationships and me moving) (I moved from the town I lived in for seven years where he lives) and I said "I think we had a good run" because I didn't want to disrespect his girl or my guy by flirting w him then he once again changes his profile pic to him and his girl thirty min later when it was just a pic of him w friends... ugh what the hell
well i really would do the same too

this is so frustrating

Yea I don't get it


a.) I started out flirting with you then you tell me that you have a boyfriend now. (my mind is like okay bad move I shouldn't have flirted).

b.) So then I share that I also got into a relationship recently then I hint that I'm unhappy and wanna be single then you say I'd get used to it. (I'd think damn that's rejection right there).

c.) You say: "I think we had a good run." (I'd think wow I guess this is the end, she moved far away from me, shuts down my flirting, is in a relationship with someone else and she thinks I'd be happier with whoever I am with right now).

After hitting on you for 9 years, I think my heart would break a little.

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Yea I can see all of that but keep in mind I was trying to be respectful of the other ppl my guy and his girl so that adds another layer of bullshit and my profile pic is w a guy lol so I can only assume he had an idea I had someone
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So the virgo wrote me today flirting w me saying if I sold him a house he would be flirting his ass off (I'm a realtor)... and asked me what's been up w me I said I have a bf now( kinda we are on a break still don't want to disrespect him) and he said how he had gotten into a relationship and that he's not used to it and misses being single and I said that he will get used to it. Then he said that he wishes we could have had "fun" before all this happened ( I'm guessing our relationships and me moving) (I moved from the town I lived in for seven years where he lives) and I said "I think we had a good run" because I didn't want to disrespect his girl or my guy by flirting w him then he once again changes his profile pic to him and his girl thirty min later when it was just a pic of him w friends... ugh what the hell
well i really would do the same too

this is so frustrating

Yea I don't get it


a.) I started out flirting with you then you tell me that you have a boyfriend now. (my mind is like okay bad move I shouldn't have flirted).

b.) So then I share that I also got into a relationship recently then I hint that I'm unhappy and wanna be single then you say I'd get used to it. (I'd think damn that's rejection right there).

c.) You say: "I think we had a good run." (I'd think wow I guess this is the end, she moved far away from me, shuts down my flirting, is in a relationship with someone else and she thinks I'd be happier with whoever I am with right now).

After hitting on you for 9 years, I think my heart would break a little.


Yea I can see all of that but keep in mind I was trying to be respectful of the other ppl my guy and his girl so that adds another layer of bullshit and my profile pic is w a guy lol so I can only assume he had an idea I had someone
Yeah I know you were being respectful and that's really awesome of you πŸ™‚

But have you forgotten that this guy is obsessed with you?

And that you also really like this guy?

But then again.. 9 years.

Does he seem the type to give up?

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Yea but I still can't do that it's shady and makes me think less of him honestly

And of course I kind of got nervous what should I have said?
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So the virgo wrote me today flirting w me saying if I sold him a house he would be flirting his ass off (I'm a realtor)... and asked me what's been up w me I said I have a bf now( kinda we are on a break still don't want to disrespect him) and he said how he had gotten into a relationship and that he's not used to it and misses being single and I said that he will get used to it. Then he said that he wishes we could have had "fun" before all this happened ( I'm guessing our relationships and me moving) (I moved from the town I lived in for seven years where he lives) and I said "I think we had a good run" because I didn't want to disrespect his girl or my guy by flirting w him then he once again changes his profile pic to him and his girl thirty min later when it was just a pic of him w friends... ugh what the hell
well i really would do the same too

this is so frustrating

Yea I don't get it


a.) I started out flirting with you then you tell me that you have a boyfriend now. (my mind is like okay bad move I shouldn't have flirted).

b.) So then I share that I also got into a relationship recently then I hint that I'm unhappy and wanna be single then you say I'd get used to it. (I'd think damn that's rejection right there).

c.) You say: "I think we had a good run." (I'd think wow I guess this is the end, she moved far away from me, shuts down my flirting, is in a relationship with someone else and she thinks I'd be happier with whoever I am with right now).

After hitting on you for 9 years, I think my heart would break a little.


Yea I can see all of that but keep in mind I was trying to be respectful of the other ppl my guy and his girl so that adds another layer of bullshit and my profile pic is w a guy lol so I can only assume he had an idea I had someone
Yeah I know you were being respectful and that's really awesome of you πŸ™‚

But have you forgotten that this guy is obsessed with you?

And that you also really like this guy?

But then again.. 9 years.

Does he seem the type to give up?



Yea but I still can't do that it's shady and makes me think less of him honestly

And of course I kind of got nervous what should I have said?


Okay fine so you can't flirt with him. That makes you feel uncomfortable and you get nervous. That's alright but you could have at least asked why he's unhappy with his current relationship. You seem so distant to me with the way you described how you interacted with him.

You should not have said: "I think we had a good run." (damn I think my heart just broke for him).

There's nothing wrong with admitting like you miss him at least as a friend you know.

At least try to salvage what remains of your relationship with him- get that connection going.
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Yea I just have a wall up
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Stensco21, they are not hard to understand at all.

What did you find perplexing about them?
I agree.They are not hard at all to understand. They just play mind games at times trying to figure you out..but nothing we Scorpios can't understand! πŸ˜›
I'm not sure what mind games you're referring to? Can you please elaborate?

I don't think I play mind games at all. I believe I'm pretty straight forward when I'm pursuing a romantic interest.



All the virgos I came across.. literally all of them..try playing games!They are pretty straightforward in expressing their interest n feelings for someone.But that stops there.N then they keep playing this back n forth (i dunno if it's the fear of rejection or just wanting a reaction)They then start beating around the bush for almost everything.They try to analyze n dig things when there's really nothing.I dunno how to put this simply... I just have had too many situations owing to the fact that I'm surrounded by Virgos.There was this one situation where a Virgo friend of mine manipulated our whole damn friendship which includes one other guy for over months.I always had my doubts but he made it all so believable.This guy was the best friend of that other guy(they have been friends for over 12years) n still managed to make the other guy look bad.He legit twisted each n every moment we 3 of us shared showing the other guy in the bad light while every time it was this guy at fault.It is appalling how he could twist things so much for so long.N there's this other gf of mine who kinda mangles things instead of being upfront about them(She is my bff since 8years ).. I've seen this pattern in all my other virgo friends as well.They wanna know something? No straight questions asked!They feel this need to play.If I have any questions for them.. no straight answers given! They just tiptoe around the topic.Sometimes all their analysis is not even needed.Dont get me wrong though.. it is my favorite sign. I absolutely adore Virgos.


Do you have any unanswered questions that you need an answer to? Just asking, lol.... πŸ˜‰

btw.. there is a certain batch of virgos that excell in what your talking about. we can bring the drama and we are the best at it.
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Haha.. why? You'd answer them for me?

Lol! Oh I know all the drama.That was one time I fell for it...for a while at that. I figured it out eventually...he didn't see that coming πŸ˜›

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@Teena

I have no idea how you can still like us Virgos when we sound so horrible.

From what I have observed, being a Virgo myself and having female Virgo friends.. we are signs who are inclined to manipulation. The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation. But not always for malicious purposes.

I had a Libra friend who did the same thing that Virgo friend of yours did- manipulated the relationships of other people.

But the intention behind the use of manipulation matters more to me than the act itself. I don't always see it as a bad thing. It is just a tool. Virgos might use it simply because of their curiosity about someone. Surely I use it coz I'm endlessly curious about people. I want to understand them, what they like, why they do what they do, how they react to certain things and situations, etc.
What you said about the manipulation thing with the 3 signs is very true. At least with libras. I attract sh#t ton and they've always wanted to take things further with me but one thing I've noticed is that they like to manipulate on an intellectual basis as opposed to Scorpios who do a more emotional manipulation. It's one of the main reasons why Libras put me off plus they can be too soft for my taste.


I got manipulated by a Libra so bad that I never again dated one ever.

You'd get mind fvckd so hard that you'd question if everything was fake or not.

Okay I had this female Virgo friend who dated this Libra guy who was one of my buddies so we were all friends, right? Anyway this Libra shows me texts from the Virgo that would make her seem crazy like talking to her cat and herself all alone at the place where they live in together.

Then when I met up with the Virgo and I told her point blank that I think she's crazy lol.. she's shocked and was like: "wtf?!" so I told her what he told me (coz this girl's been my friend for years)... And she told me that he's always been like that- she also had to keep photographic evidence that she was sane and honest. She showed me the original texts which I realized the Libra was actually just deleting some of the texts from the Virgo so she would look really crazy to us. And I asked her why aren't you breaking up with him when he's a sociopath? And she says because he's threatening to drink like shampoo and kill himself or whatever.

And you wouldn't notice coz you think they're so nice and charming and airheaded.

The really evil type of Libra would manipulate relationships and make people hate each other but somehow make them the only likable person.

The Libra I dated manipulated my relationship with one of my female Scorpio friends by telling me all kinds of lies. She would at all cost stop me from meeting or talking to the Scorpio and she even deleted the number from my phone. And when we do meet up like in a social gathering, she would make sure that she's always around so she can hear everything we talk about. And she would twist events, words and expressions that my friend would make to make her appear crazy to me. For awhile I was totally manipulated until I decided to actually directly ask the Scorpio: "Wtf is this shyte this Libra's telling me about you?"

And oh my gosh the Scorpio was like: "Do you even know the things she told me about YOU?"

Mind.Fvckn.Blown.

Libra told me she hated this Scorpio and would never have contact with her when all these time she was hanging out, chatting about me, planting lies on my friend's head so she would stay far away from me. And she's planting lies on my head so I would stay away from the Scorpio.

Fencesitting, gaslighting fvckr.

I broke up with her but my friendship with that Scorpio went down the drain.

*smfh
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Wow!! That so sounds like the Virgo guy I mentioned. N yes I've seen Libras manipulating n lying big time.I understand the evil level you are talking about n seen that too.But somehow I understood the game even before they tried... Everytime! For me it seems like "they can't act to save their lives" Lol!They don't feel any guilt or remorse once caught either. They act like nothing ever happened or make " it is what it is" or "you won't understand me anyway"(guilt tripping us) kinda faces which I think is really funny.
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Got a problem with my ex virgo man too,i hardly know him and we've been on and off for 4 yrs when we were together i asked him many times if he wants me or not but he is so inconsistent that i dont want it no more so i told him lets just pretend we dont know each other,to make the story short he married someone and has 2 kids and now hes separated coz his wife cheated,he wants me back and ask me for a date but i didnt answer,the truth is he is 6yrs too late im already done with him i believe that if it didnt work in the past it wont work even now and when im done with you im so sorry but i am,i just dont know how to say it to him gently *sigh*
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I have no idea how you can still like us Virgos when we sound so horrible.

From what I have observed, being a Virgo myself and having female Virgo friends.. we are signs who are inclined to manipulation. The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation. But not always for malicious purposes.

I had a Libra friend who did the same thing that Virgo friend of yours did- manipulated the relationships of other people.

But the intention behind the use of manipulation matters more to me than the act itself. I don't always see it as a bad thing. It is just a tool. Virgos might use it simply because of their curiosity about someone. Surely I use it coz I'm endlessly curious about people. I want to understand them, what they like, why they do what they do, how they react to certain things and situations, etc.
What you said about the manipulation thing with the 3 signs is very true. At least with libras. I attract sh#t ton and they've always wanted to take things further with me but one thing I've noticed is that they like to manipulate on an intellectual basis as opposed to Scorpios who do a more emotional manipulation. It's one of the main reasons why Libras put me off plus they can be too soft for my taste.


I got manipulated by a Libra so bad that I never again dated one ever.

You'd get mind fvckd so hard that you'd question if everything was fake or not.

Okay I had this female Virgo friend who dated this Libra guy who was one of my buddies so we were all friends, right? Anyway this Libra shows me texts from the Virgo that would make her seem crazy like talking to her cat and herself all alone at the place where they live in together.

Then when I met up with the Virgo and I told her point blank that I think she's crazy lol.. she's shocked and was like: "wtf?!" so I told her what he told me (coz this girl's been my friend for years)... And she told me that he's always been like that- she also had to keep photographic evidence that she was sane and honest. She showed me the original texts which I realized the Libra was actually just deleting some of the texts from the Virgo so she would look really crazy to us. And I asked her why aren't you breaking up with him when he's a sociopath? And she says because he's threatening to drink like shampoo and kill himself or whatever.

And you wouldn't notice coz you think they're so nice and charming and airheaded.

The really evil type of Libra would manipulate relationships and make people hate each other but somehow make them the only likable person.

The Libra I dated manipulated my relationship with one of my female Scorpio friends by telling me all kinds of lies. She would at all cost stop me from meeting or talking to the Scorpio and she even deleted the number from my phone. And when we do meet up like in a social gathering, she would make sure that she's always around so she can hear everything we talk about. And she would twist events, words and expressions that my friend would make to make her appear crazy to me. For awhile I was totally manipulated until I decided to actually directly ask the Scorpio: "Wtf is this shyte this Libra's telling me about you?"

And oh my gosh the Scorpio was like: "Do you even know the things she told me about YOU?"

Mind.Fvckn.Blown.

Libra told me she hated this Scorpio and would never have contact with her when all these time she was hanging out, chatting about me, planting lies on my friend's head so she would stay far away from me. And she's planting lies on my head so I would stay away from the Scorpio.

Fencesitting, gaslighting fvckr.

I broke up with her but my friendship with that Scorpio went down the drain.

*smfh
Wow!! That so sounds like the Virgo guy I mentioned. N yes I've seen Libras manipulating n lying big time.I understand the evil level you are talking about n seen that too.But somehow I understood the game even before they tried... Everytime! For me it seems like "they can't act to save their lives" Lol!They don't feel any guilt or remorse once caught either. They act like nothing ever happened or make " it is what it is" or "you won't understand me anyway"(guilt tripping us) kinda faces which I think is really funny.
I fell for the Libran charm @Teena

When I catch her doing small, bad things- she smiles at me, laughs and makes up some lie so then I get distracted.

I even deny that we ever dated to people because she was crazy and broke my heart.

When I wanted to break up with her? You know what she did? She accused me of cheating on her, just pulled that shyte out of nowhere, then she took these pair of blunt scissors from the kitchen and started to injure herself and told me that she would tell people that I did that to her and she took my car keys and threw them out the balcony. And when I just stood there totally mindfvckd she told me that she only did those things because she "loved" me. Cray cray cray cray cray.

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??This is so funny!!

Dude she has issues!! She's beyond crazy!! How did you deal with her for so long??!!

I told ya!! I told you you guys can be manipulated, didn't I?? Mushy hearts ?? How did you get rid of her with all that emotional blackmailing she was doing?? Did she never stalk you after?Does she still haunt you in your dreams? πŸ˜›
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Stensco21, they are not hard to understand at all.

What did you find perplexing about them?
I agree.They are not hard at all to understand. They just play mind games at times trying to figure you out..but nothing we Scorpios can't understand! πŸ˜›
I'm not sure what mind games you're referring to? Can you please elaborate?

I don't think I play mind games at all. I believe I'm pretty straight forward when I'm pursuing a romantic interest.



All the virgos I came across.. literally all of them..try playing games!They are pretty straightforward in expressing their interest n feelings for someone.But that stops there.N then they keep playing this back n forth (i dunno if it's the fear of rejection or just wanting a reaction)They then start beating around the bush for almost everything.They try to analyze n dig things when there's really nothing.I dunno how to put this simply... I just have had too many situations owing to the fact that I'm surrounded by Virgos.There was this one situation where a Virgo friend of mine manipulated our whole damn friendship which includes one other guy for over months.I always had my doubts but he made it all so believable.This guy was the best friend of that other guy(they have been friends for over 12years) n still managed to make the other guy look bad.He legit twisted each n every moment we 3 of us shared showing the other guy in the bad light while every time it was this guy at fault.It is appalling how he could twist things so much for so long.N there's this other gf of mine who kinda mangles things instead of being upfront about them(She is my bff since 8years ).. I've seen this pattern in all my other virgo friends as well.They wanna know something? No straight questions asked!They feel this need to play.If I have any questions for them.. no straight answers given! They just tiptoe around the topic.Sometimes all their analysis is not even needed.Dont get me wrong though.. it is my favorite sign. I absolutely adore Virgos.


Hey Teena,

I agree with you and @VirgoGent

I've definitely met the type that you mentioned and their behavior is so obvious, I would friend zone before anything serious ever happened.

BUT, I've also gone out with the type that VirgoGent describes... I don't remember his exact birthdate but I do remember that it was late August. He was SUPER earthy, mellow and a straight shooter. Never played any mind games, which was VERY attractive and admirable to me.



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I'm yet to come across Virgos who are not into games. I don't mind the games though. I'm immune to that πŸ˜› I'd let them think they're playing me for however long I like it. It's fun to watch it all.Then I try piercing their bubble one at a time when they least expect it..which is even more fun . Lol I sound so evil right now .. πŸ˜„
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@Teena

I have no idea how you can still like us Virgos when we sound so horrible.

From what I have observed, being a Virgo myself and having female Virgo friends.. we are signs who are inclined to manipulation. The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation. But not always for malicious purposes.

I had a Libra friend who did the same thing that Virgo friend of yours did- manipulated the relationships of other people.

But the intention behind the use of manipulation matters more to me than the act itself. I don't always see it as a bad thing. It is just a tool. Virgos might use it simply because of their curiosity about someone. Surely I use it coz I'm endlessly curious about people. I want to understand them, what they like, why they do what they do, how they react to certain things and situations, etc.
What you said about the manipulation thing with the 3 signs is very true. At least with libras. I attract sh#t ton and they've always wanted to take things further with me but one thing I've noticed is that they like to manipulate on an intellectual basis as opposed to Scorpios who do a more emotional manipulation. It's one of the main reasons why Libras put me off plus they can be too soft for my taste.


I got manipulated by a Libra so bad that I never again dated one ever.

You'd get mind fvckd so hard that you'd question if everything was fake or not.

Okay I had this female Virgo friend who dated this Libra guy who was one of my buddies so we were all friends, right? Anyway this Libra shows me texts from the Virgo that would make her seem crazy like talking to her cat and herself all alone at the place where they live in together.

Then when I met up with the Virgo and I told her point blank that I think she's crazy lol.. she's shocked and was like: "wtf?!" so I told her what he told me (coz this girl's been my friend for years)... And she told me that he's always been like that- she also had to keep photographic evidence that she was sane and honest. She showed me the original texts which I realized the Libra was actually just deleting some of the texts from the Virgo so she would look really crazy to us. And I asked her why aren't you breaking up with him when he's a sociopath? And she says because he's threatening to drink like shampoo and kill himself or whatever.

And you wouldn't notice coz you think they're so nice and charming and airheaded.

The really evil type of Libra would manipulate relationships and make people hate each other but somehow make them the only likable person.

The Libra I dated manipulated my relationship with one of my female Scorpio friends by telling me all kinds of lies. She would at all cost stop me from meeting or talking to the Scorpio and she even deleted the number from my phone. And when we do meet up like in a social gathering, she would make sure that she's always around so she can hear everything we talk about. And she would twist events, words and expressions that my friend would make to make her appear crazy to me. For awhile I was totally manipulated until I decided to actually directly ask the Scorpio: "Wtf is this shyte this Libra's telling me about you?"

And oh my gosh the Scorpio was like: "Do you even know the things she told me about YOU?"

Mind.Fvckn.Blown.

Libra told me she hated this Scorpio and would never have contact with her when all these time she was hanging out, chatting about me, planting lies on my friend's head so she would stay far away from me. And she's planting lies on my head so I would stay away from the Scorpio.

Fencesitting, gaslighting fvckr.

I broke up with her but my friendship with that Scorpio went down the drain.

*smfh
Wow!! That so sounds like the Virgo guy I mentioned. N yes I've seen Libras manipulating n lying big time.I understand the evil level you are talking about n seen that too.But somehow I understood the game even before they tried... Everytime! For me it seems like "they can't act to save their lives" Lol!They don't feel any guilt or remorse once caught either. They act like nothing ever happened or make " it is what it is" or "you won't understand me anyway"(guilt tripping us) kinda faces which I think is really funny.
I fell for the Libran charm @Teena

When I catch her doing small, bad things- she smiles at me, laughs and makes up some lie so then I get distracted.

I even deny that we ever dated to people because she was crazy and broke my heart.

When I wanted to break up with her? You know what she did? She accused me of cheating on her, just pulled that shyte out of nowhere, then she took these pair of blunt scissors from the kitchen and started to injure herself and told me that she would tell people that I did that to her and she took my car keys and threw them out the balcony. And when I just stood there totally mindfvckd she told me that she only did those things because she "loved" me. Cray cray cray cray cray.

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??This is so funny!!

Dude she has issues!! She's beyond crazy!! How did you deal with her for so long??!!

I told ya!! I told you you guys can be manipulated, didn't I?? Mushy hearts ?? How did you get rid of her with all that emotional blackmailing she was doing?? Did she never stalk you after?Does she still haunt you in your dreams? πŸ˜›


Not funny!! 😒

To be fair, even though she's crazy- she's a lot of fun and most of our relationship was spent roadtripping lol. I didn't even notice she was manipulating me in any way until I uncovered her games. Oh I'm sure she stalks me on social media. I heard it from the grapevine.

I wasn't even sure if I could safely get out the door when I was trying to break up with her so I texted my Scorpio and Sag brothers to come and get me coz the cray Libra threw my car keys from the balcony. I tried to distract her by pretending to give our relationship "another try." But she saw through my crap and asked me why she'd believe me after all the things I'd seen her do that night. In my desperation, I tried to appeal to her vanity by attempting to seduce her. *chuckles

I thank my brothers for saving me.

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Ah the road trips. I love roadtripping !!

Lol! They sure are fun yeah.She is still stalking you? I don't blame her. I would too πŸ˜›

You seduced her to get away from her??What are you? You're hilarious??
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Stensco21, they are not hard to understand at all.

What did you find perplexing about them?
I agree.They are not hard at all to understand. They just play mind games at times trying to figure you out..but nothing we Scorpios can't understand! πŸ˜›
I'm not sure what mind games you're referring to? Can you please elaborate?

I don't think I play mind games at all. I believe I'm pretty straight forward when I'm pursuing a romantic interest.



All the virgos I came across.. literally all of them..try playing games!They are pretty straightforward in expressing their interest n feelings for someone.But that stops there.N then they keep playing this back n forth (i dunno if it's the fear of rejection or just wanting a reaction)They then start beating around the bush for almost everything.They try to analyze n dig things when there's really nothing.I dunno how to put this simply... I just have had too many situations owing to the fact that I'm surrounded by Virgos.There was this one situation where a Virgo friend of mine manipulated our whole damn friendship which includes one other guy for over months.I always had my doubts but he made it all so believable.This guy was the best friend of that other guy(they have been friends for over 12years) n still managed to make the other guy look bad.He legit twisted each n every moment we 3 of us shared showing the other guy in the bad light while every time it was this guy at fault.It is appalling how he could twist things so much for so long.N there's this other gf of mine who kinda mangles things instead of being upfront about them(She is my bff since 8years ).. I've seen this pattern in all my other virgo friends as well.They wanna know something? No straight questions asked!They feel this need to play.If I have any questions for them.. no straight answers given! They just tiptoe around the topic.Sometimes all their analysis is not even needed.Dont get me wrong though.. it is my favorite sign. I absolutely adore Virgos.


Hey Teena,

I agree with you and @VirgoGent

I've definitely met the type that you mentioned and their behavior is so obvious, I would friend zone before anything serious ever happened.

BUT, I've also gone out with the type that VirgoGent describes... I don't remember his exact birthdate but I do remember that it was late August. He was SUPER earthy, mellow and a straight shooter. Never played any mind games, which was VERY attractive and admirable to me.




I'm yet to come across Virgos who are not into games. I don't mind the games though. I'm immune to that πŸ˜› I'd let them think they're playing me for however long I like it. It's fun to watch it all.Then I try piercing their bubble one at a time when they least expect it..which is even more fun . Lol I sound so evil right now .. πŸ˜„
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Ikr??!!! Pure evil πŸ˜›
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Stensco21, they are not hard to understand at all.

What did you find perplexing about them?
I agree.They are not hard at all to understand. They just play mind games at times trying to figure you out..but nothing we Scorpios can't understand! πŸ˜›
I'm not sure what mind games you're referring to? Can you please elaborate?

I don't think I play mind games at all. I believe I'm pretty straight forward when I'm pursuing a romantic interest.



All the virgos I came across.. literally all of them..try playing games!They are pretty straightforward in expressing their interest n feelings for someone.But that stops there.N then they keep playing this back n forth (i dunno if it's the fear of rejection or just wanting a reaction)They then start beating around the bush for almost everything.They try to analyze n dig things when there's really nothing.I dunno how to put this simply... I just have had too many situations owing to the fact that I'm surrounded by Virgos.There was this one situation where a Virgo friend of mine manipulated our whole damn friendship which includes one other guy for over months.I always had my doubts but he made it all so believable.This guy was the best friend of that other guy(they have been friends for over 12years) n still managed to make the other guy look bad.He legit twisted each n every moment we 3 of us shared showing the other guy in the bad light while every time it was this guy at fault.It is appalling how he could twist things so much for so long.N there's this other gf of mine who kinda mangles things instead of being upfront about them(She is my bff since 8years ).. I've seen this pattern in all my other virgo friends as well.They wanna know something? No straight questions asked!They feel this need to play.If I have any questions for them.. no straight answers given! They just tiptoe around the topic.Sometimes all their analysis is not even needed.Dont get me wrong though.. it is my favorite sign. I absolutely adore Virgos.


Hey Teena,

I agree with you and @VirgoGent

I've definitely met the type that you mentioned and their behavior is so obvious, I would friend zone before anything serious ever happened.

BUT, I've also gone out with the type that VirgoGent describes... I don't remember his exact birthdate but I do remember that it was late August. He was SUPER earthy, mellow and a straight shooter. Never played any mind games, which was VERY attractive and admirable to me.




I'm yet to come across Virgos who are not into games. I don't mind the games though. I'm immune to that πŸ˜› I'd let them think they're playing me for however long I like it. It's fun to watch it all.Then I try piercing their bubble one at a time when they least expect it..which is even more fun . Lol I sound so evil right now .. πŸ˜„
Lol... I guess I'm just as evil as you then because I *think* I've done the same.

How is it that you pierce their bubble?

I would also enjoy the show but in my mind... I see it as only that, a show. It was that very show that made me friend zone them within seconds - but that never changed anything as far as me just really enjoying them and getting along so well. It's just that it would drive them nuts as to why I would never budge despite all their efforts...lol.

I was the same with some Pisces.

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Haha.These guys think they play it all too well(they actually do tbvh..better than any other sign I've seen) They don't expect anyone to see it. I let them play n play along.N once they're comfortable in the game, I'll just *show*(i never taunt or be literally vocal about it..i don't like to put them in a fix or want them to give any explanation for what so ever) how I'm already aware.That doesn't necessarily make me friendzone someone.I just friendzone everyone in general πŸ˜›

So you think Pisces are manipulative too??
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I have no idea how you can still like us Virgos when we sound so horrible.

From what I have observed, being a Virgo myself and having female Virgo friends.. we are signs who are inclined to manipulation. The three neighbors- Virgo, Libra and Scorpio. For me, these are the signs that have the potential for high-level manipulation. But not always for malicious purposes.

I had a Libra friend who did the same thing that Virgo friend of yours did- manipulated the relationships of other people.

But the intention behind the use of manipulation matters more to me than the act itself. I don't always see it as a bad thing. It is just a tool. Virgos might use it simply because of their curiosity about someone. Surely I use it coz I'm endlessly curious about people. I want to understand them, what they like, why they do what they do, how they react to certain things and situations, etc.
What you said about the manipulation thing with the 3 signs is very true. At least with libras. I attract sh#t ton and they've always wanted to take things further with me but one thing I've noticed is that they like to manipulate on an intellectual basis as opposed to Scorpios who do a more emotional manipulation. It's one of the main reasons why Libras put me off plus they can be too soft for my taste.


I got manipulated by a Libra so bad that I never again dated one ever.

You'd get mind fvckd so hard that you'd question if everything was fake or not.

Okay I had this female Virgo friend who dated this Libra guy who was one of my buddies so we were all friends, right? Anyway this Libra shows me texts from the Virgo that would make her seem crazy like talking to her cat and herself all alone at the place where they live in together.

Then when I met up with the Virgo and I told her point blank that I think she's crazy lol.. she's shocked and was like: "wtf?!" so I told her what he told me (coz this girl's been my friend for years)... And she told me that he's always been like that- she also had to keep photographic evidence that she was sane and honest. She showed me the original texts which I realized the Libra was actually just deleting some of the texts from the Virgo so she would look really crazy to us. And I asked her why aren't you breaking up with him when he's a sociopath? And she says because he's threatening to drink like shampoo and kill himself or whatever.

And you wouldn't notice coz you think they're so nice and charming and airheaded.

The really evil type of Libra would manipulate relationships and make people hate each other but somehow make them the only likable person.

The Libra I dated manipulated my relationship with one of my female Scorpio friends by telling me all kinds of lies. She would at all cost stop me from meeting or talking to the Scorpio and she even deleted the number from my phone. And when we do meet up like in a social gathering, she would make sure that she's always around so she can hear everything we talk about. And she would twist events, words and expressions that my friend would make to make her appear crazy to me. For awhile I was totally manipulated until I decided to actually directly ask the Scorpio: "Wtf is this shyte this Libra's telling me about you?"

And oh my gosh the Scorpio was like: "Do you even know the things she told me about YOU?"

Mind.Fvckn.Blown.

Libra told me she hated this Scorpio and would never have contact with her when all these time she was hanging out, chatting about me, planting lies on my friend's head so she would stay far away from me. And she's planting lies on my head so I would stay away from the Scorpio.

Fencesitting, gaslighting fvckr.

I broke up with her but my friendship with that Scorpio went down the drain.

*smfh
Wow!! That so sounds like the Virgo guy I mentioned. N yes I've seen Libras manipulating n lying big time.I understand the evil level you are talking about n seen that too.But somehow I understood the game even before they tried... Everytime! For me it seems like "they can't act to save their lives" Lol!They don't feel any guilt or remorse once caught either. They act like nothing ever happened or make " it is what it is" or "you won't understand me anyway"(guilt tripping us) kinda faces which I think is really funny.
I fell for the Libran charm @Teena

When I catch her doing small, bad things- she smiles at me, laughs and makes up some lie so then I get distracted.

I even deny that we ever dated to people because she was crazy and broke my heart.

When I wanted to break up with her? You know what she did? She accused me of cheating on her, just pulled that shyte out of nowhere, then she took these pair of blunt scissors from the kitchen and started to injure herself and told me that she would tell people that I did that to her and she took my car keys and threw them out the balcony. And when I just stood there totally mindfvckd she told me that she only did those things because she "loved" me. Cray cray cray cray cray.

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??This is so funny!!

Dude she has issues!! She's beyond crazy!! How did you deal with her for so long??!!

I told ya!! I told you you guys can be manipulated, didn't I?? Mushy hearts ?? How did you get rid of her with all that emotional blackmailing she was doing?? Did she never stalk you after?Does she still haunt you in your dreams? πŸ˜›


Not funny!! 😒

To be fair, even though she's crazy- she's a lot of fun and most of our relationship was spent roadtripping lol. I didn't even notice she was manipulating me in any way until I uncovered her games. Oh I'm sure she stalks me on social media. I heard it from the grapevine.

I wasn't even sure if I could safely get out the door when I was trying to break up with her so I texted my Scorpio and Sag brothers to come and get me coz the cray Libra threw my car keys from the balcony. I tried to distract her by pretending to give our relationship "another try." But she saw through my crap and asked me why she'd believe me after all the things I'd seen her do that night. In my desperation, I tried to appeal to her vanity by attempting to seduce her. *chuckles

I thank my brothers for saving me.



Ah the road trips. I love roadtripping !!

Lol! They sure are fun yeah.She is still stalking you? I don't blame her. I would too πŸ˜›

You seduced her to get away from her??What are you? You're hilarious??


I'm 11 years older than you @Teena !!

I really loved her. I know that sounds crazy but I really really did. It's probably coz of all my Libra placements. I mean I have Libra mars come on. And not to be shallow or anything but she was one of the prettiest girls I've ever seen. She looks amazing when she smiles.

But then I remember she's cuckoo....

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N that makes it even more exciting @yupvirgoo (wth is yupvirgooβ€”? πŸ˜› ) πŸ˜„

I don't say it's shallow...but Virgos are huge on beauty!! I don't think it's necessarily your Libra placements. All my Virgins fall for n admire charm n beauty like any other Venusian honestly.Neither do you sound crazy. Love makes people do things *sigh*
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Stensco21, they are not hard to understand at all.

What did you find perplexing about them?
I agree.They are not hard at all to understand. They just play mind games at times trying to figure you out..but nothing we Scorpios can't understand! πŸ˜›
I'm not sure what mind games you're referring to? Can you please elaborate?

I don't think I play mind games at all. I believe I'm pretty straight forward when I'm pursuing a romantic interest.



All the virgos I came across.. literally all of them..try playing games!They are pretty straightforward in expressing their interest n feelings for someone.But that stops there.N then they keep playing this back n forth (i dunno if it's the fear of rejection or just wanting a reaction)They then start beating around the bush for almost everything.They try to analyze n dig things when there's really nothing.I dunno how to put this simply... I just have had too many situations owing to the fact that I'm surrounded by Virgos.There was this one situation where a Virgo friend of mine manipulated our whole damn friendship which includes one other guy for over months.I always had my doubts but he made it all so believable.This guy was the best friend of that other guy(they have been friends for over 12years) n still managed to make the other guy look bad.He legit twisted each n every moment we 3 of us shared showing the other guy in the bad light while every time it was this guy at fault.It is appalling how he could twist things so much for so long.N there's this other gf of mine who kinda mangles things instead of being upfront about them(She is my bff since 8years ).. I've seen this pattern in all my other virgo friends as well.They wanna know something? No straight questions asked!They feel this need to play.If I have any questions for them.. no straight answers given! They just tiptoe around the topic.Sometimes all their analysis is not even needed.Dont get me wrong though.. it is my favorite sign. I absolutely adore Virgos.


Hey Teena,

I agree with you and @VirgoGent

I've definitely met the type that you mentioned and their behavior is so obvious, I would friend zone before anything serious ever happened.

BUT, I've also gone out with the type that VirgoGent describes... I don't remember his exact birthdate but I do remember that it was late August. He was SUPER earthy, mellow and a straight shooter. Never played any mind games, which was VERY attractive and admirable to me.




I'm yet to come across Virgos who are not into games. I don't mind the games though. I'm immune to that πŸ˜› I'd let them think they're playing me for however long I like it. It's fun to watch it all.Then I try piercing their bubble one at a time when they least expect it..which is even more fun . Lol I sound so evil right now .. πŸ˜„
Lol... I guess I'm just as evil as you then because I *think* I've done the same.

How is it that you pierce their bubble?

I would also enjoy the show but in my mind... I see it as only that, a show. It was that very show that made me friend zone them within seconds - but that never changed anything as far as me just really enjoying them and getting along so well. It's just that it would drive them nuts as to why I would never budge despite all their efforts...lol.

I was the same with some Pisces.


Haha.These guys think they play it all too well(they actually do tbvh..better than any other sign I've seen) They don't expect anyone to see it. I let them play n play along.N once they're comfortable in the game, I'll just *show*(i never taunt or be literally vocal about it..i don't like to put them in a fix or want them to give any explanation for what so ever) how I'm already aware.That doesn't necessarily make me friendzone someone.I just friendzone everyone in general πŸ˜›

So you think Pisces are manipulative too??
How come you don't just avoid them?

They seem like horrible people.
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Whaaaatt?? Lol!! You're saying it like why don't I just leave you guys alone? Why do you want me to avoid themβ€” I love them dammit!! -_- 😐 I told you...

I enjoy everything about them. They are the best. I can completely ignore the things I'm talking about.They are loyal.Period. .n many more loveable things πŸ˜›
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Stensco21, they are not hard to understand at all.

What did you find perplexing about them?
I agree.They are not hard at all to understand. They just play mind games at times trying to figure you out..but nothing we Scorpios can't understand! πŸ˜›
I'm not sure what mind games you're referring to? Can you please elaborate?

I don't think I play mind games at all. I believe I'm pretty straight forward when I'm pursuing a romantic interest.



All the virgos I came across.. literally all of them..try playing games!They are pretty straightforward in expressing their interest n feelings for someone.But that stops there.N then they keep playing this back n forth (i dunno if it's the fear of rejection or just wanting a reaction)They then start beating around the bush for almost everything.They try to analyze n dig things when there's really nothing.I dunno how to put this simply... I just have had too many situations owing to the fact that I'm surrounded by Virgos.There was this one situation where a Virgo friend of mine manipulated our whole damn friendship which includes one other guy for over months.I always had my doubts but he made it all so believable.This guy was the best friend of that other guy(they have been friends for over 12years) n still managed to make the other guy look bad.He legit twisted each n every moment we 3 of us shared showing the other guy in the bad light while every time it was this guy at fault.It is appalling how he could twist things so much for so long.N there's this other gf of mine who kinda mangles things instead of being upfront about them(She is my bff since 8years ).. I've seen this pattern in all my other virgo friends as well.They wanna know something? No straight questions asked!They feel this need to play.If I have any questions for them.. no straight answers given! They just tiptoe around the topic.Sometimes all their analysis is not even needed.Dont get me wrong though.. it is my favorite sign. I absolutely adore Virgos.


Hey Teena,

I agree with you and @VirgoGent

I've definitely met the type that you mentioned and their behavior is so obvious, I would friend zone before anything serious ever happened.

BUT, I've also gone out with the type that VirgoGent describes... I don't remember his exact birthdate but I do remember that it was late August. He was SUPER earthy, mellow and a straight shooter. Never played any mind games, which was VERY attractive and admirable to me.




I'm yet to come across Virgos who are not into games. I don't mind the games though. I'm immune to that πŸ˜› I'd let them think they're playing me for however long I like it. It's fun to watch it all.Then I try piercing their bubble one at a time when they least expect it..which is even more fun . Lol I sound so evil right now .. πŸ˜„
Lol... I guess I'm just as evil as you then because I *think* I've done the same.

How is it that you pierce their bubble?

I would also enjoy the show but in my mind... I see it as only that, a show. It was that very show that made me friend zone them within seconds - but that never changed anything as far as me just really enjoying them and getting along so well. It's just that it would drive them nuts as to why I would never budge despite all their efforts...lol.

I was the same with some Pisces.


Haha.These guys think they play it all too well(they actually do tbvh..better than any other sign I've seen) They don't expect anyone to see it. I let them play n play along.N once they're comfortable in the game, I'll just *show*(i never taunt or be literally vocal about it..i don't like to put them in a fix or want them to give any explanation for what so ever) how I'm already aware.That doesn't necessarily make me friendzone someone.I just friendzone everyone in general πŸ˜›

So you think Pisces are manipulative too??
Lol@ friend zoning everyone!

No, what I meant to say was that some Pisces also play lots of games. Play on words, giving illusions, giving you the freedom to believe what you wish without really having to say the truth.

I see those games a mile away and block my will to take them seriously. I play along but feel nothing, because I see it as a game and just have fun with it.

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Yeah that's what I thought. I didn't come across many Pisces though.Just too many Virgos n a lot of Libras,Sags n Geminis

Lol!! Sounds like a Scorpio thing then 🍹
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Stensco21, they are not hard to understand at all.

What did you find perplexing about them?
I agree.They are not hard at all to understand. They just play mind games at times trying to figure you out..but nothing we Scorpios can't understand! πŸ˜›
I'm not sure what mind games you're referring to? Can you please elaborate?

I don't think I play mind games at all. I believe I'm pretty straight forward when I'm pursuing a romantic interest.



All the virgos I came across.. literally all of them..try playing games!They are pretty straightforward in expressing their interest n feelings for someone.But that stops there.N then they keep playing this back n forth (i dunno if it's the fear of rejection or just wanting a reaction)They then start beating around the bush for almost everything.They try to analyze n dig things when there's really nothing.I dunno how to put this simply... I just have had too many situations owing to the fact that I'm surrounded by Virgos.There was this one situation where a Virgo friend of mine manipulated our whole damn friendship which includes one other guy for over months.I always had my doubts but he made it all so believable.This guy was the best friend of that other guy(they have been friends for over 12years) n still managed to make the other guy look bad.He legit twisted each n every moment we 3 of us shared showing the other guy in the bad light while every time it was this guy at fault.It is appalling how he could twist things so much for so long.N there's this other gf of mine who kinda mangles things instead of being upfront about them(She is my bff since 8years ).. I've seen this pattern in all my other virgo friends as well.They wanna know something? No straight questions asked!They feel this need to play.If I have any questions for them.. no straight answers given! They just tiptoe around the topic.Sometimes all their analysis is not even needed.Dont get me wrong though.. it is my favorite sign. I absolutely adore Virgos.


Hey Teena,

I agree with you and @VirgoGent

I've definitely met the type that you mentioned and their behavior is so obvious, I would friend zone before anything serious ever happened.

BUT, I've also gone out with the type that VirgoGent describes... I don't remember his exact birthdate but I do remember that it was late August. He was SUPER earthy, mellow and a straight shooter. Never played any mind games, which was VERY attractive and admirable to me.




I'm yet to come across Virgos who are not into games. I don't mind the games though. I'm immune to that πŸ˜› I'd let them think they're playing me for however long I like it. It's fun to watch it all.Then I try piercing their bubble one at a time when they least expect it..which is even more fun . Lol I sound so evil right now .. πŸ˜„
Lol... I guess I'm just as evil as you then because I *think* I've done the same.

How is it that you pierce their bubble?

I would also enjoy the show but in my mind... I see it as only that, a show. It was that very show that made me friend zone them within seconds - but that never changed anything as far as me just really enjoying them and getting along so well. It's just that it would drive them nuts as to why I would never budge despite all their efforts...lol.

I was the same with some Pisces.


Haha.These guys think they play it all too well(they actually do tbvh..better than any other sign I've seen) They don't expect anyone to see it. I let them play n play along.N once they're comfortable in the game, I'll just *show*(i never taunt or be literally vocal about it..i don't like to put them in a fix or want them to give any explanation for what so ever) how I'm already aware.That doesn't necessarily make me friendzone someone.I just friendzone everyone in general πŸ˜›

So you think Pisces are manipulative too??
How come you don't just avoid them?

They seem like horrible people.
Whaaaatt?? Lol!! You're saying it like why don't I just leave you guys alone? Why do you want me to avoid themβ€” I love them dammit!! -_- 😐 I told you...

I enjoy everything about them. They are the best. I can completely ignore the things I'm talking about.They are loyal.Period. .n many more loveable things πŸ˜›
So true. It never stopped us from being really good friends. The good was still very much alive.

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See?? You listening @yupvirgoo?? These things don't come in way for us πŸ˜›
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Well im a virgo and i have sympathy for the pisces,,,,i understand her point with the logic in it also...sounds just like what i would say.


Then you also guilt trip?
Just like the pisces you talked about. Seems exactly like what I would do/
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Intentionally?

I don't believe she's conscious she's doing it, though.